By Ishaan . January 23, 2013 . 8:17am
Nintendo have released a full batch of screenshots for the Wii U remake of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, which is slated for release in fall 2013. Take a look at the screenshots below:
I think my butt is tingling. I must be happy! :D
Or you need to see a doctor asap. There’s a bunch of people in another thread whose ‘pants are exploding’ that should seek clinical help as well.
Please don’t do a kooloolimpah
Isn’t that the point? Its a remake, not a remaster. It should look better. That’s like saying a 3DS game looks better than a DS game. Its implied and implicit, not sure why it needs to be reinforced. Not being a Debbie Downer, the remake looks great, I just dislike the way certain articles (not just here, but everywhere) are overly emphasised. The other article that mentions the remake “looks gorgeous” is another example of this. Good news, leaves it in the minds of the reader to decide upon a response. Sensationalist news does not. I’m beginning to think that this site is run by staunch Nintendo fans. That’s fine, but it would be nice if such enthusiasm was shown to all platforms and games, not just Nintendo’s products.
You are totally right.
Oh, look, the only agreeing comment is the only one not getting a shitton of backlash. Self-congratulating fantards at their best.
Oh, look! what a failure! are you trying to make me feel bad? awww so innocent gay emo boy, why dont you go cut your wrists now? =)
Btw u mad bro? LOL! dont cry plz, just dont do it =)
Run by Nintedo-fans is a bit mean, god forbid some excitement from a videogame website. I’ve always loved Siliconera for focusing just as much on weirder or niche titles as well as even focusing on items that may [sadly] only stay in Japan. It’s also hard to find any form of journalism that isn’t somewhat influenced by personal tastes. This *is* a nice HD remaster; while that is subjective, it’s better than a lot of efforts that simply “up the texture resolution” like most of the HD versions we’ve seen on the PS360.
The game looks wonderful, what do you want headlines to say? “Here are some Wind Waker HD screenshots, look at them or don’t, whatever”
He meant that these article writers can’t seem to grasp the very obvious difference between a remake and a remaster. A remake is where they basically make everything from scratch or upgrade everything to fit the capacities of its new format. By upgrade i mean remodel, make new textures. In a remaster they basically use the same OLD assets from the old game and just upscale and clean everything. This is not a remaster, this is a remake.
I feel like my intelligence is being insulted here. Obviously, a remaster and a remake are two very different things. The point was the difference in intent. Actually going to the effort of doing a full remake as opposed to a remaster.
I would have thought that the headline made that clear. If we couldn’t tell the difference, we would have said “other HD Remasters,” which we obviously didn’t.
If there was a difference in intent the headline could have reflected that, instead of comparing what was done to the graphics as it does now. Unless the point of the headline was also to declare that remasters shouldn’t be done as they should all been remakes.
Sadly, you have limited room for headlines and you need to get the point across in as few words as possible.
The idea is not to opinionate too much, especially in a negative sense. For example, “This game looks very nice” is acceptable, while “Other games, you should all be doing what this game does” is not.
It isn’t our place to tell developers what to do, and Siliconera has never editorialized that way, unless it’s in a column discussing sales or market strategy.
I do not think there is a difference between “put HD remasters to shame” and “other HD remasters to shame” as both pertains to OTHER remasters. Anyways you could have just emphasized on the beauty of the game without implying unnecessary comparisons.
I think the distinction is to re-enforce the fact that so many people are doing remasters instead of proper remakes. “Look at how much you can improve on a game, instead of just capitalizing on an old port to maximize profits”.
You have to admit the hd remaster is a current trend, and it is getting old seeing companies charging near to full price for years old games with little to no effort required.
But they aren’t charging full price for these games. They’re charging reduced prices for collections of upgraded ports or ~$20 for one. The question now is, how much is Nintendo going to charge for this? Because it could be another OoT3D situation – obvious effort was put into making it but not enough to charge full retail price.
Stupid phone gliching up….
Okay, my comment…
On price: I am aware many games come in bundles and that they are not full price(which is why I said “near”), but that is half the point. A full remake at full price makes more sense than a repackage near full price, based on dev time and costs. Plus, if you thought of buying a game a second time, wouldn’t you prefer it being better? Otherwise, why buy it again?
Something else to consider: WW is 35 dollars used on Amazon.
s hold onto their value better than any other, so a full remake at full cost isn’t so unbelieveable.
