New Nintendo 3DS And New Nintendo 3DS XL Announced, Are More Powerful

By Sato . August 29, 2014 . 4:30am

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In this morning’s Nintendo 3DS Direct, they revealed the latest models of the Nintendo 3DS with the New Nintendo 3DS XL (LL in Japan) and New Nintendo 3DS.

 

The New 3DS has screen size that is 1.2 times larger than the regular 3DS, with new colorful buttons based off the Super Famicom controllers.

 

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Meanwhile, Nintendo have also added a small joystick on the right-side, that is based off the Gamecube’s C-stick, which will come in handy for games like Smash Bros. and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate.

 

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The ZR and ZL buttons that are on the Circle Pad Pro are also included in the new 3DS series, in addition to newer brightness adjustments, and improved 3D viewing angles.

 

New Nintendo 3DS will also use Micro-SD cards as well, along with a new feature that will make it easier to transfer media files to and from PCs. It’ll also have an improved browser that’ll make things easier to browse the internet, along with user filters for the younger fans.

 

The CPU is getting powered up, and downloading software will also be faster than ever, and past software will all still be available to play on the new models.

 

The price will go for 16,000 yen for the New Nintendo 3DS, 18,800 yen for the New Nintendo 3DS XL, when it gets released on October 11, 2014 in Japan.

 

It was also noted that the New Nintendo 3DS models aren’t expected to be released in North America or Europe within the year.


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  • Namuro

    Yep, I’m buying 3DS again… 2 more, in fact.

    Just when I was wondering how Nintendo will keep selling its hardware, when so many people have already bought them, this will keep even someone like me who already owned 2, buying more! Nintendo, you clever, you!

    Apart from adding more buttons like the much needed c-stick, the extra shoulder buttons; the thing that got me excite the most was the fixed 3D viewing! That’s incredible. Now, there’s no reason not to use them! (when you’re not running out of battery, that is)

    Then, there’s the choice between the normal one and the LL, and to balance the features out, they made the small one with the ability to swap the face plates! Surely, a lot of people, especially kids and women will be delighted by this. People who complained about how there are no designs that face the same way like a laptop, should be satisfied as well. As for me? I’m really tempted, but I’ll get the LL for sure.

    Also, I was saying to myself “There’s better be an MH4G limited, damn you.”, and boom! There it is! Nintendo can read me like a book…

    Now, time to say goodbye to my old 3DS (not my limited Gore version, of course), and welcome the new ones into the family!

    Oh, and hooray for Shulk, whoo! Xeno Blade on the 3DS is super awesome, too. I’ll definitely be getting it!

    • http://www.facebook.com/MHKogath Kogath

      Yeah, the MH4G one. =^)

      • 하세요

        I cannot afford another Japanese LL, especially a fresh one off the market, knowing damn well it will be tough selling this regular LL.

        I really don’t need a C-Stick nor extra triggers. I’ll upgrade my NA one to a New 3DS XL though.

        • Namuro

          Even if I can’t sell off the old one, I don’t care. I’ll work my butts off to get this brand-new baby!

          No longer shall I have to lug around an extra-heavy LL, no longer shall I have to fix my head at a perfect angle to enjoy games in 3D… It’s more powerful, and it’s lighter! Plus, there’s a 4G edition coming!

          You shall be mine!!!

          • 하세요

            I got school and shit to pay for. I’m pushing it as-is with this Japanese one already, lol. The overall enhancements don’t entice me enough. As long as this doesn’t effect my MH experience, I’m good.

            NA one will see this lovely upgrade though. I just don’t want any JP exclusive games that I may enjoy in the future to be “New 3DS only” like Xeno.

  • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san

    Glad I never picked up a XL; I’ll just wait for this to come over.

    • Bur

      Same. I was going to get one when Smash came out, but now I’ll just wait for this beauty to upgrade!

      • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san

        Totally agree. My Vita, with its wide screen, made me not want to play my 3DS anymore. Soon I’ll have a reason to resume playing it again.

        • Skeledon

          Do you play video games for the games or just for the consoles you play them on? lol

          • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san

            I play games for gaming sake, it’s just hard to go back to something when I’m used to something that is better. Why do you think some gamers can’t go back to using the original 3DS once they got a XL?

  • Nicholas Perry

    hnnnnnngg

  • ヴィンチェンゾ Vincenzo

    I need them here, they’re perfect, and the skins are amazing as well.

  • DATGuywholikesXchickenX

    after i just bought a 3ds xl for smash bros 3ds. this happens.
    there goes my mulla.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MHKogath Kogath

    Typo control:
    “based off the Sumer Famicom controllers.”

  • shadowind

    I’m definitely buying the new 3DS XL although I’m curious as to whether it’s easy to transfer games from one 3DS to another?

    • Link

      System Transfer is pretty simple, just have both consoles and start the System transfer option on the original with the new one as the target console. Transfer should take a few mins depending on how much stuff you have and bam your done.

      • shadowind

        Thanks for that advice, and I take it that it’s safe to delete all the data on the old 3DS XL once it’s transferred to the new one? Also, can people back up their data including games to a PC or Mac?

        • Link

          All your data is transferred after the System Transfer so the old 3DS is wiped clean at the same time, so no need for you to bother with that stuff. And yes, simply put your SD card into a reader and copy the files to your desktop as a backup. If you want to put them in a new SD card just copy the files onto your desktop onto the new card and your good to go.

          • shadowind

            It’s good that I can back up the games as I’ve read a lot of nightmare stories in the past how things work with Nintendo’s online store compared to PSN which is way better at this sort of thing…

          • HarakiriKami

            Err? Backing up your saves wont help with you losing access to the licenses of the games you bought.

            But you dont have to deal with that anymore since the 3DS has the NNID.

          • shadowind

            How does the NNID work, exactly?

          • HarakiriKami
  • 하세요

    Won’t lie, I like dem button colors.

    • http://s932.photobucket.com/ usagi_san

      Feels like a return to the SNES.

  • Link

    The Xenoblade 3DS Port is exclusive to the New 3DS due to its stronger CPU. So this is actually getting an exclusive game not available to the original 3DS and XL owners.

    • Stranger On The Road

      I only see news regarding Shulk being in Smash Bros.; are you saying that the Wii’s Xendblade has been announced for the 3DS? And to the new model only!

      Edit: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/29/xenoblade-chronicles-remake-announced-new-nintendo-3ds/

      • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

        Yep. Excite mode activate!

        • Stranger On The Road

          well, I guess I’ll buying the new XL model once it is out… must play Xenoblade….. own 2 copes for the Wii, but never got around to playing it.

