New PlayStation Vita 2000 Adjusts Button Pressures “Slightly”

By Eugene . September 11, 2013 . 11:31am

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In an interview with Dengeki after Monday’s Sony press conference in Japan, Sony’s Japan President Kawano Hiroshi told the magazine that as part of the revamp, the face buttons for the Vita 2000 have been changed “slightly”. The rounder buttons change the amount of pressure needed to depress them—something Kawano claimed customers had voiced concerns about with the original Vita.

 

While it’s been previously reported that some touch-based Vita games will be unplayable on Vita TV, Kawano also mentioned that it would be possible to remap such controls to the PlayStation Dualshock controllers for “some” titles, with official help on how to do so listed on websites in the future.

 

Kawano agreed, however, that not all titles will be playable in this way.

 

He also further clarified that the Vita TV is running on Vita’s chipset, and the concept for it came about from wanting to have more people enjoy the PlayStation’s backlog of Vita and PlayStation Portable titles while remaining cheap and affordable.


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  • Chris Yuen

    I still very much prefer the OLED screen though. Games look amazing on it.

    • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 水木

      Very much

  • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

    I’m glad to hear that they’ve clarified on how some touch-require games will be able to be remapped with some manual doing. Hoping this means that Disgaea 3 Vita won’t actually be excluded.

    Thinking on this, this might mean that all Vita games will load on the VitaTV– they might just not be fully playable as a result. I guess this is something people will be testing once it’s released.

    • César H. Sandoval

      I’m sure Dualshock4 patch support in the future will fix the VitaTV’s touch problems.

  • eilegz

    so ergonomics the new psv its better with bigger buttons and less weight, but the screen seems a downgrade for me…

    • http://denpanosekai.blogspot.com denpanosekai

      I know, I was holding out for this remodel, but I’m not sure if this was worth the wait after all.

      • abysswalker

        Same here. After the announcement I started seeing comments regarding the screen burn ins so I thought “OK vita 2000 for me” but after searching a little bit I couldn’t find cases of seriously damaged screens.
        Hopefully version 1000 drops price even a little -to justify the wait- when this launches.

        • wyrdwad

          Screen burn-in isn’t really a risk with the Vita since the screen shuts off if you leave the thing idle for even a minute or two. You’d have to actively TRY to burn an image onto your screen.

    • leingod

      The screen IS a downgrade, to keep things cheaper. I for one, am totally OK with that… gives us early adopters kind of an edge instead of just giving us the middle finger with the new model.

      • Scissors

        But it puts us Vita newcomers in a weird position.

        Go with original Vita which has best screen
        Vita TV which is cheaper, but doesn’t support all games
        Go with Vita 2.0 which has a bunch of nice improvements, but a less vibrant screen.

        I’m all for options, but this one is a real toss up. I want to go for Vita 2.0, but I don’t want an inferior screen. This just makes me want to wait till Vita 3.0 which will hopefully be an improvement on all fronts.

        • leingod

          Maybe you should get the regular one. Amidst the confusion caused by the Vita TV and 2.0, I bet the original will lower its price, even if it has a superior screen :P

        • mads

          for 3.0 i’m hopping for something like psp GO.. lol

      • Kai2591

        But didn’t they say the new LCD screen will be comparable to the OLED of the original Vita?
        Well, I’m no expert on screens and stuff, but by that statement, shouldn’t the quality be more or less the same then?

        • leingod

          Of course they’ll say that… but truth is, OLED screens are superior to LCD ones. OLED display more vibrant colors, and deeper darks (more contrast). The screen replacement was a way to lower manufacturing costs so they can sell ‘em new Vitas at a better price.

          • Kai2591

            I see. Thanks.
            Guess I’ll buy the original Vita then (when I do) :)

        • Radiosity

          See my comment further up this thread, posted an image some guy posted on twitter comparing the new one with his OLED one. It’s not pretty.

          Sure, Sony could potentially still improve it but if that’s final it’s definitely a big downgrade.

  • abysswalker

    I don’t understand how mapping the controls is going to help with the touch controls, vita already has the same layout of the DualShock 3 If we were talking about DualShock 4 the touch panel would be the solution but otherwise I don’t see it.