Just some thoughts of mine mangled by my phone…>͵>
After today’s Nintendo Direct, you can’t really blame anyone for becoming a Nintendo fan… :P
The only new or unnanouned IPs were Monolith’s one, Atlus’ cross over and the 2nd Platinum Games title. Everything else was familiar, expected or a “remake.” So three “new” properties.
Still, I might get a Wii U for Monolith’s title, we’ll see.
It was an utterly disappointing showing for any third party support, and that’s a fact. We saw Atlus and Platinum (who were already committed in this regard). Everything else was 1st party, which has never been Nintendo’s issue.
Well, it’s not only the number of properties that’s important, but the fact that those properties are all very lucrative and attractive to hardcore gamers. We should also mention the new Yoshi-yarn game which, I’m sorry to say, just fails in comparison to all the other announcements. But it stills deserves mention.
For third party support, I believe it was already stated the day before that there would be no emphasis on third party support for this presentation, so I didn’t expect any in it.
It’s called Nintendo Direct, not Capcom Direct or Activision Direct. Wait for E3
You’re grasping at straws. It was stated specifically to be Nintendo Only. At the end, Iwata even stated more info on 3rd party
would be presented t “soon”.
The ONLY bad thing about this presentation was the VC bit. And these accusations and complaints make you come across as you being upset that Nintendo has good news… something I don’t like pointing out on this site.
The point is, rather than doing the oh-so-popular remaster of popular games (which would have worked extremely well and easily with Wind Waker as seen from Dolphin screenshots), they’re going through the effort of making a remake.
You wouldn’t be wrong in thinking that. Looking over the past few weeks, Ishaan in particular seems to publish mostly positive Nintendo news, negative Vita news, and the odd positive PS3 article. If you see positive Vita news, I can almost guarantee it’s from Spencer or one of the others. It’s disheartening to see such biases from a generally solid website.
Just so you know, Sony’s CEO himself admitted that Vita is underperforming in relation to their expected sales.
What relevance is this to the comparative excitement for or coverage of other platforms? So because a platform isn’t doing well in terms of hardware units shifted, it should be ignored in favour of more popular ones? By that logic, everything on Siliconera should be about Gree and iOS gaming then, which run sales circles around anything Nintendo does.
The relevance, from my perspective, is that it’s easier to be excited about a platform with healthy support.
As for the coverage, you’re free to take a look at how much coverage Vita gets through the tag.
Then I’d expect to see dozens of Gree and iOS stories flooding the newswire here on Siliconera. According to your sentiments and reasoning.
Search “iOS”, “Android” and “GREE”.
And compare those to the preponderance of Nintendo related stories. I can already tell you what the result will be. You go search those headers and see the results for yourself.
Nintendo makes announcements often, in addition to regular periodic broadcasts like Nintendo Direct (which, like today, covers many different topics). 3DS – let’s be honest – has a pretty wide library. And Nintendo is actively trying to gain developer support for WiiU. In those situations, wouldn’t it be expectable for them to produce many newsbits?
There are far more announcements in any given week, especially in Japanese for iOS/ Android/ Gree games than Nintendo could ever hope to make in a month, so I’d have to disagree.
The reasoning is simple: there is MORE news for Nintendo in the first place, and most of what there is for Vita tends to be bad.
You are blaming the messenger here. They report what is, often better than most other places. And what is is nintendo is on a roll and Vita is tanking.
I acknowledge that mobiles can be just as valid platforms for gaming as any others, but you forget Sturgeon’s Law. The question is whether most of them will be relevant to the interests of people that are more familiar with series/titles on specialized consoles. Things like Persona, Tales or Tekken mobile games are tangentially related; mobile games by known developers are also noteworthy enough; and some few titles that are unique are worth noting. Which is pretty much the bulk of mobile coverage here.
This is getting sidetracked. Bottomlined, if Sony releases more news, I doubt those pieces will be left out uncovered here. Just let them come.
This is an odd accusation to direct at a site that posts more PlayStation Vita news than near anyone else on the English-speaking Internet, save for maybe the PS Blog. We’ve pushed games like Phantasy Star Online 2 and Project Diva F and Persona 4: Golden really, really hard.
We also go out of our way to cover more obscure titles for Vita, even when there aren’t any other huge games to talk about. I think you folks underestimate the time and effort it takes to translate and post news for a lot of those games, simply so that our Vita-owning readership doesn’t feel left out.
