More Western RPGs Are Being Localized, But Japanese Gamers Are Unaware Of Them

By Spencer . September 20, 2013 . 4:16am

image Spike Chunsoft is in a unique position to comment on the state of Western RPGs in Japan. Aside from developing games like Danganronpa, they also localize Western games like Saints Row IV,  Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning and Dragon Age.

 

Here’s what Satoru Honma, International Business Development Producer, Spike Chunsoft, had to say about bringing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt to Japan and the state of the Western RPG localization market.

"We’re honored to have the opportunity to work with CD Projekt RED on the release of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in Japan. RPGs have always been a prominent part of the Japanese video game landscape. Although more and more quality western RPGs are now localized into Japanese, most gamers in Japan are still unaware of them. I strongly believe that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will redefine the western RPG for Japanese gamers."

 

Spike Chunsoft kind of plays the role of Atlus USA in Japan. They pick up niche games, in this case Western RPGs and third person shooters, and introduce them to a new market. They aren’t the only company doing this Electronic Arts localized Mass Effect for Japan and Square Enix will release the console version of Diablo III for PS3 next year. However, Spike Chunsoft tends to pick up games from Western publishers that don’t have a foothold in the region. What do you think will make Western RPGs more popular in Japan? Can the same technique be applied to make Japanese RPGs more popular in the West?


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  • Andrew Arndt

    pretty cool not all west rpgs ar bad and it true ;D

    • TiAn

      Western rpg aren’t “bad”, they are created with a different approach. Classic jrpg were built around a story and you could do nothing but follow it; nowaday jrpg thanks to new technologies AND western influence gave more freedom to the genre. Meanwhile western rpg are still more “free” (character personalization, companions even story if you think games like fallout new vegas..)
      They are both good, but for different points!

  • Tenshiken

    At the heart of it, I think it’s a cultural difference between the west and japan. That’s not a bad thing it’s just that Japan has a different history with video games than the west does.

    • linkenski

      The japanese mainstream is just as mediocre as the american mainstream. In a nutshell Japanese people play RPGs or Visual Novels while the western gamers play Shooters or Openworld adventure games/rpgs. Both have very generic entries but each also has noteworthy exceptions.

      Also in my POV Japanese people are obsessed/blinded with Anime and Western audiences are obsessed with “Blockbusters”. Real video games have subtlety and subvert those idiotic stamps.

      • Brion Valkerion

        Microsoft thought the same thing you posted, and it clearly isnt true or they would have made money with the 360. Its not just RPGs and Visual novels, they play anything that is good.

        The biggest problem with western RPGs over there is marketing. In comparison there is almost none, few articles, very few if any Japanese trailers ect.

        • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

          From what I see action games dont sell well in Japan.

        • linkenski

          It’s hard to make something appealing if it isn’t appealing.

      • The Watcher

        i would have agreed with you until i read the 2nd paragraph.

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        Japan likes cute things, not anime.

        The otaku culture is not big. Come off it.

      • epy

        Aside from children shows and the Ghibli films, anime is not as big in Japan as you seem to think. The otaku culture is relatively small and apparently seen with disdain by the majority of the population.

        Visual novels are extremely niche as well and most people don’t know about RPGs that are not called Dragon Quest (or Final Fantasy to a lesser extent). I wonder where you get these misconceptions from.

        • linkenski

          Good to know, because I believe anime is desensitizing people with all the “ecchi” and accpetance of stuff like sibling love and taboo stuff like that.

          Animes have so many undertones of wrongness and way to many people seem to miss that these represent the thoughts of the otaku/creator rather than it being an social commentary. It’s like anime’s and mangas are playgrounds for those who make them, to escape from reality and I hate the fact that so many people think it’s justified.

    • http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/25050-farm-mapping-contest/#entry239430 Chaos17

      Japanese have so much more games than us that it isn’t a surprise that they didn’t heard about western games imo.

  • Richard N

    I always found it bizarre how across the world you’ll find people loving them some JRPGs and whacky Japanese games in general, but meanwhile in Japan they never give anything of ours a chance. Eh….

