Win Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix for the Xbox 360!

I will add something. I’m surprise that a hardcore gaming site like Siliconera would be promoting a movie based game. Don’t get me wrong, I love Harry Potter, out of all the $%#& coming out of Hollywood these days, the Harry Potter movies stand out as being very good, but then again, they are based on books.

My problem is that games based on movies are nothing but a sad attempt to cash in on a hype and I’m surprise that Siliconera would sunk into this kind of marketing. You want to promote games, no problems, but at lease make them real games. There’s tone of grade A games out there, why not try to promote one of those?

Does it really matter if is a Harry Potter game? Come on man lighten up. It’s just a few giveaway.

Like I clearly stated (clean your contacts), it’s not because it’s a Harry Potter game, it’s because it’s a movie based game. Siliconera has a reputation of being an Hardcore gaming site, which deals with the best local games and best imported games. I simply would have ever expected something like this here.

*Some* movies games are actually pretty good. From the reviews I’ve read so far, this one is, too.
I figured the answer pretty quickly too, but since I don’t have a 360…

Please, name me some movie to game titles that are worth spending $40 to $50 on.

I forgot Lego Star Wars, don’t know if it counts as a movie title (given that it’s a title based on movies, I’d say so) – I really enjoyed that one and it’s worth buying. The first one scored around 80%, the second one 85%.

God, there’s no arguing with you, is there? You’re always right and the other is always wrong. If you wanna turn this into some kind of “can you trust gamerankings, a site that has the average of as many reviews as possible” or “which game site is the best” discussion be my guest.

My point was just that Harry Potter is not just a “sad attempt to cash in on a hype”.

Again, I agree with you mostly that most movie games are utter crap, but I see nothing wrong with Siliconera promoting an “okay” game.

“God, there’s no arguing with you, is there?”

Lol Toma, don’t waist your time. You can prove him wrong(as I have in previous debates), and he’ll refuse to accept it.

Anyways, who cares if Siliconera is being paid to advertise the movie, cause they’re giving away a free game which is more important…not to mention a nice thing to do. And what would be wrong with adverting a movie-based game, as long they don’t try to feed me positive info for a bad game, I have no issue. If people are too stupid to think the Harry Potter movie or game is good, just because they saw an ad on here, then they shouldn’t even be allowed on the internet.

“I’m surprise that a hardcore gaming site like Siliconera would be promoting a movie based game.”

Really, why are you surprised? It’s a video game, which is what Siliconera is all about. I’m not sure what you mean by “hardcore”, cause Siliconera fortunately covers alot of different types of games. What would be surprising to me, is if the game ended up being good, and wasn’t covered at all by here. If this site completely ignored all movie-based games, it would be retarded, since alot of readers want to know about them. Games like Harry Potter, PotC, Spiderman, and whatever else are too popular with readers to just ignore.

Yeah, most movie-based games are rushed cash-in games. But who cares, it’s not like everyone doesn’t know this, since they always get bad reviews. However, if a GOOD movies-based game was made a month before released, I’d still get it.

Why would the devs want to release a game a year later after the movie comes out, when all the hypes died down. That would hurt their game’s sales…duh, so I don’t understand why anyone would expect them to do such a stupid move. I would PREFER to play the game soon after watching the movie, whiles I still feel excitement towards to the movie.

Lol Toma, don’t waist your time. You can prove him wrong(as I have in previous debates), and he’ll refuse to accept it.

I’m sorry, and you are?

Anyways, who cares if Siliconera is being paid to advertise the movie, cause they’re giving away a free game which is more important…not to mention a nice thing to do.

A movie advertisement would be a great improvement over a movie licensed game. I have nothing against Harry P movies, I love them. This is about advertising the game based on the movie.

And what would be wrong with adverting a movie-based game, as long they don’t try to feed me positive info for a bad game, I have no issue. If people are too stupid to think the Harry Potter movie or game is good, just because they saw an ad on here, then they shouldn’t even be allowed on the internet.

That’s the point of advertising. How many games have you seen with really cool ads which ended up sucking ballz for dinner? People associate popularity with something being good. The more ads for something, the more popular it will seem and the more temping the purchase. That’s Advertising 101. Also, you got to keep in mind that most people that surf the internet are not like you and me, they are common people surfing the web and getting scammed by ads. If spam and ads didn’t work, trust me, companies would have stopped using them long ago.

Really, why are you surprised? It’s a video game, which is what Siliconera is all about. I’m not sure what you mean by “hardcore”, cause Siliconera fortunately covers alot of different types of games. What would be surprising to me, is if the game ended up being good, and wasn’t covered at all by here. If this site completely ignored all movie-based games, it would be retarded, since alot of readers want to know about them. Games like Harry Potter, PotC, Spiderman, and whatever else are too popular with readers to just ignore.

