Tales of Xillia 2, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Miss Sales Target

By Ishaan . May 9, 2013 . 12:00pm

Namco Bandai released their financial results today, and included are sales figures for some of the company’s notable games. Of particular interest are the sales of Tales of Xillia 2, which has sold 500,000 copies in Japan as of March 31st, 2013.


At 500,000 sold, Tales of Xillia 2 has fallen short of Namco Bandai’s expectations of the game. Back in November, Namco shared that they expected to move 650,000 copies of Xillia 2 by the end of March.


Meanwhile, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 has missed its goals as well. Namco hoped to sell 1.7 million copies of the game worldwide by March 31st, and have only managed to sell 1.5 million copies.


On a brighter note, Run for Money Tousouchuu, Namco’s quirky 3DS game based on a TV show in Japan, has exceeded expectations. Namco hoped to sell 300,000 copies of the game by the end of March, and instead ended up selling 520,000 copies. As of last week, actual sales of Run for Money in Japan were at 478,000.


Here’s the full list of Namco’s sales figures for the fiscal year ended March 2013:


(J/US/EU) Tekken Tag Tournament 2 – 1.5 million

(J/US/EU) Soulcalibur V – 1.05 million

(J/US/EU) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations – 760,000

(US/EU) Naruto Shippiden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 – 1 million

(J) Tales of Xillia 2 – 500,000

(J) Run for Money Tousouchuu – 520,000

(J) Taiko Drum Master: The Little Dragon and the Mysterious Orb – 470,000


  • Tre W

    Sad to hear about TTT2. It’s actually quite content rich, and has a DLC strategy that does NOT screw over the consumer.

    I would wager that the only problem was that they had us wait so long for the console port. It’s too easy for the common person to lose interest in a game that Japan keeps all to itself in arcades, then has its console port shipped out in the middle of a very crowded fall lineup.

    • Tee Niitris

      It was a combination of a lot of factors, some of which couldn’t be helped. Marketing could have been better for one. Capcom had released SFxT some months before, so a good number of people got their Tekken fix through that with the novelty of SF being in it too. Tekken itself has a higher skill curve than in past generations which would also repel people away from the game.

      I believe there were others but to save time I won’t mention them. I’m not sure the arcade wait was one of them though.

  • ギャビン

    Namco Bandai almost did NO promotion for SoulCalibur V when the game was released. It’s a shame because it’s so high quality.

    • Raharu95

      You are kidding, right?

    • Christopher Nunes

      That game had good gamplay and an amazing Character Creation, but bad content. I was disappointed with it.

      I kinda stopped after beating the Story Mode and the Online Disconnect drove me nuts when I had 3 or more bars.

    • Firekitty

      It looked good and the character creation were great, but the story mode was half-assed…or maybe even third-assed, given that they apparently only finished 1/3 of what they wanted to do.

      If you’re going to focus on online content to the exreme detriment of single-player, then there’s really no point from the consumer’s PoV to switch to the newer game…especially when that new game removes several popular styles, brutally cuts down the moveset for the remaining ones (Xianghua, what did they DO to you?)…and then fills in the vacant slots with mimics.

      Don’t get me wrong, I think having mimics with a more focused set of styles is a neat feature, but stuff like that should be an extra, not something you do because OH, CRAP, you need to come up with two more characters ASAP.

      • Raharu95

        It was stated that the story is about 1/4 the original amount, if I remember correctly X3

  • Ethan_Twain

    Well that’s not disastrous at least. Tekken missed by only .2 million units, and Tales probably only by a few hundred thousand too. I mean, obviously it would be better if their projections had been hit, but we’re not looking at some horrible flop on the scale of Medal of Honor or Dead Space 3 – games that undersold projections by a margin of millions.

  • This is their first negative posting in awhile. Everything has been positive before

    • ElAbuelo69

      It’s always that way. Everything on the Internet seems one way but then BAM! Reality sucker punches the shit out of us.

      Reality sux and we are a minority.

  • Now I just want to how Imas: Shiny Festa did (slightly joking).

  • eilegz

    hopefully this dont mean that xillia 2 dont come to the west….

    • Pyrotek85

      That’s been my worry, I’m hopeful it will. As others have said, if they didn’t wait so long to localize or port it wouldn’t be as bad I think. People read about whatever new thing that’s being released in Japan, but we don’t see it (or even know if we’ll get it) for years sometimes. Sometimes importing is an option, but if you don’t know the language you really miss out when it comes to dialogue heavy games.

