Devil Survivor 2 Needs 1,800 Pre-Orders To Be Released In Europe

By Ishaan . July 27, 2013 . 11:00am

 

 

Devil Survivor 2 will be released in Europe if publisher Ghostlight see enough pre-orders for the game. Pre-orders were supposed to go live this week, but didn’t due to a pending final approval of the package that Ghostlight hope to release.

 

While you wait for that to happen, Ghostlight have provided details on what their plans for the game are. They hope to release Devil Survivor 2 in the following packages:

 

Option 1: Standalone Release

  • Devil Survivor 2 (DS)
  • This factory sealed edition will be available to all PAL territories and anyone pre-ordering from us will have the option to include their name in the DS2 manual.
  • Pre-Order price £24.99/€29.99

 

Option 2: Devil Survivor Bundle

  • Devil Survivor 2 (DS) & Devil Survivor Overclocked (3DS) with £10.00 discount!
  • Both games will be factory sealed and as with Option 1, anyone pre-ordering the bundle will have the option to include their name in the DS2 manual. Regrettably, we will not be able to ship this bundle to Germany due to an existing distribution agreement.
  • Pre-Order price £49.98/€59.98 (usual price £59.98/€69.98)

 

Here’s the important part, though: In order to break even on Devil Survivor 2’s manufacturing costs, Ghostlight will need to reach a total 1,800 paid pre-orders between the two above packages, and these pre-orders will only remain open for one month. If they don’t reach their quota, everyone that pre-ordered Option 1 will receive a refund. If you pre-ordered Option 2, you’ll receive a £24.99 refund—and get Devil Survivor: Overclocked at a £10.00 discount.

 

Ghostlight aim to have Devil Survivor 2 out in Europe by the end of September.


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  • Mavalex

    …..That is probably gonna be a really big manual with the name thing

  • Mavalex

    …..That is probably gonna be a really big manual with the name thing

  • Phlo

    Edit: Apparently I can’t read.

    • Barrylocke89

      I think it’s safe to assume that most people that are pre-ordering the 2+Overclocked pack don’t actually own Overclocked yet. The 2 people would be getting their money back, and the 2+Overclocked people at least get the consolation prize of a cheaper Overclocked.

    • Enzo

      You do know that if someone were to pick the second option, they would be opting in getting Overclocked anyway?

  • http://vanilladice.deviantart.com/ Dice

    I don’t know what to say other than (for better *and* for worse) this seems like a desperate attempt to get people on board to give out games.
    So yay? But hmmmmm….

  • Pockystix

    yeah, this is a pretty dirty tactic.

    basically holding the game ransom, with demands that even if met, could still just be a maybe on releasing the game.

    Honestly, localization teams, developers and their ilk need to cut this kind of crap out, otherwise they’ll just keep losing more potential customers.

    • FitzpatrickPhillips

      Dirty tactic? How about you look at things realistically. You want them to release a game and lose money, hurting the company? If people want it, it won’t be problem. A Localization company’s main goal is to make money. If they can’t do that, games won’t be localized. This is just a way to ensure that they don’t lose anything and anybody wants the game is able to receive it.

    • Herok♞

      Its not a maybe if they get 1,800 preorders the game gets released and that isn’t even that many copies when you think about it. Or would you just throw money away to put something no one wants on shelves just for it to sit there?

    • shadowind

      If what Ghostlight is doing is a dirty tactic, then I’m Andrew WK! And may I say that what you’re saying is complete and utter bullcrap. I’ve bought games from these guys before and they always update and answer questions within a reasonable time on their FB and Twitter accounts.

      So unless you know what you’re talking about, I’d seriously look at taking back what you said unless you want a lot of angry EU gamers after your blood.

      • Nightmare637

        whos Andrew WK?

        • shadowind

          Tell me you’re joking, right?

          If not, here’s a link to his Wiki entry:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_WK

          He’s the guy famous for the “Party Hard” song that came out in the early Noughties.

          • Nightmare637

            I’m noy big on music, or celeberty’s in general.
            thanks for the article though.

