Nintendo Considering Two Kinds Of Metroid Games

By Ishaan . June 13, 2014 . 9:32am

Relax, Nintendo still loves Metroid. The company is still working on the series, reports Kotaku, who had a chance to speak with Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto and Shinya Takahashi.

 

“So it has been a while since we released the last one and we’re having discussions internally about what we can do next,” said Takahashi, who is now the general manager of Nintendo’s Software Planning & Development team, which previously reported to Satoru Iwata.

 

“So at this point we have two different types of Metroid games. We have the Prime style of Metroid game and we have the more traditional style of Metroid game,” Takahashi continued. “We feel that we do need to take care of both of these styles of play. And the hope is that at some point in the near future we’ll be able to share something about them.”

 

Takahashi goes on to say that he’s fond of both styles of Metroid, and that they both have a different kind of appeal.

 

Earlier in the year, Miyamoto stated that Retro Studios, who have been working on a new project since November, are “a very high priority in terms of the potential team that would be considered for working on a Metroid game”.


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  • 하세요

    I’m fine with both. The Primes are awesome and 2D ones are awesome.

  • hunterslasher13

    I wouldn’t mind if they were working on an HD port of the trilogy for Wii U. Never got a chance to play that trilogy.

  • evilmajikman

    If they do another 2D style Metroid, it needs to be HD sprites. Not this 2.5D stuff that we’ve been getting lately.

  • subsamuel01

    Metroid Prime style would fit better on a home console and a classic 2D Metro game would be perfect for the 3DS.

  • Spirit Macardi

    I just hope Other M’s performance didn’t deter them from focusing on story in them. I think it’s still worth exploring the potential in the universe and who Samus is as a character.

    I would say though that maybe they should find a different VA for her. When I imagine Samus speaking, I imagine someone like Tara Platt who’s capable of coming off extremely strong but also emotionally vulnerable.

    • Asura

      If they focus on story they better scrap the ENTIRE atrocity that was Other M.

      THE BABY.

      • Spirit Macardi

        Then you’d have the problem again of there being so many inconsistencies between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion. Like Ridley’s body being in cold storage, even though he was blown apart in Super Metroid.

        I honestly liked Other M myself, but it takes so many of its cues from the canon manga that never came to the US so I can understand why people would be confused by its portrayal of Samus.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Kaleido-Ruby

          Actually, Fusion’s Neo-Ridley is an X parasite mimicking the Ridley clone FROM Other M. The links mentioned in the game back this up.

          • Spirit Macardi

            Yes, but that X-Parasite got his genetic information from the frozen remains of Ridley.

            If it had come from some spare pieces/parts of him that were recovered then it would be understandable, but the frozen one was completely intact (though dessicated).

          • Haganeren

            But doesn’t the frozen remains is a Ridley clone from Other M itself ?

            I always though so.

          • Spirit Macardi

            That’s what I was just saying. That’s why removing Other M would create a rather large plot-hole.

          • Haganeren

            Ok, ok, sorry.

        • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

          I think the problem is: the manga is long. Right? It has way more going on for much longer periods rather than the game where they just tried to cram stuff in, especially when it seemed to conflict with everything pre-established.

          I also kind of feel it’s unfair that Sakamoto got to handle so much of the writing as if he was the lone director and head of Samus’s character. I lay blame with him rather than Team Ninja. x’D
          It reminds me of Inafune always being referred to as Megaman’s creator – sure he has contributed a lot, but lets not overcompensate the man. lol

          • Spirit Macardi

            Pretty much. The game just seems to expect that you’re already a major fan and have played/seen everything from the series. And while I appreciate references to past continuity, it can make it extremely obtuse for those who are new or haven’t remembered every minute detail.

            I still like it, but I do understand why others don’t.

          • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

            Yeah, pretty much. I think, when they know that there isn’t complete (legal!) access to every bit of the series and then they go out of their way to focus on that anyway, it’s pretty much closing the door on some fans’ faces, and that’s not very great.

            Ultimately, this conversation makes me wonder who they’d get together for a team to work on the games.

          • Asura

            It’s not about it being confusing or hard to follow. That is not the problem. I WISH that was all that was wrong with that putrid pile of steaming crap.

            It was just poor story/writing that suffered from major cognitive dissonance in the larger context of the whole series, and I don’t even want to get into the disgust over the whole Adam situation. Ugh. It was horrible.