I know it’s a game, so is this: http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180165

But I doubt that Siliconera would review or advertise this. This is why we have game sites (IGN) which will cover any junk for Mr. everyone and then we have sites like this that will focus on the good stuff. That’s what I mean when I say Hardcore.

Yeah, most movie-based games are rushed cash-in games. But who cares, it’s not like everyone doesn’t know this, since they always get bad reviews. However, if a GOOD movies-based game was made a month before released, I’d still get it.

Well it’s good to know you have the budget to buy all the games you want. People who are on a budget tend to buy grade A titles. Let me know what you think of the game when you get.

Why would the devs want to release a game a year later after the movie comes out, when all the hypes died down. That would hurt their game’s sales…duh, so I don’t understand why anyone would expect them to do such a stupid move. I would PREFER to play the game soon after watching the movie, whiles I still feel excitement towards to the movie.

And the truth will set you free. There, you said it, it’s all about the hype. If this game was to be released a year after, the sales for this rushed game probably wouldn’t have covered the development cost. We all know that companies don’t invest a lot time and money in movie licensed games, so it’s saying a lot. Again, I hate GTA style games, but if a game like Godfather got good praised, it’s because developers took their time into making this. Why? Simple, the movie was out before I was even born, butchering this would have been inexcusable.

“This is about advertising the game based on the movie.”

I’m certain Spencer posted this SPECIFICALLY to inform reader about a generous giveaway, whiles at the same time giving us info on the upcoming game.

Like really, I see NO advertisements. Where is the movie, and game release date? Where is the DIRECT link to Harry Potter official website, or EA website. I guess every single game Siliconera posts info about will translate into indirect adverting.

“But I doubt that Siliconera would review or advertise this. This is why we have game sites (IGN) which will cover any junk for Mr. everyone and then we have sites like this that will focus on the good stuff. That’s what I mean when I say Hardcore.”

Ok? Uhh, Siliconera has posted info on quite a few crappy games. I don’t know how anyone can expect this site to always magically be able to predict what ends up being a good or great game, and cover it with previews and other info on it.

“Well it’s good to know you have the budget to buy all the games you want. People who are on a budget tend to buy grade A titles. Let me know what you think of the game when you get.”

I never suggested I had a large budget. *sigh* Learn to read plz.

“And the truth will set you free. There, you said it, it’s all about the hype. If this game was to be released a year after, the sales for this rushed game probably wouldn’t have covered the development cost.”

You clearly didn’t understand the jist of my point. My point was that developers understandably release their games around the time of the movie, so they can make more money off of it. Why do they make more money off it? Because people interests in these games WILL be higher around when the movie has been released. So no, it’s NOT all about hype, and I never said it was.

“I’m sorry, and you are?”

The dude who has beaten your ass in both our debates. You have bad memory :)

Wow, you’ keep on rambling just for the hell of it, don’t you?

Well, this has been ANOTHER debate in which you have ended up making an ass out of yourself in. And Judging by the other people’s post, I’m sure they agree with me.

proceed with your rambling…

:)

No, I won them by making logical arguments. You clearly don’t know how to do that.

“Man, by the time we’re done with this topic, you’ll have learned a lot about marketing. When a company gives out freebies to the website or TV Show, they expect them to give them out to the audience, that my friend, is advertising, more precisely, FREE advertising. How does it work? Simple, if EA for example, keeps giving Spencer freebies to give out to us, some members might keep this in mind the next time they’re at Wal-Mart or GameStop, not knowing what to pick up to blow a few days of boredom. Keep in mind grasshopper, when it comes to business, there’s no such thing as charity, every move has a purpose. Giving a few games to Spencer is like giving him $5 worth of plastic. In exchange for the publicity he’s making (unintentionally), that’s like trading 10 apples for a car.”

Yes, EA is trying to advertise the game, but who cares? Thre are ads all over this ex. dating ones. (what does that have to do with videogames?) Really, what’s the problem with them advertising their game? You said in your previous post that it’s because movie-based games usually suck, but that’s a stupid reason.