  • ragingmerifes

    It’s best to wait for Break Code.

    • Torraint

      NDS owners deserve to have the original version.. and not every one of them have a 3ds. sir

      • ragingmerifes

        I wasn’t trying to speak for everyone.

      • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

        Apparently 1/6 of DS install base does

    • Enzo

      There isn’t even a guarantee that game is going to be able to get localized.

  • Lord Búho

    It’s a great game and I hope it gets released in Europe, but with those dirty tactics Europeans are better off importing the US version now than gambling it out with a publisher who doesn’t even have faith in the game.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

      GOOD LORD PEOPLE READ PAST ARTICLE ON THIS BEFORE JUMPING INTO CONCLUSION.

      http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/14/ghostlight-looking-into-devil-survivor-2s-release-in-europe/

      • Lord Búho

        so?

        • M’iau M’iaut

          So we ask our readers to think before posting and recognize what they are posting about. Troll posts can be done elsewhere.

          • Lord Búho

            Fair enough, trolling wasn’t my intention though. *scratches head*

        • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

          So let say you bought a license to publish a game then suddenly you find out that no retailer in Europe…or at least in the UK aren’t interested in stocking it? what would you do? leave it in the store room for it to rot or take the chance to get little profit by any means necessary?

          Seriously if you been following the situation for this game in Europe then you wouldn’t be saying those kind of things. Then again you probably live somewhere in North America to even care for the localization situation in Europe.

          • Lord Búho

            I live in México, so yeah, you got that right, I shouldn’t be commenting on Europe localization as it doesn’t concerns me, I apologize if you felt offended by my comment.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            It’s ok, not offended at all.

          • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

            Seriously, no retailers in this country will stock standard DS games anymore. They stopped even before Devil Survivor 2 was released in the US.

    • Enzo

      -facepalm-

  • Chris Yuen

    This method is kinda “…eh…” but I kind of wished that Sega would have used something like this to gauge interest for a localized Vita port of Valkyria Chronicles 3: Extra Edition. I would sure love to jump on that. DS2 at this point of time is probably a bit too late. Interest might have waned.

    Most of them who probably wanted Devil Survivor 2 would have probably imported it from the US already, since DS games are not region-locked. Just speculating here, but assuming that there’s ever going to be a localized version of Devil Survivor 2: Break Record, Ghostlight might probably use something along the lines of “Devil Survivor 2 on DS didn’t generate enough interest, which is why we are not bringing it over”.

    Hopefully that wouldn’t come true…cuz I hope European fans get their hands on Devil Survivor 2:BR too.

  • SirRichard

    It’s disconcerting that a niche publisher wanting to release a game at no real profit to themselves as long as they don’t take a hit on it is considered a “dirty tactic” amongst some people. Ghostlight have been very honest about this one; they can’t get it onto store shelves, and with Break Record’s existence and the gap between the US and EU release, there’s no guarantee they have a big enough audience to justify a full print run.

    This isn’t “there are only 1800 copies”, this isn’t trying to hustle more money out of people (the game’s going for a bit under the regular DS RRP and considerably under the 3DS average RRP), it’s a small niche publisher wanting to release a game to an audience without putting themselves under unnecessary financial strain. Considering that there’s not even a guarantee they could get Break Record any more (with the NISA deal and all), they could’ve just not bothered.

    But they’re giving it a chance and seeing if they could swing it, and that’s better than what most of the industry would do. The Devil Survivor pair have had a very dodgy, aggravating journey to Europe with lots of failures from all sides, but this certainly isn’t one of them.

    • The Watcher

      wut

    • Guest

      Well DS games are region free after all, Germany and Europe could just import the NA version if Ghostlight’s kickstarter doesn’t succeed

    • Guest

      Well DS games are region free after all, Germany and Europe could just import the NA version if Ghostlight’s kickstarter doesn’t succeed

    • shadowind

      I feel sorry for Ghostlight as they’ve improved their reputation quite a bit over the past few years, unlike Atlus USA…

      • shadowind

        I see the Atlas USA sheeple are at it again with all the down votes even though I’m just telling the truth about their bad reputation where Europe is concerned.