Oh, and we do post a lot of iOS news, as you may have noticed in recent months. :)
Its an observation, not an accusation, and you tend to post most of the Nintendo related news and you post a lot of it, so I’m not sure that feigning impartiality works in your case. Its fine to favour a console, most people do. But try and keep as much of your personal likes and dislikes out of headlines, that’s all.
For the record, I’m not the one who brought the Vita into this argument either, that was your mod and the gentleman he was chatting with. Which was both completely off-topic and had little to do with the conversation at hand.
I also post a lot of PS3/360 news and a lot of PC news, and I would argue that 99% of our headlines are very much free of our personal opinions. If you’re going to latch onto the 1%, I can’t help you there.
Which was both completely off-topic and had little to do with the conversation at hand.
That’s odd, because if any platform has scarce news, I wouldn’t expect it to be anything else among current ones – PSP, PS3 or 3DS. Maybe Wii, but it has been scarce for a while now anyway.
Let’s all hold hands and cry about semantics
Sorry dude, but how much enthusiasm can you show for companies that thrive on the latest recolor of CoD?
When Sony comes up with a successful franchise of it’s own, or Microsoft does something even slightly interesting with Halo, you’ll be the first one to see their fanboys overhype it and wet their panties, I assure you.
Nintendo gets hype because Nintendo has the legendary franchises, Nintendo gets enthusiasm because Nintendo has the soulful games that everyone has loved and given near-perfect scores despite the bias and corruption, Nintendo gets the love because it know to give it’s fans quality products.
The thing here is that you’re bitching at Nintendo for garnering all the roses, but guess what, if Nintendo gets the enthusiasm and the other companies don’t it’s not Nintendo’s fault, or the community’s it’s theirs.
The only thing that is unlimited in this world is emotion. Gamers have enough emotion and love to share between the three major companies, if they don’t it’s not their fault, or their favorite companie’s, it’s the fault of those who haven’t done anything to earn it.
Well, it’s supposed to look much better. One is a remake for a next gen console and the others are HD re-releases with some cleaned up textures
played this game only once when it first came out and i really enjoyed it back then, this look freaking gorgeous and i’ll be picking this up when i get a WiiU, just waiting for a few more games to come out first.
Wel, they do put a lot of effort for the game here. Not just a simple cash grab.(I am talking about you Silent Hill. O.O)
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That’s beautiful. I’m so happy I have a Wii U.
It doesn’t look as cel-shade-y as the original. Kinda on the fence here …
I was just about to say the same thing. I love the game and I’ll
probably play it again, but the improved lighting and added blooming do
seem to take away from the clean, hand-drawn look of the original. It’s
less “Disney classic” and more “Pixar animation”, so to speak.
And seriously, those original graphics could stand up to the test of time. They’re moving too much into the CG movie direction, which isn’t bad in its own right, but not one of the things that made this a classic of the ‘cel-shade’ technique.
Somehow,I thought they looked like characters from SM Galaxy or LBP.You know,plushie-like. Less celshaded,like you said. Although I liked anyway.
first thing i noticed, still looks good but i like the old cartooney feel
I know how you feel,this is probably the one game i would have liked just a half assed hd port(wide screen+hdmi support) for.
This doesn’t look very nice to me…whats with the shadows?
and dear god,bloom.
THE BLOOM, THE BLOOM! OH GOD IT’S EVERYWHERE!!!
I feel the same way…
Looks pretty sexy. I will probably definitely buy it.
When it came to HD re-releases, I always wondered which Nintendo we would get. Would we get business Nintendo that’s happy to re-sell their old games for every different system separately on the Virtual Consoles without adding anything of note? Or would we get the software Nintendo, that development firm famous for making their games SO well and carefully.
Looks like we got the good Nintendo, the Nintendo that lavishes their games with everything until they are just the way they want them.
Looks like I’m going to get a Wii U now.
Why is the term remake being thrown around? Sure it looks highly exceptional, but that doesn’t mean it’s a remake. Windwaker looked really good in HD from the start even without improved lighting and shadows. But it clearly uses the same models. It’s just a really good looking HD remaster enhanced with new lighting.
Calling it a remake is putting expectations too high.
It is apparently an enhanced remake. Besides, I don’t remember the models for Link and Tetra looking this smooth on GC, as good as it may have looked.