    • gophinobi

      Yeah, I just realized that when thinking about how the Japanese seem to hate Xbox. While I prefer Sony consoles myself, the disparity of the sales between the two systems is inexcusable and there has to be something more to explain Japanese consumers extreme reluctance to purchase Xbox consoles. But most Japanese students I’ve spoken to at my University don’t even know why Xbox isn’t popular in Japan.

  • http://truner.beluva.hu/ Truner Razer

    To this day, The Witcher is the only western RPG series I can legitimately enjoy. As a JRPG fanatic, I sure hope they’ll also come to like this series. I’m not sure about it changing anything, but if they can at least enjoy The Witcher 3, I’ll be happy. :D

  • Minos

    Japanese people have something called “Yamato Damashi”.

    They tent to only like things in general with it, it is quite irrelebant if the Witcher 3 is the best game on the history of forever, nobody is going to play it in Japan if it lacks “Damashi”.

    It is quite hard to explain… Japanese media in general does not hold back, western media tents to be more “Level headed” or “With the feet on the ground” and people like them, and actually me too, see this as boring.

    I love crazy over the top crap, not serious crap.

    • linkenski

      It’s kinda how people like me don’t play japanese RPG’s because they lack uniqueness. I hate the anime-culture. It has taken over japan and everything is so alike over there, with notable exceptions of course (not to mention it’s similar to the trash-market of military shooters in the west)

      • Cazar

        Maybe you should look beyond just what you see on the surface. There’s nothing wrong with aesthetic appeal as long as that’s not the only selling point.

        • linkenski

          No but I wish more games escaped the norm. I barely recall any japanese games that aren’t anime in artstyle. Anime is just so copy-paste. #Iknoweveryonedisagrees.

          • Cazar

            Then I’ll have to say that you’re artistically ignorant if you perceive it that way. Perhaps it was for people like yourself that abominations such these were created:
            http://i.imgur.com/abTY708.jpg?1
            http://i.imgur.com/APabEU6.jpg?1
            http://i.imgur.com/7AvueBA.jpg?!
            http://i.imgur.com/lDnGR0x.jpg

          • epy

            First time I see the japanese Strider cover. It looks prety great, especially for back in the day. Funny they westernized the hell of the Kendo Rage cover where the actual game is the most silly and japanese thing ever, poking fun at japanese kids shows. There’s even a clock on the upper side of the game for crying out loud.

          • Zero_Destiny

            Ha ha ha Good times.

            Though to be honest, I think it was probably some unwritten law that every single North American Sega Genesis and Sega Master System game box had to have god awful artwork.

          • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

            You should play the SMT, Devil Summoner Raidou and Digital Devil Saga series, the character artist doesnt have anime inclinations at all.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Dat looks punky.

          • Morricane

            Looks pretty manga to me…:)

          • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

            Maybe but its not something you see in JRPGs too much, plus Kaneko does art for mangas.

          • AkuLord3

            I seriously don’t get this comment…anime in artstyle…its the fuckin artstyle over there than here. You can see old school works from before and its the different but still the same. Just like cartoons and arts over here…they’re all different but in sense the same thing so of course in media, we see it alot

          • Morricane

            Since when is anime an artstyle anyway…:D
            At the most, it is an art *form*.

          • linkenski

            Your comment is very incohesive.

          • PreyMantis

            Like Resident Evil, Dragon’s Dogma, Metal Gear Solid, and Vanquish? Fail.

          • http://terracannon876.livejournal.com Laura

            Blanket term blankets things, but I see what you’re saying. You’re free to like what you like, though I’ll have to admit, brave of you to say what you’re saying here ;)

            I think it’s a sad truth that Japanese media is starting to homogenize, with a few exceptions here and there (and these ones … these are the gems that we pay attention to). Art style is one thing – art is art, so however they want to draw it, fine. I think it’s a sad that you dislike the art because you think it’s all the same when “anime art” is a style in and of itself that varies within its genre. But when you actively try to copy an art style (moe-ize EVERYTHING) (and I hope this is what you’re actually referring to, but eh) or stick with one formula that works and are afraid to step out… That’s a different question, and that’s when things start getting worrisome and despairing.

