New Fate/Stay Night Anime To Be More Serious Like Fate/Zero

By Laura . January 28, 2014 . 12:03pm

As previously reported, a new Fate/Stay Night anime is in production at anime studio ufotable, and is scheduled to air in Japan in fall 2014. An interview in the latest volume of Type-Moon Ace magazine brings further details. (Thanks, Yaraon and Humanity6)

 

Thus far, it’s unclear just which of the three routes—Fate, Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven’s Feel—ufotable will animate. That having been said, ufotable intend to take their adaptation of Fate/Stay Night in the more serious direction they went with in Fate/Zero.

 

(That having been said, one can expect to look forward to comical scenes as well.)

 

Thus far, the scenario for the series is half-complete and work has been done on several episodes. The scenario has been written to preserve the feel of Fate/Stay Night co-creator Kinoko Nasu as much as possible. Nasu himself is present every time the scenario writers meet and provides a great deal of background information. ufotable are trying to incorporate as much of this information into the show as possible, a lot of which wasn’t included in the original.

 

Additionally, ufotable say that, while both production staff and viewers may tend to view the new Fate/Stay Night anime as a “sequel to Zero,” they’re attempting to create their adaptation of Fate/Stay Night independently of Fate/Zero, since Zero was able to be what it is using the original Fate/Stay Night game as a foundation.

 

Finally, ufotable expressed their desire to “properly write Shirou Emiya as a protagonist” and mention that Shirou, Rin and Saber will have new outfits.


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  • http://mahdrills.com Mahdrills

    I’m excited.

  • sorenman2

    New outfits… Saber Lily? Also please let it be Heaven’s Feel.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/findlay27 Hawk Ward

    I’m pretty much reiterating everyone’s thoughts at this stage, but I really hope it’s the third route, Heaven’s Feel. There is actually evidence to support this being “likely” (or at least plausible)…

    - Episode 1, When Tokiomi and the Judge of the Grail War talk to Kirei, they directly refer to “The Third Magic”, i.e. Heavens Feel. While it is Fate/lore pretty much, to reference it in the anime is a good enough hint to me

    - (SPOILER) Towards the conclusion of Fate/Zero, Sakura shows a clear dark side to Kariya as she leaves him.

    - … It’s Ufotable!! This is the perfect opportunity to animate Heaven’s Feel!

    I’m sure there are more things to point out, but all I can confirm is that this deserves all of our hype, and we should expect probably another big success. Ufotable have yet to disappoint, they did great on Kara no Kyoukai, and Fate/Zero, I doubt they’d pass up the chance to give Fate/Stay the same treatment.

    Link of possible interest?
    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_Grail_War#Fuyuki
    EDIT: The reply below is mine, didn’t mean to delete it.

    • Guest

      Ahh, read doubleO7′s comment…. close enough!! Original is better than being lumped with Fate or Unlimited Blade Works imo >__>

    • natchu96

      The Third Magic’s name is Heaven’s Feel; the Cup of Heaven.

      Holy Grail . . . always did notice that tidbit. Shame it seems the Einzbern have completely forgotten why they are here in the first place because they want to win so badly. Technically they summoned You-Know-Who (not Voldemort, THAT guy) and pretty much screwed the universe over in subsequent wars.

      In Apocrypha’s timeline, while the Third War was ongoing before the Grail was stolen, they instead summoned a certain Ruler to fight in their stead. Already we have repercussions of that going on in that novel’s plot already like a couple of chapters in. If anything it’s important plot detail, and once again the Einzbern just screwed over the magi all over. Says his name is Amakusa Shirou Tokisada – wait, that middle name sounds familiar . . .

      • DyLaN

        Its all Einzbern fault.

        >wait, that middle name sounds familiar . . .

        http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130818133235/typemoon/images/1/1d/ShirouKotomine.png

        You were saying? :P

        • Shirogane Takeru

          yup, another case of a Servant getting another Servant

          and as the Einzberns are already guilty of screwing up those timelines, maybe they’re the ones that screwed up the Extra timeline too, mana being gone and all….

          • natchu96

            At least the Moon seems like a nice grail to know. It seems VERY impartial. About everything except its own safety anyway, but honestly everything is like that.