    • JuhRo

      The Vita is missing L3/R3 – clicking of the analogs-
      as well as L2 and R2. Controls can definitely be remapped to those functions.. especially for a game like Killzone Mercenary.

      • Pyrotek85

        Yeah it just depends on whether it’s a simple tap or something more complicated.

      • abysswalker

        I was thinking more in the line of “moving something with your finger” but I guess this is what draws the line just like @Pyrotek85 says simple tap mapped to aditional L’s or R’s and the rest of the games being the ones that won’t be compatible

        • Radiosity

          Ys Celceta has touch puzzles for certain doors (that were apparently just added so they could say they were using the touchscreen heh). You need to rotate blocks and put them in position to unlock the door. Simple enough to emulate by using the stick to move and rotate them.

          Just depends on the game really, some touch-heavy ones simply won’t work but mostly things should be ok ported to work on VitaTV.

  • Thrasher429

    So remapped buttons and an extra hour of battery life but at the cost of the OLED screen….lets face it this isn’t really what you should call a new PS Vita. With the downgrade from OLED to LCD it’s really more like a cheaper casual model and hopefully the price reflects that.

    • JuhRo

      You’re mixing up the two subjects of the article, I believe.

      • Thrasher429

        I am? I thought they had mentioned when announcing it that they modified the start and select buttons to make them easier to press.
        Edit: ahh I see I used poor choice of words in original post remapped isn’t what I meant. My bad XD

  • Dave_O_Segundo

    Huh… I find the dpad on the og vita really comfortable, although I agree that the four face buttons are kinda small, I feel that they have the right click to them. I think they are grasping for features to compensate the oled loss.

  • Shady Shariest

    All this fuzz about OLED being replaced with less problematic LCD… I will buy a Cheapita for its price… Too poor for fancy Öleds :/

    • TheExile285

      Cheapita? Oh man, I hope that doesn’t catch on :(

      • Shady Shariest

        I don’t think of it as a negative thing… It’s meant to be a cheaper more easy to reach machine :) … But i can see how it could be thought as a bad thing to say :3

      • JuhRo

        Took me reading it 5 times and saying it out loud once to figure out what it meant… so it won’t catch on..

        • Shady Shariest

          I made it kinda dumb and thought taking so that it wouldn’t stick… I AM a Vita-fanatic after all :3

    • leingod

      OLEDs are problematic? How so?

      • mixedfish

        Being Samsung panels, looks up any thread on first generation Samsung Galaxy phones with OLED and the same will be on the Vita.

        • leingod

          Oh. Well I haven’t had any issues with mine yet.

          • mixedfish

            You must not be looking close enough then, I’ve had my Vita since December 2011 and the screen shows obvious signs of typical OLED irregularities ranging from cold blue cast on the screen to black splotches.

            Not issues, simply Samsung’s bad quality control. I’ve got products that use Sony manufactured OLED and they show none of those characteristics.

          • leingod

            Well, maybe Sony doesn’t trust Samsung OLEDs anymore then :P

    • mirumu

      OLEDs do have their problems. Most I’ve seen have color tints that are off-putting to me including the ones on the Vita. I don’t know what the LCD on the new model Vita is, but an IPS panel could be an improvement in various ways.

      • Shady Shariest

        Well, the stock images we have seen on articles have been clear and precise enough for me… Also i dislike the little “Glow” that comes with OLED :3

        • JuhRo

          Blasphemy! Troll-opogus!

          Hahah.. on a serious note, the Glow gives the Vita an edge over 3D. It gives a life-like, yet ethereal, atmosphere to give a much more invigorating gaming experience. I’ve never felt about an FPS, well.. since Golden Eye or Socom(though, a TPS), the same way as Killzone Merc.. It’s such a simple game, but I believe the screen helps with that feeling of “Wow, this is new gen tech.”

