Comments on: Is NieR Two Separate Games?

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:11:40 +0000

Well Square commented on this, and said “The Famitsu advertisment has no effect on the NA release” Meaning 1. Microsoft (as I thought) piad for another timed exclusive, this time it only effects Japan, which again sucks for PS3 gamers as the game was already announced as multi-plat. 2. We still have no clue what Neir Replicant is or what its for.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:14:56 +0000

I don't think everyone would share your sense of humor on that one, it would be one of those tings that would leave a bitter taste in peoples mouth. Kind of like The Last Remnant, the game is horrible (and thats being kind) but yet bring it up and PS3 die hard will throw it on top of a list of games they feel cheated out of. Even though its the people who actually paid $60 for that game who got cheated.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:33:37 +0000

So far this gen I have seen little in the way of 3rd party exclusives from Sony so I doubt they have anything to do with Neir, even though I think this is all a big mix up on Famitsu's part, I think Replica is a PSP game.
Still when it comes to 3rd party deals look no further then FF14 to see how Sony handles things. It was announced as an exclusive at their press conference, but a few weeks later S-E was free and able to talk about a possible 360 version. Though when I look at the reverse with games like Lost Planet, Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia, Eternal Sonata, those companies are forbidden from even talking about the possibility. It's not hard to come to the conclusion that so far MS has paid for every exclusive from a 3rd party this gen. Other wise why can these companies not talk about versions of games that already exist? Personally I have all 3 systems any way (which is more thenmost who bring up this topic can say) I just would rather see MS follow the plan they laid out last gen, the one where games like Otogi, Voodoo Vince, Blinx, and Phantom Dust came out. Also it would seem I did not properly convey my opinion in my original post, as I was simply hoping that no deal was struck as the game was announced for both to begin with.
As for the PS2 exclusives I never thought that Sony was paying for them, and still dont think that was the case. Rather that seemed more like “keeping it in the family” Japanese devs supporting a Japanese product. Though you could mention Nintendo but I think at that point they had burned a lot of bridges moving from the NES to N64 so the Gamecube was just left out. Though even Nintendo got Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil and Killer 7. I saw the lack of Japanese games on the original Xbox not as Sony stopping them from coming but rather the Japanese not wanting to support a foreign product.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:08:09 +0000

I see you point, though when the original Playstation launched Sony had more second party efforts like Crash and Spyro. Though by the time PS2 came around Sony had Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Studio Cambridge, Team Ico, Ployphony Digital, The Wipeout team, and others I am forgetting.
Its just my opinion that MS has closed and lost some important people along the way, Beep Industries was a fantastic developer (alot better then Rare) yet after only one game they shut them down, then they shut down the Halo wars team who for what it was worth was one of the better PC devs out there for RTS's. I just think for all the money they spend on timed exclusives they should be using it to create original IP's.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:49:07 +0000

Not saying thats the case here but it seems possible. Also paid for exclusives are somthing that has been going on since this gen started, and while of course no one will ever confirm them, that does not change the fact that there is little reason to do one outside of money, especiall with dev costs being what they are. Like Star Ocean, when pressed for a reason it was not multi-plat S-E was quoted as saying “Certain factors prevent us from doing so”. Not to mention the trailer for Star Ocean TLH was put on one of the PSP games as a bonus trailer, before the platform was named. Why put advertising of any kind for a game that is not coming to any of that companys platforms?

By: gar3

gar3 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:41:24 +0000

“Hopefully this is a mistake, because I am growing really tired of MS pulling all these exclusivity checks (whoops I mean deals) from out of no where, I wish they would just get some decent 1st parties, so this nonsense can stop.”

Oh yeah, cause Sony had “tons” of first-party support back in the day and didn't once “money hat” anything. Let's not forget the differences between first-party and second-party for either camp from any generation in our little tirade.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:11:40 +0000

Well Square commented on this, and said “The Famitsu advertisement has no effect on the NA release” Meaning 1. Microsoft (as I thought) piad for another timed exclusive, this time it only effects Japan. 2. We still have no clue what Neir Replicant is or what its for.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:14:56 +0000

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:33:37 +0000

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:08:09 +0000

I see you point, though when the original Playstation launched Sony had more second party efforts like Crash and Spyro. Though by the time PS2 came around Sony had Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Studio Cambridge, Team Ico, Ployphony Digital, The Wipeout team, and others I am forgetting.
Its just my opinion that MS has closed and lost some important people along the way, Beep Industries was a fantastic developer (alot better then Rare) yet after only one game they shut them down, then they shut down the Halo wars team who for what it was worth was one of the better PC devs out there for RTS's. I just think for all the money they spend on times exclusives they should be using it to create original IP's.

By: thebanditking

thebanditking — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:49:07 +0000

Not saying thats the case here but it seems possible. Also paid for exclusives are somthing that has benn going on for quite some time, amd while of course no one will ever confirm them, but thats does not change the fact that there is little reason to do one outside of money. Like Star Ocean, when pressed for a reason it was not multi-plat S-E was quoted as saying “Certain factors prevent us from doing so”. Not to mention the trailer for Star Ocean TLH was put on one of the PSP games as a bonus trailer, before the platform was named. Why put advertising of any kind for a game that is not coming to any of that companys platforms?

By: gar3

gar3 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:41:24 +0000

By: theclaw

theclaw — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:18:22 +0000

I don't think it really matters. Most supposedly paid exclusives have never been proven. So I tend to treat claims of a game being paid for, as BS from Sony fanboys trying to discredit Microsoft.

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By: Spencer

Spencer — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:47:46 +0000

It would be funny if NieR is handled like Tales of Vesperia or Eternal Sonata where the Xbox 360 version comes out first and then a PS3 release comes on board with more content.