Star Wars Expanded Universe Isn’t Part Of The Official Story Says Lucasfilm

By Ishaan . April 28, 2014 . 10:30am

All Star Wars videogames, comics, novels and other media aside from the six movies and the Clone Wars TV show are non-canonical, Lucasfilm said in a recently published statement. (Thanks, CVG)

 

 

For the uninitiated, being “non-canonical” means that none of the stories or character development in any Star Wars product outside of the movies and the Clone Wars show are to be considered part of the “official” Star Wars story. This would include popular products like the Knights of the Old Republic RPGs, the Jedi Knights games, and dozens of well-written novels that have helped expand the Star Wars universe over the years.

 

Now, Lucasfilm aren’t saying you can’t enjoy these products and the stories they tell—just that they will have no bearing on the Star Wars stories that are to come in the future. These products are being labelled part of the “Expanded Universe” of Star Wars, whereas all Star Wars products developed from here on out will be connected and part of the official story. Presumably, that includes the new Star Wars games being developed by EA with the help of Amy Hennig.

 

“We have an unprecedented slate of new Star Wars entertainment on the horizon,” said Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy. “We’re set to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, and continue the adventure through games, books, comics, and new formats that are just emerging. This future of interconnected storytelling will allow fans to explore this galaxy in deeper ways than ever before.”

 

Lucasfilm’s reasons for trimming the fat, so to speak, aren’t unreasonable. There’s been so much Star Wars media developed over the years that trying to keep track of it all and remain consistent would only hinder the creativity of future products. In the company’s defense, even Blizzard Entertainment have had to retcon certain aspects of the Diablo lore in order to accommodate Diablo III’s story, and that franchise hasn’t been around nearly as long as Star Wars has.

 

Also, Lucasfilm have pointed out that the Expanded Universe isn’t being discarded. While Star Wars Episodes VII-IX—the new trilogy—will not tell the same stories that the Expanded Universe tells after Return of the Jedi’s events, the creators of new Star Wars products will have “full access” to the Expanded Universe content. That means character like Jedi Knights’ Kyle Katarn may return yet, albeit in a different way.


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  • Kornelious

    Wow, Star Wars news on Siliconera, this day is just full of neat suprises!
    I guess this is ok, I mean I already felt like Star wars was getting a little crowded so knowing that only the main parts mean something makes it easier to follow the story :)
    On the Subject on the new trilogy though…………….Why? (Interpret that as you wish folks)

  • chibidw

    So Chewie is still alive?

    CHEWIE IS STILL ALIVE!

    • malek86

      It’s Disney, so I’m expecting a much more feel-good and lighthearted story than all the nonsense from the expanded universe.

      • Morningstar

        Hopefully they’ll save the Ewoks for an EU show on Disney Junior.

  • Ethan_Twain

    I was just talking about this with my brother the other day and I’ve gotta say: Good Riddance. The existing expanded universe had gotten WAY out of hand. So much of what’s there borders on fan fiction, yet the laissez faire management of the property meant that the quality Star Wars entertainment (I’ve heard the stuff about Admiral Thrawn is pretty good) was mixed in with a BUNCH of poorly written nonsense.

    Also he tried to explain to me that there’s a difference between “sith” and “dark Jedi”. It was at this point that I called him a nerd and walked away.

    • malek86

      That’s good enough. I bet most people were expecting to see The Heir to the Empire for an eventual sequel, but now anything could happen. And yes, most of the expanded universe is bordering ridiculousness.

      Though on my part, I kinda liked the possibility of Jedi Knight happening after the original trilogy. I wouldn’t mind seeing Nar Shadda in the new movies. That’s not gonna happen now, though. I wonder if they could still have cameos of some of the most famous characters.

      • Ethan_Twain

        When I was a kid I read the “X-Wing” series of books over and over again. I don’t think those were the most popular expanded universe works and definitely not the best (for the New Republic to recapture Corusant they… send in a squad of fighter pilots as commando spies who were only organized as a squad few months prior. Also, there’s a buried super star destroyer underground that nobody in the entire city ever noticed) but Wedge Antilles or Corran Horn got name checked in a new movie (I can’t believe I remember those names) I would probably geek out a bit.

        • Tran67

          To be fair though, Coruscant is pretty damn huge. It is theoretically possible to hide things without people noticing considering it’s just thousands upon thousands of layers of city-scape.

          And I hear the X-Wing series is actually one of the more popular EU series. I didn’t read it though. I read the Thrawn stuff and the Yuuzhan Vong.

          • Jeremy Barnes

            The Yuuzhan Vong stuff killed my enthusiasm for the EU.

        • malek86

          Wedge appears in two of the original movies, so it’s not that unlikely.

