Kingdom Hearts 3D Sold Over 180,000 Copies In The U.S. [Update]

By Ishaan . September 6, 2012 . 6:35pm

Update: Kingdom Hearts 3D actually sold over 200,000 copies in August. See this story for details.

 

New Super Mario Bros. 2 sold over 240,000 copies at retail in North America during the month of August, Nintendo have revealed.

 

The Nintendo 3DS game took the #2 spot on the NPD top-ten chart for the month. Nintendo, however, did not reveal sales figures for the download version of the game, which was released simultaneously with the retail version.

 

At #3 was Square Enix’s Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance, also for the Nintendo 3DS. This game, Nintendo say, sold over 180,000 copies. This figure does not include sales of the “Mark of Mastery” edition of the game.

 

For the sake of comparison, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, which was released for the PSP in 2010, sold 225,000 copies in its first month.


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  • XYZ_JolteonZ980

    Odd reason considering they advertised I thought the fact that it has all those things to help new comers catch up to speed, like me.

    Even more odd to use the PSP userbase reason considering the state of the psp platform, I cant imagine it was all that better during bbs time than now.

    Anyway I guess it should sell well as more 3DS come and word of mouth spreads as it is the best kingdom hearts to date with the gloryy of twewy.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      The PSP userbase argument could go either way. One the one hand, the user base was far higher, but on the other hand, there was the piracy situation. 

      However, certain games are resistant to piracy. This generally tends to be the case with more popular titles. Those are less affected by piracy than niche games are, so again, the user base argument could be entirely valid.

      • SantiagodelosSantos

        I remember a guy i knew who tried to pirate the game and said it was extremely difficult, alongside other KH games like 358/2 days. There was a crack that needed to be applied to it and that crack didn’t come out for weeks. It was so difficult he had to give up and just bought the game.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1507813163 Miguel Marfori

      :D ”
      as it is the best kingdom hearts to date with the gloryy of twewy.”
      Tashika ni! I agree with you right there.

      Seriously, just seeing the worlds in this game make me say it is the best. Nomura-sama FINALLY nailed the exploration elements for KH really well here. I thought BBS and the other KH portables would have KH3D skimp down on level design but the moment I saw Traverse Town feel like a “town”… and the other worlds too… I knew it was already one of the best KH to date. With TWEWY too! Love the integration of the story to KH’s canon. SWEET! 

  • SantiagodelosSantos

    I heard a lot of people saying that they didn’t want to buy it because they want KH 3. Which is kind of dumb seeing as the events in KH 3D are pretty important and they lead straight into KH 3 (it even names kh 3 by name in the ending). The game was great, and the collectors edition probably sold a lot seeing as it was sold out everywhere months before the game came out, so maybe that boosted the income of the game. (the following is speculations) I also think the game cost less to make seeing as it reused a lot of assets from previous games and it apparently uses the same engine as BBS. I do hope Square is happy with the sales though, they did craft an excellent game.

    • Aoshi00

      Kinda regret I didn’t pre-order the Collector’s edition when Newegg had the $10 off deal (I figure games drop in price so fast, even special editions).. didn’t realize it would pre-sold out everywhere so fast.. when some more copies were up again on Amz later, there were sold out again quick..  KH 3D has been on sale for $30 last week though, from BB and Amz.. maybe that boost the sales too.. definitely a nice game to play on the XL :)

  • Herok♞

    I think what some of it was is the PSP had a bundle with BBS if you didn’t have a PSP yet, so everyone interested could play it, but I still think it did well.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      So it did! Added to the list. :)

  • Paradox me

    I think it’s a pretty respectable number to be honest. 

    The PSP was nearly six years old by the time Birth by Sleep hit North America and according to Wikipedia it had sold around 17 million units in the United States as of March 2010. Even if 2/3 of the userbase were pirates, you’d still have a comparable pool of legitimate customers.

    Dream Drop Distance was also unfortunate enough to release on a Nintendo platform, which by this time were well known for getting the ‘lesser’ Kingdom Hearts titles. People frequently referred to Birth by Sleep as a spin-off, but the number of folks that hadn’t even looked into KH3D and jumped to that conclusion was staggering.

    • kupomogli

      Yeah….  I think you must have misread, because it states that as of November 2010 Birth By Sleep sold 1.27 million.  That means less than two million. 