“Don’t recall any title of the past, but if it helps to clear something out, there’s a difference between a title that has the potential to be good and a title that never had any. No one expect a license movie game to be good, but we could expect a SquareEnix RPG to be good. If a SquareEnix RPG fails, well that’s that, it had the potential, but didn’t live up to the hype. Now let’s see what’s movie is coming soon… ah yes, Rush Hour 3. I don’t know if they plan to make a game out of this movie, but I think we can all agree that if they do, it will most likely suck and it probably won’t have”

Do you not understand the point of what I was saying? You address my point about *Siliconera ocassionally covering bad games*, by bringing up the potential for a game or movie turning out bad or good. More rambling…

“Sure sounds like what you said. But regardless if you didn’t mean that, fact is, this is how it works. For the same reason a new game based on the 4th Harry P. movie wouldn’t sale that well if released now, this new game wouldn’t do better next year. IT IS all about the Hype! Why do you think McDonald’s only releases movies toys before a movie comes out? Because of the Hype. Why does BestBuy displays the Transformers movie game on their promotional HD TVs? Because of the Hype. Hype is the ultimate tool for advertising, it spreads like a super virus and it’s the topic of a lot of discussions”

This is what proves to me you’re not to smart. As I had REITERATED, the jist of my point was that developers should release their game around the time of the movie, so they make more money. But what do you do, you once again dismiss that, and focus on the stupid hype thing…AGAIN, why do you sidestep? Wait, I know why, it’s because you said in your first or 2nd post that they could release their movie-based games a year later. Which is stupid move financially, since people usually want the game around the time of the movie release, which is proven by sales, understand grasshopper? Yes, they’re cashing in the hype of the movie, it’s freakin obvious(oooh, I could say that in one sentence, instead of rambling about McDonalds)

“It’s just that the only other possibility would have been that you only bought these kind of games instead of grade A titles. So which is it? Do you have the budget to buy every games you want or do you only buy movie and TV licensed games?

Wow. Do you know how stupid a question that is? I proudly buy all kinds of games, including movie-based ones. Why would anyone expect someone to buy just movie-based games, and not other types. I don’t have a large budget, but I sooner or later buy any game I want. OMG, someone can buy both movie-based games and other genre games as well, *gasps*, what’s the world coming to?

“Yes I do have a bad memory, more precisely, it’s called a Selective Memory. My brain basically flushes out what it find to be of no use (no offense). Some people see this as an inconvenient, I see this as an advantage for 2 reasons:

1- We get distracted by our good memories everyday, even more for people with ADD such as myself. I can’t imagine how annoying it would be to be distracted by useless memories while trying to remove the jumpers of a HardDrive while it’s still in the computer with all the IDE and Power cables still attached.

2- As much as I love debating, I know that it serves me no real purpose, I mean at the end of the day, no cares but me. So ya, I don’t recall if we had debates last month or last week but I do know this, if I were to actually remember you or the discussions we had, what would it say about me. I would sound like a looser who has nothing more important to remember. ”

MORE RAMBLING….

“The times that you claim to have “beaten my ass” must have been important days for you to remember them but for me,”

Please, keep denying it, keep playing dumb, I don’t care. I beat you again, and you’ll probably say you couldn’t remember me sometime in the future, WHEN I DO IT AGAIN!!

All in all, please tell me A GOOD REASON why Siliconera shouldn’t promote this giveaway, because them advertising the gamesn’t a good one. What is wrong with advertising the game, considering it’s a gaming site.

If you reply, please address the specific points I made, instead of sidestepping them, or going off-topic, as you seem fond of doing. And please, oh please, stop rambling. Thank you.

And enough about the “More rambling” statements. I ramble, you’re just looking for excuses not to answer things you don’t understand or that can put you in a bad situation.

And enough about the “More rambling” statements. I don’t ramble, you’re just looking for excuses not to answer things you don’t understand or that can put you in a bad situation.

FIXED

Alex man, you need help, seriously, these are signs of delusions.

Although I’m not officially a pro, I can analyze you:

I’m not calling you a rambler because I need an excuse to win this argument, because:

1. YOU DO RAMBLE

2. The simple fact of the matter is I already won it, whether you can comprehend, or accept it, is of no significance.

Even (and I do push the word even) if you have won this debate, going around telling the other guy to shut up because you are the victor is a clear sign of insecurity. And for the last time, I don’t ramble. I talk a lot, but I don’t talk for nothing. I think you simply don’t like to read to much, so whatever is to long for you is rambling.

You clearly didn’t follow my advice. :(

I answered your question as simply as I could. The only reason you are saying this is because it’s not the answer you wanted to hear.

P.S. If it makes you feel better, your welcome to make a final quip.

See now this is where the delusion comes in strong. In this phrase, you are stating that your someone important and that you are giving me a privilege to me by allowing me to reply to you. Alex, you’re not important, on the Internet, you’re just another user. What do you do or say will not change anything and if you were to stop visiting (let’s say you get hit by a car), the world and the Internet will keep on turning. So no, I will not stop replying and not, I will not keep my comments to myself and no, I don’t think I’m wrong and you know you what, there’s nothing you can do. On the Internet, you are nothing and can do nothing (well except for flaming, but no one ever dies from being flamed to death).

Hope that clears up a few things for you