    • IshimaruKaito

      took the words right out of my mouth

    • 果林

      what will effect xillia 2 coming to the west will mostly be based on Xillia 1 sales in the west

      • That would be too logical. The Japanese business men are going to base their forcast on Japanese sales and not bring it over.

        • NTaiyokun

          That sure as hell didn’t stop Project X Zone, which only sold around 100k in Japan.

        • Ladius

          Project X Zone and Time and Eternity’s localizations prove that isn’t true, though, and even Ni no Kuni could have been left behind considering its Japanese sales were pretty disappointing.

          Namco has changed in the last three years, thankfully.

          • VitaminC

            Hideo Baba surely hasn’t changed though… his logic behind not localizing Hearts R and Innocence R (especially when he wishes everyone could play Hearts) is faulty. Games sell a system, systems don’t sell a system.

          • Pyrotek85

            I wish I could play Hearts too. If only it were localized…

          • Importing the DS version because I have a lite was nigh one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

          • Pyrotek85

            I wouldn’t mind importing titles if not for the language barrier. Some games have little text so it doesn’t matter much, but RPGs have a lot of dialogue by design. It’s not like I can just learn Japanese in my spare time, I would if it were that easy.

          • Ladius

            As much as I would be overjoyed to play Hearts R, his decision makes sense.

            Tales is one of the biggest jrpg series alongside Trails in terms of script size, not to mention they have far more dubbed dialogues than any Trails game (except Zero no Kiseki Evolution). This means localizations are extremely long and costly compared to pretty much any game localized on Vita till now, and the fact that most of them are either upgraded ports like Disgaea 3 or Persona 4 Golden or games with short scripts like Muramasa (whose translations is being redone, even if it’s a port) is pretty telling.

            Even more, Tales localizations are usually handled by 8-4, and having Hearts R localized could slow down Xillia 2 or the next PS3 Tales game’s localization, something that won’t make any sense considering the PS3’s user base and how now that’s by far the most profitable venue for the series in the west.

          • Shadowysea Clearwater

            the ps3 would likely sell maybe 40k more than the vita but the most profitable in the west? lol you must be joking. tales games on sony systems sell like utter crap outside japan to the point that a crappy wii escort title sold double what a mother ship title on the ps3 did. If anything the 360 and wii have proven they are double and close to triple the profit of a ps3 release.

          • Spirit Macardi

            “Namco has changed in the last three years, thankfully.”

            Klonoa, Tower of Druaga, Mappy, and several other franchises would care to dispute that x3

          • Ladius

            This has nothing to do with the extremely noticeable change in their jrpg localization output, though. No company is perfect, but Namco has done a complete turnover from their pre-2011 stance.

        • Well honestly the game is a little bit too much like Xillia irrespective of the combat

        • Aristides

          Sometimes if a game doesn’t sell well in japan they may bring it overseas to see if they can fill the sales void. It really depends on the company and the titles in question so jumping to conclusions at this point is pointless, specially considering the the first one has’t been released yet.

  • malek86

    These numbers are just for the 2012 fiscal year, I guess? Because I remember Namco saying that SC5 had surpassed 1.3 million units sold. I guess that was lifetime, as the game did come out in January so it had one extra quarter in FY2011.

    Anyway, I thought their forecast for Xillia 2 was going to be difficult to meet, based on the first week sales. TTT2 actually did a bit better than I thought, although I guess it wasn’t enough.

  • Funny because ToX2 >>>>>>>> ToX1

    • Anime10121

      Got the same feeling from what I’ve seen too. I also like the character designs better in the sequel.

      • ToX1 characters even feel a lot more developed here x-x

    • Kelohmello

      Are you saying that as someone who’s actually played the game?

      • It’s pretty unanimously agreed upon with importers. …so I believe it.

      • Ferrick

        i played the game and what wildarms said is pretty much true in most aspect

      • Yeah Wildy beat it and I’m currently playing it and definitely agree~

        • mikasa is mine!

          • You’ve got some silly dreams~

        • Bobby Jennings

          I beat it as well. Sequel is so much better. But it should be, right?

      • Both games,Xillia 2 is awesome, and i can even say this is the best tales of games i’ve played, and i pretty much played most of them xD of course, doesnt means others are bad, but this one even made me cry, like 3 times, I’VE NEVER CRIED IN A TALES OF GAME

        • Eh really? Its better than Hearts/Innocence’s Story that almost was but never is, Vesperia AND Symphonia?

          • I’d say it’s on par with Hearts and a bit above Vesperia, story and character wise, which were my favorites before ToX2. A lot more mature than both, though. Game design, graphics, soundtrack and gameplay are better than any other Tales before though. Character development is also the best thanks to personal character episodes between the main chapters.

