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Facebook Files: Buying Habits: New vs. Used

By Ishaan . November 21, 2010 . 10:28am

Facebook Files: Buying Habits: New vs. Used

This week, we’re discussing the subject of buying new vs. used games. The complete discussion thread for this week’s topic was considerably longer and debate-heavy, in case you’re interested in checking it out.

 

Anton wrote:

Over the past couple of years I have been hearing a lot of debate over the purchasing and selling of used games by major retailers. While the sale of used games doesn’t benefit the developers at all, it’s a huge profit to game retailers and can be very economical for consumers. With major retailers taking games in for low credit and selling back for merely $5 below new SRPs, there is no wonder in my mind that it is cause for concern.

 

However, for some consumers $5 can be a big deal. In addition, most major retailers have some form of store membership or discount card. For a game that sells new at $59.99, it may sell for $54.99 used. With a membership discount card, the price could be as low as $49.50 which, in my opinion, is a pretty good deal. But, of that $49.50 the developers don’t get a cent. It’s pure profit for the retailer. While buying a used game for a lower price is a benefit to the consumer and retailer, it hurts the developers, which in the long run, may come back to bite the consumer and retailer.

 

I look at it like this: if a developer is losing 1 new sale for ever 1 used sale of a title, it could result in spending cutbacks during development which can result in games of poor quality. Consumers buy these poor quality games from retailers, become dissatisfied playing it, and trade it back to the same retailer.

 

These days I would like to say that I purchase mostly new games, but the fact is that most of my buying is of used titles. This is only because I buy a lot of older games for collector’s purposes. However, I will always buy new games that interest me from Atlus and NIS America.

 

Andre wrote:

I see no problem buying a used game when it is a game a year or two old. It is normally at the right price due to loss in value due to age and the introduction of stronger production values in newer games. Last year I shopped around in Gamestop and was happy to be able to get my hands on two Xbox classic gems; Panzer Dragoon Orta and Jade Empire. I think its fine to have a market for used games because many, many, many new games come into the market every year and no one except maybe the upper class could have the money to pay for every game they want to own.

 

Antonio, you mentioned that used games can sell just a tad less than the new version and I think this is absurd. A used game should be like buying a used car, by the time you open it up and use, its value has decreased. Nothing stays close to the value it had when it was purchased new.

 

What usually is a deciding factor in buying new games IMO, is that I know it is in good condition and now a days, some companies are putting in incentives such as free DLC to buy a game new.

 

Samwise wrote:

I know it’s a really selfish way to think of it, but I can sum it up easily: If I can get what I want, I’ll do it at whatever price I’m alright with. I’m never thinking “Oh the publisher/developer deserves my money” if it’s something I don’t care about.

 

That’s the gist of it, and all that really needs to be said.

 

What are your outlook and buying habits when it comes to new vs. used games? Are there any particular publishers you try to support by buying new, or are you more the type to hunt down the best deals you can find?


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  • Tokyo Guy

    You know with respect to the issue of sales/profits and the publisher, I have this to say: If you fail to provide enough supply of a game and fans take to eBay or used game stores to get it, you don’t deserve any of the profits.

    Seriously, how many times has there been a game that a publisher makes a bare minimum number of units and then the game is nowhere to be found and becomes a rare collector’s item? With digital downloads this has become less of a problem at least with respect to Sony, but as Nintendo has yet to provide any portable emulation on their network (seriously, why is there no GB/GBC/GBA Virtual Console for the DSi?) it makes things difficult.

    I remember seeing the English Suikoden 2 for something like $250 some years ago on eBay, and like $310 for a used version of Bonk 3 CD (Turbo-Grafx 16), also on eBay. With respect to Suikoden 2, if Konami is too ignorant to notice the obvious fact that the game is popular and then chooses not to press new copies, then tough luck for them in terms of profits. As for Hudson and Bonk 3 CD, well that’s kind of a moot point because the console died a long time ago.