        • shadowind

          Yup, I definitely seem to have hit a raw nerve with the Atlus USA sheeple with the further downvoting.
          Why can’t you sheeple accept the truth in what I’m saying about Atlus and their non-relationship with Europe or do you only care about the North American market getting games by them and screw the PAL territories?

          Oh, and before I forget, if you don’t like my opinions on Atlus USA, I couldn’t care less as they’re my opinions and mine alone and I know that quite a few people here agree with me.

  • M’iau M’iaut

    Come on guys, back of the dirty tricks vitriol. This is kickstarter folks, with an actual promise that will be kept. If this was Xseed saying we need $X USD up front and you’ll get your TiTs games, the response would be 180.

    • Chris Yuen

      Or Senran Kagura Burst/Shinovi Versus.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

        hmmm…nah

        • MrSirFeatherFang

          wat, but I like boobies

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            Well I heard those game are pretty good but I rather not want to own…uh such a game that involves loads of boobs. You know I got the internet for that.

          • MrSirFeatherFang

            That’s exactly what I did when we didn’t get Criminal Girls. Man we think a like! :D

          • ShadowDivz

            Exactly!
            Senran Kagura is about no longer having to stop playing your game to go look up some boobs.
            Now, the two are in the same location.
            The palm of your hand.

            …No pun intended.

          • Elvick

            So don’t buy them…

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            I’m pretty sure I said I wouldn’t want to own such a game meaning I WON’T BUY IT….duh doy

      • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

        The other Tits game.

    • LaserVision

      Wait. Are you saying trying to break even is not a dirty trick? It’s the dirtiest trick there is! How dare they want to keep the lights on in the office, or pay the internet bill! Greedy.

      It’s pretty impressive how there are so many gamers who have no idea how the real world works.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

        oh dear…

  • Shane Guidaboni

    It’s been out for so long already that it doesn’t seem worth it. Give the people Break Code instead.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      What if I don’t have a 3DS? :(

      • Shane Guidaboni

        That’s something to consider, but to be fair, the DS is now dead and the 3DS has taken over, which is why Ghostlight is asking for a certain amount of pre-orders to justify doing this. I know it sucks as a European to own a 3DS because of region coding :/ I feel for you guys.

        • MrSirFeatherFang

          Actually I don’t live in Europe and I do have a 3DS, but I was just asking :D
          Thanks for the kind response

  • ChiffonCake

    I can’t help but feel sorry for Ghostlight. What with people thinkining that this is a “dirty tactic” and that thing with Devil Survivor Overclocked a while ago, it seems that they can’t catch a break.

    • TrevHead

      I agree, sure I can understand PAL gamers generally been pissed off over having to almost beg to get a localisation that the US got ages ago.

      However most of my sceptism is aimed at Altus for delaying this for so long and to Nintendo for not making changes to their archaic localisations rules so that niche PAL games can be speeded up in some way.

      However I can’t blame GhostLight for doing this, most publishers would have washed their hands on the DS version at this point, they aren’t a charity so can’t be expected to publish a game at a loss and this does provide a means for the game to come out.

      Class of Heroes 2 was quite similar and that turned out quite well. Westerners got the game on PSN and collectors got a rare game for their collection. Everybody wins.

      IMO GL should be playing up the fact that this PAL release is a ltd collectors edition, then some ppl will be willing to double dip.

  • Blackikun

    why can Set 2 not shippd to germany? WHY MUST I LIVE IN THIS FUCK GERMANY >..<

  • James Williams

    Why not just do the updated 3DS version instead to go along with overclocked, there’s no point in releasing a DS game when the improved version is right on the horizon.

    • SirRichard

      Because there’s no guarantee that they’ll get it. NISA have secured a deal on all of Atlus’ future games to do on a case by case basis, and it’s doubtful that they’ll just hand off Break Record to someone else.