            *braces for downvotes* I’m ready for you! <)

          • linkenski

            Thank you, I was too lazy to write that myself, but it is indeed the “Moezation” of everything that bugs me, and I actually love 90′s/early 2000′s anime artstyles. Lately however the memorable ones are rare to come by because of Moe mainly, and too many animes rip off each other. It’s not that it doesn’t happen in the west though, but it’s in a larger quantity in japan.

            Really look at how many animes there are and try watching at least 2 of each genre. They often have the same reocurring themes and characters often fit into the same archetypes.

            It happens with movies in the west a lot too, and that’s why I often compare anime to blockbuster crap.

            But really, the thing i dislike mainly is the aesthetics of anime. They just look stiff and bland half the time. I haven’t been able to watch more than 10 episodes of an anime before I find myself skipping all the filler because there’s just too many episodes that are irrelevant.

            Maybe i’ve been watching the wrong animes, but I have yet to see one where I genuinely want to see the whole first season. And it doesn’t help that the animation itself is so choppy in most animes.

      • Minos

        Well, Anime looks alike because there are limited animation studios.

        Manga is different since each one is drawn by different people, if you open the Shounen Jump you will find 17 Mangas and 17 different ways to draw, but if you watch the 17 Animes for those Mangas they will probably look alike since the Animes will be drawn for the same people.

        You know, like the Comic Animations of the 90s, all of them looked alike because all of them were from the same people.

        • Morricane

          Not to forget that the consumer-base for manga and for anime is *different*…Also the style usually either gets modified to adapt to that shift in audiences AND/OR gets simplified since an 1:1 adaption of the original style would be too much work and brutally overkill the usually very tight budget.

      • Azzrem

        thats what makes japan unique in their own way

      • Guest

        They lack uniqueness?
        Final Fantasy VII says hi

      • Aesma

        …this unique you speak of, are you talking about story, characterization, art or gameplay?

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        Maybe you should stop going to conventions in Japan?
        AKB48 has taken over Japan, not anime.

        • Morricane

          Even anime got taken over by AKB48…

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            But I dont see any anime on the train :p

            Hatsune Miku isnt hosting a concert on the Shinkansen

          • Morricane

            And here I was subtly referring to the…well…AKB48-anime…T_T

            Why trains actually? I don’t get that reference.

    • Morricane

      “tamashii”, but “Yamato-damashii”. sry :)

      I like good crap btw.

  • Magnumsally

    Japanese gamers have taste.

    • Cazar

      That would explain why Skyrim sold significantly better than The Witcher 2 in Japan? /s

      • Manny Being Manny

        Well, Skyrim is significantly better than Witcher 2.

        • ShawnOtakuSomething

          With mods lol

          • MrTyrant

            This. There are a lot of japanese modders.

          • Morricane

            They probably reskin everything in a manga-style :)

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    I’m a rpg lover, doesnt matter when it came from I’ll enjoy the story and level grained away

  • M’iau M’iaut

    Folks if you are going to come and make idiotic East vs West or West vs East comments, please don’t. If you wish discuss differences and why differences exist as adults, please do.

  • CirnoLakes

    Deleted comments.

    Deleted comments everywhere.

  • Ethan_Twain

    That’s fair. There are more japanese RPGs getting localized now too, but the average western gamer neither knows nor cares about Toukiden or Tales of Xillia or Hyperdimension Neptunia.

    But I’m glad that The Witcher 3 localization is happening, but those games are SO good. Just as there’s a tiny fanatical JRPG crowd outside Japan, I’ve no doubt that this game will find such an audience. It’s too good not to.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      for the case of HDN games, it’s only popular between otaku(s)..

  • ragingmerifes

    The Witcher series should be succesful. The game has most qualities of a good JRPG.
    The only problem is that it is for PC and X360, and I don’t think a lot of people in Japan like to play on these platforms.

    • 永次

      The Witcher 3 will be for PS4.

