The Phantom Pain Is Metal Gear Solid V [Update]

By Ishaan . March 27, 2013 . 11:13am

Update 2: Trailer available for viewing.


The Phantom Pain is indeed Metal Gear Solid V, Kojima Productions revealed at a keynote by Hideo Kojima at the Game Developers Conference this morning.


The Phantom Pain is an open-world game and together with Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, forms Metal Gear Solid V, Kojima Productions said. It appears that Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain are the same game.


The game starts out with Snake waking up after being in a coma for nine years and he has to escape the hospital he’s in. This sequence forms the game’s tutorial.


Update: Metal Gear Solid V (which is Ground Zeroes + The Phantom Pain) is in development for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but the game is currently running on PC.


  • imaguni

    Act surprised!

  • Masa

    Open world, lots of games taking that path lately.

    • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

      And I’m guessing there will be many, many more to come. And really, why not, especially when you now have a heck of a lot more processing power to work with.

  • Watching it live right now and it looks amazing!

    • JustThisOne

      Good god. Just watching them play with textures and models… eeeep! <3! In fact, it's a whole <3 and a half.

      EDIT: They are *really* going into the details with all these. Check out dat lighting!

  • Go2hell66

    Lol watching the stream now, so much craziness!

  • Oh, look. A new clone. I wonder if it has Solid Snake’s memories.

  • C_Diamond

    So.. naked snake again?

    • KingGunblader

      I thought they already confirmed that this game is part of the prequel series?

      • C_Diamond

        Only ground zero was the prequel right? Or is MGS5 and ground zero the same thing?

        • Solomon_Kano

          The way it’s been said so far isn’t exactly clear, but Kojima’s said in the past that Ground Zeroes is the prologue to MGS5. So… the way I’m taking it is that they’re one game, but the prologue segment of MGS5 is called Ground Zeroes while the game on the whole is called MGSV: The Phantom Pain.

  • Vesperion

    Finally….but, more old snake?

  • Anime10121

    No David Hayter :( Gonna be hard to adjust to new Snake, as David Hayter IS Snake :(

    Game is looking good though!

    • Curan_Altea

      The man needs a rest. That role left him forever changed.
      He was fantastic though.

    • Z3

      He didn’t even move his mouth at the end, I’m pretty sure its Miller who was talking

    • KingGunblader

      It’s like the time they rebooted Nightmare on Elm Street and didn’t have Robert Englund.

  • Mister_Nep


  • KingGunblader

    Well Kojima-san, you got us again. You’re the man.

  • Joy Omar

    love it

  • Guest

    Kojima: My surprise…DIDJU RIKE IT?

    • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus


  • Shadowman

    So it’s Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain or just The Phantom Pain

    • JustThisOne

      Metal Gear Phantom. *__*
      MGS: Phantom Zeroes.
      Phantom Gear Solid.

      • Zero Pain: Rising of the Reveangence.

  • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

    Not much of a surprise but it was fun to watch the PR spectacle over the past few months. Well played, Kojima. Well played.

  • Eliézer Dos Santos

    “Currently running on PC.” You won’t get me this time, Konami.

  • SirRichard

    They were both the same game, one is just the tutorial for the other part. Well played, Kojima.

    That entire trailer was amazing in absolutely every way, I cannot wait for this game. I can’t.

  • Solomon_Kano

    I’d originally said that TPP would be GZ, but I didn’t ever think to put them together to make MGS5. Which makes perfect sense, when one considers Kojima said GZ would be the prologue to MGS5. Huh.

    Also, it’s not Hayter, but I like Big Boss’ new voice. I mean, it had to change at some point. It’s not like he and Snake had the same voice in MGS4, so it was only a matter of time.

  • capristrider

    Snake is back, but which Snake? Or maybe this Snake is a new clone….

  • Has anyone else found the presentation regarding the game very educational? I thought the explanation on gathering assets and lighting effects were cool…especially the sending someone to roll around in the mud for assets part.

    • Go2hell66

      not really, pretty sure most people had no idea wtf they were talking about :p

      • I thought it was, or at the very least informative about the different techniques they are using to develop the game. Talking about the technical prospects of game development isn’t always going to be the most exciting thing to learn about, but at the very least it gives you an idea of what is being done. That, and having an open mind to learn and to be inquisitive helps too.

  • SunOatBoatMatadorQuattro

    How many times has Big Boss been in a coma? Not even Homer Simpson went through this.

    • Ferrick

      not as much as marvel’s green goblin getting amnesia XD

      • Solomon_Kano

        Osborn loses his memory far too often lol.

        • Ferrick

          another day, another amnesia strike for Norman Osborn, i think its getting ridiculous after the 2nd one XD

  • kmantle

    And Bruce Wayne is Batman

    • SunOatBoatMatadorQuattro

      Hahaha! Don’t say nonsense! Every night Batman fights the crime, Bruce Wayne goes to a party in another city.

  • Heartek

    I could be mistaking, but this could be less of a retcon than it seems. In the MSX games there were rumors of him having lost one or more limbs. Also, this can be read in Metal Gear Wiki : “In 1972, while Big Boss fell into a coma from being gravely wounded from
    a battle, Zero brought his unconscious body to a lab where his genes
    were extracted to make genetically enhanced soldiers. Solid Snake,
    Liquid Snake, and Solidus Snake were produced in this program, and were
    known as the “Sons of Big Boss.””

  • Solomon_Kano

    From Kojima’s Twitter:

    “Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes is a prologue of Metal Gear Solid V. Nine years after that event will be The Phantom Pain. Metal Gear Solid V is constructed with a prologue [Ground Zeroes] and the main game The Phantom Pain. The gameplay demo I presented today is the opening of The Phantom Pain, which is a tutorial that starts from crawling.”

