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	<title>Comments on: How Rockstar can come on top from their AO debacle</title>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/20/how-rockstar-can-come-on-top-from-their-ao-debacle/#comment-101638</link>
		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MPPA rating vs. the game rating is false argument.  DVD players are made many manufactures using a common licensed technology/standard and the hardware is  not subsidized by the sale of DVDs. Video game hardware formats are controlled by single company and the industry business is based on hardware prices being artificially low due to sales of game software.  Because success in the industry related to ongoing sales, the hardware companies have an interest in making sure their hardware doesn't become tarnished by any developer's software.  The hardware guys have a much bigger market to worry about and they are not going to allow one developer walk in and cause the hardware companies a ton of PR headaches.  None of the hardware guys want their unit to be branded as the 'murder/porn game machine', and then have zealots pressure wal-mart to stop selling their hardware.  So for all the 'this is censorship!' folks, go lift up the cushions on your couch and pick up the 2 or 3 billion dollars necessary to launch a system nowadays and start you own game hardware company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MPPA rating vs. the game rating is false argument.  DVD players are made many manufactures using a common licensed technology/standard and the hardware is  not subsidized by the sale of DVDs. Video game hardware formats are controlled by single company and the industry business is based on hardware prices being artificially low due to sales of game software.  Because success in the industry related to ongoing sales, the hardware companies have an interest in making sure their hardware doesn&#8217;t become tarnished by any developer&#8217;s software.  The hardware guys have a much bigger market to worry about and they are not going to allow one developer walk in and cause the hardware companies a ton of PR headaches.  None of the hardware guys want their unit to be branded as the &#8216;murder/porn game machine&#8217;, and then have zealots pressure wal-mart to stop selling their hardware.  So for all the &#8216;this is censorship!&#8217; folks, go lift up the cushions on your couch and pick up the 2 or 3 billion dollars necessary to launch a system nowadays and start you own game hardware company.</p>
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		<title>By: thaKingRocka</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/20/how-rockstar-can-come-on-top-from-their-ao-debacle/#comment-101137</link>
		<dc:creator>thaKingRocka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Pichi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;well, the porn games get AO ratings much akin to porn films with X ratings.  why would a game be so different from porn anyway?  why are games any different from film?  doesnâ€™t the rating system follow much the same classification criteria as the film industry?  sony didnâ€™t stop dvd players from playing smut or faces of death, and i donâ€™t see that they should stop AO games from being played on their game console.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;regardless, the rating system is in place so that people know whatâ€™s in a game and can purchase or avoid it using that information.  there is no reason for sony or nintendo to refuse to allow a certain rating whether it be all ages, teen, or AO.  thank god for the pc, but by the time R* gets a pc port out, they will probably be 50-70 million in the hole.  this game is not that big a draw on the pc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pichi</p>
<p>well, the porn games get AO ratings much akin to porn films with X ratings.  why would a game be so different from porn anyway?  why are games any different from film?  doesnâ€™t the rating system follow much the same classification criteria as the film industry?  sony didnâ€™t stop dvd players from playing smut or faces of death, and i donâ€™t see that they should stop AO games from being played on their game console.</p>
<p>regardless, the rating system is in place so that people know whatâ€™s in a game and can purchase or avoid it using that information.  there is no reason for sony or nintendo to refuse to allow a certain rating whether it be all ages, teen, or AO.  thank god for the pc, but by the time R* gets a pc port out, they will probably be 50-70 million in the hole.  this game is not that big a draw on the pc.</p>
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		<title>By: the_importer</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/20/how-rockstar-can-come-on-top-from-their-ao-debacle/#comment-101111</link>
		<dc:creator>the_importer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's another option, scrap the project and make another Table Tennis game, only this time for Wii.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another option, scrap the project and make another Table Tennis game, only this time for Wii.</p>
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		<title>By: Xero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor R*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor R*</p>
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		<title>By: Pichi</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/20/how-rockstar-can-come-on-top-from-their-ao-debacle/#comment-100850</link>
		<dc:creator>Pichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ thaKingRocka

Porn is different from games. We are talking about AO games, nothing to do with porn. At least point out a CERO Z Japanese game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ thaKingRocka</p>
<p>Porn is different from games. We are talking about AO games, nothing to do with porn. At least point out a CERO Z Japanese game.</p>
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		<title>By: ryne11</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryne11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they can get it down to an M rating with little editing.

Why not allow AO games on thier systems? Seriously..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they can get it down to an M rating with little editing.</p>
<p>Why not allow AO games on thier systems? Seriously..</p>
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		<title>By: thaKingRocka</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/20/how-rockstar-can-come-on-top-from-their-ao-debacle/#comment-100827</link>
		<dc:creator>thaKingRocka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indigo prophecy's/fahrenheit's objectionable content was removable sexual content.  manhunt 2 can't remove the objectionable content here because it's the premise of the game.  the whole thing is being branded AO.  there doesn't seem to be any particular 30 second sequence to remove with manhunt.  all that time and money spent on developing for the wii and ps2 is lost if those idiots refuse to grant licensing rights.  it's entirely ridiculous.  the AO rating is there.  why reject a title with it?

i don't think a company should refuse a title based on the rating.  there is plenty of psp porn in japan, so i don't know where this no AO crap comes from.  was there no psp porn in america?  wouldn't porn be AO?  nintendo are idiots anyway, but i didn't expect this from sony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indigo prophecy&#8217;s/fahrenheit&#8217;s objectionable content was removable sexual content.  manhunt 2 can&#8217;t remove the objectionable content here because it&#8217;s the premise of the game.  the whole thing is being branded AO.  there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any particular 30 second sequence to remove with manhunt.  all that time and money spent on developing for the wii and ps2 is lost if those idiots refuse to grant licensing rights.  it&#8217;s entirely ridiculous.  the AO rating is there.  why reject a title with it?</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t think a company should refuse a title based on the rating.  there is plenty of psp porn in japan, so i don&#8217;t know where this no AO crap comes from.  was there no psp porn in america?  wouldn&#8217;t porn be AO?  nintendo are idiots anyway, but i didn&#8217;t expect this from sony.</p>
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		<title>By: Pichi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they decide to release the AO version for PC. Have a M rated version and AO version, and with the hype, they surely can get their money's worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they decide to release the AO version for PC. Have a M rated version and AO version, and with the hype, they surely can get their money&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zuccarelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Zuccarelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's sad that a rating of AO is equal to censorship. Whether or not the game is any good I think it's wrong that a company refuse to allow an AO game on their consoles. Let the consumers decide.

I'm more upset at Sony and Nintendo that the ESRB or anyone else involved in this. Have the courage to stand behind their products. They both knew damn well what Manhunt was and were more than happy to oblige right up until the rating... now they act like it's the 1st they're hearing about it. Lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that a rating of AO is equal to censorship. Whether or not the game is any good I think it&#8217;s wrong that a company refuse to allow an AO game on their consoles. Let the consumers decide.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more upset at Sony and Nintendo that the ESRB or anyone else involved in this. Have the courage to stand behind their products. They both knew damn well what Manhunt was and were more than happy to oblige right up until the rating&#8230; now they act like it&#8217;s the 1st they&#8217;re hearing about it. Lame.</p>
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