  • Ni ~UNREAL BLACK THINGS~

    nothing need to be changed in WRPGs to appeal to the japanese, because if they change they will need to develop a japan centric game. They’re like us in JRPGs and other japan centric games. they don’t know if a game will be localized and it is localized they get alot of censored stuff in the game. And seriously? The japanese mainstream sucks as much the west mainstream and both are the opost of the other. so, changing a Western game to cater the japanese like will change the game in a drastically way (the same when a japanese game tries to cater the most western people as possible).
    But we have games that are succesful in the west and japan. and these game are normally produced by people that are well known in the whole world or are extremely good. so in the end leave the games as they are and see if they can attract more people to try them out.

    In a more personal note: I fucking hate that generation with this whole xenophobic thing flying around that we needed to start put W and J before the word known as RPG. I miss the times where both were just called RPGs

    • Bunzi

      So much this. We need to celebrate diversity in the industry, internationally as well as domestically. If I want something charming and energetic and cute, I turn to Pokemon or Final Fantasy. If I want something a little more contemplative and choice filled, I’ll play Neverwinter Nights or Planescape.

    • Monsley

      Well, I can’t speak for anybody but myself, and I sure see a lot of inexplicable negativity in these comments, but I do, in fact, make a very clear distinction between “JRPGs” and “WRPGs” – and I can assure you that there’s nothing xenophobic in that (I hope the same holds true for other people who do). Is it xenophobic to distinguish between Italian food and French food?
      (As for the rest of what you wrote, I completely agree.)

      Personally, I see Western RPGs and Japanese RPGs as two very distinctive genres – they have some common elements, sure, but to me that would be like saying that Grand Turismo and Grand Theft Auto belong to the same genre because they both have cars. (I’m exaggerating a bit and I’m absolutely not saying that this applies to everybody; I just wanted to get the idea of how different WRPGs and JRPGs feel TO ME).
      I happen to like both, although I have a preference for turn-based JRPGs… which, to me, also feel so much different from, say, tactical JRPGs that I don’t even like them.

      I’m not sure why JRPGs aren’t as popular in the West as WRPGs are (are RPGs even that popular AT ALL? The Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect sure are, but I’m not even sure the same can be said for The Witcher, at least over here) and vice versa; maybe it is a cultural thing, with Westerners being perhaps more familiar with a “Tolkien” idea of fantasy instead of an Anime-like sci-fi idea of fantasy? I am probably wrong, especailly considering that Japanese comics and animation are relatively popular over here, and most people in their twenties/thirties grew up with late 70s to early 90s anime, so they should be quite used to the “Japanese style” in entertainment…

      • ChiffonCake

        Couldnt agree more, and I think that this split between WRPGs and JRPGs nicely illustrates the problem with the current set of game genres that we refer to. Both of these offer different experiences, and players play them for different reasons, yet they’re both called “RPG”s…

        • Monsley

          Exactly! I don’t want JRPGs to become more like WRPGs only to “appeal to the Western audience”, just as I don’t want the contrary – they are different experiences and I’d like them to stay this way. Of course, this doesn’t mean that I am against the idea of the two genres influencing (in a positive way, hopefully) each other – quite the contrary!

      • Altritter

        Witcher does alright for itself. Both games combined have sold over five million worldwide lifetime, which is nothing to scoff at. I think Witcher 3 will probably be the best-selling game because it’s actually being released simultaneously on PC and consoles.

        • Monsley

          Oh wow, I wasn’t aware of that, thanks for letting me know! Those numbers sure sound very good!

          I guess I just didn’t notice much publicity/hype for The Witcher – I have actually never heard any of the “gamers” I know even mention it, so that might be the reason I didn’t know it was this popular worldwide.

          • Altritter

            Yeah, it does feel a bit under the radar despite selling well. I think Europe may account for much of its sales since it’s made by a Polish dev team and based on popular novels but I can’t find hard numbers. Just blanket “Over x million” statements by the devs.

      • brian

        I wasted a bunch of time on a certain heavily anime inspired social network, and most of the people into games seem to like anime or not really, but most of them seemed to lean towards WRPGs or FPSs.
        FF/KH seemed to be the exception to this though, just some food for thought.