          Hopefully I’ll do that on the 3DS :-)

      • Link

        Yes, Siliconera is probably working on the article as we speak but a Xenoblade port has been announced for the New 3DS.

  • Princess_Eevee9

    All my want.

  • Senpai

    Nintendo is proving yet again that they dominate the handheld hardware business.

    • Christopher C

      that depends on the hardware specs, so far adding a much-lacking c-stick isn’t an improvement, it’s fixing an old problem and complaint of users.
      It depends on if it’s more powerful than the vita, which is definitely more powerful than the current 3DS.

  • Kalis Konig

    In Japan they get a Smash Bros New 3DS in November don’t they? If America gets that smash bundle New 3DS then I will be waiting until November to buy smash lol. Man that Direct was Amazing so I am sure a lot of that will be shown at PAX today. I am seriously hyped! I only wish that Nintendo could do what they do for 3DS with the Wii U. Totally worth staying up for! Shulk trailer, Xenoblade 3DS, and a new more powerful better looking 3DS. So glad I did not buy an XL yet lol

  • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

    Want.

  • SirRichard

    Oh yes, I’m down as hell with this. The buttons, the colour-scheme, the lot. When are we getting a Direct for this thing, Nintendo?

  • Tenetan

    So will the screen resolution increase to? if htey gonna yet again increase the screen size and not the resolution it’s not gonna be good, it already look quite terrible iwth the gigantic pixles on the 3DS XL. I would understand if the older games won’t run in higher resolution but if they already making new games only for the system they really should implement it for them.

    • Link

      Resolution seems to be the same but (dont take my word for it, going off loosely based translations) it seems that the pixel density may have increased, so while its still 240p the image should be crisper.

  • zxcz44

    Nintendo has, and will continue taking my money this generation.

  • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

    Looking good. But I think I’ll wait for a Special Edition that’s worth it this time. I missed out on a Special Edition 3DS XL when Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate came out. Unfortunately, the new 3DS models aren’t coming out in time for a SSB Special Edition, but if they have one for MH4U, I’m NOT missing out!

    • Thatguy

      I don’t think that MicroSD cards are expensive. Only Vita’s memory cards are expensive

      • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

        Yeah, I wasn’t sure about Micro SD Cards, but I know about Sony’s methods and Sony constantly irritate me to extremes on that. They have their own unique cards and charge a bucket load of money for them. So I shelled out for the biggest, most expensive card and what do they do next? Nearly every game I want is ****ing digital only! Soon enough, I’m going to have to get a 2nd one and repeat the days of the PS2 when I would have to constantly switch between 2 memory cards. GOD Sony frustrate me so…

      • shadowind

        Hopefully the new ones will support 128gb Micro SD cards! Think of all the henta-, er I mean episodes of Fairy Tail and ToQer that I could watch on it…

        • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

          Now you’re talking! I hope support will be available for our ethical uses.

          • shadowind

            But think of ALL the porn and Hentai you could watch on it if you’re into that sort of thing! ^_-

          • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

            Of course. There is an opportunity to watch some beautiful plot. ;)

    • Link

      Bought a 32GB MicroSD for my current 3DS(with an adapter of course) for 15$. Not expensive at all.

      • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

        Good to know. Edited my original post, then.

    • Christopher C

      you’re confusing it with the vita mem cards.

      • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

        We’ve already established that…

  • Milewide

    Who wants to buy my 3DS XL? :p

    In all seriousness though. I’ll only buy this if a must-have game appears that is also exclusive to the new hardware or plays noticeably better.

    But that price… it’s pretty reasonable isn’t it? Still, I’d like to see exact tech specs before I even dare to get excited about this.

    • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

      That price is reasonable. It almost makes me wish more a moment that I had waited on getting my 3DS XL…but that quickly passed because I love it! :)

      However, I am going to wait and see. Nintendo did this with the DSi (making upgrades) as well so I want to see support before I decide to take a plunge.

      • Milewide

        I wasn’t into handheld gaming around the DS’s lifetime. But people were quite upset with DSi, weren’t they? Or am I remembering things wrongly?

        • Christopher C

          people didn’t like it didn’t have backwards compatibility for gba games.

        • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

          I can’t speak for everyone but I didn’t like it’s lack of game support for it’s cameras and the removal of the GBA slot (although I still owned my GBA so it was not an issue for me).

          In addition, the XL version came out 7 months after the NA launch, upsetting some who took the plunge without waiting.

    • HarakiriKami

      xenoblade

      • Milewide

        Unless the game has been improved from the Wii version it wouldn’t be worth getting a new console to play. And it wouldn’t be exclusive either.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Yeah, 3DS isn’t losing the lead in Japan any time soon. Not with this coming out the same day as Monster Hunter and stuff like Xenoblade to follow.

    • Namuro

      Should be interesting to see how much the new models can sell.

      Also, I think it’s really clever of them to have only the small model able to swap the face plates. This should balance out the sales between the 2 models.

  • http://LevelUpGeneration.blogspot.com/ KALiverin

    It looks alright, but I’ll have to wait and see if this is worth it. I already have two 3DS’s, the original and an XL. I don’t really need three. Haven’t played any games so far that demand that I need a second circle pad.

  • chibidw

    Full Capcom ahead on the Ultimate 3DS XL Hyper Turbo. I’m just gonna hold out a few more months for the SE model with rich Corinthian leather upholstery, heated seating and on-the-fly temperature-controlled Air Conditioning.

    • HarakiriKami

      So a 3DSXL with a zelda skin?

  • kliskur

    I would buy it if they used better material than the current 3DS XL. I hate the sound it make when I flip it open.. Unlike the normal 3DS or Dsi that don’t make a sound.. 3DS XL got that crack sound..

    So yeah..

    • CozyAndWarm

      That’s because the top screen locks in place.

      • kliskur

        I hate that.

        • CozyAndWarm

          Better than having a screen you can’t keep still, though.

          • kliskur

            Well I hope they still make the new 3DS with better material. Maybe the crack sound won’t be so loud. Lol Maybe I just afraid I’m going to snap my 3DS xl in half..

          • CozyAndWarm

            The XL is a durable thing. You can shove that screen open or closed as violently as you want, that cracking sound is MEANT to be there.

          • kliskur

            Still scared..

  • May_Patra

    Oh boy… I finally coughed up the money for a 3DS exactly one year ago as of today and now there is already a new model. lol
    Well, it looks good. I’m excited for more details. :)

  • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

    Now I’m just wondering if we can play music while we play. I want. Badly.

  • shadowind

    I just did a price conversion and it seems that the New 3DS XL price in the UK is equivalent to about £110 in the UK roughly, although we all know it’ll be a lot more outside Japan… *wishes that region free 3DSes were available*

    • Armane

      Convert it to USD and then add a pound sign. Should be about £180 for the XL.

