Demon Negotiation Is Both Interesting And Hilarious In Shin Megami Tensei IV

By Laura . July 15, 2013 . 12:20pm

Recruiting demons is the best way to obtain fusion fodder, to put it bluntly. As always, in Shin Megami Tensei IV, this is done by talking to them.


Talking to demons is actually one of Burrough’s Apps, so the options associated with this function can be expanded upon. The primary purpose of talking to demons is to ask them to ally with you. Demon scouting makes you jump through hoops, attempting to answer the bizarre questions the demons toss at you and giving them whatever they want, in the hopes that they’ll join your team.


The demons in Shin Megami Tensei IV are all rather unique. I love how each demon type has its own voice and personality. The answers to their questions also seem to fit their personalities, although every individual demon seems to prefer different answers, which is an interesting twist. Sometimes, one demon of a species will want one answer, while another will be looking for something else. This makes negotiation difficult sometimes.


Other times, trick questions will pop up. One of these, for example, is, “Who’s stronger, Demons or Humans?” All three answers will be “Demons.” If the demon likes this answer, then you’re lucky. If they don’t, then you’ll just have to try again because… well, you don’t have much choice, do you?


There is some trick to giving items, HP, MP, and money to demons while recruiting them, though. For example, it appears that Femme demons won’t join you if you’re too complacent and give them everything they want. Sometimes, you can also cheat demons of the items you owe them and they’ll still be satisfied.


If your negotiation succeeds, the demon becomes your ally, provided you have room and you are of sufficient level. If you are not of level, the demon may summon a lower-level “friend” to join you instead. Sometimes the demons will say “I will join you later,” but in this game, that just means “Too bad, try again later.”


There are a few lucky instances where a demon will join you of its own volition, too. This may happen if you kill all other members of its party so brutally that you scared the living wits out of it. Alternatively, they could just love the response or answer you gave them so much that they want to join you.


If the negotiation fails, then they’ll just leave—if you’re lucky. Other times, the failure may also count as a “missed attack,” in which case two Press Turn icons are eaten up. If the demon becomes angry, then you’ve wasted your entire turn and they attack immediately. Luckily, damage control for this can be done because apparently demons don’t mind if you attack them a bit, so culling down their numbers first helps a lot.


If you choose to upgrade your demon negotiation App, you can also talk to demons that speak in tongues or you can unlock other options. One of these is Fundraise, which involves you throwing yourself at the demon and begging him for money. This is actually pretty hilarious because the demons are so intimidated by you they just start throwing Macca at you so you’ll stop. Every time you do this, you are given the choice to continue or to stop. If you continue, there’s a chance the demon will get angry, at which point they attack. If you stop, you keep the Macca and your turn continues as usual. The Macca you earn from this is handy at the start of the game, but is much less than you get from selling relics later on.


You can also choose to unlock an option that allows you to negotiate a ceasefire, which may be handy later in the game when you accidentally wander into an area with demons several levels higher than you.


Finally, sometimes demons will give you quests when you talk to them. These quests are fairly hard to find and are pretty difficult to complete, but defeating the demon boss often unlocks the demon for fusion.


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  • Chris Yuen

    It’s the 16th of July here in Singapore..time now is currently 3:29AM. 8 hours and 30 minutes more till the store that I pre-ordered my NA LE from open their doors for business…can’t wait.

  • Bur

    Why do you do this to my heart.

  • Niyari

    can’t wait to offer some macca and lifestones to demons then have them run away like asshats

    • *shakes fists at such demons*

      i.e., *shakes fist at 90% of all demons*

    • IshimaruKaito

      lol i hate that!!

    • Shane Guidaboni

      “Can you spare a Lifestone?” *gives* “JUST KIDDING! PREPARE TO DIE!”

  • JustThisOne

    Demon negotiation has always been the cutest thing to me. :> They can be so funny! And while Persona isn’t SMT, I think my favorite moment is having Tatsuya approach a demon by making motorcycle noises. You’d be surprised at how many of them are interested!

    • kmantle

      From both ‘Revelations: Persona’ and ‘SMT: Persona’
      “Mark danced crazy!”

  • Just Tim

    Having Strange Journey as my gateway to SMT, I find the expanded negotiations for IV expansive.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    I have to wait til Friday… thanx amazon……

    • Ferrick

      so i guess its true… Amazon will deliver justice in 3 to 5 business days or 2 days if you're willing to cough up more macca

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        I pre ordered back in april XD

        • Ferrick

          same XD, i’m getting it tomorrow, maybe its because i have amazon prime ?

          i think its best if you contact amazon, who knows, they might just bump up your status to day 1 shipping, that’s what i did for VLR

          • ShawnOtakuSomething

            darn maybe I should get Prime…..

          • I know this is probably not likely, but in case you didn’t know…if you’re a college student, you’re eligible for Amazon Student. You need a .edu e-mail address, but I qualify for six months of free 2-day shipping and am getting the game tomorrow as a result.

          • celery

            Thank you for this. You are a great person.

          • Ahh, if it helps you, then I’m just happy to spread the word! :)

      • Zeik56

        I changed my order several times since I placed it, going back and forth between 2 day shipping and not. I ended up caving for the 2 day shipping just the other day.

    • Shane Guidaboni

      Thanks Obama.

  • Dragon of the Lake? Are they going for literal translations for that crew now?

    • Teddy

      It’s part of a quest.

      • Good. Don’t want Revelations again with longer words after all.

  • shuyai

    after playing devil survivor and persona series i have to say i am getting kinda sick of the demon design and skill as it is being reuse every game. Hopefully when persona 5 comes out we will have redesign demon in 3D and new skills

    • Zeik56

      I can understand the issue about the demon designs to an extent (even if I don’t entirely agree), but why would they replace the skills? Agi, Bufu, Dia, etc are as synonymous with MegaTen as Fira, Blizzara, and Cura are with Final Fantasy. Why would you change them just for the sake of changing them? It’s not like they don’t regularly add new skills.

    • Mr_SP

      Nope. This game doesn’t sell as well as Pokemon does. There are only so many changes they can afford per game.

    • AndyLC

      Go play SMT: Nocturne or SMT: Digital Devil Saga then, that’s the game you’re looking for

  • Bunzi

    Yes! I loved that the game actually has demons occasionally beg for their lives – it really humanizes these things and I always feel awful about it if I don’t have room to invite them in Strange Journey. I was really taken aback by it when I made my first Angel crap his pants with fear, too.

  • Natalie Rath

    I am playing it now…. GOD THE DIFFICULTY. I can’t even even the first battle in Naraku. AND I JUST STARTED

  • natchu96

    That Fundraise option sounds hilarious . . . who’s the more dangerous race here, eh?

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