Comments on: Shiren the Wanderer Steps Into North America Early

By: malek86

malek86 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:16:14 +0000

Hey, I know. I've never got to the end myself. But I did get all the way down to 27F by running from scratch. That's my personal record.

By: cowcow

cowcow — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:07:17 +0000

Doesnt seem worth it with all those options taken out. Seems like they just rushed the game

By: ECM

ECM — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:18:05 +0000

This is true, to a point but Shiren is built with the notion that you will replay the same levels over and over and over again to upgrade your gear–it is not designed as a one-run game and I'd love to see more than one person in 100k actually do a run from scratch and beat the game.

By: Ujn Hunter

Ujn Hunter — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:15:45 +0000

Lookin' good there Atlus! :) Thanks for bringing sweet games over to the U.S.

By: jarrodand

jarrodand — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:45:43 +0000

The new easy mode sort of mitigates this imo. No real need to rely on rescues now if you just want to play through without the tension of usual roguelikes.

By: malek86

malek86 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:16:14 +0000

Hey, I know. I've never got to the end myself. But I did get all the way down to 27F by running from scratch. That's my personal record.

By: cowcow

cowcow — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:07:17 +0000

Doesnt seem worth it with all those options taken out. Seems like they just rushed the game

By: ECM

ECM — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:18:05 +0000

By: Ujn Hunter

Ujn Hunter — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:15:45 +0000

Lookin' good there Atlus! :) Thanks for bringing sweet games over to the U.S.

By: jarrodand

jarrodand — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:45:43 +0000

The new easy mode sort of mitigates this imo. No real need to rely on rescues now if you just want to play through without the tension of usual roguelikes.

By: Kuronoa

Kuronoa — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:32:17 +0000

Hardly played these type of games so that is nice to hear, especially to make up for the lack of rescue. ^^

By: Mr_Qoo

Mr_Qoo — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:19:37 +0000

The mention of not losing everything when you perish is promising that I might actually finish this one! I don't have the time anymore to play roguelike's and risk losing everything every time. Maybe that makes me less “hardcore” even though I have no problem pouring hours into any game's system to master it, something doesn't appeal to me with losing everything when I want to goof off.

I like the idea of a “mode” where you lose everything when you die and one where it's the usual affair (back to last save point). That way I can advance in time to the challenge, yet still enjoy the hoarding of equipment, leveling, etc. I miss Torneko…

By: malek86

malek86 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:53:55 +0000

Hey, happens with all roguelikes. Actually, on the real roguelikes (the PC ones) you don't even get to keep some of your items for the next run - once you're dead, you simply start over. So every run is a game by itself.

Kinda cool, I must say, because it means there's no way of "grinding" your path to the end.

On a different note, I lost my Katana+20 I was building up, not because of monsters, but because the game froze on me.

By: ECM

ECM — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:43:37 +0000

That's kinda my point: the game is far, far too unforgiving unless you have the patience of the entire Catholic regiment of Saints. I mean one bad (read: unlucky) run where you perish on the 3rd floor (it happens frequently, too) and you lose a sword or other item you've spent the previous 80 runs building up is an infuriating experience–it would be Wii-smashing episode w/o rescues so I'll just vote w/ my wallet and say that if Atlus wants my money, online rescues are not optional.

By: malek86

malek86 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:36:45 +0000

I never used a rescue in Shiren DS. I'd rather finish it myself.

.. wait, maybe that's why I never beat it.