      Nintendo can go fuck themselves.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

        I say it would be £199.99. Same price as what these limited edition 3DS XL cost.

        • Armane

          Sadly you’re probably right.

  • Attribule

    This is what the 3DS and 3DS LL(XL) should have been from the beginning. A bit late, but I give them credit for actually listening to feedback which was definitely unexpected. Now they have no excuse for their next generation handheld to lack basic features.

    This news is a bit unfortunate for me since I only just recently imported an LL. I doubt I’d be able to justify replacing it before the 3DS generation itself is obsolete.

    • John Diamond

      luckily for me, i was gonna buy one, but now i know that i can wait

  • Antillery

    I was going to sell my original 3DS so I could buy the Smash Bros bundle coming to Europe but now I guess I’ll be holding off. Hope the Xenoblade port will also be coming our way as I haven’t had a chance to play it yet.

  • gquain

    S-Should I cancel my Smash XL Bundle preorder?
    I don’t like the idea of switching to XL with a skin as lame as the smash cover with a bashing price of 240euros and then find out that Japan already gets the better looking, better performing 3ds version in about months.

    No way this isn’t coming to europe, I can save about 100bucks if I settle with a plain white model until the new 3ds model comes out. I am confused, should I, shouldn’t I? Damn, I need to act fast…

    • Ben Green

      I’d say cancel your Smash Bundle preorder and wait until this new model is out, as it will obviously be superior to the 3DS XL and have more games. And i can see Ninty actually releasing SNES and GBA VC for this new model, so…

      • gquain

        Preorder cancelled.
        I really think that Nintendo might release the N3dsl XL just right after holiday seasons.

        Thanks.

    • http://operationrainfall.com/author/starstabbedmoon/ Raymond Dwyer
  • freestylinyoshi

    This is just one of the reasons why I stopped buying Nintendo.

    • kliskur

      wow.. You bought Nintendo before huh.. Nice.. You should tell them to make new Pokemon Stadium when you bought Nintendo..

      • freestylinyoshi

        That was so funny, I almost forgot to laugh. Wait, still not laughing.

  • Christopher C

    Oh? Is it that time already?

  • Go2hell66

    so who’s mad?

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Kaleido-Ruby

      Not I, said the cat.

      I bought a launch 3DS for chump change so if I get a deal by bumping up through GS for a low, low price I’ll do it. I’m not under pressure at all to spend 150-200 dollars on a new portable.

    • Shippoyasha

      More confused than mad for me. They should have doubled down on a whole new identity than slap ‘new’ on it. I thought they’d learn a lesson after Wii U. Thankfully this is a handheld so it won’t likely have the sales issue of home systems.

      • HarakiriKami

        Its worked before.

        plus it aint a new console

        • Shippoyasha

          The problem to me is that they literally slapped the ‘new’ word in there. I agree it’s not the same exact scenario, but the naming really isn’t that catchy to me.

  • CozyAndWarm

    So… with the more powerful CPU, does that mean games can only be made for either the original 3DS hardware or the new 3DS hardware? Won’t that completely fragment the library and userbase?

    I know these new features have been in demand for a while now, but I think it will only confuse the market and cause more problems than improvements. They should have just waited until a fully new handheld release imo.

    • Alter

      Especially when they name it ‘New’ Nintendo 3DS. WTF, Total Confusion.

      • HarakiriKami

        Its rather simple in japanese

    • ScoobyDum

      This isn’t new, Game Boy Color has exclusive games, the cartridges were black. The DSi also had exclusive games as well as the first eshop.

      • roydgriffin

        Actually the GBC games you could also play on a normal game boy were black, exclusives were transparent! :)

    • PreyMantis

      It will basically be like DS to DSi where the original DS has some features stripped off the DSi has as extra fetures (remember Pokemon Black/White/2 with the video chat on the DSi and no video chat on the regular DS? Yeah, Xenoblade is mostly will be like that.)

      • Dwight Goodman

        That’s incorrect, Xenoblade will not be playable on older versions of the console at all.

  • Uvers

    Only because it looks like SNES I must buy the white new 3ds

  • mojack411

    I wonder if there will be some sort of external upgrade for the old 3DS’s. Otherwise this seems like a new console rather than a new iteration.

    Anyways, I know this pisses a lot of people off but it works out for me. I’ve had one of the original 3DS’s since day one. I had been looking to upgrade to an XL for a while but now I’ll just hold out for this. I know there aren’t a lot of people like me but regardless I’m really happy.

    • pressstart

      I have both the original 3DS and XL, but I’m still happy for this. I have gotten a ton of use out of both 3DS’, so I don’t feel slighted at all.

  • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

    Fragmenting an already feeble and shaky market is not a smart move. Nintendo should have focused on strengthening their already established market instead of weakening it with this new device. It will only confuse newcomers and make others rage. What are you thinking Ninty??

    • HarakiriKami

      Of their next device

    • PreyMantis

      Remember the doom-gloom articles and people’s complaint when the 3DS came out? That’s what happened.

    • idrawrobots

      ragers gonna rage.

      • Shippoyasha

        Evenheaded concern is not rage. Don’t start.

    • NeptuniasBeard

      Lol. If anyone actually gets confused about something called the NEW 3 DS, then humanity is truly a lost cause. I will phone my planet to annihilate the lot of you

      • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

        Remember the Wii/WiiU debacle? Plus you should have heard a few years ago how they were selling the iPad/new iPad in certain malls where I’m based. A lot of customers are misinformed either by ignorance or on purpose by mean sellers. This is humanity; where are you living dear?

        • HarakiriKami

          but its a NEW 3DS

          SHIN KAi HOSHA NEW SURI DI ESSU DAI YO NO DAIRANTOU SMASHU BROTHA

  • Ben Green

    Guys, chill. This is not a new handheld, like the 3DS was to the DS. It’s basically just a stronger 3DS with more features and some exclusive content, kinda like how the DSi was the to the 3DS. 3DS will still be supported for at least 2-3 more years, it’s far too soon for Ninty to release a new handheld now, and they’re not dumb enough to abandon their biggest source of income just like that.

    • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

      Except the DSi had shitty games noone really craved. They’re pulling the big guns for this version (aka starting with Xenoblade Chronicles which is a huge game)…so yeah you can say it’s “kinda” a new device for those who already bought the regular ones. Not hating just making a counter-argument.

      • Ben Green

        Believe me man, I’m a bit annoyed that i’ll have to buy a new 3ds if i want to enjoy some of the (amazing, if Xenoblade is anything to account for) upcoming games, but the 3DS will still be supported. Now if they released SNES and GBA VC for this thing, It would be just great.

        • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

          Like I want to believe what you’re saying, but I am 90% sure the next Zelda/Mario they’re gonna pull out will be exclusive for the new 3DS (argumenting that with the “new” CPU they can only make those for that device). It’s just a matter of time now. Something tells me this move was a way to counter the lawsuit that was imposed on them. They created a new tech so as not to continue paying on each device they sell.

          • Ben Green

            Hmm well, if Nintendo does stop supporting the 3DS with first-party games, i’d be hella pissed. Imagine not being able to play the newest 3DS Zelda on your actual 3DS. But would they really alienate 40million people like that? The backlash would be huge and far too damaging. I’d personally blacklist them for good.

          • Göran Isacson

            A lawsuit? That’s interesting, haven’t heard about that one. Which lawsuit is this?

          • http://keiserone.tumblr.com/ KeiserOne

            Apparently they infringed on the 3D tech of someone, and have been paying him a fee on every.single.3DS sold. So this iteration (as I understand) permits you to see in 3D at every angle, which means they changed the tech this time around. Basically giving that person the middle finger lol.

          • Göran Isacson

            Oooh, tricksy of them. One wonders if this will pay off for them though- I suppose they wanted the full profits from each sold unit for themselves (understandable), but will this sell in high enough numbers to recover whatever potential loss of profit that the lawsuit gave them?

          • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

            This is an interesting point actually, and will be funny if true.

      • PreyMantis

        I’m sure Xenoblade will be like Pokemon Black/White/2 (no video chat and extra features on regular DS that the DSi has) where you can still play the game on a regular 3DS without the other features the New 3DS has.

        • luckgandor

          I don’t think that’ll be the case. Xenoblade will take advantage of the more powerful CPU of the New 3DS. Apparently they wanted to do it for the 3DS but couldn’t.

  • Agito

    well time to sell my old 3ds and get this new one. because i really want to play xenoblade on this!

  • I-e-on

    is it still region locked

    • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

      Yes~.

  • persona_yuji

    Hum…new model with stronger CPU…but still no second analod stick?

    *Edit* WHOOPS just noticed that tiny little stick*

    • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

      it has a little baby one above the colored buttons. ^_^

      • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

        … Honestly, I thought that was the power button.

        • persona_yuji

          Yeah… me too. :P

    • David_c

      well it have 2nd analog stick called C-stick

    • Namuro

      Look again. Or just wait for the English direct. That should answer all your questions.

      • persona_yuji

        I did edit the comment by adding the fact that I noticed it.

        • Namuro

          The edited part wasn’t there when I commented. LOL

  • XypherCode

    I know I’m the odd one out. But I think this is, in one way or another, a good move on Nintendo’s part. With new smart phones and tablets emerging so frequently these days, Nintendo needs to hook players in, especially who never had a 3DS before. In a business standpoint, this is pretty smart. I know the current 3DS install base is still quite small compared to DS. And a lot of 3DS owners will feel alienated. But we have to understand the current market situation first before ranting on something we don’t even have a basis on. I’m sure Nintendo knows this as well. We’ll just have to wait and see. We actually don’t need to buy a new one unless you’re into exclusivity. I’m pretty sure Ninty would still support the current models if you consider the standing install base, even until the 3DS’ lifespan.

  • Shadowman

    What! No crimson red?

  • http://output1-2.bandcamp.com/ db4johnny

    Come on Nintendo of America… get them here by the holidays. I want this badly.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    I wonder if this means that the new 3DS will be on par or above the PSV? I doubt the PSV could’ve handled a game like XC~.

    • Guest

      Wake me up when 3DS can handle PSO2 with 12 character party. LOL

      What i’m getting at is the New 3DS couldn’t run PSO2 any better than Vita if it ported 1:1 from Vita version. XC 3DS too is downgraded to hell from Wii version, very aggressive Level of Details (LOD) and models has lower polycount too, it’s very visible.

      • ScoobyDum

        The vita can barely handle PSO2, so I don’t know what your getting at.

        • Guest

          Barely? not at all, it runs nice. I play it on my vita more than on my PC.

          • Brandonmkii

            I have to second the nigh impossible play on the vita. It’s pretty bad. Not terrible, but inconsistent frame rate and terrible textures make me not want to play it if I’m out and about.

    • Oxybelis

      New 3DS is just an improvement of core clocks. PSV is light years ahead tech wise.

    • Max Leo

      I’m pretty sure Vita could EASILY handle a game like Xenoblade. Just a few tweaks here and there.

  • Fox

    Too soon, Nintendo. What, are they going to replace the WiiU next year? I think I’m done with Nintendo hardware now; I’ve lost confidence.

    • Kaijumaster

      Too soon? I bought my 3ds 3.5 years ago…

    • Histirea

      It’s not a new system. It’s a hardware upgrade. For a handheld over 3 years old.

  • http://youtube.com/user/Chubunater Chubunato

    Eh my old 3ds is getting those line marks above the screen anyway. I can see myself upgrading to this

  • kylehyde

    As an early adopter this is a nice chance to upgrade, I liked everything I saw on it, I hope it gets released soon in the next year, but still I don’t know which model to buy, the battery life will help me to decidi this answer

    • Namuro

      New 3DS: 3.5 ~ 6 hours

      New 3DS LL: 3.5 ~ 7 hours

      • kylehyde

        Thanks you I guess I will go for the New 3DS XL

        • Namuro

          I’m getting the XL as well. But man, you can swap the front plates for the small one…

          Nope! Nope! I’m getting the XL!

          • http://blackstar2661.deviantart.com/ SilverSpades

            The only reason I’m slightly hesitant on getting an XL is because of the screen resolution… how bad is it compared to the original model’s?

          • Namuro

            It never once crossed my mind that the games look bad on the XL. The resolution sure is sharper on the normal 3DS, but once I went big-screen on the XL, I could no longer play on the tiny screen.

            In summary, I think it looks great.

          • idrawrobots

            Games look fine of the 3DS and honestly after getting the XL it’s hard to go back and play on a plain ol’ 3DS.

        • idrawrobots

          Wait, do you want the New 3DS or a new New 3DS?

  • AzureFlare

    I just recently upgraded to an XL. I’ve had the early 3DS ever since then, so I’m a little bit upset over this…. Might have to pack a mean punch if the some content or games will be seriously exclusive to this handheld console alone. From the previous comments, I read that Xenoblade is exclusive to this? Is that for real? They’re not going to release Xenoblade for the other 3DS’s? Because that would be incredibly vile. What a way to discriminate, pal. (Also, I love the color blue for that new XL. Hated Aqua Blue, /one/ of the reasons why I upgraded to the blue XL, and then this one comes around… HELLA RAD.)