        • Monsley

          That’s interesting and it shows that perhaps there is little to no correlation between liking anime and liking JRPGs.
          I have to admit, even my own experience with Japanese animation and games seems quite weird to me; I first got into JRPGs on Super Nintendo and PlayStation because I was really into anime back then, and I thought that those games “looked like anime” (and also like Pokémon). Nowdays, I’m not into anime at all (with a couple of notable exceptions) while I like JRPGs (for their art style, storytelling and gameplay) much more than I used to. Someone should do a study on this phenomenon! :D

    • Slayven19

      Thank you, I also hate that crap, rpg’s are rpg’s to me at least.

  • epy

    It’s more likely due to aesthetic differences. Western RPGs tend to look way more realistic, people tend to look unattractive, ugly even. Sometimes women that are supposed to very attractive in-game are actually down in creepy silicon valley area. Men are all either, old men, generic unattractive NPCs or burly warriors. Compare that to the, sometimes ridiculously, stylized japanese character designs for men and women, there’s a large gap between sensitivities.

    The setting is also another culprit. While japanese games tend to have an unique setting of their own, even if ridden with anime tropes, WRPGs tend to be set on a familiar european high fantasy background with high fantasy races and high fantasy monsters. The worlds tend to look same-ish from the outside, even if they can be fun to explore and even beutiful once you actually play the game. The lore, which is usually a strong aspect of WRPGs, has be experienced to be appreciated, as in it can’t be shown in a trailer or a screenshot.

    “They all look the same” is something a person that dislikes WRPGs might say, which is ironically the same statement people that dislike anime love to use.

    tl;rd: Japanese like them spiky hair and big swords, westeners like them burly men and… big swords.

    • ChiffonCake

      You raise a good point, and one that I agree with, but I think there’s something else… after all, even obviously western-influenced japanese games, like Dark Souls and such, feel distinctly different from their actual western counterparts.

      I don’t know where this “feel” comes from, though I’ll say that it is precisely why I usually like japanese games more than western ones.

      • epy

        That’s also true. Something about Dark Souls makes me say “That’s a japanese game.” without knowing much about it. I wonder what it is.

        • Reficul Terumi

          Well that leads in with in what you said about aesthetic differences. While Demon’s/Dark Souls have a Western- ish feel to them, none of the characters are incredibly unappealing, neither in appearance or in personality. As far as women go, you don’t have a Maiden in Black, Priscilla, Quelagg, or Astraea is WRPGs. As far as male characters go there’s nothing even close to the complexity characters like Siegmeyer, Logan, Kaathe or Gwendolen. In WRPGs female characters either have no personality or are the “anything men can do I can do better” spokesman. Males character just all look they were modeled after characters from LotR movies and possess no depth of character imo. In souls I can feel it’s a Japanese game because of the depth an and original yet familiar themes. You would NEVER get a boss fight like Gwen or Allant in a WRPG. Not saying that Souls are the best games or that WRPGs suck, just putting my two cents on the differences

        • Bacon_n_Lettuce

          I think it comes from what you were saying previously about western RPGs using high-fantasy, Tolkien-esque tropes. Most Western RPGs tend to use the generic elves, dwarves, goblins, and whatnot; and while there are definitely creatures similar to those in Demon’s Souls and Dark Souls, the Souls series tends to use much more imaginative, unique creatures of their own design. The same goes for the environments and the NPCs, though maybe not to the same extent as the creature design.

        • harmonyworld

          Okay, for reals though, I thought dark souls was a wrpg for the longest time.

      • Tiredman

        They feel different because they are. Games like Dark Souls has something almost all western games don’t, challenge, and the want to kick your behind. Challenging games was a Japanese norm in the early gaming days. When gaming went mainstream in the West, that is in large part because difficulty was lessened to make games more accessible. Only indies in the West make challenging games anymore, save for the rare big budget game, while a lot of Japanese games are nails hard still, like schmups.

    • Morricane

      I like cute chicks and big…swords. Where do I stand now? T_T

      • epy

        That depends… do these chicks have spiky hair? In either case, probably japanese games. Western designers (most of them anyways) can’t seem to design female characters that are pleasing to the eyes very often. They either make them look too generic looking or too manly. The only one I can think off the top of my head is Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite, oh and Lara from the recent TR.