      Plus, all their work on the DS version is already done, and they don’t want to make people wait much longer than they have already had to.

      • James Williams

        It’s a shame it’s like that but it’s been far too long and DS games no longer have the hold they did now the 3DS is out.

        I really hope NISA can just bring in Break Record though over here.

        • shadowind

          I take it you got sent the memo that not everybody has a DS or if they do, they don’t want to import the US version and would rather support Ghostlight instead.

          • James Williams

            How can you not have a 3DS now though, do you not enjoy games?

          • shadowind

            I do enjoy games. I have over 70 PS3 games, About 20 or so PS2 games, some of which are signed, about 10 or so DS games and various Wii, Vita and XBox games as well plus a few PSOne and Japanese Saturn games.
            I don’t own a 3DS as I have too many games to finish to bother buying one just yet, that plus I’d rather wait until a preowned 3DS XL goes down to under £100 before I buy one eventually and also when being able to make it that I can play import games on a EU one without difficulty.

  • Tienron

    but….it makes sense they just reassurance that they will get money i think that’s fair….

  • Ty Arnold

    This seems much better than Capcom’s usual tactic, which is to say “We’ll release this if it does well enough,” and when the product becomes a hit, they still say “But it didn’t sell as well as we wanted it to, so the series is over.”

    At least you have an actual number to strive towards here.

  • Skye Johnson

    I don’t… really see how this is a dirty tactic? Releasing a game that wouldn’t get bought by people and having to take a loss would probably really hurt a company as small as Ghostlight seems to be. At least they’re offering the olive branch and saying they’ll bring over the game if 1800+ people really want it? As far as I know, 1800 sold game copies isn’t really a big number. It’s a pretty pitiful amount, isn’t it? I don’t know about the standard numbers on pre-orders like these, however.

    But honestly, this kickstarter-esque way seems fine to me. If it doesn’t get released, you get a refund. If you do pre-pay for it and 1800+ are reached, you’re getting a game you would’ve bought anyway, because you wanted it in some way or another. Whether to support the company, or because you just want to own DS2. If you don’t want it, or would want to take a gamble on Break Record coming over, then… don’t pre-order? That’s fine, too.

    • Speedo Redempteur

      Maybe , just maybe they should release their game with the correct timing , not make their client wait for months ?
      The players that wanted to play the damn game have imported and those who haven’t don’t care about this game.

      • Skye Johnson

        I still wouldn’t call it a dirty trick.

        Is it awful when there are ridiculous wait times involved? Yes. It sucks and I can understand people getting frustrated when it doesn’t come over or get announced as coming/not coming in a timely manner. (Xenoblade was this way over here, as well as The Last Story and Pandora’s Tower. Lots of will they, won’t theys involved with those.) I wouldn’t call this a trick though—it seems Ghostlight wouldn’t be able to afford bringing this over any other way. So it’s this or… nothing, probably.

        At least they’re being clear and up front about it now. Could they have done it sooner? Possibly. Should they if they were able? Most likely yes. But I don’t know the hoops they have to go through to get something like this done. Small companies can take forever. The release times for P4A + others have made me cringe reading about them. Which is a shame.

  • TrevHead

    I don’t have a 3DS or the US version of the game so Option one is perfect for me. I would have to be mad to turn up an limited collectors edition of an Altus SMT game.

    I’ll go for option 1 in 7 days when I have the cash in the bank.

    God damn that Elminage ltd ed looks nice too!

  • Ni ~UNREAL BLACK THINGS~

    if there’s a company that you guys in Europe should be angry about, that company should be atlus not ghostlight. since well…atlus almost don’t give a fuck about EU. GL at least are trying

    • TrevHead

      This. I really hope Altus is bought up by an entity that’s PAL friendly.

    • shadowind

      I seriously agree with you there about Atlus, my friend considering a lot of the other niche publishers are EU friendly even if a lot of their releases are download-only.

    • LaserVision

      Atlus “gave a fuck” about NA. You know what it got them? Bankruptcy. Atlus’ job is not to give anything. Their job make sure they don’t make headlines on Siliconera next week as the next company to shut down.

      • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

        Atlus “giving a fuck” about NA isn’t what got them bankrupt. Their parent company, INDEX, has been laundering money and generally carrying out shady business practices in Japan for years.

        Rumor has it that they were using Atlus as a front for their illegal activity.

  • Strain42

    No offense to Europe, but I would just NOT put any money into this and just start contacting GhostLight now about getting Break Record localized when that comes out. I mean that’s the better version AND it’s the one that’s gonna be region locked.

    If you really wanna play the original it can be imported, yes?

    So yeah, just starting letting GhostLight know about your desire for Break Record now. I’m not even from Europe and they responded to my e-mail when I was asking about Eternal Punishment Portable. So if enough Europeans hop on the Break Record train, you guys could probably make a difference there.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

      Are you assuming that there definitely will be a English version of Break Record?

      • Nightmare637

        why woulden’t there be?

        • Mr_SP

          An English version of Break Record probably isn’t too unlikely… The question is, will Europe get it? If Ghostlight is having this much trouble, they might decide to not release Break Record. And Break Record is a *3DS* game. There’s no “Well, it’s out in America, so I’ll import it” option.

          • Nightmare637

            maybe NISA would localize it.
            I mean aren’t they the ones who are going to start bringing ATLUS games to europe?(I remember reading that somewhere, not sure if it was here or somewhere else)
            anyway I’d hope europe would get it, even though I don’t live there its a sad thing to read about your guys bad luck when it comes to games(Especially ATLUS ones)

          • Mr_SP

            They did release Persona 4 Golden… but someone else did Persona 4 Arena. So I’m not sure what’s going on, there.

      • Strain42

        Yes, as a matter of fact I am. Given that (if memory serves here, I could be mistaken) Devil Survivor, Devil Survivor 2, and Overclocked all sold incredibly well, and with only a couple exceptions (usually for a good reason) Atlus USA has only passed on a small handful of MegaTen games in the past decade, I see no reason at all to assume there won’t be an English version of Break Record within a year from now at the latest.

    • Julien_N

      Ross from Ghostlight already explained several times on the Ghostlight blog why they won’t just wait until Break Record : ( http://fyre.it/UoiQkf.4 )

      “There are several reasons why we don’t want to just wait.

      1) No one can actually guarantee that they’ll be able to release Break Record until a deal is actually reached to publish it.

      2) We’ve already done most of the work on the game. Seeing as there are some people out there who would like the game as long as we can break even on the manufacturing costs we’d rather allow them to play it rather than just sit on it.”

  • Neppygear

    Ugh, might as well pre-order when that opens up. Been waiting for this long enough. My enthusiasm got majorly soured by the anime, though. That… was one of the crappiest shows -ever-.

    • Ferrick

      was it that bad ? o,o

    • Barrylocke89

      All I can do is assure you that the game does it better.

      I feel that the anime did a few things interesting, but was weak as a whole. Way too rushed. Which is funny because I was hoping that the shorter schedule would keep things intense and on point.

    • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

      The game is way better than the anime.

    • Julien_N

      What was wrong with the anime?
      I didn’t watch it, but Devil Survivor 2′s setting and plot were promising, so I wonder how it could have turned out like this.

      • Neppygear

        Spoilers, but… they basically ripped off Neon Genesis Evangelion’s plot -exactly- (dunno how Eva-y the game was, but the anime did the whole whiny MC, Angels, Kaworu, Second & Third Impact deal), spent no time on character development, and killed off every single character except the protagonist. It was… unfortunate.

        • Julien_N

          Thanks for your answer. ^^

          Judging from it, it does not sound as bad as I thought. I really liked Evangelion so this description actually looks appealing to me. (Yes, even the choice of character deaths)

          The game itself had Eva vibes to it, by the way, so it does not come out of nowhere. However, the MC is not whiny in-game.