  • Konoha the Wiper

    increase the god damn screen resolution of the xl

    • idrawrobots

      and what would be the point of that if all the games still only rendered in the reggy 3DS resolution?

      • Konoha the Wiper

        there is 2d mode and also normal ds games that are displayed in lower resolution when played on the xl

    • Shippoyasha

      That’s what gets me. I wished they would have doubled down and make an entirely new system with actually high def screens.

      • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

        Fully agree. If we are going to be putting in more power, adding a c stick, and stating that you can’t play powerful “new” games on a current 3DS, they should have went all out with HD screens and came out with a brand new system.

        This feels so much like the DSi situation to me. I would not be surprised if in less than 2 years they come out with a new handheld, and having all “new” games be b/w compatible.

        Doing it now, might have been too costly for consumer retail.

        • Shippoyasha

          I have always hated the c stick idea. It’s never comfortable and every other competitors made it a real second stick. It’s not a terrible thing to do, Ninty.

          And yeah. I struggle with visual quality with most handhelds when my phone does 1080p with ease. Meanwhile, newer phones will do 4K soon. Crazy.

          • HarakiriKami

            It probably wouldnt hit.

            And none of your phone apps display at that resolution. Its all upscaled crap that looks like shit.

          • Shippoyasha

            Not all are upscaled. Some games look absolutely eye popping and extremely sharp, actually. They are only a few anti aliasing filters away from looking like a PS3/360 game.

  • Stephen Mc Devitt

    I’ll wait and see. At least I now know I can transfer all my data from one 3DS to another. The question is who can I give it to.

  • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

    First of all:
    WHAT
    Second:
    THE FUCK!?

    … Nah, just kidding. This moves kinda make sense and my opinion why is:

    - Better CPU:
    I hope with this the 3ds starts up faster because normal 3ds takes a while to start up. And maybe just my case but on some games I experience a couple of framedrop when 3D is on, if that’ll be fixed then neat!
    - Small 3ds screen semingly improved:
    My regular 3ds have like two scratched pillars on the sides :V
    Hopefully this new model fixes. Also, since the speakers are not conected to the screen it’s unlikely it’ll collect dust inside my screen, my 3ds has a lot of dust inside so yaaay new 3ds but… I wish they though about this sooner or are they doing this on purpose? :V
    - Better 3D:
    YES. It’s kinda hard to play sometimes when your head have to be fixed on one position and for a person like me that enjoys the 3D on my 3ds that’s good in my book~
    - Exclusive titles.
    This actually kinda pisses me off but it kinda makes sense.
    I won’t enter into details but yah, you can pirate the current 3ds games like good ol times of the Ds but with these new models probably coming with newer firmwares will prevent that and with exclusives coming up it will convince a good chunk to move away so yeah, makes sense as long as they put good shit as exclusives.
    - New shoulder buttons.
    Eh, I suppose it’s meant for the exclusive games so whatever for now.
    - New stick.
    What a lame stick :V
    In my opinion they should’ve placed it below the button and a lil bigger. (And I thought PSP’s stick was small)
    Durable Battery.
    MUCH YES. Do I need say more? Usual 3ds battery sucks, hard. :V

    Well overall…. I want ;_;

  • Mila

    Desperate move .. They really want to kill the Vita in anyway
    I told you people i was right ~

    • hng qtr

      I don’t think that was the idea, the Vita has its own niche on Japan that doesn’t overlap too much with the 3DS and in other countries it’s almost irrelevant.

    • Namuro

      Desperate? Have you checked the sales figures recently?

      • Mila

        That’s not the point , i’m talking about the people who still buy Vita in Japan , Nintendo wants the Vita to suffer and force 3rd party companies to ignore it that’s why they make an upgraded version for 3DS to match up with the Vita power
        desperate Nintendo is still desperate .. and evil when it comes to business , wake up fanboys ^_^

        • Agito

          I don’t think that they did it to make the vita suffer.

          this was made to those that want a better 3ds. things that people wished were on the 3ds have now arrived at last with this new model.

          however i will agree that the vita will have even more trouble when competing with the 3ds. even if the specs for vita (might) be better than the new 3ds, the idea for a stronger 3ds will attract a lot of people, both from companies and customers.

          • Mila

            Trust me , they did it 100% for that purpose and even more , Nintendo knows that their fans accept anything even when it comes to region lock , Nintendo is already taking greed to the next level and its insulting that people easily fall for their business tricks .. like it doesn’t even feels handhelds anymore and its not even funny , its like a standalone DLC and its not even DLC , Handhelds to them might be considered DLC’s

      • Oxybelis

        I have. 2x decline this year. This should up sales.

  • hng qtr

    Eh, not that bothered by this, I was thinking about replacing my old 3DS for a XL but I think it’s oversized, so that new model is ideal for me. But what abou the resolution? I t was the worst thing of the original models.

  • dragoon_slayer12

    I been called this! I’m excited, but what took them so long? They should have done this as the First XL variant. Either way, I’m getting day one. Hopefully this releases in time for Smash Bros.

  • Anesia Hunter

    i just don’t know if i’m ready to upgrade to another 3ds still. i mean i still have pearl pink 3ds from the first gen 3dses and the very reason i wanted one (and this specific color) was so that i can play senran kagura games on 3ds. i bought it even when there was absolute silence on whether or not we’d even get the series. so this 3ds still has some serious sentimental value to me. plus, i bought SKB day 1, which is before the current account system was implemented, so i don’t know if i’ll be able to transfer my copy of SKB to a new 3DS.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jefriputra Jeff

      yes you can transfer it, i already doing system transfer for 3 times now and my first 3ds is just few month after it released then i move to xl and finally i go back to original 3ds

  • Nonscpo

    I’m sure MH4U will work with that second analog stick but I’m wondering about MH3U, would it work automatically or would it need a patch?

    • ShimaPantsu

      Assuming they are compatible, it would probably read it as if a CPP was there.

    • hng qtr

      It will probably work just like the CPP. Unless they’re planning to release ANOTHER CPP for the new models, but that’s too retarded even by Nintendo standards.

  • Pandakids09 .

    Haha somewhat called this too! I hope Nintendo finally one of its biggest flaws on the 3Ds not making it region free was one of their dumbest ideas ever

    • Namuro

      Good for you.

      Bad for business.

      If you’re working for Nintendo, which would you choose?

  • raeldor

    This is awesome news. The 3DS is definitely due an upgrade as far as resolution and power is concerned. The LL will be a day-one purchase for me for sure as long as the resolution is higher. If they’ve kept the resolution the same, forget about it.