:P As opposed to a remake that has not been enhanced? A bit redundant. A remake is inherently enhanced in comparison to the original.
Yeah, I think the models have been retouched and look smoother. But even HD remasters do that, right?
The “enhanced” part seems to imply some new features or content, but that’s just my guess. We’ll see.
It uses new art assets, which makes it a remake.
I’ll have to see more to make a judgement like that, but at the moment, in my opinion, I can’t call it a remake when all that’s being “remade” are textures (and perhaps not all of them either).
They’re so shiny and bloomy that they look like the wax models you could collect from TIngle. I’ll be interested to see what the new content is, but I already feel they’re going about this all wrong.
I see your point . They look less cell-shaded and more smooth-shaded, almost like the Toon Link from SSBB. It does make me concerned about preserving the integrity of Windwaker’s unique cell-shaded graphics
OH MY GOD…
Mono’s new game AND this???Nintendo is on a roll!
To say that this looks beautiful would be an understatement.Incredible.
It looks amazing O_O
On another note, Remake =/= Remaster
I can’t say I’m surprised. Most HD remasters seem to be a very quick port job by a 3rd party. This is Ninty themselves ensuring it’s done justice. It’d be nice if more companies showed such passion and love for their older titles when re-releasing them.
I don’t even words.
It doesn’t look bad, but it hardly puts other HD remasters to shame. They just added a lot of bloom, which most of the time doesn’t get done in remasters. But it’s on a Nintendo system, so I get why the headline is the way it is.
It is perhaps better to play this, then play the original Windwaker and see the difference. I think it’s a bit more than bloom.
I have no urge to play either, quite honestly. I wouldn’t have even come to this article if the headline wasn’t editorializing, in which case I pretty much had to check out what was going on, only to be thoroughly unimpressed. Yes, it looks better than an N64 title (or Gamecube, whatever it was). That’s not hard to do. That’s two generations ago. It hardly looks even as good as something like Okami HD or Shadow of the Colossus HD or Metal Gear Solid 3 on the HD Collection. I guess if you want to compare it to RE4 HD or the Splinter Cell HD Collection, then yeah, it puts them to shame, but hyperbole is hyperbole.
I guess if you haven’t played Windwaker before, it’s hard for you to see the difference. Can’t do much convincing here.
One of the other reasons why people probably regard this as better than most remasters is the fact that HD Windwaker screenshots (courtesy of Dolphin emulator) have been out for a while now. That this Wii U version looks even better than that is what is impressing people to such an extent, regardless of how it looks in comparison to other remasters.
A remake looks better than an HD remastered… You don’t say…
I sure would hope that an HD REMAKE would put a REMASTER (aka PORT) to shame.
Hmmmm HD remake of WW is this going to be a downloadable title or a retail game? Kinda ify on this. I did want to replay this…
This looks kinda crappy. It’s not cel-shaded. That was the point of Wind Waker, which is still beautiful.
I think they should have just made a new “wind waker” instead of remaking the old one. For me it wont feel the same. I loved the old graphics and ripping that from the game is a real disappointment.
wounder why windwaker, and not Majora’s mask oh well this still look’s good
Probably because Windwaker’s assets aren’t all that dated compared to Majora’s Mask’s. It doesn’t require as much work?
I think if anything, Nintendo will keep the remake of Majora’s Mask for the 3DS, seeing as they have the tools to build it thanks to Ocarina of Time 3D.
I’m happier getting Wind Waker, it’s my favorite Zelda game.
Just be lucky Nintendo’s working their butts off on an HD REMAKE of Wind Waker.
So beautiful… Wind Waker is such an amazing game, and just recently I was thinking about how much I wanted to play it again, and the prospect of a 3DS port for it, and then this comes along. I wasn’t planning on ever getting a Wii U, but this and SMT X FE may force me to reconsider…
Here’s hoping they do like Sony and make this playable on both 3DS and Wii U. Very unlikely, but a guy can dream!
Wind Waker is hardly my favorite Zelda title, but I enjoyed it a lot (almost all of them are a great experience, one way or another) and I’m really excited for this.
My only thing is, I think they should add a bit more to the Great Sea. Whether more islands, more stuff to do or something. It got too open and lonely at times. For me, anyway. ;u;
(Which was pretty realistic and kind of a nice touch, but still a little too lonely.)
Now it’s time to listen to my friends who have still never played Wind Waker, shout it’s the worst Zelda game ever because it’s too cartoony.
