Is This Suikoden Trademark For A New Game?

By Spencer . June 26, 2009 . 6:56pm

imageA few days ago Konami registered a trademark for Genso Suikoden in the USA (thanks for the tip Pesmerga00!!). The last Suikoden trademark led to a brand new game, but I’m not sure this one will.


Genso Suikoden is what Konami calls the Suikoden series in Japan. This could simply be a protective trademark. However, the Genso Suikoden trademark is slightly different than the Suikoden trademark. Genso Suikoden can be used for online computer games and downloadable programs for cellular phones too.


On the other hand… Konami has been simplifying names too like calling the new DDR game Dance Dance Revolution and Pop ‘n Music, well Pop ‘n Music.


I can’t decide. Is this for a new Suikoden game? A re-imagining of Suikoden I? Advance legal protection against a shady software developer piggybacking off Konami’s RPG franchise?

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  • Kaoro

    Maybe they’re finally releasing that PSP port of Suikoden I & II!

    Keep dreaming?

    • Pichi

      Would be happy if they did that! But I’m thinking it might be a new game or nothing coming out of it.

      • Me three. I’ve been going back and forth, debating whether or not to import the Japanese version for a long time.

  • Pesmerga00

    I would really, really love to have it be Suikoden VI. Preferably on either the PS3 or 360. (No handhelds!) I like to play my Rpgs while relaxing, on the TV in HD.

    As Spencer said, its just a trademark and could mean anything. One can always hope though.

    • ^ That. I really don’t want to get a Wii for a couple of stand-out games. Did that with the N64, Gamecube, and the Dreamcast… and dang were they a great few games, but… *sigh* Multiplat?

  • Raccoon

    Suikoden VI please ^^’ !

  • B.K.

    Maybe it’s a remake of the first game.

  • Anon

    A new game would be amazing (original world please!) but a Suikoden I & II PSP release would be great too. More Suikoden is always a good thing.

  • EvilAkito

    Suikoden had my full respect after Suikoden V, but lost it again after the disappointing Tierkreis. Even if they follow up to this by announcing Suikoden VI, I’d only be moderately interested. The games are so hit or miss. Suikodens 1, 2, and 5 all followed the same basic formula, and I do realize that the series would become stale if there weren’t some changes, but you can’t inject fresh life into the series by removing central elements that made the other games stand out in the overcrowded RPG market in the first place.

    • Ereek

      I respectfully disagree, I think many of the changes in Tierkreis were welcome. The main flaws were too many random encounters and a lack of Escape Talisman. Also, there are quite a bit more playable characters in Tierkreis than there were in the other installments and lack of 6 person parties meant that even fewer will be in battle, which is a valid complaint even if it doesn’t bother me.

      I don’t see why people are complaining about the lack of Runes and blacksmithing either. The blacksmith system is pretty much exactly the same as any other system where a character is limited to one weapon they upgrade over time. I think many of the complaints I hear about Tierkreis are just from people who fear change.

      • Hraesvelgr

        Probably because most of the changes took away what was “unique” to Suikoden and made it more like “the rest”. As for me, I’d just like to see Suikoden be challenging at some point. I don’t need a game to kill me or force me to run back to safety/healing after every other battle, but the Suikoden series has always had such a low level of challenge, it kind of takes the fun out of the battles.

      • EvilAkito

        The deviation from the usual Suikoden mythos didn’t really bother me. I didn’t really care that the story started from scratch or that there weren’t any runes. What bugged me was the fact that the elements of a great Suikoden game were missing, leaving Tierkreis as nothing more than just another RPG that I have no reason to play in the presence of better games.

        The reason I enjoy Suikoden is because I like the way the games are structured. You’re not adventuring through a huge world and trying to save it from the forces of evil. You basically begin each game as a small group of rebels, opposing a large government that could squash you like a bug. But throughout the game, you grow in numbers, and certain characters (such as your tactician) play a big part in influencing the outcome of key events that allow you to overcome the great odds. The sense of progression and growth of your forces are what make Suikoden’s stories so interesting. Tierkreis at least keeps some of these elements in tact, but from a gameplay perspective, I find it downright tragic that they removed key elements such as the one-on-one duels and the large-scale army battles. They basically stripped away so many of Suikoden’s unique elements that I had no more fun playing Tierkreis than I would have had playing Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Wild Arms, Tales of _____ia, or any of the other countless games in the overcrowded genre.

        Oh yeah, and the main character sucked too.

    • I personally think it would be best if we don’t think of Tierkreis as a Suikoden game, with respect to the trademarks of the game. In fact, I think that, other than the fact that the creators wanted to link this as an exploration of the parallel worlds idea in the series, the game shouldn’t have been marketed as Suikoden. It had all the makings of a good RPG if it weren’t for the fact that fans saw the word “Suikoden” and jumped on it thinking that it would explain more of the Suikoden world or the True Runes (or whatever else people are looking for in Suikoden … old familiar faces?).

      To me, Tierkreis was more of an experiment and an exploration for the series, especially since it wasn’t marketed as a main-series game.

  • Constraint

    Well, I heard it was in development for the PS3 and Xbox 360.

    • I doubt Konami would give Suikoden a high enough budget to warrant it being a PS3/360 game. Do we have numbers for how Tierkreis did?

      My money’s on the Suiko I & II release on PSP like Kaoro said, or a remake of some sort.

      • I doubt it’d be that PSP port of Suiko 1 & 2, simply because so much time has passed and you’d think they’d do that sooner…

    • lostinblue

      There were also rumors of Suikoden VI being for the Wii, specially as Konami had a “untitled RPG” in development for the Wii a while ago, never unveiled, hopefully still in the works.

  • Mazen

    Please god, I hope so.

    • I would take that link with a grain of salt if I were you. Don’t mean to offend anyone, but Skoar is an Indian games mag — one I’ve worked with extensively in the past. I can’t think of any way they would have access to this level of info, especially considering RPGs don’t have much of a fanbase in India.

      The only credible source that comes to mind is Microsoft India, but even that’s stretching it.

      • Mazen

        Well thats disappointing. :(

  • Much too soon to say anything… It’d be nice if it was a new game though.

  • jarrodand

    localizing the PSP I+II port makes the most sense, but I could also see a Wii remake, which seems to be happening more frequently with PS1 games (Klonoa, Silent Hill, etc).

  • jj984jj

    I’m putting my money on protective trademark.

  • bri

    hey, for all of us suikoden fans this new trademark could at least be a step in the right direction for a new game. pray.

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