    • http://terracannon876.livejournal.com Laura

      I don’t think it’s just the aesthetics that make the difference, as others have pointed out. They certainly help, of course, but it isn’t the definitive factor. Something with anime art can still feel like a western RPG, and vice versa.

      I think the way they each tell their story makes a difference. RPGs, at their core, have you experience a story. However, western RPGs usually have you explore and find the story for yourself, while with Japanese RPGs it’s more like a narrative. In western RPGs, a bigger emphasis is spent on branching storylines and choice. If it isn’t a choice in how the story unfolds, then it’s customization, which side quests you choose to participate in, or your job/class in the game. In Japanese RPGs, these are more set in stone. Again, the purpose is to tell a story that is happening, and you aren’t the “character in the story” so much as you are an onlooker watching everything (sort of like a 3rd person POV vs. a 1st person POV in a book). This holds true even for silent protagonists, in which case you are only imagining what they would say, but the events going on around them still imply you are watching on. You are simply filling in the words for this silent protagonist.

      Granted, as you may know, the number of JRPGs I play far outnumber the number of western RPGs I play, so this is merely speculation. Please tell me what you think!

      • epy

        That’s definetely a big factor but I’ve seen so many people that refuse to try JRPGs because of the “anime look” that sometimes I’m incline to believe actual gameplay or narrative doesn’t matter to these people if they can’t get into the aesthetics. Otherwise, I’d believe SMT or Persona in a lesser manner would be much more popular than it is in the west.

        On the other hand, I’ve been seeing more and more blank slate, make-your-own, dress-your-own avatar in japanese games, so maybe it’s not all black and white over there at least.

        • http://terracannon876.livejournal.com Laura

          True. I don’t think aesthetics is a non-factor to consumers. After all, people judge a book by its cover when they know nothing about it. Even anime fans will be hesitant to try a new anime if they dislike the art style, let alone someone not used to anime art.

          I’m more talking about the difference between the genres once you get past that, since there are some games that look like the other but still feels like itself (if that made any sense).

  • Pockystix

    I find it funny that one of the reasons RPGs did so well in Japan, was Dragon Quest.

    It was designed to be the gateway to RPGs, made by lovers of the now ancient PC RPGs that were far too complex for the casual crowds in Japan.

    So in a way, they learned from the West, and the in turn, we came to appreciate their innovations to the genre later on.

  • A Bomb!

    For a country that eschews WRPGs, Japan has at least one developer that’s really good at making them.

    • 永次

      Demons and Dark saga are JRPG not WRPG.

      • Mr_SP

        Aren’t they ARPGs, which is another thing altogether?

        • brian

          Action RPGs?
          I guess that’d make Tales non-JRPG and Elder Scrolls non-WRPG.
          Although people sometimes refer to them by genre like SRPG, though idk if it applies to both sides.

          • Mr_SP

            They’re really loosely defined, aren’t they? RPG elements are bleeding over to action games, action elements are bleeding over to RPGs… Dark Souls is a pretty major example. A western-style game made by a Japanese company, with significant RPG leanings, but heavily built around a stringent action base.

          • Estrius Alstar

            “western-style game made by a Japanese company”
            What do you means by that? Gameplay? Definitely, no. Setting? Medieval Europe has always been common in JRPGs.

          • Morricane

            Actually, it would make Tales JARPG and Elder Scrolls WARPG! Pretty obvious, right?

            I guess the difference here is the point of view:
            that entire (ridiculous) WRPG/JRPG-controversity looks at design aesthetics which are supposedly different depending on the country of origin. (heck this feels like some nihonjinron…Japan is different from the entire rest of the world).

            Anyway, ARPG, Dungeon Crawler, console-style RPG, SRPG etc. refers to a certain type of presentation or combat system, ie. actual gameplay mechanics.

            And yes, of course all these real-time-combat “WRPGs” are Action-RPGs in a broader sense. What else?! Strategy-RPGs? ^^;;;;

  • enorka miho

    If only the east and the west can collide like the demon souls series did but of course with a more solid plot and characters..It would be awesome!!!! And people would stop comparing the crap out of them because no matter what.. they are still RPGs at heart!

