Comments on: Fallout 3: It may be a wasteland, but it’s oh so beautiful

By: AsukaN

AsukaN — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:50:25 +0000

Hahahahaha Zantetsu. The term RPG means role playing game. Which means you play in a role of a character in a story. Albeit most games can fit that definition when stated that way, generally however an RPG also includes classic elements derived from table top games such as D&D. There are plenty of amazing RPGs where you go page by page through a story. No multiple endings or anything. So all this rubbish about user influencing actions being the core of RPG gameplay is simply that. Rubbish.

And anyone who whines about Fallout 3 ruining the series history FORGETS Tactics AND BOS.
Tactics – a squad based action game that had little storyline and (as I remember) no multiple endings.
Brotherhood of Steel – I really do not feel I have to explain this one.

Fallout 3 CANNOT be worse then BS, err, BoS. I am so sick of stupid fanboys saying “its going to be terrible”. And yes, while I too am angry about it, I am still going to play the game, and most likely enjoy it. Maybe not as a Fallout, but on its own merits.

As for the true fallout 3, looks like its back to the modsquad…

By: AsukaN

AsukaN — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:50:00 +0000

As for the true fallout 3, looks like its back to the modsquad…

By: Zantetsu

Zantetsu — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:51:41 +0000

I agree with CommunistCow and rl2000 (dident have time to read everything)
Comparing the making of Fallout by Bethesda is like creating a poem by a known football player… The game will be just for making money. After realising Oblivion there where many complaints about the gameplay, the size of the terain on which you can play, the “one way” quests… Thats not an RPG when you are the character of an alredy written book and you are just playing to get to the next page, and the next one, and next one untill THE END… What i mean is that you have no influance of what will happen – it will just happen and only this will happen because the gamemakers wanted it this way – you cant kill everybody in a city. Why ? Because the character is linked with a quest or it is just plain important (thats genius!)… Another one – You have to speak with somebody to give you a book that a character asked you for. (ok easy one, go talk to him, he says no, you go back and say your questgiver he dident want to give you the book,the questgiver says you what u must say, then go back to the other guy and say this “bla bla bla”… ok you have the book)… Why not just steal it from the guy, why not threat him that if he dont give us the book then we “will put a nice sharpened blade to his throat, and force him to eat every page of the book untill it is gone, and if not… well, your choise”, how about putting him asleep with a poison (in Oblivion are many poisons that just have no use – u cant use them, u can put them on a table, but so what ? The bottle is the same as a bottle of wine and you replaced it whit the poison… its just an object and will not be used, it is all just there for the eye (just like the whole Oblivion, i have 2GB ram, Core2duo 1.8 and a nvidia GF8800GTS… so what, the game is jumpy on maximum details and even so it doesent look good – it is so beautifull, so… candy’ish…)
That is very important in RPG’s that you can do every quest, every action (at least – a lot) in what way you want – the easiest example of this is – do it the right way or the wrong way… And in fallout it was always – do it the way u want :)
This can be made again or even better, even Bethesda can make it… But it looks like they want to make just a “golden egg” and sell it… But why not making a “Chicken laying golden eggs”. When you where buying Fallout 1 or 2 or both, you wasnt buying a graphical masterpiece (but on the 199* years it was great, and it still is great), if you can call Oblivion a graphicall masterpiece, rather a CPU, RAM, extra expensive graphic card sucking monster to show you what u CAN do… But what for ?… What is a game that is made only for watching ?
You realy dont have to use your mind to play this…
Every next game is just made for cash, and that is not a bad thing, but dont screw up fallout because all the games are very very similar. Everything you have to do is to have a console and a pad, it is like operating a shovel…

And with that what are you playing now is mind-junking… Imagine what your kids will play.
Shame on you Bethesda, or make a great best game ever made (or at least not less good then fallout 1/2 ) :)
Cheers

By: Zantetsu

Zantetsu — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:51:00 +0000

By: TheCommunistCow

TheCommunistCow — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:09:36 +0000

Wow… that was just dumb.
The developers for the original Fallouts stated multiple times that much of Fallout was based on the fears and stories about nukes and radiation from the 50′s, especially pulp fiction.
That’s why there are giant scorpions, that’s why there are mutants and ghouls, that’s why the car from Fallout 2 was designed to look like a car from the 50′s, and so on and so forth.