        • natchu96

          I think I am entitled to sarcasm :3

  • doubleO7

    Based on a magazine leak it seems likely that its going to be a brand new, original arc.

    http://seventhstyle.com/2014/01/28/fatestay-night-anime-remake-details-leaked/

    My thoughts on that are mixed, as I was really hoping to see Heaven’s Feel or a new adaptation of the first two arcs, but with Nasu’s close involvement it’ll probably turn out great either way.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      I’m not sure what that blog’s source is, since it doesn’t cite any, but the source we linked to indicate that details aren’t clear on the route. Just that Nasu is providing a large amount of input and background information that wasn’t even contained in the original, and that all of this is being added to the new anime.

    • transferstudentx

      SPOILERS: it cant be heavens feel seeing how fate zero treated saber going with heavens feels ending is too cruel my guess its a completed saber route combining elements from all routes to properly make shirou grow as a protagonist imagine going throw all the events that changed him in each route in one route what kind of shirou well he be and ending the anime with saber true ending seeing thats the only route Illyasviel stays alive in there is no way they kill her after how zero ended

      • MrTyrant

        Heaven feel so I can enjoy Saber’s fanboys tears. Please give me that pleasure…suddenly I remember how Gilgamesh and Cu Chulainn were killed…not sure if want.

        • transferstudentx

          my favorite route is ubw not saber btw well these two are the same in a way there all about shirou thats why i think going with saber route as a main is the right choise in this anime after zero she is afterall the most popular main heroine out of the three for fate/stay night thats a fact nobody can change like it or not

          • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

            I love UBW…. But Illia being butchered by Gil in UBW is a no no =/

      • J_Joestar

        yeah it might be cruel, but at the same time, Zero kinda shows us a sample of what Sakura has to go through too so it is also pretty cruel to go another route without addressing that fact that she has to continue to go through it in Fate and UBW route, just that it goes unmentioned.

  • transferstudentx

    a new fate route where they connect and combine elements from all three routes but using the saber route as a base and properly write shirou as a protagonist so they well let us see his full potential as a master,mage,and a human who knows whats ordeals awaits him for him reach that level they erll make the anime more serious ? than the game? more serious than heaven feels route and all the routes? oh boy i pity this anime shirou lol

    • Aleister Crowley

      Serious doens’t have to mean dark.

      • transferstudentx

        ufotable intend to take their adaptation of Fate/Stay Night in the more serious direction the way they went with in Fate/Zero.
        and that was dark so i assumed serious =dark i think thats what they meant by the word here

      • Ereek

        To be fair, you can’t really make a proper Fate/Stay Night anime adaption without it being dark. You’re going to have to shave out the filler, eg kitchen events where the humor takes place, and most of what is left is angst, death, sex, and technical descriptions of the universe’s laws of magic.

  • Aleister Crowley

    Wait. Wait. A new route (or at least slighty new stuff)? By ufotable?
    YEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
    Now, for this to be perfect just shove Sakura into a closet and don’t take her out until it’s over.
    I just hope this is a chance for more Saber.

    • really6

      Go and read Saber’s route.

      • Aleister Crowley

        More Saber, Rin or Rider is always good.
        Less Sakura is always good.

        • really6

          A lot of Rider and less Sakura? I’m sorry for you then.

          • Aleister Crowley

            Yeah, unfortunately they come hand in hand in F/SN.

          • really6

            it has to be that way, master and servant together

  • Juan Andrés Valencia

    Heaven’s Feel?!

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Tohsaka

      Nope. Original path.

      • Juan Andrés Valencia

        Ok. That answers one question.

        The real problem is whether people are going to die if they are killed.

      • InvestedInYourFuture

        Nope. nothing is confirmed.

  • Go2hell66

    serious, just how i like it :)

  • Carocaro4

    oh joyous day!

  • David García Abril

    I’m gonna ask something.

    I watched “Fate/Zero” and, although I overall enjoyed it, I didn’t go particularly nuts for it, but I suspect that was because I didn’t fully grasp the universe of the story. Which is a shame, because I could feel that it was a good place to explore. It was just that “Fate/Zero” wasn’t particularly good at introducing said world to newbies.