          • Morningstar

            On top of Square Enix always naming NPCs after him

          • Andhros

            Wedge is in all three. He helped Luke, then Lando destroy the Death Stars and he flew through the legs of an AT-AT on Hoth.

  • David García Abril

    So, this is basically Lucasfilm hitting the “Reboot” button on the “Star Wars” universe to let the Disney creatives run wild.

    Can’t say it surprises me. I always assumed this was bound to happen sooner or later.

    It has happened to pretty much every piece of long-running Western pop cultural media. Why would it be any different?

    • Morningstar

      Primarily because they aren’t wiping the slate clean like other attempts. and also because the canoncity of any part of the EU is..shaky at beats. To say the EU as a whole is canon would be impossible with some contrived alternate universe BS.

      BTW did you know Marvel did some Star Wars comics before the sequels came out. It’s kinda ironic that now Disney owns them both.

  • Hexodious

    “We’re set to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, and continue the adventure through *games*, books, comics, and new formats that are just emerging.”

    Games? Didn’t “Disney Waltz” put a stop to all incoming projects?

    This was the last thing I’ve read about Star Wars:

    “On April 3, 2013, it was announced that The Walt Disney Company had closed down LucasArts and ceased internal development of all their projects, including Star Wars 1313. Company representatives have indicated that the game may be revived through a licensing deal with an outside studio, but until then Star Wars 1313 remains on hold.”

    So, did I miss something regarding the matter, thus the games will continue as usually again?

    • Grape Monet

      Disney licensed the Star Wars games to EA. As a result, EA has confirmed that they have a number of Star Wars projects in the works from multiple studios, including DICE, who are working on a new Star Wars: Battlefront game.

    • Ben Sylvia

      The games will still come, just not the ones that were announced.

      And they’re apparently being made by EA so that should tell you everything you need to know about the quality and how much DLC it will have.

      Day 1 DLC to change your lightsaber color. XD $2 per color.

  • zzzSleeping

    I sense a shitstorm coming from all the EU fans.

  • Vash bane

    well in my defense I never read the comics. I’ve only seen the movies and animated series.

    but after reading the wiki about this (I read it last year sometime) I felt overwhelmed with all the stuff I read. lukes decadents luke wielding both powers of the force _I don’t remember but I do remember reading that he created a red saber or something)

    and I never understood whats the point of the sabers colors (I know it had something to do with ranks) does it like grants them powers? I also remember that it said red sabers are slightly stronger.

    I can go on and on but that would be boring (and long) lol

    but I do like star wars tho ….wouldn’t mind if luke’s son and starkiller become canon xp
    (also from what I read his son sounds badass)

  • James Enk

    we knew that for a while now i think and personally i think is for the best

  • Logan Moll

    This is a huge amount of bullshit. I’m positive this is because they want to make more movies, and they can’t be bothered learning all of the expanded story that they would need to stick to. I’d rather continue on with the extant EU stuff than dump it for these new movies. Blech.

    • doubleO7

      Its not like the EU is going away. We’ll still continue to get EU books/comic/games/etc, they just won’t necessarily be canon to the new movies.

    • Herok♞

      I am pretty sure the standing EU would likely contradict anything they try to do so it makes sense to be done with it.

    • DaiRaiOh

      It would be bullshit if EU still wasn’t there after this announcement. But it is. No part of this announcement will change anything about EU, past, present, and future, so honestly, who cares.

      • Logan Moll

        The problem is that the EU stuff that comes out after these movies come out will surely start trying to be in line with them. So we’ll have disjointed releases where some things follow the previous ‘canon’ and some things follow the new story. What I’m saying is, it will have a large effect on future releases.

  • Theob Vious Choice

    Old Ben McMickey: So Edwin Skywanker, do you want to go to the magic kingdom?
    Edwin Skywanker: YOU BET I DO! *grins awkwardly*
    Old Ben McMickey: Put Mickey Mouse ears on everything.
    *fapfapfapfap*

    Every Star Wars movie from now on.

  • http://psvitareviews.net/ Trent Berlinger

    So KOTOR is no longer canon? Booooooo

    • doubleO7

      It was never officially canon to begin with, none of the EU was. As long as it doesn’t conflict with any upcoming movies, they may acknowledge it as canon at some point.

      • http://blackstar2661.deviantart.com/ SilverSpades

        But-But-But I liked being Revan!

        • doubleO7

          I do too, that’s why I REALLY hope they eventually cherry-pick some non-conflicting EU material to consider canon, especially KOTOR.