      • Shippoyasha

        I actually feel they can build on Other M and retroactively make it better. I know the game has become the butt of jokes but the game could have used a few fixes to make it vastly better, such as the way weapon unlocks worked and how Samus interacted with the Federation.

        But most importantly, the whole exploration element needed work. I am guessing they will make a 2D and a Prime style game though. I do want them to try a story again though. At least not make Samus a total mute.

      • Haganeren

        Not really an atrocity, i have no problem with Samus having a paternal figure (after all, it’s not as if we will see him again). The Ridley Scene was awkward but didn’t bothered me as much as everyone said.

        And the idea with the baby was a neat one that i have though when i played Super Metroid. Could have been done better that’s all.

        Seriously, i’m quite sick of hearing hyperbolic comment like that. Yeah, Other M may have been clumsy some times but to be honnest, Prime 2 was a real leatdown and Prime 3 was a little repetitive to me after the other two. (Even if it was better than 2)

        I prefer clumsy other M than repetitive Prime 3. Call me crazy

    • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

      I agree entirely, especially on the VA.

      But for story, I hope they’ll consider that story itself was the problem (definitely in-part) for Other M, but because it was so drastically different in handling and stuff.

      • Spirit Macardi

        I’d just personally like a story that maybe focuses on a different aspect of Samus’ personality. We’ve seen her weaknesses and her strengths, but what else is there about her? What does she enjoy doing? What sort of jobs does she take on that don’t involve the Space Pirates? I really want to know these things.

        • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

          Same here~. I think that’d be a great aspect to explore, and fun. It reminds me of all the fun, laidback art people draw of her.

          • Spirit Macardi

            Might be worthwhile to have an open-world (or rather, open-galaxy/universe) Metroid game. Keeping the exploration aspect, but also letting you do things like take on bounties and basically just see what Samus’ life is like when not having to deal with someone stealing energy parasites yet again x3

          • Mastery

            I don’t think it needs to be open world for that. Take a look at the Castlevania games, we get to see the characters take a break from exploring and fighting and, among other things, start confessing their sins to ghost priests and acting as one to listen to the sins of the other dead, enjoying sitting in comfortable chairs, listening to their familiar companion singing while doing so, take furniture from around the castle to decorate a room and make it look good despite having to destroy the castle later, look for pictures of bigfoot, draw scenery, etc. It’d be cool if we had little details like that in a normal Metroid game. Imagine leaving the controller alone for a second and have her start looking at something that interests her.

      • MLSabre

        I get the feeling that Sakamoto presented the story in a way he did not intended. As a result of poor writing and presentation, Other M is what we got instead. Makes me wonder if there were any editors in the team during Other M’s development.

        • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

          Hmm, I hadn’t considered any of that. Good point.

  • SirRichard

    Frankly by this point I would take either or, both are great, but the 3DS rounding off its little band of classic styled platformers with a lovely traditional Metroid would be preferred. Wouldn’t mind a new Prime on the Wii U, though.

  • Strain42

    C’mon, you can’t leave us hanging, Nintendo. We need the sequel to Other M. Where’s Ather F!?

    In all seriousness, as much as I love the Prime games, I’d love to see them do a more classic Metroid style game.

  • kylehyde

    A new metroid prime for Wii U and a classic style metroid for 3DS (next level games, I’m looking at you I hope nintendo looks at them too)

  • idrawrobots

    You would really have to completely change the first person game so that it didn’t feel empty like Prime did. Honestly I would rather it be a close over the shoulder too.

    • Ruins72

      oh god no, not for metroid, hell a huge part of the prime games is looking through the visor and scanning things, and seeing all this information come up on it. You won’t get that from an over the shoulder perspective without resorting to holograms and that defeats the purpose of her visor doing what it does :/

      also, you thought the prime games were empty? I feel like they did a great job of populating them with wildlife and enemies without over saturating the areas.

      • Shippoyasha

        Maybe the scanning could be helmet perspective while the action could be 3rd person.

        • Ruins72

          Ehhh, maaaybe…but how would you turn metroid into a third person game without making it either too much like a cover shooter or a run-n-gun? I just don’t think it would translate well.

          Oh and now that I just re-read your first comment, how did having it first person make it feel any more empty than if it would feel if it were third person?