      Considering the game launched with 500,000 sales on day one in Japan and most of the sales came from Japan there after, 800,000 in February 2010, that means it took nine more months with all regions combined to sell another 400,000 copies.  At this time, the game is sitting at 1.90 million.

      • Paradox me

        I’m not sure I follow. Are you disputing the 17 million figure? Because that was in reference to the PSP’s install base in the United States around the time of Birth by Sleep’s release, not the game’s sales.

        • kupomogli

          Oh, okay.  Even then.  17 million PSP units in the US at the time and only 500,000 sales is a very small number.  

          The original Uncharted was released in late 2007 with the worldwide sales at the end of the 2007 fiscal year at 13 million.  A little over three million in the US I think.  The original Uncharted has sold 2 million in the US alone, and this is an original IP compared to Kingdom Hearts which already has a dedicated fanbase.

          This means that almost every other person who owned a PS3 at the time “probably” owned Uncharted.  I say probably because once a game is there for a month, the sales numbers drop significantly and anything after that really doesn’t change how many were actually sold.

          Siliconera even had that one news post only a few months after Dissidia’s release which showed a group that pulled how many copies were downloaded.  Five million “at that time” in comparison to the two million world wide.

          If you think of how many copies of Kingdom Hearts was downloaded since every PSP, even the Go is easily hacked without doing anything but downloading a file and placing it on your PSP(no going through the trouble you had to back then to do so) then no, the amount of sales the game has made, 500,000 is not a lot.  Not at all.
           

    • XypherCode

      I think KH3D really suits the 3DS well. Having playd BBS a number of times, I can proudly say DDD is a better game in terms of game mechanics and control scheme and such and even adding that 3D effect to the game.

      But like you said, people already has this mindset of having Kingdom Hearts games on Nintendo platforms being “inferior” compared to, let’s say BBS that has a “superior” platform and that’s a shame.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1507813163 Miguel Marfori

    [VG charts :p ]

    And hey, I’ve been playing KH3D every day since I got it (well there were days I didn’t play it) but now, I find myself putting in at least 40-60 minutes of good ol’ KH.

    • http://simplephilistine.wordpress.com/ Arla

       VGC has been repeatedly discredited.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Ojsinnerz Firo_Prochainezo

      VGchartz is nowhere near accurate. They make up numbers.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1507813163 Miguel Marfori

        Ohhhh… I see. All right, guess VGChartz is something I’ll stay away from in the near future. All right, thanks for the tip.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/S343QMWSKXR7LCEC5HN2WAUR3I Leah

    I’m happy for Kingdom Hearts 3D! It’s a fantastic game, easily one of the 3DS’s best!

    Plus, think of KH3D’s success this way: the more people play KH3D, the more people might know about TWEWY, eh? ;D

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    Not really a shocker there I think the only one that sold poorly was recoded right?

  • revenent hell

    The PSP had been out a  number of years  befor BBS was released by then the majority of people probably owned one unlike KH3d being released so soon in the 3DS’ life.
    For me personally I love the KH series but I wont lie im just more than a little tired of how long this story has dragged on for by now im ready for a its new saga……and my personal hope is the game gets more orriginal created worlds and charecters and the disney ones get confined to theirs.Im not attempting to bash the disney side but I think they do a very good job of creating worlds and charecters that id be more im eager to play a KH game with worlds and charecters not based entirely off of disney ones. I agree BBS probably did as well as it did was because of the new set of charecters even if the story was essentially “the same” it felt different since the player wasnt playing as the same charecters they have been the entire series.

  • kylehyde

    Considering all these factors I think that the game did it well enough, I hope that it continued to sell on the long term.

    Edit: some guy in neogaf called cream sugar is saying that numbers provided by nintendo didn’t include the sales of the mark of mastery edition and the those sales would put KHDDD above the 200k, I don’t know how trustable is this information (personlly I’m taking this with a grain of salt) but it appears that many persons trust so much in his/her data.

  • Mrgrgr and Unacceptable World

    Hmm KH sold not as much as i thought here even though the game is hell of fun there and its release date should not have so much competition other than Mario there.

    Brand fatigue is probably one of the major issues that strick KH franchise there(even though almost all their release is quality title there.T_T) and probably also the fact that portable consoles does not did as well Japan there.T_T

  • d19xx

    The amazing thing about BBS is that it shows that PSP owners outside Japan actually buys games. 