  • Joanna

    Very interesting topic this week. So many replies; I read most of them. It’s always interesting seeing what others think about this topic.

    As for myself, I usually buy new games, but rarely at full price. The times I buy at full price/day 1 are:

    1. If there is a nice preorder bonus
    2. If I want to support the publisher/developer (usually for smaller companies).
    3. I really want the game

    Otherwise, I usually wait because I’ve got a pretty big wishlist (which isn’t helping with my massive backlog ^^;;). I tend to buy older stuff first and those are usually cheaper. I also occasionally buy a used game if I can’t find it new or priced reasonably new. But like others, I prefer new because I don’t have to worry about the quality (I don’t usually get around to playing until a while later) and I hate the EB Games price stickers…they are so hard to come off and look so ugly. :’( Although, recently, the EB Games by my house has gotten better stickers, so that’s one less thing to bother me if I ever have to buy it used.

    • http://www.genkaibreak.com Code

      Actually the best way I’ve figured out to get rid of the price sticks off EB Game’s cases (I absolutely hate them too omo;;) is to take the game’s coverart out first, then if you can lightly peel it off as much as you can (carefully so that you don’t stretch the plastic sleeve).

      Next what you wanna do is using a cotton ball, dip it in olive oil, and then wipe it across the remaining sticker, what this does is it breaks down the glue and removes residue. If you do this and keep wiping you’ll remove a lot of the sticker. After it looks clean, basically using a damp cloth and wipe the oil off, then with a dry cloth you can wipe off anything that remains, and let it air dry for a little while. When your all done you won’t be able to even tell there was a sticker on there >w<'

      • Joanna

        Hey thanks for the tip, Code~

        I was using Windex before but it left the glue on and the surface became sticky so I had to leave most of the stickers on.

        Next time I’m sorting through my collection I shall be sure to give this a go and remove the remaining stickers. :3

        • http://www.genkaibreak.com Code

          Yeah trust me I haven’t come across anything that works better for removing stickers, the main issue you wanna watch out for is you don’t stretch the plastic sleeve part of the case, or leave fingernail marks in it well picking off the sticker. I’ve never tried olive oil just outright on the sticker without trying to feel off as much of the paper first but it might potentially make it easier to get the sticker off as a whole, but you’ll probably use a whole lot more olive oil xpx;; but the method above has totally works for me >w<'

  • http://www.genkaibreak.com Code

    rar, I generally buy a mix of new/used, I’d say I buy about 60% new, other 40% are games I either wait for a price drop or I’ll look out for on ebay/local trade sites/used, it mostly depends on the game and what price is right, and of course how much money I have at the moment. Generally I’m a real stickler for condition though, I’ll hold off on a game until the condition is A+ but in the last few years I’ve really good luck with used games being in excellent shape >w<; It's probably a little silly but one aspect I always enjoyed was the hunt for good games, rare games, and good deal, I was kind of afraid this generation I might lose that quality to my game buying, but I kind of feel like in the end I still have a nice pool of games to look for, and hunt down >w<'
    Also having started part time work at EB Games, I’ve maybe gotten a bit more of an appreciation that goes into making sure the discs are in decent shape, having done it myself now for a few weeks. Generally if any games looks even remotely iffy, my boss says it’s better to toss them in defectives then to have garbage on the shelf. Unless I’d personally play the disc, it doesn’t go on shelf is the rule. I know probably not all locations are like that but it makes me feel a little bit better about buying used, or buying new that’s already been opened opo; Also I was surprised to find out A LOT of games that are marked as used, were actually brand new games the store received in plastic but for stock reasons we gut them and mark them as used. Also in the last few years I’ve become much more thrifty, aka borrowed a lot more games from friends xpx; After a friend force/lent me Arkham Asylum I’ve generally asked off and on if I could just borrow a game if they weren’t playing it, which works out pretty well sometimes too >w<'

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