          • idrawrobots

            I don’t want to run and gun either. In fact I think The Primes had way too much combat.

          • Shippoyasha

            I actually like Prime so it’s no issue either way for me. I guess it’d be interesting if they reworked the Other M system to feel more exploration based.

            I wouldn’t say that the first person would feel empty, but I suppose players who want a 3rd person view likes the kind of natural personality watching the suit in action brings.

      • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

        Not only was there so much going in the world, there was wonderful amounts of background information. It felt so cool. And they didn’t overwhelm and overload the game with it all like some people might do on accident.

      • idrawrobots

        It was just running through boring hallway after hallway. That is what Prime felt like to me.

  • idrawrobots

    Seriously why do you all like the Prime games so much?

    • Quan Chi

      I only like the first one. The sequels seemed rushed. How many evil Samuses can you make in one series xD

      • Shippoyasha

        Yeah. I am not exactly fond of some design elements of the sequels. The sequels still were fun but it felt like Prime had the most time to bake in the oven. The dark zone was pretty interesting in Prime 2. Kind of like Link to the Past in mechanics. But it felt too much like busy work at times, back tracking in two worlds at once.

        • idrawrobots

          Corruption was just ridiculous with the enemies. It felt like a Saturday cartoon, which is fine but not for Metroid.

    • Kaminari683

      The first one was the best one. The second one to me was too hard. Corruption was good, but it was missing something.

    • Altritter

      What do you not like about them?

      • idrawrobots

        Too much aiming. I don’t like scanning. too many long corridors, and with Corruption I disliked the Saturday Morning Cartoon bosses. Never played Echoes. I like all other Metroids though.

  • endril

    Keep making prime-style metroids and make a new IP that plays like old metroid.

  • OutlawStar26ep

    I love both the traditional side-scrolling and Prime style Metroid so whichever one they decide to do first is fine by me. All I ask is that the game be as “open” as zero mission and super. Fusion was fun but was too linear.

  • Shane Guidaboni

    My dream is a 2D Metroid on the 3DS that utilizes the bottom screen for inventory management and the map. Don’t disappoint me, Nintendo!

  • Ni ~Algidus~

    by this point whatever if it is a Prime-style or Classic-style Metroid. i’ll just buy it. Yesterday i finished zero mission again. and now i’m playing cofrontation ( fan game).
    In the subject of which style on which console. I think the 3DS can get both types of styles but the classic style will be a priority since it is a portable. And a brand new Prime-type on Wii U.

  • raygunner659

    Metroid Prime frightened me so much when I first got it as a present, but I scared pretty easily back then. Maybe it’s finally time to finish it. Or I could wait a year. It doesn’t feel like the next one will be out in awhile. Then again, if I end up really liking it that’ll give me time to find and play the rest of the trilogy…

    • Kaminari683

      O_o you NEED to finish the 1st metroid prime!!

      I can remember playing at 11pm for about an hour or so (when it 1st came out) thinking I can play for another 45 minutes… Then I look at the clock and see it’s almost 4am!!

      The game is that good.

      • raygunner659

        Haha, I know that feeling. Sounds great! Good thing I have some time this summer. Time to break out the Gamecube Controllers!

  • Guest

    I think I’ll put this here. Not sure who did it, but the new side scrolling Metroid games need to look like this

    • Kaminari683

      I posted this picture. Don’t know why it posted as a guest. If the mods can see this, is there a way to fix it?

      • idrawrobots

        I like this one. But really what I want is a Metal Metroid in the vein of Paper Mario and Epic Yarn.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Kaleido-Ruby

          I’m pretty sure that guy stopped dev on that a year or so ago…I remember him because I remember this:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xinw6In4To4

          • Exkaiser

            They posted a short playable version when they stopped work on it, though, so it is technically out.

    • iamtehultimatepwnage .

      i would really like if they go for this graphic style ( probably not as good but still) for the 3ds and have prime style games on wiiu

    • Ric Vazquez

      Agreed

  • http://gamesero.wordpress.com/ Arla

    I’m in the minority, but I’m sad to hear this news. I loved Other M and could never get into the Prime games or the classics.

  • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

    I hope we hear more info soon!

  • http://people.ign.com/princerevolver Surgeon Of Death

    Pretty much what fans have been asking for. 2D for the 3Ds & Prime for the Wii U. The fact that we’re getting a new Starfox plus two new Metroid games is a wet dream for Nintendo fans.