            Also do not be fooled by the silent protag thing, Ludger is a fantastic main character with a great personality~

          • I need to play this game .-.

          • I dunno about it being on par with heart tho, i would say with Vesperia close or even graces, graces char were a bit weak, but the future arc made the game feel so complete, really helped a lot…. SPOILERS => hearts was awesome until the half part imo, after it, it became just cool but felt weird, shing loses so much umm, spotlight? he doesn’t feels as important or protagonist as before the first half, he barely says lines in the events (when i say first half is before you know who gets out of him)

          • Graces f had the best romance no doubt, but the story, while I enjoyed it wasn’t as good as Xillia 2 or Vesperia. I said on par with Hearts cause Hearts was my favorite Tales game and I really loved the story, I admit that it got a bit confusing later on, though. As you know I haven’t played the Vita version yet tho, so not sure how it all changed.

          • Yeah, they changed a lot of things in this game, the story has some cool story twist, feels more mature, characters feel much more real, there are, as raioh said, characters episode where you get closer to them and is awesome, and there are really epic decisions in most events, it’s hard to explain with words, i wish it could get localized fast so everyone could see by themselves

          • They’re really trying to get me to buy a Vita eh^

            But I hate those D pads and analog sticks on the vita. the PSP was more ergonomic

          • Bobby Jennings

            I think he was talking about Xillia 2 there… :P

          • Eh? Ah well who the hell needs a front and back touch screen anyway. So freaking weird

          • Bobby Jennings


    • Kenzor

      But ToX2 is also majorly copy paste from ToX1.
      ToX2 may be a good experience, but it’s not a good AND fresh experience.

      • Think of it as an expansion pack then.

        • Kenzor

          It isn’t a expansion pack though, it’s a completely separate game.

          • Thats many times better. But we get more bang for our buck this way.

      • Pyrofrost

        Did someone forget to tell you that it’s a direct sequel, taking place in the same exact world?

        • Eeyup

        • Kenzor

          ToP -> ToP sequels
          ToD -> ToD2
          ToS -> ToS2

          Point is?

          • Pyrofrost

            Correction, there is no Tales of Symphonia 2. There is a Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, which is a sequel/spin-off, that does not take place in the mainstay universe.
            Same goes for Tales of Phantasia and the Narikiri games.

        • Dont even bother, he has no idea of what he is talking about, anyone that had played it can know how wrong he is

          • Pyrofrost

            Indeed, I’ve played it myself. While many locations, many mobs, and many characters/NPCs are the same; they have also introduced new locations, mobs, character/NPCs, and etc.

            I really don’t get what all the fuss is about. This is common in a direct sequel which takes place in the same universe and in the same world. It’s not like Tales of Xillia ended with the two worlds being destroyed and all life being eradicated. I really don’t understand what the fuck all the naysayers could have been expecting here

      • Hahahahhahahahahahaha

        HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA, sorry but i can’t agree at all with you, to a point is funny… Did you play it? I can’t believe you did if you are saying things like that

        *spoilers in the first paragraph below*

        Yeah, all the FIRST continent might had been a copy paste, but the other one has some completely new areas without counting the other dimension maps, also, the way to advance the game by paying the debt and doing characters episodes…. Doing quests to get money, random events around… Oh yeah! and the first silent character in a tales of game, with choices you can do and multiple endings? OHH OHH! and 3 different weapons to use with him at the same time on battles, and the old chars also have some new artes, because ToX1 barely put link arts with chars other than Jude and Milla….

        Also the friendship system where if you have enough friendship with a certain character in a certain event, you get a bonus scene with that character.

        Nope, not good and fresh experience at all

        Gameplay isn’t far from ToX1 yeah, but they changed completely the system to get skills, with ludger’s 3 weapons you can pretty much enjoy and awesome new experience as well, adding new skills to chars and 2 new chars too, its an awesome experience.
        Also, even if fights are close to ToX1, in ToX1 it wasn’t exploited well enough, with having level cap at lvl 99 and just one after game boss with a really small dungeon, and no cameo fights…

        • Kenzor

          “Gameplay isn’t far from ToX1 yeah”
          “Also, even if fights are close to ToX1”

          That wall of text and you contradict yourself in two lines anyway.

          • Close is not the same, my young watson

    • Really? I was really interested at first from the concept art, but alarm bells went off when it was announced as Xillia 2. Sure enough, many of the reviews I’ve read have said the gameplay is decent but the game suffers from too many re-used assets.