    That’s why I decided to try to get my hands on the visual novel, but now that this remake of the anime is coming, I don’t know if I should wait for it.

    What do you guys recommend me?

    And if I end up reading the visual novel first, which route do you recommend me for starting? Everyone seems to agree that the so-called “Heaven’s Feel” arc is the absolute best. Should I start with it right of the bat, or it’s better if I leave it for last?

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Everyone seems to agree that the so-called “Heaven’s Feel” arc is the absolute best. Should I start with it right of the bat, or it’s better if I leave it for last?

      No, no, and more no. Heaven’s Feel is a nice arc to play through after you’ve completed either Fate or Unlimited Blade Works. It’s been a long time since I played Fate, but I recall HF being the most depressing of the three routes, so I wouldn’t recommend making that your definitive Fate experience, since the first one makes the biggest impression, usually.

      To my recollection, you can’t even play it until you’ve completed the other two… I think. That having been said, I think Heaven’s Feel probably had the most ties to Fate/Zero.

      • Aleister Crowley

        Every route has ties to Zero. It’s kind of the point of the whole thing. Saber and her struggle, Shiro and his struggle with the values that where passed down to him and Sakura’s stuff. Maybe there’s that feeling because both are darker than the rest. And there lies the problem for me.

        HF works like this.
        One side of the coin -> Important Past Exposition
        Other side -> “Remember that character that barely appeared in the last 40 hours and didn’t really do a lot during this whole ‘Holy War’ deal? We’re going to place the emotional weight of this route on her shoulders. Enjoy”

        I was surprised because of the revelations about her past, and glad Rider had more screen time, but not only do we have the Saber Alter deal ($%$!), we have Shirou being contrary to himself after we see him defending his ideals by litteraly fighting himself. And since I like Sakura as much as I like Zouken and Shinji, it was a terrible route for me.

        • Romancer Ecclesia

          Fate zero was about how the choices of different characters already predetermined their fates, ironically, even if they had the resolve to change things. Each is helplessly stubborn about their own ideals. FSN/UBW/HF continues this trend and had progressive themes about ideals against the world, how ideals conflict with reality, and how people deal with ideals when coming to terms with reality. It was mentioned in an interview with the author in 2006? Thus you had a different heroine reflecting each theme in the VN, no story was ‘the best’ and a faithful adaptation would only cripple the sequel since each had a gaping hole in one way or another.

        • Alexander Marquis Starkey

          I was actually really impressed that Shiro had to strike against his screwed up ideals of what a hero is for someone he cared for but not everyone saw it that way apparently.

          • Aleister Crowley

            His ideals aren’t screwed up, just unreal. That’s why they are called ideals, no? I suppose one could say, however, that he could do something like that because he hadn’t acted on his ideals yet, so they didn’t actually have a concrete shape to them.
            But HF is incredibly jarring to me after dozens of hours of seeing him act a different way.
            Besides when it comes to Sakura, it’s completely unfair and unbalanced.
            Nasu once said that no matter the love interest, Sakura would always be an important person to Shirou. She’s close to being a Creator’s Pet. But:
            With Saber, you have the relationship AND something else. Her wish, struggle with what it means to be a king, yadda, yadda.
            With Rin, you have the relationship AND their future as magus, magical studies, yadda, yadda.
            With Sakura, it’s just the relationship. There is no other dimension to it. That’s what the entire route is about. There is no balance, there is no other point, no secondary goal and now that I think about it, close to zero character development for anyone, except Kirei, which is the only good point of that route, but again, it’s more revelation than development. That’s why, I think, there’s so much exposition. He needed to fill the time with something. In the end it’s two people mindlessly going after each other, exhausting what they are in the process. Cute really. Shirou loses the identity he had built. But the japanese have a odd sense of what romance is, so what do I know?

            tl;dr? I really, really, really don’t like HF.