  • HershelLousyton

    The fact that they more or less acted like Other M never existed warms my heart.

  • Paul Rodriguez

    Cool but I am more interested in the traditional style of Metroid game. Even though Prime has some of the Metroid flare it’s not my thing (FPS are not a genre I play) but as people like both versions, I think they should try to release both to appeal to both crowds.

  • Kroz

    …give it to platinum

    • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

      No. 0A0

  • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

    You’re a great person, Takahashi. I like you. ;u;
    I really hope we see both styles return too~. It wouldn’t be too much to do Prime-style on Wii U and classic style on 3DS.

    • Kaminari683

      I loooove your avatar… I want that figma….

      • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

        Haha, thank you.
        I do too. >u<

        I want to buy re-ments and put her with my Sailor Moon figure and take funny pictures of them together.

        • Kaminari683

          That sentence just gave me tingles… Now I have to get the Samus figma

  • Daniel Rossevelt

    If they do a prime like game on the Wii U then i will have no choice, curse you Nintendo.

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    I’m currently speedrunning Metroid Fusion, and I’d looooooooove to speedrun a 2D 3DS Metroid <3<3<3

    And as I say since ages: Retro on Metroid pleeeaaaasssseeee o/

  • fairysun

    I am in for 2D style Metroid. Not a big fan of Metroid Prime.

  • ivanchu77

    Doesn´t matter if it´s 2D or 3D, at this point i would just be happy simply with a new metroid game, it´s been a long time and it´s time the franchise makes a comeback

  • jugss

    Prime one pls!!!!

  • WingsOfEternity

    Story and characterization aside, I actually want more games that play like Other M

  • DanijoEX ♬ the Cosmic Owl

    Both are fine by me. I’ll wait for the time when it becomes reality. Two Metroid games I seriously enjoy is Metroid Prime and Metroid Zero Mission.

    Not to mention I still have my Metroid Prime save from 2002 on my Gamecube Memory Card. Hard to believe but it’s true. And I still play Metroid Prime to this day.

  • goa ahsd

    i tried to play metriod but culdnt get into it… i thought it was bland. wat is a good metriod game

  • Abend

    get wayforward to develop the 2d metroid and get virt to do the music because holy shit if he used his metroid medley as a basis.

    • NimbusStev

      Oh man, that would be amazing! I’ve secretly been holding out that Capcom would give them the rights to make a new MegaMan game.

      • Abend

        Haha yeah i doubt that would ever happen they seem to like holding megaman hostage at this point only for cameos and dlc stuff its quite sad at this point.

  • Slayven19

    Good I guess, but I could never get into the prime games so sign me up for the side scrolling kinds.

  • Ying

    This is fantastic news for fans of the series. I haven’t played many of them, but I wouldn’t mind trying out the side scrolling kind.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    The best part of this interview is that Sakamoto wasn’t involved; hopefully, that will be the case with the new Metroid games as well. I won’t go so far as to say that he is solely responsible for the series’ misfortunes (it’s never quite that simple), but he does share a significant amount of blame for the train wreck that was Other M. If the series is to live on, it would be better if he wasn’t anywhere near these future projects.

    In any case, I’m very glad to hear they haven’t forgotten about the 2D Metroids. The Prime series was a success, so it’s perfectly understandable that they will continue it, but it’s good that they recognise the demand for a side-scrolling game as well.

  • James Enk

    i also want both a 2D one (not 2.5D) and a Prime style one for the big console

  • Ni ~Algidus~

    Another good thing would be a new game with third person perspective.

  • wahyudil

    I only finished one side scroller series metroid and all prime series

    I love the prime series more

  • Mir Teiwaz

    My biggest problem with Other M, story aside, is that you aren’t really allowed to explore until after the main story is done.

    That, and the way Samus just shows no emotions during her monologues really grinded away at my ability to care.

    The way she talks about Adam came off like more of a creepy stalker than her seeing him as a father-figure.

    Either way, excited to hear that more Metroid is at least on the table as a possibility.

  • sd28

    other m 2 lets go

  • eilegz

    hopefully more like other M and traditional like super metroid. forget that prime exist its the worse i dont want a fps metroid that limit samus abilities.