      Destiny 2 was neat and all, but that was a decade ago. I think the poorly-reviewed Symphonia 2 is fresher in the fans’ minds.

      • Nope dont worry, i’ll copy paste something i said above without the small spoiler i put it so you can imagine a bit how it is, this isnt a destiny 2 or symphonia 2, i would even dare to say that Tales of xillia 1 was made for tales of xillia 2 xD.

        You’ve probably seen the “would you destroy the world for a little girl” stuff namco bandai have been said ever since they announced ToX2, that is because you can go, i wont say much, to other dimensions, these other dimensions has other maps, different situations, it is really interesting to see, also, the way to advance the game by paying the debt and doing characters episodes, is really an unique experience…. Doing quests to get money, random events around… The first silent character in a tales of game, with choices you can do and there are multiple endings, 3 different weapons to use with him at the same time on battles (let me tell you, is awesome), and the old chars also have some new artes, because ToX1 barely put link arts with chars other than Jude and Milla….

        Also the friendship system, you get them by doing link artes with chars, their char episodes, or with choices you get in skits, where as you rise it you get items/skills from that char (and at a point the combined mystic arte with ludger) and~ if you have enough friendship with a certain character in a certain event, you get a bonus scene with that character.

        And the story, is really awesome, the game puts you in crazy spots and makes you choose (sometimes too omfg) decisions, with this game i felt that the tales of games really gave a step forward.

        I didn’t like jude much in the first game, but here? He kinda became sort of Ludger’s closest and best friend, and he was way too awesome, really, damn, im so glad i played ToX1 because thanks to it i could enjoy ToX2 so much xD

        • Bobby Jennings


          Gaius and Myuze as allies. BEST EVER.

        • You make it sound really cool afterall. Thanks for the write-up.

  • Lightthrower

    They missed their target sales, but not by much so it’s still succesfull IMO.

  • Crevox

    The majority of Xillia 2 is a reuse of content from the first game, so it’s their own fault.

    I’m not hating either, I own both 1 and 2.

    • Bobby Jennings


  • Wait, what about 2nd Super Robot Wars Original Generation for the Playstation 3? Namco Bandai published that game as well back in late 2012, so where’s the info about that game’s shipment figures? I only know that it sold more than 220K in its initial week.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    Run for Money Tousouchuu, the little game that could. Run for money, that is. ;P

  • Tekken is like the black sheep of fighting games, so…. yeah. I mean, it has Devil Jin, if Jason Schreier was going to complain about art drawn by a highschooler, it’s a muscular fighter with spikey hair and black angel wings that’s the height of high school pretentiousness and hilarity.

  • This is not good. Japan does not understand the Western Market. Look at how Bandai killed Bandai america by forcing single dvd like Japan rather than boxsets that US wants. I’ve got a bad feeling they are going to base the loss for Japan as the US and this game is not coming over. Even though they could do a cheap digital only no dub port and top 500,000 sales easy with as big of a market as the US and PAL is.

    • Firekitty

      I wish, just once that one of these larger companies would try a subbed-only digital release for a game like this, rather than just throwing up their hands and not translating it at all. It seems to work out well enough for NISA and Aksys and Xseed.

      I know they’d inevitably lose a few sales from digital-haters and people who MUST have a dub, but surely they’d be able to make up for that, between the extra sales from people who don’t support dub-only games, and the reduced cost and especially *time* to localize it.

      • That’s the way I feel about Valkyria Chronicles 3. Surely they could make money from a vita compatible release.

      • Slayven19

        Well to be fair NISA,Aksys and Xseed games sale nowhere near the amount that namco and atlus profit from sales. You also have to remember that dubbing is actually cheaper sometimes than keeping the actual sub, just ask atlus and xseed.

      • Ladius

        The companies you mentioned deal with extremely niche games that appeal to a tiny niche in the jrpg fanbase, as sad as it is their sales are a far cry from what Tales is able to sell, and a whole different world compared to real mainstream series like Final Fantasy.

        That’s why Tales needs to be fully localized: it isn’t a big hitter, but it can also hope to sell far more than the Ateliers or Neptunias out there (which, by the way, also have English dubs, albeit not for every scene voiced in Japanese).

    • Ladius

      I fear you have the numbers completely wrong if your 500k expectation was associated to Xillia 2, pretty much no Tales game ever sold that much in the west, even with complete localizations and physical releases. Graces f sold 70k in the US, for instance.

      The US and Europe are indeed bigger markets than Japan, but Japan is still a far bigger market than both for jrpgs, except for a small number of extremely mainstream series like Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts.