          • Shady Shariest

            Heh, i would take something that has a lower chance of burning and/or causing problems over a slight improvement (Note, i have played the hell out of the Demo-machine nearest gamestore has)

            I love to read and experience new tech, but i would rather buy a version i can afford :3

            Edit: again, it is the fact that my eyes aren’t accustomed to it :) I would not wan’t to ruin every single LCD-device for myself after getting used to OLED’s :3

      • Radiosity

        https://twitter.com/Hiro_1998/status/377687488976142336/photo/1

        Comparison between the two. The new LCD is pretty bad.

        • Kai2591

          well that’s….a huge….difference….
          DEAR GOD NO.

          Should I buy the original Vita before they replace them all with this new version? or will will they still sell the original alongside this new version? hmmm…

          • Radiosity

            No idea. Personally I’d find the cheapest Vita you can and get one now though, that OLED really is a system seller and I wouldn’t personally want to downgrade to that LCD there.

          • Kai2591

            Thanks, I’ll think about it.

          • mads

            get the OLED vita… the blue, or red one looks awesome.. or white.. :)

        • Shady Shariest

          My god… Original it is!
          Edit: this must be a plot to get us all to buy originals from Sony :P

          • Radiosity

            It appears to be working! ;p

          • Shady Shariest

            “Nobody is buying the Vita! What should we do?”
            “…We scare them back… Or make them pay, any price necessary”
            “But sir…”
            “Downgrade… As much as it takes… Vita will LIVE!”

    • Kaitsu

      But when you think about those memory cards…

      • Shady Shariest

        I will warmly remember how i rarely download games for consoles :3

  • Demeanor

    The only buttons I have issues with on Vita are Start and Select… ugh… and they’re used fairly often in games! (e.g. minimap and scene fast fwd in P4G, main menu in Muramasa etc)

  • Mir Teiwaz

    The only thing I would have liked to have is BIGGER face buttons. Them things are tiny.

  • Brimfyre

    I just splurged and bought a Vita. The OLED sold me. I need crisp blacks. I can’t go with the inferior LED screen on the 2000.

    Only had it for a few hours and it is an impressive piece of tech.

    Like my PSP and DS before them, I imagine my 3DS will still see more gaming action, but damn this Vita is sexy. I love how easy it is to switch between games and apps.

    • Touma

      Another member of team vita! Wooooot! And i agree the ui (i think thats what you’d call it) is marvelously easy to use.

    • WhyWai

      will get a Vita-2000 if not bcos of the LCD screen.. OLED just much better, for gaming maybe..

      Now I so scare that one day my Vita-1000 dies and cannot find a new replacement…

    • WhyWai

      will get a Vita-2000 if not bcos of the LCD screen.. OLED just much better, for gaming maybe..

      Now I so scare that one day my Vita-1000 dies and cannot find a new replacement…

      • Brimfyre

        My BC Ps3 just died and faced the same predicament. Damn Sony and making their first versions of everything the best versions.

  • Tyler Beale

    I’ll be honest here: I don’t like either of the new Vita models announced. At all. I have a Vita, and having a Vita TV on the market means that devs can now code their games with that in mind. To me, that might result in the loss of that special something that makes the PS Vita so magical to play on.

    • TheExile285

      Well all it means IMO is less forced gimmicks. Honestly the back touch is pointless IMO. Tearway looks like it will use it well but I can’t think of anything else that has or will in the future. The front touch is nice for menus and other stuff but in general I feel like some devs try to go over board with the front and back touch mechanics *cough*Assassins Creed Liberation*cough* so less of the forced and mandatory stuff would be good IMO. I prefer games like Killzone or Ys Celceta which have these features but mostly make them optional.

      Reguardless, VTV is should mean more games being sold which will lead to more Vita games being made.

  • Kamakuma

    Honestly a Vita is a Vita no matter how you slice it or remodel it. It’s used to play games so that you can find entertainment heck even learn new information you’ve never known. Still I enjoy my original model but maybe will look into a VTV…

    I don’t know just seems a bit much for me. But anyhow glad we can all share our opinions freely. x’3

  • Raiger

    …i’ve just bought vita around last month and then seeing this news and vita TV ^^; maybe i’ll just buy vita TV or this if they were announced earlier … but oh well, …i already love what i get , quite satisfied already^^

  • ShadowDivz

    God i hope they release some sort of cable to play vita games on the TV.
    You know, like what the vita had?

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