    • HarakiriKami

      Why would the resolution be higher? They made the 3D better and the screen density has improved.

      • raeldor

        I don’t really care that much about the 3D, I always play with it off. The only pull for me would be a higher resolution that makes the kanji easier to read.

        • HarakiriKami

          The 3D improves the screen resolution. Games look worse without it.

          • raeldor

            That’s true for the graphics, but not for the text, as the text has no stereo separation.

          • hng qtr

            Judging by the images it’s still using the same technology of showing too different images at the same time. I don’t see how the 3D effect will improve the resolution more than it improved on the original 3DS.

          • HarakiriKami

            They improved the 3D and it stays in your viewing angle all the time due to a gyroscopic camera that tracks your position

          • hng qtr

            And how this make the resolution better?

      • hng qtr

        “screen density has improved”
        How? If the resolution is the same but the screen is bigger then wouldn’t itbe less dense?

        • HarakiriKami

          The images look crisper and clearer

          • hng qtr

            But how?

        • raeldor

          I’m not even sure what they mean by ‘screen density’, but it doesn’t sound like they are talking about ‘pixel density’.

  • Kaibun

    Well, while I’m glad I haven’t bought a 3DS yet, the non-japanese version really needs to come out close to the Smash Bros release date.Having to wait until the next year is gonna suck.

  • Azure Flame

    I already have a 3DS but I was planning on getting an XL next year. Guess I’ll have to wait for this one when it goes to the US.

  • Rarecandy

    And I was just thinking I wanted a XL for Smash Bros. I guess that seals the deal, I’d rather a newer (better) model than a bigger version of one I already have. Will be a shame if it’s not out for Christmas in NA…

  • charles

    Lets hope for a trade in program.

    If it had Region Free. This would be soo awesome. It would mean day one buy from japan for me with MH4G. Knowing I can still play my American games on it.

  • Tetris

    The only thing that could make this even better is it being region free.

  • DarkRPGMaster

    A suggestion for you Nintendo, rebrand that as the Super 3DS. Because right now the name is confusing.

    • HarakiriKami

      but it aint a new console

      • Alter

        but it’s clearly confusing, someone’s mum could buy old 3DS by mistake when her son asked for the new one.

      • pimpalicious

        It looks like games like the Xenoblade Chronicles remake can’t be played on the 3DS/XL/2DS so basically it is, kinda like the GBC.

        • HarakiriKami

          GBC wasnt a new console nor was the DSi

          • pimpalicious

            Many games could only be played on the GBC. People with original Gameboys had to buy one to play those games. So, yeah it was new hardware.

          • HarakiriKami

            The DSi was the same case

      • DarkRPGMaster

        The name itself is the problem. Just like the Wii U, which many thought to be an expansion of the Wii, New 3DS will get confusing for consumers. By switching it to Super 3DS, it brands itself as something different, like with the Famicon/Nintendo and the Super Famicon/Nintendo.

        • HarakiriKami

          Again, its not the next generation of nintendo hardware. Its a 3DS with a better cpu. A Hardware revision. Like the PSP 2000 that came out with a better cpu.

          Who’s going to get confused by ” New 3DS”

          “I want to buy the New 3DS”

          Not to mention this is in japanese lol

          • DarkRPGMaster

            The same parents who got confused by the WiiU and thought it was an expansion. There’s a reason it sold badly for a while, and that was because of marketing. The name is a part of marketing.

            The PSP didn’t have that problem because there were different versions that sounded more powerful, like the 2000 and 3000. Even the PSP Go was considered its own thing because of the wording. The Game Boy Pocket, Color, Advance SP, Micro, DSi, and 2DS didn’t have these problems either because of their names being different.

            But here, they’re just adding the word New in front of the 3DS. It’s easily going to get confusing with the parents and those who aren’t keeping track of the gaming world.

  • wahyudil

    now I have a reason to Play Smash Bros 3DS hard way …

  • Göran Isacson

    Huh. As someone who bought the very first 3DS, this… might just be in my interest-zone: upgrading to an XL version could be neat. Though I do wonder if this will work out for them in the long run- as people have said the GBC had exclusive games to it as well and that didn’t fragment the userbase, but the GBC dropped nine years after the original Gameboy. As someone who looks on the iPhone market and it’s quicker update schedule with dread and apprehension, this makes me a bit worried…

    Also- will one be able to transfer all ones downloaded games to the new 3DS via SD cards? Also also- that is one SERIOUSLY tiny second joystick man. Kinda curious what that one will be useful for.

    EDIT: ALSO ALSO ALSO- poor WiiU… yet another sibling that’s probably going to eat into its limelight and any funds that it could receive at Nintendo…

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    welp I guess It gives me a reason to buy a new 3DS since I passed on the XL but for some reason this feels shamelessly lazy Why not just come up with a new name? now peolpe is going to get conused even more. I’m sick of them calling everything “New” that isn’t really new at all.

    • darke

      Apple gets away with it since their ‘new’ one supports essentially the same software as their ‘old’ one. This has three different overlapping bits of software supported. This is going to be a mess. :(

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        yes I See become a huge problem

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

      Well, it is a “NEW” name alright :V

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        ……..New super Hunter bros plz

    • ronin4life

      The name will NOT make or break this. It hasn’t hurt the LL, DSi, lite, or any major GB/GBA system before it to have a silly name and it won’t hurt here.

  • SuperSailorV

    no… noooo! are all the special editions I’ve been collecting already becoming old news?

    • ShawnOtakuSomething

      sigh….goodbuy money

  • LordHyper

    In all honesty, the new 3DS doesn’t seem that tempting unless: A) you didn’t have a 3DS before or B) you want Xenoblade Chronicles that badly.

    • Codename: D.A.V.I.D.

      Yeah
      B)

    • Saphira

      or C) you own the very first 3DS and wanted an XL upgrade, or D) you find your current 3ds to be really old and scratched up already, or E) you’re just really paranoid on exclusives, so you buy anyway

    • Guillermo Oliva III

      None of the above and the New 3DS is superior to XL and the first model.

    • Shane Guidaboni

      I have an original 3DS and this is very tempting indeed. I never wanted an XL.

  • Spirit Macardi

    Now THIS is exactly the sort of thing I’ve been waiting for :3

    I still have my model-1 3DS and never felt the need to upgrade just for a larger screen. This though, a more powerful system with a larger screen and more controls; I’d totally get this!

    I’m also sure that the more powerful CPU means they’ll be able to port over the GBA Virtual Console

    • Venus in Furs.

      I’m sure the 3ds can play GBA games (10 of them were offered to early adopters.) I have no idea why they’re not releasing them though.

      • hng qtr

        Something about the regular features of VC(like save states and putting the console on sleep mode when you close it) not working on 3DS AFAIK.