I got one of them to admit it was cool looking before… but that was only because they didn’t realize it was Wind Waker, when I told him what it was, he automatically denounced it. I don’t get it, as long as a game is fun, who cares if it looks different or isn’t in HD.
Oh my GOD that looks BEAUTIFUL.
Considering how much of an update the graphics have had, I’m hoping this is not JUST a remaster but perhaps a REMAKE as well.
This may have sold me on a Wii U. Being able to play Wind Waker on the gamepad and essentially anywhere in my house is… Awesome.
Kind of reminds me of one of the “see this HD recreation of Zelda # by a fan using Unreal Engine!” screens some times surface.
And not because it looks unpolished, because it clearly doesn’t, this isn’t just a port. But because it looks like it has lost it’s original essence. Cell shaded WW looked more alive in my opinion.
But then again, before we ever saw a gameplay video, the reveal screens of the original WW didn’t do the final product any justice, so I guess I’ll just wait. Still, this looks beautiful, just not mind blowing. Probably the best looking HD version by any studio so far, hoping it blows my mind when it’s done.
like others mentioned, it does not seem to keep the look of the original.
this has more of a remake look to it, and seems to replace the celshade charm with very polished looks.
it in no way looks bad, just very different.
Oh…Oh my god. Yes.
Ehh…those graphics are kinda iffy. It doesn’t have as much of a nice cel-shaded look as the original, and there’s waaay too much bloom. Hopefully they’ll be able to work out some of those kinks before it releases, Wind Waker is one of my favorites.
I’ll preface my post by saying it does look gorgeous (although I do share the sentiment many have expressed that the cartoon-ish look of the original is sorta lost). But come on now..are we going to compare the treatment of a remake with a port? Really? It can’t put them to shame when they are two completely different things. Hence why one is a remake, the other is a mere port~.
That’s the kind of sensationalist stuff Class B sites like *** or ******** pull. I expect better from Siliconera~.
Not really diggin’ this…
Where is my Majora’s Mask remake…..
The enviroment look great!
But the characters….That detail-less cel-shading is not my style….
I’m pretty excited to get this. I’ve never been one to criticize graphics, but how bad could it be it’s one of my favorite Zelda titles.
So beautiful! :D
The bloom washing out the incredible visual pop of the original changes the feel of the game world … for the worse, in my opinion.
Oh come on, WW was the game that least needed a visual upgrade, its art direction was so good that it still looks good today and all this bloom hurts my eyes. They should have remade something like MM instead.
However, if they include the removed dungeons (due to time constraints according to Aonuma) and in turn remove the replacement-triforce hunt then they will have my money.
Indeed Wind Waker was already fantastic visually…
So wait… do the 1080p screenshots suggest native 1080p? They don’t look super clean but that looks to be the result of high compression rather than upscaling.
and that is how you do a hd remake
ruining a classic game’s art style with bloom lighting? lol okay
maybe youve never seen screenshots of a game not yet released. i can pretty much guarantee actual gameplay wont look like that.
Canadian here. So much bloom I thought spring came early.
one of my more fav zelda titles that pleasantly surprised me and i waited in line for day one. not my fav but has a very special place in my heart.
i hope they HD remake finding 7 triforces as well…….
It looks beautiful. Though, if it doesn’t have new contents in it, I’ll stick to my original version which was so damn hard to find again after its release.
well, im not gonna complain, because this remake is beautiful. i loved the original and it was beautiful as well, but i dont think the remake is diminished at all because of it’s updated look.
looks great but i still hope they remake majoras mask.
These images aren’t even part of the full version. I’m sure that by E3, they will look better, especially for the character models!
I don’t like it.
I really don’t get all the complaints.
The original had this feel-good effect with its cute,”happy” art style and this one seems to have it tenfold.It almost feels therapeutical just to look at those screens.
I think people need to focus less on the details and more on the general feel of the new art style.Personally i think that the general feel is much improved and i’m someone who considers the original WW as my favourite Zelda ever in terms of art.
I nearly lost it when I saw this title xD Priceless
Yeah, not passing this one up for the WORLD. The improvement is a sight to behold. I know its less cel-shaded(and I really liked that) but I godda admit… I’m dying to see what everything looks like now. This game had SO MUCH to see.
…Yes, The Sea, but MORE than that lol
Everyone is acting like this somehow make WWGC not exist…