  • doubleO7

    I’m not terribly surprised they’re doing this. It would be quite an undertaking to take all of the post-ROTJ content into account for the new movies. But on the positive side, it was confirmed that the creators/producers/directors/writers of all canon Star Wars content from here on out will have full-access to characters/events/etc from the EU trilogy, if they choose to use them.

    So while we may not see books like “Heir to the Empire” directly adapted into movies, this still leaves the doors open for the likes of some post-Episode 6 EU content, like say, the character of Thrawn, to at least be incorporated into the canon lore in some capacity, although they may need to change a few details.

    That could probably be applied to any content that doesn’t directly conflict with what happens in the upcoming movies as well, meaning stuff like KOTOR could be acknowledged as canon at some point, since it’s unlikely it will ever conflict with any forthcoming movies, given that its set thousands of years prior.

  • makubexnas
    • http://shadious.tumblr.com/ Vince

      The Force is strong in this one.

    • James Todd

      shit give me a helmet and a cape and you gotta deal

  • Brimfyre

    Glorified fanfic is no longer canon? Good riddance.

    The few good stories like KOTOR I imagine they have plans to rework into its own movie or show, which is fine. I always want to recommend KOTOR to people as the best SW story but the barrier of entry is way too high for non-gamers. If they can bring these stories to a wider audience then more power to them.

  • Wait what

    Lucas already said the Extended Universe wasn’t canon to his movies years and years ago. Why is everyone acting so shocked? I mean wasn’t that the whole point of it being an EXPANDED universe to begin with?

  • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

    Well, to be fair, Copyright Laws is Disney’s favorite weapon of choice. It’s basically the same as saying “The films and Clone Wars aren’t canon.” Good thing Star Wars is practically “Public Domain”, right?… right?

  • mikanko

    If only they could retcon the prequel trilogy and list that as non-canonical too!

    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

      This is the Lucasverse. Jar-Jar has an important role in all destinies of this Universe.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    I’m confused….I was under the impression that any products outside of the six movies have always been called Expanded Universe and have always been considered non-canon.

    Personally, I’m not a fan of retcons. Not only do they shatter whatever coherence and stability a fictional universe has, but it also usually indicates a blatant disregard and disrespect for the universe on the part of the creators as only someone who takes no responsibility for their work can feel the right to change whatever they feel like. This isn’t to say that there aren’t examples of well-handled retcons, but they’re extremely rare.

    Also, I wouldn’t consider bringing up Blizzard to be a good defence, considering Blizzard has been treating its own properties like crap in recent years.

    EDIT: Just for clarity, when I say “retcon”, I’m referring to changes that outright contradict previous events. For some odd reason, some people consider things that add to already established events without contradicting them to be retcons as well and I don’t know why.

    • Lynx

      The original Force Unleashed, iirc, had the whole marketing campaign about how it was canon and all that.

      I’ve always considered them separate myself because a fair few of the EU material out there is, I’d say, better than the movies themselves. There was quite a bit of horrible stuff too. Lucasfilm never really had much of a QC.

    • Göran Isacson

      I’m with this one. I’ve ALWAYS been under the impression that everything written in the books and comics and games and so on was considered non-canonical. I guess this statement comes out because they need to prepare the fans who didn’t get the message that such is indeed the case?

  • http://shadious.tumblr.com/ Vince

    “I find the retcons disturbing.”

  • Astrotrain

    I’m glad I’m not a Star Wars fan anymore.

  • Ngolem

    The canonicity of this stuff was always pretty fluid, almost as much as it’s quality. Star Wars has been dead to gaming for a long time besides.
    EAware didn’t think twice before taking a straight razor to the old republic era; honestly, a lot of the stuff released before the prequel films was just plain different, too…in tone, everything. Check out the depictions of jedi, sith, etc. in Dark Forces II compared the following decade. All of this has happened before and it’s probably just going to get worse so who cares

  • Tom

    I like this. I never understood how someone could write a novel connected to someone else’s story and “get away with it”. Though I like many Star Wars game it was a good idea to say they are non-canon. This gives a lot of freedom to creators. So the games that LucasArts made are non-canon as well?

    • doubleO7

      They could “get away with it” because they were officially sanctioned by Lucasfilm, if not by Lucas himself. Some of the novels were actually quite good, others… not so much.

      At this point, the only things considered canon are the 6 live-action films and the CG-animated “The Clone Wars” film and series.

      However, they can, and probably will, eventually cherry-pick existing games/comics/books that are unlikely to ever conflict with the upcoming movies and bring them into the official canon.

  • cameron forsyth

    well at least darth mauls return is cannon but what about the comic thats set to finish his story?

  • Chee Yang

    The EU is like filler episodes of an anime, sure some of them are good while others aren’t. It’s like we get a good story from DB/DBZ, and then GT shows up.

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