        • Venus in Furs.

          But if I recall, those features worked fine on the games they had already released. I gave away my ambassador 3DS a while ago though, so I can’t check. Would definitely be awesome if this model could play GBA games though.

          • hng qtr

            Not the GBA games.

          • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

            Heard the GBA ambassador games were slow, I think now they might be able to run it more smoothly, can’t say if they’ll support all of them though.

          • Max

            They’re not slow, they work flawlessly.
            They just lack the extra features other VC games have, like savestates.

          • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

            Oh goddamn! I’ll punch the dude who said to me Wario Ware runs kinda slow on 3ds on the back of his neck! :V

          • Spirit Macardi

            The games ran in a completely different emulation method that lacked the save states and Miiverse functionality. It’s easier for them to just continue with this current method and port it over to the New 3DS rather than optimize the games for two different code bases.

    • Guillermo Oliva III

      Yeah, I totally agree with you ,since I own a Nintendo 3DS model-01 LE:Fire Emblem and I did not want to purchase a XL version ,since it is just a larger screen. So, this is a good reason to buy a new 3DS ,since this is a enhanced upgraded model.

  • Justin Graham

    I’ll take this, please and thank you!

  • DizzyGear

    They can price this thing 0.99 cents but if its region locked again they can shove it somewhere the sun does not shine.

    • Alter

      right beside them, deep in pacific ocean. LOL

    • darke

      My opinion also. I’m not buying 3 consoles just to play the games I want to because I happen to be in a supposed EU zone.

    • Brimfyre

      Sorry I didn’t see your post before I rage posted the same thing. Here Here, brother or sister.

  • http://playstationallstars.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_All-Stars_Wiki Sackchief

    Wow, Nintendo is screwing with us. They said they would never release an updated console with two sticks so I bought a 3DS XL thinking that. This thing looks way superior. It better be cheap.

    • Agito

      the exchange for 16.000 yen (normal new 3ds, not LL) is around 117 euros or 154 dollars. so something around these prices most likely.

      • mckun

        16,000 is 160-170 USD for people who CANNOT convert.

        EDIT: not implying you. Shoehorning and adding on.

        • Agito

          ah i see. just took it out of a random converter i found on the internet. my apologies.

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    So…does everyone like the new name “NEW Nintendo 3DS?”

    • http://playstationallstars.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_All-Stars_Wiki Sackchief

      It’s cheesey. Should have gone with Super DS.

      • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

        or Super 3DS

        or Ultra 3DS?

        • Agito

          super ultra nintendo 3ds entertainment system 64 disk-drive U

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJbQc88bFVbRKE2WLBS1UQA Taylor Xero

          Or something like Super Ultra Remix Hyper Edition EX Plus Alpha 3D2S oh wait wrong company…. My bad

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

          ….64.

      • Black Is a Status

        I like Super DS!!!!

        • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

          but what about the 3D?

          • ShawnOtakuSomething

            Super 3DS Taco Supreme

          • Black Is a Status

            Super 3DS!!!

    • Saphira

      It’s probably gonna cause a lot of confusion if you don’t capitalize ‘N’… like… “I’m gotta buy a new 3ds” vs “I gotta buy a New 3ds” XD

    • ShawnOtakuSomething

      3DS 64,
      Super 3DS

      3DS supreme

      better names

    • Mar Mar

      First it was Wii U. Now it is New Nintendo 3DS.

    • ronin4life

      It’s Japanese. It is an English word. I really don’t think the name is as bad as people are thinking now.

      There is really no reason to get hung up on the name this way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jefriputra Jeff

    I hope the new battery capacity is better than old 3ds

    • Snorlaxation

      Apparently it’s not

  • FitzpatrickPhillips

    Another 3DS? Jesus christ. I already own two XLs from JP and NA. I can’t afford to do that again.

  • triablos

    Okay I’m very happy about this, finally gonna get rid of my 3ds original. But I swear if they call this thing NEW 3DS outside Japan I’m gonna be annoyed.

  • Guillermo Oliva III

    I would not mind purchasing one and wishing to own one as a LE.

  • raeldor

    Oh dear, looks like they haven’t upped the resolution after all. Since they are fracturing the user base anyway they should have taken their opportunity. Guess we’re not getting higher resolution until the next gen. :(

    • Snorlaxation

      If there’s no higher resolution, then there’s really no point. A slightly bigger screen? Fine.
      Colorful buttons? Nice, but unnecessary.
      C stick? Never really used it on GC, so whatever.

      No improved battery life.
      Backwards compatible? Not sure, and not likely.

      EDIT: Apparently it should play the other 3DS games, but it has exclusives that can’t be played on the older DS models.

      • raeldor

        Right? I love Xenoblade Chronicles, but I’m not paying $250 to play it. I think I’ll just save my money for Final Fantasy Explorers. I love my 3DSLL and it has some great games, but when I go back to it from playing the Vita the resolution makes me want to cry. I’m guessing now they’ve announced this that it’ll be at least 2-3 years before we see a next-gen handheld from them too.

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    The next iteration of the WIi U should be New Wii U.

    Then bundle it with New Super Mario Bros U2

    • Brimfyre

      Released on a Sunday Bloody Sunday

  • Thelastgunstar

    Interesting, very interesting. They handle this better than the DS to DSi upgrade. I felt that the DSi was rather pointless in the light of the DS.

    I hope they put that extra CPU power to good use. Might actually pick one up.

  • Max

    It’s irritating how the XL won’t have custom plates.
    I can understand why they did it, but it’s still pretty annoying.

  • http://danierc-polloconpapas.tumblr.com/ Eduardo Rocha

    Ugh… so Nintendo will make me get a third 3DS huh?

    • mckun

      Yep.

    • ronin4life

      It would only be my second, but I recieved an XL as a gift. And I really strongly belive most people bought one or the other, making an upgrade a good move as it has been a while since XL hit the market. The overall opinon shouldn’t be huffy so about this.

      What I am hung up on is the actual upgrade splitting the software base… Don’t know how to feel about that.

  • Brimfyre

    Still region locked? Only way they can sucker me into getting this at this point is if they make it region free, otherwise, stuff it Nintendo.

  • KingGunblader

    Hey, Nintendo. Remember when you released the Wii U and everyone was all “You should change that name, it’s going to confuse people”?

    This is way worse than that. Can’t wait for New Super Mario Bros. New 3DS

    • PreyMantis

      This is what happens when fans go apeshit and the company responds. I don’t think anyone but those who complained about the original 3DS should be getting this.

      • KingGunblader

        What complains are they responding to with this new unit? Controls? I get that. I don’t remember there being a notable amount of backlash regarding the graphics.