  • Sentsuizan_93

    Okay, I’m seeing the comments section here and I see people claiming this as a dirty tactic. This isn’t a dirty tactic. As it is now, the DS is pretty much on its last legs (despite DS games being compatible with 3DS) and given that, a full on mass manufacturing of DS2 would be a big no-no, even for Ghostlight. Thus, they’re setting a target to see if the game is worth localizing, you know, like a kickstarter. It’s bad enough EU had to wait 2 years for Overclocked, and that was filled with issues that finally got a patch. But to think of this as dirty is kind of silly. They did say the money would be refunded if the target isn’t reached and the people getting Option 2 would be getting Overclocked, but cheaper. So this doesn’t sound too bad. Is the target feasible? Only time will tell. But I wouldn’t pass this off as a “dirty tactic”. Dirty would be something more….. malicious.

  • shuyai

    why are people complaining? imagine they extent this offer on majority of Jrpg i will think we will get a lot more localization titles that we will never normally get.

  • Jirin

    I wish all localizations happened on this basis. The company being honest and saying “Look, we need to sell X copies for this to be profitable. Raise your hands.”

    • Ereek

      I’d be okay with this. It would at least allow companies to make informed decisions about their releases and guarantee at least some financial security.

  • Thatguy

    Okay, now Europe need to fund some kind of publisher kickstarter to get a game, that NA got a year ago or so?
    Oh, now i sad… No love for RPG fans from Europe…
    Dunno, if i can pre-order game. (i can’t pre-order most games, and i doubt, that i will find a game from that small publisher)
    Also… Option 2, please!

  • Alexander Marquis Starkey

    This isn’t actually as bad as a deal I thought it would coming into this article. It asks for enough preorders to meet a quota, but it they don’t, they promise a refund, and if you bought bundle, you get discount toward another game. Still sucks that Ghostlight is having this much trouble just trying to green light localization, but 1800 preorders in a month is pushing it.

  • ShadowDivz

    Not to be “that guy” but european gamers it’s time to put up or shut up.

    You guys always say how you want Xniche game to be available or “there’s an audience here in europe too” well now it’s time to show that.

    I find it funny that everyone is all “such a dirty tactic”.

    It’s like everyone wants results but nobody wants to put in effort.

    Remember, without money a business can’t survive.

    • Mr_SP

      Would kinda prefer the Devil Survivor 2 re-release that they have in Japan… But it’s looking really unlikely that it will be released. So, I guess I better make a decision about this.

    • Michael Harrison

      There’s lots of games I want released here; a two year old one for an outdated region free console with an ugly huge box that makes importing from America a more appealing option isn’t one of them.

  • Ferofax

    What basically this boils down to is that a company that localizes games is reaching out to the fans of the game series so that they can let go of a game that they’ve already localized and break even. What remains to be seen is how the fans will support this, but so far I am seriously disappointed.

    I really hope that those dissenting opinions are a minority. 1800 units isn’t a lot, I really hope this thing pushes through.

  • Ouch My Head Said Dionysus

    Good luck, guys!

  • $7573679

    Sounds good that they are trying. I just don’t hope they conclude that Europe is a no go, if a game that has been out none-region locked in English for some time, doesn’t sell too well. Those who wanted it badly enough to pre-order probably already has it.

  • Elvick

    A month? I hope they put the word out. That doesn’t seem like a lot of time, but less than 2,000 pre-orders shouldn’t be that much…

    Hope it works out!

    Since I live in NA, my experience with Ghostlight is limited to importing Record of Agarest War LE for PS3, when I found out that the PS3 version in NA would be digital only (boo). But I really enjoy that LE.

  • Alestaos

    What i dont understand is after the success of the animation did they not wait or release a statement saying they intend to translate the 3DS version based off the smash hit japanese Anime. I wanted to play this game. Is the 3DS version better graphic wise etc or is the DS and 3DS versions almost identical bar for a few new added stuff in the 3DS one which could be minimal?

  • darkbartz

    Man, I would love to have this “dirty trick” all the time when it comes to publishing niche games. Kudos for Ghostlight for being frank with this and I do hope they succeed.

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