  • Göran Isacson

    Someone needs to do one of those “why don’t we have both”, because I can dig the hell out of two Metroid games with those two different play-styles. As long as we bury Other M’s story in a deep, dark crevace and never look back, we can bring it’s gameplay back and improve it.

    • Vash bane

      lmao that bad eh? so the story is bad but the gameplay is good?

      • Göran Isacson

        I kinda dug the gameplay, though it had it’s rough spots. This may depend on the kind of reflexes you have, but I played it with a friend of mine and he had a very hard time with the switching between “side-scrolling” and “fps-sections”, which you activate by changing how you hold the Wiimote. He had big problems with aiming and reliably switching between modes, which made some battles needlessly complicated.

        As far as story is concerned… eugh. It’s such old hat by now and it’s been territory I’ve talked about so often, but they made Samus Aran as interesting as staid dishwater, The lack of energy and emotion in her actress’s performance is one thing, the plot threads that just dangle uselessly and never get resolved another, none of the side-characters are ever developed or interesting and the melodramatic twists just KILLS the script…

        The game is quite atmospheric when it’s just METROID. Walking into the great unknown, skulking along corridors with just you and slimy monstrosities around every bend. Whenever it tries to be something else you just roll your eyes and GROOOAAANNN until it’s over and done with.

        • Vash bane

          O_O sounds complicated and I’m not to good with the wii mote. the thing has my arms tired quite often (maybe I play in the wrong position?) that’s kinda sad I hoping for a decent story (im a sucker for a decent story these days :p)

          • Göran Isacson

            Oooh, that may be a big strike against it. I don’t know if you’ve played it or seen it been played, but how it goes is that during the sections were Samus is walking around and exploring, you hold the Wiimote as you would a NES controller- flat like a line, the D-Pad to the left, the 1 and 2 buttons on the right. When you hold it like this, Samus runs along a predetermined path, kind of like a rail shooter if you’ve ever played one of those. Right and left on the D-pad sends her in one predetermined direction, back and forth.

            However, the environments are still 3D environments, and by holding the Wiimote like you usually do (like a remote control towards the TV) you change to a FPS mode where you control the target reticule with the Wiimotes movements. The game tries thus to be a blend of the “classic” sidescrolling Metroids and the FPS Metroid Prime. Like I said, my friend had problems with switching between these two modes, he found it clunky and that it took so much time to switch between modes (and figuring out WHEN to switch between modes) that he often ended up losing battles he felt he should’ve won. It seems like this wasn’t a problem for a lot of people because it’s not a complaint I’ve seen that often around the Internet, but it might be there for you if you find the Wiimote hard to handle.

            And yeah, story is just… disappointment. Disappointment all around.

  • Nobody

    I want both, but if I had to choose, I’d go with the original style, simply because the “FPS” style was all I’ve ever owned. I’ve only gotten to taste the original style through emulators and would like to actually own and play a game in that style for once.

  • Ric Vazquez

    New 2d Metroid game coming soon *drops mic*

  • the9reen9uy

    Give it the Donkey Kong Country Returns treatment! Keep it 2D!

  • leingod

    Whatever they do, hope they keep the atmosphere of the non-Other M games. I hated that in Other M… there was so much character interaction, dialogue and the such… Metroid games are great when you can feel the desolation, the lonely exploring, etc.

  • Sperium3000

    I’d say it’s about time to return to the traditional style of Metroid game. The last one that wasn’t a remake was Fusion. Speaking of which, the plot didn’t move forward past that since fusion, either.

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    The only two kinds of Metroid games I want to hear about are “the good kind” and “the kind we’ll never do again”.

  • chroma816

    I’d like a new Prime style game, rather than a side scroller or something like Other M.

  • Yan Zhao

    Simple. Traditional style Metroid with the 3D effect on the 3DS, Prime style on teh WIi U.

  • Leon Magnus

    I really enjoy the Metroid: Other M, I want another game like that. The Prime series I don’t like too much. 2D like (or something) > FPS.

  • isotrex

    2D/2.5D and Prime would be perfectly fine and awesome as long as we get Metroid. :)

  • http://www.isfuturebright.com/ Silvio Carréra

    Glad they have this in mind. Now let’s make it happen ;)

  • http://zysets.tumblr.com/ Zysets

    Yeah 2D gameplay on 3DS, Prime style on Wii U. Samus is one of the coolest characters in gaming and I hope she gets better treatment, Other M was hideous.

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