    • So Ground Zeroes is not a full game and is just a little part of the story for MGS5 The Phantom Pain?

      • Solomon_Kano


        Everything you see there and the part in the new trailer where Big Boss evacuates Mother Base is Ground Zeroes, the game’s opening chapter. The whole story is MGS5: The Phantom Pain.

        • Makes sense, it did seem weird that he would be working on GZ and 5 if they were not the same game. Why is he escaping Mother base I thought that was where Outer Heaven was set up? Does it make sense if I play/watch MGS1,2,4? Since I have gone through the others now.

          • Solomon_Kano

            1, 2, and 4 won’t help you at all, since this is still set before them. This takes place some time after PW and before MGS1.

            In the GZ trailer Kaz says they’ve been set up for a UN inspection of Mother Base. This trailer features events after that, and it looks like Mother Base gets attacked some time after Big Boss returns. As for why? I guess we’ll find out when we play the game. That’s all I could piece together from the trailers.

          • SunOatBoatMatadorQuattro

            There is a war between FOX and XOF but didn’t Big Boss abandon FOX years ago? If he returns he will be used by Zero again.

          • Solomon_Kano

            More than that, Zero disbanded FOX. I believe the trailer’s referring to MSF, since their uniforms still carry the FOX patch on one arm. XOF somehow staged the assault on Mother Base and now it’s going to be a war between them and MSF. XOF is stated to be affiliated with The Patriots in the original GZ trailer, so it’s going to be Big Boss against Zero in The Phantom Pain.

          • After PW and before MG but ok. xD And I see… I am still trying to piece everything together and it is still weird to me that Big Boss is evil.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Right, right. Before MG as well.

            The thing about Big Boss being evil is that it’s a matter of perspective. Throughout 3, PO, and PW we learn his motivation and rationale. He’s not out to be evil for the sake of it, but his goals are at odds with what’s considered “right”. If Kojima carries this all the way up to a remake of MG1 and 2, that should make things much more interesting when he fights Snake than the first go for most people now that his actions have context.

          • He tries to kill Snake using not one but two metal gear. He also caught Gray Fox. That seems evil no matter how you look at it.

          • Solomon_Kano

            That’s after Snake busted into his “home”. It’s standard to want to get rid of an intruder. If you break into somebody’s house, expect consequences haha. That’s not exactly evil.

            As for Gray Fox, he’s to one who originally saved him. He sets him up at an orphanage, but that ends up being Patriots-run and he gets experimented on.

          • Wasn’t Big Boss his CO though? Asking him to go there? Maybe I am just being stupid. xD As for Gray Fox… isn’t that a spoiler for one of the MGS games? That wasn’t said in MG or 2.

          • Solomon_Kano

            No. It’s not a detail that occurs in the story of any of the games, it’s from a line of dialog. In the sense that you wouldn’t have known it yet, yes, but it’s not something that actively occurs in any of the games.

            As for MG, my memory of it is hazy after having played it ages ago, but yes Big Boss was his CO. If I recall, he orders Snake to go because he intends to have him captured and send him back to his superiors with misinformation. He attempts to kill Snake once Snake evades capture.

          • I see… well it doesn’t really bother me much. xD And yes I think that is true. Which makes him more evil imo. Why would he have him come there at all if he didn’t want Solid there?

          • Solomon_Kano

            Well, the original idea was to send him back with bad info so the US would leave him alone. To facilitate that, he picked an agent he was familiar with. He didn’t send him with the intent to kill him, but at some point Snake knew too much. Loose ends are a bad thing when you’re trying to keep a secret lol.

          • Ah! Ok that makes sense. It still doesn’t justify killing somebody but it does make more sense. Thank you.

          • Solomon_Kano

            I can’t honestly say anything justifies killing to me, but his reasoning is at least sensible. The US getting into it would jeopardize his larger plan to defeat the Patriots, so he had to stop the one person who knew too much. He wanted to take him in peaceably, but Snake was too good for that. The choice between killing Snake or losing his fight against the Patriots… well, there’s that saying about the needs of the many.

          • Erm… I still can’t say it justifies it. But I do as I said see how it makes sense.

  • Edzo04

    oh my god! i cant believe the phantom pain was actually mgs5! total shocker.

  • Just Tim

    Of course, as usual, MGS profits will fund BEMANI projects. Take note, ungrateful IIDX US fanbase: the ONLY reason why beatmania US got a release was because of MGS profits, yet you complained about it, to the point Konami Japan took note not to release any titles until further notice; in other words, that release was nothing more than a test to you guys and you guys had the gall to complain about DDR, getting worldwide releases and celebrated about Midnite Blaze, a song that NEVER showed up in IIDX, getting deleted off arcade DDR?

    With the above out of the way, I’m glad MGS V would provide the usual overall financial stability for Konami, as expected.

    PS: Thank you, MGS fans, for giving funds to DDR and other BEMANI games; without you all, Konami Japan won’t be able to afford the license fees from AVEX, the lion’s share source of all the licensed songs in IIDX.


    Lifelong DDR player

    • Solomon_Kano


      • Just Tim

        #1. I still remember reading years ago that MGS has its own section in Konami Japan’s annual financial report. Hence my sincerest thanks to the MGS fanbase, on a financial point of view.

        #2. Most of the IIDX fans I run into both online and real life strike me as condescending and possessing a high and almighty attitude, as most of them act like Konami Japan owes them something…

        • Solomon_Kano

          Oh okay. Yea, I remember hearing that as well. This seems like an odd place to give your thanks though.

        • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

          They still make Beatmania games?

  • CirnoLakes

    HAH! I knew it.

    Kojima. You so crazy.

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