    • Slayven19

      This

    • Warboss Aohd

      Project Phoenix

      dat iz all.

      • Morricane

        I hope that one will be as good as it’s staff reads on paper.

  • brian

    I recently thought about the way a lot of japanese games only seem to have their credits after beating the game or in an opening sequence, but almost everything else seems to have the credits available from the title screen.
    I guess it could be philosophical differences, but it strikes me as weird.
    I’ll leave this three-part thing from Extra Credits about their differences:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_rvM6hubs8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8aiEsIW9IM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmkdoz5LjdE

  • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 水木

    Another generation of gamers

  • CasualGamer

    It makes sense actually. WRPG is a niche in Japanese market just as JRPG is a niche in Western market.

  • Kornelious

    I can understand that I only play a few WRPG’s myself, like dragons Dog-oh wait…..like Dark So-oh can’t use that one either………

    • Kornelious

      Oh but there’s Demons So-……….I’m just gonna stop talking now :(

  • Learii

    so wait western games are localized to japan but some Japanese games never localized to the west that just so unfair

    • Morricane

      You don’t even WANT to play about 80% of the RPGs that ever were released in Japan and not localized…believe me :)

  • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

    I cant still believe there isnt a western style japanese RPG, you know with choices, character customization, exploration but with anime style.

    I think this would sell a lot in JP.

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      The indie devs who like RPG’s make those.

    • Altritter

      It doesn’t have an anime style, but the Souls series fits the rest of that.

      • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

        Yes but i think aesthetics is the main reason why WRPGs are not that appealing in Japan.

    • Slayven19

      Yeah that’s a good idea, you know I had an idea once to let a western studio like bioware make a rpg for japan. Only just let japan do the artstyle for the games and I think they’d have a real winner.

      • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

        Yeah i got this idea after seeing how much MMOs have anime style that would work well on a western themed RPG.

      • Warboss Aohd

        dat seemz like somethin’ dat would resonate wit’ both Japanese an’ Western audiencez.

    • Morricane

      I’m quite sure there were several western style Japanese RPG. 20 years ago…on Japanese home computers. But of course, back then, western RPGs were different from today. They had parties and turn-based combat! And were not first/third-person action RPGs…with only *one* character to control. Actually, how many high-profile WRPG releases are *not* in that vein nowadays? (serious question)

  • Audie Bakerson

    Of course, a lot of the best wRPGs were flops or at least only moderate successes in the west, so translating them is right out, ensuring the wRPGs Japan gets are pretty mediocre ones that had lots of advertising.

  • Carlos Luis Ayala

    Capcom is trying to break the barrior with Dragon’s Dogma and Deep Down

    • Testsubject909

      Deep Down which is free to play by the way.

  • Carlos Luis Ayala

    Capcom is trying to break the barrior with Dragon’s Dogma and Deep Down

  • Kamille

    I wish The Witcher 2 were on PS3. ;(

    • Zangetsu777

      yes Witcher 2 needs a PS3 release.

      And Witcher 1 needs a PS3 and 360 release

  • Göran Isacson

    I do wonder how well the third game in what is a continuing storyline will woo newcomers to the WRPG genre… I mean Witcher is good fun, but I wonder if it will be easy to get into.

  • Warboss Aohd

    advertisin’ can make all da difference.

  • whatinthewolrd

    In this gen, both JRPG and WRPG genres have been wrought with shitty games that are unoriginal and uninspiring.

    When you compare the best of the best from each genre. JRPGs still stay on top at the end of it all. Nier’s story is just the best story of ANY game this gen, the writing is unique and phenomenal. Ni No Kuni was a work of art. Dark Souls’ gritty fantasy tortured us and kept us coming back for more.

    Games like Oblivion, Skyrim, and The Witcher are good but they are same thing (again) Everything looks the same (again). Their creativity is far lacking. Which brings me to Mass Effect, a Sci-Fi with a great story but a FPS mess.

    • Warboss Aohd

      gonna break character for a moment.

      no, just no.