    But western developers/publishers just settled with the piracy angle so they don’t have to face the fact that their crappy ports and lack of advertising is what killed the sales of their PSP titles…

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Not quite. Popular titles tend to be far more resistant to piracy than the kinds of games that are released on PSP these days. Or even back in 2010, for that matter. Of course, now the piracy situation is much worse, too.

  • http://twitter.com/AnthonyFoster5 Anthony Foster

    The KH series needs a reboot. The plot has become so convoluted that only the most die-hard fans have even the slightest chance of understanding it anymore without having to read compressed synopsis online.

    • XypherCode

      No just no. Even if the story and plot presents itself to be a bit complex, that actually makes the game what it is and at least for me I really enjoy that. For the newcomers for the series, I think it’s best if SE released a HD collection of sorts. That would be better. But that’s just me :P

    • Curan_Altea

      I’m pretty sure they’ve said that Kingdom Hearts 3 will wrap up the Xehanort saga, but they won’t stop with Kingdom Hearts games there. Just ones set in the current story-line. 

    • Paradox me

      Now is possibly the worst timing for a reboot. 

      Birth by Sleep did an excellent job of providing context and explaining why the events of the series are even happening, and then Dream Drop Distance brought everything together, outlining a clear direction for the conclusion of the Xehanort Saga (i.e. Kingdom Hearts III, the supposed next entry in the series).

      Anything after Kingdom Hearts III will most likely be tantamount to a reboot anyway, as Xehanort will be gone and they’ll probably start fresh with an entirely new cast.

      • malek86

        Doesn’t that mean we could be looking at relatively low sales for KH3? I know everyone clamors for it, but one thing I’ve learned is that internet fans can make a lot of smoke with little meat. At least, I’m certainly not expecting numbers up to the first two games.

        • Paradox me

          I imagine they’ll be lower than the original, but it might reach Kingdom Hearts II sales. It really depend on how the next generation plays out and whether or not it ends up going multiplatform.

          Interestingly, Kingdom Hearts II’s North American sales had dropped significantly compared to the original, down nearly 1.5m units, where as Japanese sales were pretty consistent (though I don’t know about Final Mix releases). 

          It’s one of few Square properties I know of that sold better in NA than Japan. Of course, the series has performed better in Japan since moving to handhelds, and so it’ll be very interesting to see how people react when it moves back.

          One thing that I do think will help the game out is the fact that it’ll be the big conclusion. Without spoiling anything, we’re looking at the biggest Kingdom Hearts ever. Just about every character in the series, Kingdom Hearts and Disney alike, should be represented in some significant way. Everyone’s favorites will be here and all of their stories should be coming to an end. Whether they were into SRK, TAV or RAX, they’ll probably be less inclined to skip it like some may have done with 358/2 Days, BbS or DDD.

          Bringing Final Fantasy back into the limelight and marketing that aggressively would also probably do wonders for sales.

    • FFmax

      No way, the story isn’t even that hard to follow. Just play the first two games and you’re up to speed, and you can always watch a let’s play of BBS and ReChain of Memories on youtube or something.

      • Paradox me

        Just play the first two games and you’re up to speed

        Say whaaaat? Kingdom Hearts hardly even has a plot without Birth by Sleep, and to a lesser extent DDD. :P

        • FFmax

          I know BBS has the most important plotline but not many people have PSPs and you can’t download it either. I don’t mind UMDs but a lot of people hate the loading times. It’s a bit easier to watch a video instead if you don’t have the systems to play the handheld games.(thankfully I have both)

    • Mrgrgr and Unacceptable World

      People nowadays seems to think that reboot is solution for everything there.T_T

      • OatMatadoQuatro

        KH3D even has an option that tells you the plot of previous games in two paragraphs

    • Anime10121

       Speak for yourself, the plot is not hard to understand at all, as long as you’ve played the games.  I’ll never get how people could ever say its convoluted, its just a connected tale that spans several games.  Its like reading Harry Potter and skipping books in the middle and expecting to still understand everything, it CANT happen if you dont play the games.  I understand everything perfectly and I’ve never read “compressed synopsis online”.

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      Or you just suck at figuring out the story.

  • kupomogli

    nevermind

  • Heartless ㅤ

    Release a KH on a proper console and then count the sales. 