By: TheCommunistCow

TheCommunistCow — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:09:00 +0000

By: moriarty

moriarty — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:43:33 +0000

i think it’s funny that the nma fanboy said fallout was ’50s inspired

you’d think someone who claimed to be a real fan or whatever would know that the two primary influences on the original fallouts’ artistic direction were art deco and futurism – neither of which survived into the ’40s

if you’re going to try and come off as some sort of font of fallout-related wisdom, you might want to try harder, pal

By: moriarty

moriarty — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:43:00 +0000

i think it’s funny that the nma fanboy said fallout was ’50s inspired

if you’re going to try and come off as some sort of font of fallout-related wisdom, you might want to try harder, pal

By: Marco

Marco — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:33:11 +0000

Since I never played the first 2 Fallout games (and even if I did, I wouldn’t care since I don’t really care if game series’ change since sometimes it can be for the better like Final Fantasy XII), I don’t really care if it changed, and as long as its enjoyable and good, and seeing from your preview, it WILL be, then its definitely going to be a buy for me! Unless it ends up being absolutely screwed up in the end.

By: Marco

Marco — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:33:00 +0000

By: Jamey

Jamey — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:09:28 +0000

@Paul P: The decision to move Fallout 3 from turn based isometric to real time first person came way back in the Interplay days, it doesn’t originate with Bethsoft

By: Jamey

Jamey — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:09:00 +0000

@Paul P: The decision to move Fallout 3 from turn based isometric to real time first person came way back in the Interplay days, it doesn’t originate with Bethsoft

By: rl2000

rl2000 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:20:08 +0000

Calling fanboys thoughtless is just plain ignorant. I really fail to see how oblivion not being PA, not being turnbased, not being isoview, not having dialog and not have shades of gray style choices that forever lock you out of other aspects of the game can come to symbolize the spirit of Fallout for you.

This game WILL dissapoint a lot of people, people who’ve stood by a game like fallout for so many years and have just been pissed on and have endured countless dissapointments. So excuse these people for being a bit uptight about wanting what they’ve been witing for, excuse them for demanding that when someone buys the license they live up to a minimum of what the game the license is based on made them feel.

Me? I loved fallout 1 & 2, I even preordere tactics, so I have the special box and the nifty little handbag that came with it. I don’t think FO3 will be a bad game, in fact, it looks like it’s going to sell a gazillion copies and looks great. But it’s isn’t fallout. 1st person may be what they call immersive, but that’s not fallout, the vault dweeller was you CHARACTER, he wasn’t you, that’s a very important part of the feel.

But I could keep naming things that made fallout fallout, but that doesn’t change the fact that that’s not what Bethesda wants to do, which they have admitted, this game is not for the pople who liked the gameplay and feel of the orginal series. This is for the new kind of gamer, this is for their own fans and this is for massproduction on consoles.

Now, this doesn’t make it a bad game, but it’s definately not fallout.

I’m not a fanboy per say, I’ve never really been a forum activist and up untill lately I didn’t really follow fallout news since tactics. But I do love fallout, in my eyes it’s the best RPG ever made, it is unique and hasn’t been done before or since in the way it was done. And fallout 3 won’t change that, it will be more like a lot of other games, it will be more generic.

But what can you expect, they kind of game fallout1&2 was won’t cut it for consoles, it was built for mouse and keybaord and a screen where you can actually READ, games today are mostly made for massmarkets, for crossplatform, that’s where the bacon is.

I don’t blame bethesda for thinking their game is coolm I don’t blame them for wanting to make money and sell as monay copies as they possibly can, who wouldn’t.

That just doesn’t make this a worthy heir to the fallout license.

Van buren wasn’t even alpha yet, and still it made me cry when I saw what I could’ve gotten, my beloved fallout back.

But I agree, this game won’t dissapoint anyone but the fans of fallout…

By: rl2000

rl2000 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:20:00 +0000

Now, this doesn’t make it a bad game, but it’s definately not fallout.

I don’t blame bethesda for thinking their game is coolm I don’t blame them for wanting to make money and sell as monay copies as they possibly can, who wouldn’t.

That just doesn’t make this a worthy heir to the fallout license.

Van buren wasn’t even alpha yet, and still it made me cry when I saw what I could’ve gotten, my beloved fallout back.

But I agree, this game won’t dissapoint anyone but the fans of fallout…

By: jeremyk

jeremyk — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:29:55 +0000

I am as huge a fallout 1/2 fan as there is and I’m excited about this new game, oblivion-tinted or not.

Having seen what black isle was going to try and pass off as a third installment – retreading the very same ground, but a decade later, I’m glad some new hands are going to have a go at it. Oblivion (and Gothic 1/2/3) are the games I’ve felt have gotten closest to the spirit of what made the fallout series so great to begin with, and I honestly would be SURPRISED if this new game disappoints anyone but the most rabid thoughtless fanboys.