          • Iluz

            It seems like I liked HF for exactly the opposite reason of you not liking it. The Fate route was beautiful because of Saber’s struggle (and for being a wonderful though bizarre tribute to my favourite hero). UBW was beautiful because of Shirou’s own struggle against himself and believing in his ideals despite seeing a version of himself that was betrayed by them to the point of hating its very existence, all of which I could really identify with.
            But then comes Heaven’s Feel, and painfully mirrors Fate/Zero. Despite feeling very close to these ideals myself, the one thing I could not imagine myself doing in Kiritsugu’s place was choosing the world over Irisviel. Sure there was the part about the real Illya still being outside the grail, but had it been the point of strictly choosing to save either the entire world or just one person, that would have been the one and only time where I would have thought that tossing aside those ideals would be even more “beautiful” (as Shirou called these ideals in UBW) than saving everyone else.
            Shirou shared that difference from Kiritsugu with me. Had he kept his ideals, it would have ended with bad end 35 (which wasn’t even called a bad-end) and as the novel itself described it, he would have become just like Kiritsugu, the hero he admired, but his heart would have died.
            But yes, he chose love. I understand his choice despite not sharing his great love for Sakura (simply because she’s not my type even with her backstory aside, I really loved both Saber and Rin though, and definitely Irisviel. I don’t dislike Kiritsugu for making his choice since his case still was slightly different than Shirou’s, but if it were the real Iri I never would have chosen the world over her).
            Anyway, despite Sakura being my least favourite heroine, in terms of concept my favourite route seems to be HF. Only by a bit though.

      • http://terracannon876.livejournal.com Laura

        I believe that Heaven’s Feel is considered the “true” route (in that it explains the most information), and so it’s only natural HF has the most ties to Zero? I mean, everything revealed in HF technically is still taking place in the other routes. We just don’t know about it, so in a sense, every route (or rather, Fate itself) is connected to Zero :P

    • transferstudentx

      go with saber-ubw -hf and yes you should play the vn before watching the anime you well appreciate the anime more that way i think that how i ended up with fate zero

    • Aleister Crowley

      Get the visual novel. IIRC, the routes have to be played in Fate, UBW and HF order.
      And no, HF is not the best arc. Although much of that is affected by what love interest is your favorite.

    • doubleO7

      I, and most others, would NOT recommend playing them out of order. Like the other commenters have said: Fate, then UBW, then HF.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Tohsaka

      You won’t be able to access Heaven’s Feel without going through Fate first. I believe you have the option to choose once that is taken care of but like most here you’ll want to probably set your sights on Unlimited Blade Works first.

      Short of that, you can always look up the OVA that is based off Unlimited Blade Works. The original F/SN anime is barely worth your time if even at all. At least it beats out [that other Nasu thing that cannot be named]‘s anime.

      • transferstudentx

        he can with the newest fate stay night realta nua port on pc its basically like a three different games for each route

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Tohsaka

          Ah. See I go farther back than that so I wouldn’t know. I wouldn’t do it any other way otherwise, though.

          • transferstudentx

            yea after finishing the game i cant imagine myself playing the game in any other order its like each route prepares you for the next one

    • Kelohmello

      You want to read it. This anime is potentially going to be an original scenario according to some reports. Whether it is or not, really you’re probably better off reading the entirety of F/SN first because you’ll likely understand more of the world and terminology that way, they go very in-depth with a number of things that Fate/Zero just assumes you know. That being said you have no choice but to go in order with the Visual Novel. It goes Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven’s Feel, and you have to read one to unlock the next.

    • really6

      You can’t choose the order, it starts with Fate, Unlimited Blade works next, and Heaven’s Feel the last.

      What I recomment you is forget about Fate/Zero while you read the novel, after all is a prequel.

    • David García Abril

      Thanks for the responses, guys.

      I guess I’ll just play the novel in the “canon” order, then.

      Just another question, though: How long does it take to play/read the whole thing?

      • Romancer Ecclesia

        only 30-50 hours

        • Ereek

          No way. I’m a relatively fast reader of English and 100%ing it with no guide took me about 70.

          • Romancer Ecclesia

            I used the guide and only got 2-3 tiger dojo ends. also, skipped past the first few days for UBW and HF that’s been read already.

      • Exkaiser

        It’s long. Set aside a couple evenings to read.

    • Romancer Ecclesia

      Heavens Feel makes a certain someone die horribly. So there’s no fucking way type moon would do that. No sir. Not after how those ideals were betrayed and crushed by despair. If you watched fate zero and wanted it to end HF route… That’s helluva cruel wish man. After that scene depicting redemption at the very end of fate zero when ‘silver moon’ played, deep in my heart I knew heavens feel wouldn’t do the sequel any justice.

