Is NieR Two Separate Games?

By Ishaan . September 9, 2009 . 12:47pm

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Famitsu indicates something curious is going on with NieR. The latest issue lists NieR Gestalt only as an Xbox 360 game with a 2010 release window. If you recall, the game was supposed to be multiplatform for both high-def consoles.

 

Perhaps, that’s why there’s another listing for NieR Replicant, a game on which no details — including platform — have been divulged. All we have for now is a picture of a lady. Nier’s wife or infected daughter perhaps? It’s quite likely this is the PS3 version.

 

Is Square releasing two separate console exclusive versions of NieR? Maybe one to appeal to their different Eastern and Western markets? That would be ingenious.


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  • neo_firenze

    Ugh. I don’t think the idea of “westernizing” a game to appeal to what Japanese developers think the westerners want is a good idea. Especially if they do something like make the 360 version the “western friendly” game and the PS3 version for Japanese.

    Brings to mind Capcom’s butchering of Sengoku Basara in the US Devil Kings. Not a model I’d like to see other publishers follow.

  • thebanditking

    Here is the problem with your thinking on this, if Neir Gestat is only for 360 (westerners) and Replicant for PS3, then what would western PS3 owners be getting (other then the shaft….AGAIN). If Square was so unsure of Neir’s potential in the Asian markets that they would change the Japanese version then wouldn’t it make more sense to release Replicant on PS3 and 360 in the east and Gestat on PS3/360 in the West? Also whos to say that Japanese 360 owners (all 5 of them) dont want to play a more eastern style game, the reverse can be said of Western PS3 owners. Unless something more dubious is going on, something that involves shady under the table deals.Hopefully this is a mistake, because I am growing really tired of MS pulling all these exclusivity checks (whoops I mean deals) from out of no where, I wish they would just get some decent 1st parties, so this nonsense can stop. MS last gen was looking to become the next Sega with titles like Oddworld Stranger, Voodoo Vince and Otogi plus all the other great games they got, and they were exclusive because they were only possible on Xbox or were actually MS IP’s. Now? They pay out the nose to just to get versions of games that end up coming to the PS3 and have more features and free content to boot. Just seems stupid as the only ones who loose out is the 360 only owners and those of us who look stupid double dipping on big titles. MS should be putting its money into its own developers.

    • Hraesvelgr

      Paying for exclusives is something that has been done for years, even before Microsoft jumped into the market. Sony did it in the past and is probably part of the reason why they’ve had such a high level of success in the market.

      In any case, how is it that only PS3 owners are getting the shaft if this is the case? What about people who want to play both games or would rather play the more “Japanese” one? How is this supposed exclusivity deal that you seem to think Microsoft is making even related? It makes no sense. Does Sony have an exclusivity deal for the other Nier game, then? Sheesh.

      • http://eonhack.blogspot.com theclaw

        I don’t think it really matters. Most supposedly paid exclusives have never been proven. So I tend to treat claims of a game being paid for, as BS from Sony fanboys trying to discredit Microsoft.

        • thebanditking

          Not saying thats the case here but it seems possible. Also paid for exclusives are somthing that has been going on since this gen started, and while of course no one will ever confirm them, that does not change the fact that there is little reason to do one outside of money, especiall with dev costs being what they are. Like Star Ocean, when pressed for a reason it was not multi-plat S-E was quoted as saying “Certain factors prevent us from doing so”. Not to mention the trailer for Star Ocean TLH was put on one of the PSP games as a bonus trailer, before the platform was named. Why put advertising of any kind for a game that is not coming to any of that companys platforms?

      • thebanditking

        So far this gen I have seen little in the way of 3rd party exclusives from Sony so I doubt they have anything to do with Neir, even though I think this is all a big mix up on Famitsu’s part, I think Replica is a PSP game.Still when it comes to 3rd party deals look no further then FF14 to see how Sony handles things. It was announced as an exclusive at their press conference, but a few weeks later S-E was free and able to talk about a possible 360 version. Though when I look at the reverse with games like Lost Planet, Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia, Eternal Sonata, those companies are forbidden from even talking about the possibility. It’s not hard to come to the conclusion that so far MS has paid for every exclusive from a 3rd party this gen. Other wise why can these companies not talk about versions of games that already exist? Personally I have all 3 systems any way (which is more thenmost who bring up this topic can say) I just would rather see MS follow the plan they laid out last gen, the one where games like Otogi, Voodoo Vince, Blinx, and Phantom Dust came out. Also it would seem I did not properly convey my opinion in my original post, as I was simply hoping that no deal was struck as the game was announced for both to begin with.
        As for the PS2 exclusives I never thought that Sony was paying for them, and still dont think that was the case. Rather that seemed more like “keeping it in the family” Japanese devs supporting a Japanese product. Though you could mention Nintendo but I think at that point they had burned a lot of bridges moving from the NES to N64 so the Gamecube was just left out. Though even Nintendo got Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil and Killer 7. I saw the lack of Japanese games on the original Xbox not as Sony stopping them from coming but rather the Japanese not wanting to support a foreign product.