      Let me start by saying i love JRPGs more than any genre, but i must disagree.

      in this gen, there were many good WRPGs (Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1 and 2, The Witcher 2, all of the Zeboyd Games (though JRPG in design, they are a western company), among many others i am forgetting

      JRPGs did have a few good ones this gen, especially Xenoblade Chronicles which was borderline flawless and Lost Odyssey among others i could list out, but if i had to go through an entire list of Games from this gen of both genres, i’d probably be able to pick out more great WRPGs than great JRPGs, JRPGs this gen have for the most part been played pretty safe (again, exceptions, like Xenoblade and Lost Odyssey), i didn’t see as many new ideas or at least genuine effort from JRPGs as i have WRPGs. Which pains me to say, as i can look back at the 2 previous generations and honestly and quite easily declare that great JRPGs far outnumbered the great WRPGs.

      • whatinthewolrd

        You lost me when you said good and Dragon Age, that game brought nothing new to the table and was buggy and unoriginal.

        Xenoblade is the most overrated JRPG game this gen which is why I didn’t included it. The Last Story and Lost Odyssey have better story’s that don’t linger in unoriginal plots we see in games.

        • Wolfs_Rain

          To be fair, originality isn’t everything. Developers like Idea Factory and Compile Heart have put some very…unique games, but aren’t exactly what I’d consider very good. Hell, even the Final Fantasy XIII games are fairly original in some aspects.

          I’ll take a game that’s highly derivative, but decently executed, with interesting characters like DA:O, Deus Ex, Mass Effect, or The Witcher any day over vice versa.

        • Warboss Aohd

          Dragon Age: Origins unoriginal?
          why tell me, what other game has you play as a individual who drinks the TOXIC BLOOD of creatures that are basically walking viruses of pure malice and hate in order to end their leader’s rain of terror?

          now don’t misunderstand me, i left out Dragon Age 2 on purpose for a reason, it was not a good game though it appears Inquisition will fix a good number of it’s problems (most important being race selection, which now actually eclipses the original by adding the Qunari).

          Xenoblade Overrated? have you played the game? it was a breath of fresh air the genre desperately needed, and still needs more of. It’s plot kept my interest, the gameplay works greatly, sidequests galore, it did so much right! It’s not perfect, but it’s damn good. It stood out amongst the others, to the point an entire movement was started to get it and 2 other games localized due to standing out amongst the others so much.

  • EQeE

    Care to take back your words mongrel? . The Witcher series are fun as hell and it’s made in Poland(That means no stupid and cheesy hollywood-stuff), so your argument is invalid.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    FOOOL Westen rpgs can be amazing you havnt played bards tale

  • Azzrem

    so how come the japanese doesn’t even bother playing them? for me,i don’t really like the atmosphere of western rpgs.too serious i guess…

  • Azzrem

    better than cartoon..

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    Cuz, we locolize as much as they do

  • linkenski

    Actually no. I want more games with a 90′s cartoon artstyle. At least cartoons vary in artstyle while Anime remains completely template-cut.

  • Guest

    lol..that,i agree..

  • Cazar

    You need to realize that many people who are unfamiliar with American cartoons also feel that they look the same. This is the result of ignorance on the subject matter, you perceive things similarly when you’re less accustomed to them. It’s the same as saying all people of a certain race look the same, when you are less exposed to them. It’s just ignorance, and all you’re managing to do is further prove your own.

  • Azzrem

    saw the gameplay..boring as hell

  • Morricane

    Which one? The one from the 80s? xDD

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    2006

  • linkenski

    I hate modern western cartoons, but 90′s cartoons were varied a lot in their artstyle. In Anime there are certain differences from artist to artist in how characters are drawn but in general, Anime characters are often just templates with the same faces and the only difference between them is their getup and their hairstyle. In some cases it’s shocking how lazy it is, and it doesn’t help that the animation has 3-5 frames per second in most cases and overall it looks incredibly stiff.

  • Cazar

    Blame that on bad character design, not the art form. I was mostly referring character designs with manga-inspired characteristics used in other mediums such as games, not anime in-particular, but it sounds like you may have just watched some garbage anime and had a bad taste left in your mouth.

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