  • Natat

    So, what about animating the…

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    canceled Ilya route? Maybe showing how Shirou becomes Archer EMIYA? That would be interesting.
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    Either way, I’m hyped for now.

    • MrTyrant

      Oooh I forgot about the canceled Ilya route haha I want that D:

      • transferstudentx

        hmm illys route ? canceled ? when where what how i never heard about this before !!

        • XiaomuArisu

          In one of Tiger Dojo

        • Natat

          IIRC Ilya was at first planned to be one of the heroines, her route branching from Heaven’s Feel. They were going to separate the novel into Fate/Stay Night for Saber and Rin, and Fate/Other Night for Sakura and Ilya. But it would have been too expensive so they decided to cancel Ilya’s route and include Sakura’s into Stay Night.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Tohsaka

            Yup. This.

            Kinda like how Sacchin was supposed to have a route in Tsukihime. Though that may get rectified with the remake…

          • Natat

            Isn’t it sad, Sacchin?

            … I bet she’s not getting a route in the remake, not like it will ever be released.

          • transferstudentx

            SPOILERS interesting so can assume that the shirou in that route is the one who well transform into archer huh the 001% chance

          • natchu96

            The thing with Archer being that he doesn’t seem to recall much of this happening in regards to meeting himself (at least he doesn’t even mention it) . . . should there be a timeline where there was a different Archer and Shirou picked up his badassery on his own? Or can we just loop it back as a time paradox all at once?

          • J_Joestar

            I don’t think that is how it works, Regardless of the route/timeline, the EMIYA spirit that gets summoned into the war as Archer would have already had his personal history set in stone from the timeline he originally hailed from.
            So if the Shirou that became the Original EMIYA spirit that exists i the Throne of Heroes never met Archer in his youth, then no Servants created from that spirit should have that memory no matter how many new timelines get spawned.

            well that is the theory anyways.

          • GodLikesSnacks

            The original VN was an eroge, so I think the other reason Ilya didn’t got a route was that she is underaged.
            Still, it’d be fun to make choises in her story:

          • J_Joestar

            i doubt it would be that, Illya is about 18 years old.

  • Jahred Down

    Anyone else kinda hoped they made it less serious? Fate/Zero was good, but it was serious because that’s how Kirtsugu was. Emiya isn’t as serious, so I hoped i was going to be more “fun” than Zero.

    • Adrián Anthony

      What? Shirou’s almost perpetually scowling. He’s pretty serious.

    • MrTyrant

      Shirou in Heaven Feel is more serious but contrary to how Kiritsugu was as opposite ideals. One could sacrifice his love ones in order to save many while the other would sacrifice almost anyone in order to save his loved ones.

      • Aleister Crowley

        I’ve always found that funny, in a weird way.
        Fate: I’ll save everyone!
        UBW: I’ll save everyone and I’ll fight myself to prove my ideals!
        HF: Screw everyone!, except for that person in particular.

        • MrTyrant

          Yeah I agree because it’s kind of inconsistent and…stupid. I also didn’t like much Sakura and throw everything for her….but I love Rider so the true ending gave me a happy feeling because she lives D:

          • Ereek

            That’s pretty much my entire debate about HF. As much as I love Rider and appreciate how utterly different the route is,I have to give my preference to UBW because of it.

            And even then I still find Shirou less annoying in HF than in Fate.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            It has been long enough since my last whine that I will simply leave this link here. I know Li, Code, WildArms, Ishaan, Aunna, JustThisOne, Ashgail, Kaishou, Malek, Zero Destiny, Tuna, and even Aoihana would allow me to do this. Sorry but Yusaku is still lost to the wilds of China.

            https://twitter.com/MiauMiaut

          • Ereek

            Haha!

            I love you so much, just to let you know. I don’t mind the pressure I might eventually break. Maybe! Someday soon! Especially given Twitter is relatively less invasive than something like FB.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Do remember that on twitter you can always only follow who you wish.