    • gar3

      “Hopefully this is a mistake, because I am growing really tired of MS pulling all these exclusivity checks (whoops I mean deals) from out of no where, I wish they would just get some decent 1st parties, so this nonsense can stop.”

      Oh yeah, cause Sony had “tons” of first-party support back in the day and didn’t once “money hat” anything. Let’s not forget the differences between first-party and second-party for either camp from any generation in our little tirade.

      • thebanditking

        I see you point, though when the original Playstation launched Sony had more second party efforts like Crash and Spyro. Though by the time PS2 came around Sony had Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Studio Cambridge, Team Ico, Ployphony Digital, The Wipeout team, and others I am forgetting.Its just my opinion that MS has closed and lost some important people along the way, Beep Industries was a fantastic developer (alot better then Rare) yet after only one game they shut them down, then they shut down the Halo wars team who for what it was worth was one of the better PC devs out there for RTS’s. I just think for all the money they spend on timed exclusives they should be using it to create original IP’s.

  • Hraesvelgr

    Not really interested in Nier at the moment anyway. Maybe they’ll put out some info that makes me interested, but from what we know and have seen so far, it looks like a pass.

  • neo_firenze

    By the way, it appears the PS3 version has a female protagonist and the 360 version has a male protagonist. Not sure about other differences at this time. Perhaps S-E is trying to use this as an opportunity to sell the other game’s exclusive character as DLC (think Soul Calibur IV’s handling of Yoda and Darth Vader).

    I kinda doubt there are really substantial changes based on east/west tastes, but it’s an interesting talking point. And I stand by my Devil Kings/Sengoku Basara example as a great illustration of how that’s a really really bad idea.

  • Icon

    Well, Ishaan was the only one suggesting the separate games might mean SE wants to appeal to two different markets, so I wouldn’t worry.

    To me, this doesn’t make sense in 2009. With a tighter and slower games market, why would you release a game exclusively to one market? Companies try to recoup development costs any way they can, which is one main reason we have so many multiplatform games nowadays. In all likelihood it’s just a creative business decision. I mean, does the Square Enix brand resonate with Xbox owners? Not as much as it does with PS3 and PSP owners.

    • http://www.siliconera.com Spencer

      It would be funny if NieR is handled like Tales of Vesperia or Eternal Sonata where the Xbox 360 version comes out first and then a PS3 release comes on board with more content.

      • thebanditking

        I don’t think everyone would share your sense of humor on that one, it would be one of those tings that would leave a bitter taste in peoples mouth. Kind of like The Last Remnant, the game is horrible (and thats being kind) but yet bring it up and PS3 die hard will throw it on top of a list of games they feel cheated out of. Even though its the people who actually paid $60 for that game who got cheated.

  • Aoshi00

    Design-wise, they all sport the similar Rygar look like N3 2, very uninteresting.. I hope it’s not two versions so people who own either console would miss out. And they better not pull the Vader/Yoda crap..

    • QBasic

      Except you can buy buy either Vader or Yoda for their respective opposite versions via either PSN or Live…

      • Aoshi00

        I know.. but I never spent the 6 dollars (?) to create that dream match, so I went w/ Lord Vader. Would’ve put up w/ Yoda if I knew PS3 ver. didn’t have trophies.

        • QBasic

          It’s five dollars. :P I think….

          Is Yoda not worth FIVE dollars!? A single Yoda is like a pack of unicorns, man…

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  • thebanditking

    Well Square commented on this, and said “The Famitsu advertisment has no effect on the NA release” Meaning 1. Microsoft (as I thought) piad for another timed exclusive, this time it only effects Japan, which again sucks for PS3 gamers as the game was already announced as multi-plat. 2. We still have no clue what Neir Replicant is or what its for.

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