  • NTaiyokun

    Well at least SOMEONE’S being realistic about sales forecasts. At least this one I can understand.

    • Barrylocke89

      Y-you mean you didn’t think Tales of Xillia 2 was going to sell 5 million copies?!

      C’mon man, you gotta have faith!

  • Hopefully they make an effort to dub their game properly

    • Firekitty

      We already know they’re not including the original audio, so no chance of that.

      • Hraesvelgr

        That… doesn’t make sense?

        • They should merge the games and release them in America. Or at the very least put both games in a single package

      • CirnoLakes

        Well, according to that recent article on Kotaku, it would seem that Hideo Baba is at least considering the option of dual audio.

        Which is quite a victory in and of itself. It means that dual audio might be possible in the future.

    • Ladius

      Tales games have always had some of the best English dub in the genre, you may not like them but they’re extremely solid as far as jrpg localizations go.

      • You must not know what good acting is. They have never had consistent or decent voices

  • Hatsuaki

    I’m actually a bit surprised at TOX2’s sales too. I was expecting a bit higher, tbh. Though I have no doubt most people were thrown off by Ludger’s silent system and perhaps the choice system; not to mention that the battle system hasn’t changed much from the previous entry despite having had major changes. Oh well.

    There’s always next time, Baba.

    • Ladius

      The battle system has changed, but even before that you should consider how Xillia 2 is the second best selling game in the series in the last five years. It wasn’t as big as Xillia, but it’s far from disappointing.

  • This is strange…. I have beaten ToX2 twice so far, and in my opinion this game is in every way better than the first one :X maybe it is ToX1 fault, as that game was not bad, but it was not exceptional as well, it was just good in a sense and you could feel that it was indeed rushed to make it on time for 15th anniversary.

    Well if someone got biased with ToX2 after playing ToX than to bad for them, I really really enjoyed ToX2 and as I usually don’t care about trophies I do want to have 100% there! :O

  • XYZ_JolteonZ980
    • I just got done going through a lot of those older articles myself while trying to piece things together. I believe what we have in Namco’s updated figures are actual sales numbers, not shipments. I’ve updated the report to reflect that.

  • Perhaps both Xillias will do better in the West. I know I’ll be buying copies =)

  • fireemblembeast

    Well…at least they weren’t that far below expectations! ^_^; …right?
    I hope Xillia 1 and 2 do well here.

  • Nitraion

    See below comment so the problem of ToX 2 is Recycled game huh…
    Well… Naruto storm game, Neptunia V, SMT game (their monster and dungeon gameplay), Monster hunter even Tekken Tag 2 kinda recycled from Teken 6 IMO not mentioned Dynasty warriors game and of course random FPS game……

    But everyone still love it so i have no problem with recycled thing…
    Besides its Tales game….
    all i can say is I NEED IT

    • Ladius

      Yeah, I noticed this trend, too. Tales games often get attacked for reasons that wouldn’t even be mentioned with other series, I imagine this has to do with the way some of its western fans try to make the series and every new entry sound bad even before it’s even out.

      • Nitraion

        Finally someone speak out my language… yeah you do realize right creativity now is expansive and rare now….

        in the past people is excited when new game come out because gaming idea and concept is still baby in that time and there so much thing that never developer do before….
        now most of thing have been done before developer kinda hard to look “new” or unique thing its either be trashed or be praised with new idea… now if developer have “right” formula they just have 3 option with their sequel:
        1. Use current formula with new and little polished with gameplay here and there from idea or reccomendation from fans or forum(if they just released it usually turn to be DLC or patch)
        2. Making completely new game system with risk getting trashed if it turn out to be bad
        3. Lastly Making “Ultimate” version of the game that just keep everything else just throw some new character or new mechanic or art style or stage or whatever

        My favorite will be always number 2 but number 1 is no bad either if they really polished the system and keep what we like

  • Slayven19

    TTT2 did better than I thought because fighters in general aren’t doing so hot right now in some places. Sad but I guess there’s just to many out right now for even the diehards to keep up.

  • Alex

    All the more Reason to bring Xillia 2 west.

  • CirnoLakes

    At least they didn’t miss their desired profits by a large margin. With Tales, they still made more than 3/4ths of their goal.

    Bring Tales of Xillia 2 over here, I’ll do my best to make up for those lost profits!

  • So it had crossed 500K on Feb. 5 and now it has shipped only 500K? Does not compute. Regardless, it must have made a healthy profit since they re-used a lot of assets from ToX1. Also, it was bold to expect every ToX owner to buy ToX2.

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