            Code talks all the time about his ‘locals’ where he hooks up with fighting game friends there in the wilds of Canada. Li, Zero and are pure running buddies. I am still not sure how you missed a place in Wildy’s harem. Probably because you never made an account. There are folks we tweet to who you might not know and Tuna well, is the Tunafish you remember, love and wish to strangle.

            Follow me some time or start with any other of the old gang. They are kind of buried on my follows, but you would know the avatars on sight. It would be a great honor to have you say hi, Ereek.

          • malek86

            Whoops, time to change my avatar into something a bit more… recognizable.

          • MrTyrant

            I didn’t like Fate Hollow Ataraxia except for Bazzet/Avenger and more backstory for Rider/Caster with their funny moment but is not the same….that being said I would liked if she were a servant to chose in Fate Extra..

    • InvestedInYourFuture

      Implying that Shirou is not serious is the same as implying that Kirei is not serious. They are psychologically same after all.

  • Ereek

    Please, please not Fate route or a modified version of Fate route.

    I have some trouble thinking it’ll be Heaven’s Feel, as much as I’d like it to be. The reason is simple: Saber is a cash cow and, well, look at Saber’s role in Heaven’s Feel.

    Yeah.

  • Niyari

    Finally, ufotable expressed their desire to “properly write Shirou Emiya as a protagonist”

    wow shots fired. take cover, Deen

  • http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/25050-farm-mapping-contest/#entry239430 Chaos17

    Saber from Fate/Zero, I hope they won’t brain wash her and make her forget of what happened.

    • J_Joestar

      no, IIRC she recalls everything that happened.

  • Ni ~SHE MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN~

    And another parallel Fate/ universe is born. I hope that they go for Saber route and we can see a better “Fate Route”
    -
    ~meanwhile at the Tsukihime part of TM~

    I: THERE IS SOMEONE HERE!?
    *echo*
    THERE IS SOMEONE HERE!?


    SOMEONE HERE!?

    Here!?
    *echo ends*

    I: We should rename the “Tsukihime section” to “Akasha Section” because there’s nothing here

  • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 禍津水樹

    Which works for me, i loved Fate/Zero

  • Demonspartanx20

    Well if they make this more badass and serious (and go for the fate or an all new original route ) there won’t be continuity issues like when you look at the original fate stay night anime as a sequel to zero. If you looked at the original adaptation as a sequel to the anime fate/zero things become kind of screwy and questionable. Like for example Fate/Zero Kirei Kotomine’s fighting prowess was unsurpassed. Now if you watched Fate/stay night as after Zero, you’ll notice that Kirei didnt even fight Shirou and just used magic the entire time till Shirou stabbed him… If that man fought his father like he did there is no way Shirou could’ve won that fight lol Kirei could’ve ended his life without a second thought. Again I’m only stating this from the stand point of looking at the series before the remake announcement and thinking they are connected

  • Morningstar

    So they are gonna consolidate all three routes into one anime?

    Also would we expect an animate adaption of Hollow Atraxia?

    • InvestedInYourFuture

      Nope.
      Its unknown what they are adapting.

    • J_Joestar

      The original Fate route anime kinda did meshing routes already to some degree. I don’t think it is really possible to fully consolidate everything anyways as there are too many conflicting events.

  • Heropon

    I hope fate/prototype will be animated into TV series after this

    • DyLaN

      Or better, an otome visual novel.

      I don’t mind moar F/P though.

  • Suicunesol

    Am I the only one who’s really concerned about this anime?

    Fate Zero was good as a novel adaptation, and as a standalone anime, but as a part of the Fate universe, it was extremely dark, brooding, and wallowed in that atmosphere for the entirety of the series. Those who saw Fate/Zero first (and enjoyed it) will also expect a dark, if not darker, atmosphere for Fate/Stay Night. They will be disappointed. Granted, Kiritsugu was a cold-blooded assassin rather than a high school student, so it couldn’t be helped.

    It didn’t do a good job of introducing the magic of the Fate universe either, mainly because it followed Kiritsugu who was a professional assassin–NOT a Magi. On the other hand, Shirou was a mostly normal guy who was learning about magic and the magical world, which is a good perspective to introduce new viewers with.