    Looking at you, KH3.  

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

       So, by your definition, handhelds, or the 3DS in this case is not a “proper console”?

      I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make any sense.

      • Aara_Malik_Davoodi

         Really? That doesn’t make sense? You don’t see a difference between consoles and handhelds?

        • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

           Off course I do, but not a difference that lets me point out which one is a “proper console”.

          Different systems with different gaming experiences. I don’t think one stands tall over the other.

  • malek86

    Even with the 3DS’s still smaller userbase, selling less than a PSP game in 2010 in the west can be generally considered bad news. That said, I remember 358/2 didn’t do much better either, so I guess it’s not a platform problem, it’s the series.

    I don’t necessarily think a reboot is needed, but  it’s true that the series has become very unwelcoming for non-fans. I didn’t play any game after COM, so I see KH3D and think “why should I bother picking it up if I’m not gonna get most of the story anyway?”.

    • Paradox me

      To be honest, the series really didn’t have much of a story to begin with. I can understand why some folks would wanna follow it (after all, I do), but I don’t see it being the key to mainstream success.

      I think sales simply reflect the move to handhelds as well as the age of the series, perhaps indicating that the allure of Final Fantasy x Disney has worn off to a great extent.

      Without some drastic changes, they’ll probably have trouble trying to maintain it as a flasgship franchise post-Kingdom Hearts III.

  • SirRichard

    I think it’s the 3DS being relatively new (it’s only just picking up steam now, really)and just either some form of series fatigue or people not being willing to jump to yet another console for a new game. The same reasons for why it didn’t perform so well in Japan, essentially.

    The big one is probably the series refusing to stick to one platform; the fanbase largely hasn’t caught up and might even just not bother, especially in these times of money being tight.

  • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

    Impressive numbers! It definitely wasn’t anything stellar, but it was enough to get this game a bronze medal in August.

    Sales in EU weren’t so strong perhaps, knowing SE didn’t translate this game to spanish and italian…Nintendo of Spain refused to publish the game in Spain, SE themselves had to do it, and I’m pretty sure that lead to a decline in sales, both in spain and in italy, which are two great regions.

    Sucks there’s no chart like this for Europe, but it’s understandable. The only thing we have is VGChartz, and we all know how bad these guys are with their made up numbers, so…

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    There will be an update to this story later today.

  • kevinposta

    Those are pretty low numbers compared to what KH usually does… But it’s to be expected given how they’ve promoted this game.
    I wasn’t even interested in this game until AFTER it was released because Re:Coded was just out, this looked like a KH1 rehash and the entire battle system looked like a BBS clone.
    However, it did a lot more than that in the end. But I believe first impressions really killed the game for many.

  • Roses4Aria

    As a major KH fan from the very first game, even I have to admit that I’ve gotten more than a tad impatient at what seems like a neverending plethora of “sideshot”  games that really add very little to the storyline.  I love the series overall, but more recent games like 358/2 Days and RE:Coded haven’t impressed me much. (I did like BBS, but that’s probably because it added a great deal that seems like it will be important to the future of the game.)  Though it looks pretty enjoyable, I haven’t bought Dream Drop Distance because I don’t have the money to spend on a 3DS right now.

    And therein lies my biggest problem.  Sadly, I just don’t have the available funds that I used to have to spend on video gaming, and as a result I’ve had to be a lot more choosey about what I buy.  I simply can’t afford to keep up with each and every title they slap KH on anymore.  And I suspect there are a lot of people out there who are in the same boat I am.  I’d much rather save my money for something like…oh, I don’t know.  KH3? :)

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      Sad for you sir, Dream Drop Distance is the Chain of Memories to KHIII.

      Although yeah, 358/2 days it’s kinda relevant and Re.Coded it isn’t that much relevant, the gameplay was awesome though.

      • Roses4Aria

        Yeah, I kind of figured that from what I’ve seen of the game.  Like I said, not buying Dream Drop Distance stems more from not having the money for a 3DS than not wanting to play it.  It actually looks pretty good.

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

          Well… not need to rush right? KH III will take some time before it’s done, Nomura confirmed that they will work on it once they are done with Versus and THAT will take a good while.

          So yeah, wait up until you get some money and the 3ds gets a catalog of games that might convince you to get one, just sayin!

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