    The producers probably realized that FSN had to appeal to Fate/Zero fans, which is why I’m concerned that they’re treating this as more of a “Fate/Zero 2″ rather than Fate/Stay Night. I don’t want a Fate/Zero 2. I want Fate/Stay Night.

    I’m also disappointed that Yuki Kajiura is returning. I used to like her music, but after hearing it in Tsubasa Chronicles, Madoka Magica, and then Fate/Zero, I really got tired over the “overepic” choir chants that were so often inserted. If I had my way, I’d hire Yoko Kanno to do the OST. Or bring Kenji Kawai back. And do a lot of VN music remixes.

    • Ereek

      I think you hit on one of my bigger issues with Fate/Zero: It really does an abysmal job of explaining the laws of magic in the Nasuverse, which is one of the major appeals of the entire series. This is going to come back and bite UFOTable in the butt in Fate/Stay Night, because things like “my body is made out of swords” isn’t going to sound as literal as it actually is.

      I mean, I understand that with something as complex and detailed as this you can’t just expect it to be explained straight out, since it would take half an episode and the jargon would turn most casual viewers away. However, there were a few filler sections that I think could have been used to explain the “rules” over time.

      I don’t think Fate/Zero was bad, mind you. I am also of mind, however, that trying to merge “the best” parts of all routes together is simply not possible and it will probably make this adaptation suffer.

      • Suicunesol

        Naw, Fate/Zero wasn’t bad. Not by a long shot. I totally enjoyed it.

        Merging the “best parts” of all the routes probably isn’t feasible. But I would understand, if ever they animated Heaven’s Feel, that some parts would have to be changed or “filled” up to be fair to every character. Take, for example, the way Lancer and Gilgamesh (and Caster?) died in Heaven’s Feel. If they died in the anime as unceremoniously as they did in the VN, viewers would never find out how cool Lancer is, or would never learn about Caster. Heaven’s Feel favored the development of background characters, so characters that previously held center stage were quickly killed off.

        • J_Joestar

          Rider still has the least representation among the servants in the FSN animes, my friends who didn’t read the VN still have no clue who she is (True Identity not that they don’t recall a smexy purple haired lady.)

          • Suicunesol

            I don’t blame them. If they didn’t know better, most viewers might have thought her to be Assassin rather than Rider. :p

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      @Suicunesol:disqus @Ereek:disqus I’m concerned, too, but I think I have a slightly more positive outlook on this than the both of you, for a bunch of reasons.

      For starters, Fate/Stay Night has already been adapted in so many ways over the years. We’ve had the original game, an anime series, multiple movies, and several manga adaptations as well. Ufotable are a smart bunch, and I think they realize this, which is why they’re saying upfront that Nasu is providing them with all sorts of background information that didn’t even make it into the original game.

      That’s going to be how they try to set this apart from previous adaptations. I don’t think they’re aiming to try and replicate previous Fate/Stay adaptations, but rather, the “feel of Nasu” as they said in the Type-Moon interview. As long as they preserve that slice-of-life feel that Nasu conveys in so much of his work, I see hope for this show.

      Of course, there are a bunch of questions about this show that are still up in the air. Since this is a “story for next-generation children,” I have to wonder what sort of concessions they’ll have to make in order to appeal to a younger audience. I don’t mind a few aesthetic changes such as different clothing like they’ve hinted at, but I would be mortified if we saw anything like the redesigns for the Tsukihime remake.

  • http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/recognition/21421.html?type=4 Kashell

    Fear the rock paper scissors anime!

  • Maiko Gabriel Kinzel Engelke

    It’s pretty obvious from just looking at the trailer, since Alter Berserker and Shirou’s Arm appeared in flashes. It’s Heaven’s Feel, no doubt about that.

    • InvestedInYourFuture

      Except that :
      1) the “trailer” contains scenes from ufotable-made opening videos to 2012 re-release of the game.
      2) it also contains scenes from ubw and fate routes.
      3) the trailer also was made way before they even started thinking about what will be in the anime(the clips are more for showcasing ufotable animation)
      4) You can’t adapt HF without adapting other routes first.
      5) the interview in the magazine that the above info is from makes it clear that its fate adaptation with more expanded focus on Shirou’s personality and references to F/0

  • Ric Vazquez

    HYPETRAIN INBOUND GET ABOARD!

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