        • PreyMantis

          What, did you just forget about the doom-gloom articles listing the 3DS faults? I tell you, there were a lot of them.

          • KingGunblader

            I thought it was the fact that it didn’t really have any games.

          • PreyMantis

            That’s one part, but they also listed the battery life, no second analog stick, poor graphics and overall specs, etc. With the previous announcements and actions Nintendo have done to please the fans/costumers, you can totally see their actions were influenced by the people’s outcries.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    *Be on the look put for the Wii New U, comes with 1TB harddrive and a powerful CPU that rivals the ps4.*

    • BalmungX

      I was thinking about buying a wiiU ,but i will wait a little more

  • Daniel Rossevelt

    Man this is so cool, they have built in secondary triggers and analog sticks, I really want this, Just if I had the money, I hope it is not to expensive when it hits NA, On a side note no way will I get the New 3DSXL, standard size FTW!

  • Valtiel Ikari

    I knew I should have waited for a revised model with second analog….

  • KingGunblader

    That second analog stick is giving me flashes of the PSP nub. But this is Nintendo, so I have to some faith that it will be better than that.

  • mckun

    “It was also noted that the New Nintendo 3DS models aren’t expected to be released in North America or Europe within the year.”

    What about NO REGION LOCK?

    • luckgandor

      No region lock is the only way I could justify getting this. If all the N3DS gets is a few exclusive games, I’ll happily stick with my current XL.

  • Aristides

    Is this a new system or is it just an upgraded model. I will be super pissed if this is a brand new system >.>.

    • Herok♞

      Upgraded model like the DSi

      • Dyne

        they say it a Upgrade model but as some game’s will only work for it as it got a better cpu, it the same as a new system that lets you play 3ds games.

        • ronin4life

          Dsi was like this too. Only 1 game was ever dsi exclusive, excluding download titles.

          PSP had a few upgrades that made games run better than on older versions. This isn’t unprecedented, but is probably one of the bigger upgrade gaps if not the biggest in gaming history.

          • Dyne

            2nd if my dad is right, he told me a long time a go that the ZX Spectrum’s did the same thing where it got to the point where the newer games would not work on the older Spectrum’s

        • Herok♞

          Not really the DSi also let you play games with additional features and some games would only work with the DSI, its the same exact thing not a whole new system, which would mean a whole new everything

          • Dyne

            If the 3ds we have now can not run the games then it is a new system, The ps2 could run ps1 games but a ps1 can not run ps2 games. The ps2 is it own system and a ps1 is it own system so how it not the same?

          • Herok♞

            By this logic DSi was also a brand new system, minor improvements don’t make something a new system, especially when the company behind it is treating as such, its the New 3DS, by definition its still a 3DS, just like the PSP, Vita and DS had new models with better hardware without being new systems this is the same. It will run off the 3DS operating system with minor improvements. If Nintendo were treating it as a new system it would have been more than just a simple direct in one region.

          • Dyne

            So a better cpu that make it so you can run the game only for the new 3ds is a “minor improvement” ? if it was only getting a better cpu and the older 3ds could still play the games then i would call it a “minor improvement” and call it at that, As you need the better cpu meaning the older 3ds can not run it, it is a new system that is base on the 3ds tech.

            Yes the psp, vita and ds had new models but i do not think it was to the same level as this
            (not sure about the psp-1000) yes there was the DSI but i where i lived it was so under used that i think i only had one game that used it(that was not part of the main game as well) but is it own system it in own right.

            did you know the ZX Spectrum start out at max of 48k ram but later went up to 128k of ram? Want to know one of the down sides of having the 48k when games was being made with the 128k Spectrum about? the older Spectrums could not run the newer Spectrum games as they was made to use the newer Spectrum tech, making the older ones useless for the newer games so could you still called 48k Spectrum the same as a 128k one?

            So what if it using the 3DS operating system? Windows have been using the same code at it base for years, it better for them to reuse code that they know it works then to make new code if they can.

  • hairyoldman

    So this is the 3DS successor, not just a remodel (like DS -> DSLite -> DSi)?

    Considering it already has exclusive software, I’m guessing successor. But if it is, keeping the 3DS name is a marketing disaster waiting to happen. How are they going to market software like Xenoblade and other upcoming games not compatible with older 3DS models?

    “Why doesn’t this game work on my 3DS? Compatible with New 3DS? Yes, this is a new 3DS!”

    Some other criticism:

    - The camera stick is in a horrible location. How am I supposed to use it without accidentally pressing the x button?
    - The CPU being “upgraded” sounds like an overclock and it’s unfortunate to see Nintendo being so conservative with hardware specs.
    Nintendo could have had a real game changer if they opted for a Tegra K1. With hardware capable of running Unreal Engine 4 and other powerful engines, they could have received scaled-back ports of PS4 games. Even Gamecube emulation would have been feasible (look up Dolphin emulator running on a K1. Nintendo can make something even more efficient)
    With mobile CPU/GPU hardware progressing so quickly, failing to capitalize on it is only proving Iwata’s incompetence
    - By calling it “new” 3DS, are they implying that, like Apple with their iPhones, they will be upgrading these things annually and so there is no point in coming up with a unique name? I hope this isn’t the case. Hardcore Nintendo fans may be willing to buy new 3DS’s each year, most people won’t

  • phayroent

    Glad I didn’t buy into the 3DS before. Even for Pokémon. I’ll skip the crap and wait until holiday 2015 to get one. 2DS’ should be about $70 new soon, then? I do give Nintendo credit for finding a way to milk the 3DS brand to give it a couple more years than it realistically had.

    • Money?Muney??All my luveee!!!

      Wait u will still get 2DS and miss the special new game for this system?

  • AuraGuyChris

    Thank you, Nintendo. You somehow made me avoid buying a Smash 3DS for this. :l

    • Money?Muney??All my luveee!!!

      This one is coming for 2015 with full prices. On December, the older 3DS is surely going to get tons of discount. So i guess, Ninty wanted to capitalize on that sales?

      • AuraGuyChris

        Yes, but I’m not blindly tossing $150 when I can wait three months later for this.

  • jon

    It’s a shame.A new model with games that only can be played on it.44 million of “normal” 3ds users should be angry.Nintendo want you buy a new model,now?Not with my money.

    • sakanaとkoeda

      I know right? The person who gave this idea the green light deserves a kiss…..with my fist.

  • phayroent

    I hope anyone who talked crap about Xbox “One” realizes how dumb this is.

    • Johnathan Lenig-Lopez

      Yes. Yes I do.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    Personally, I find this to be a wise move on Nintendo’s part. The current economic climate doesn’t lend itself well to releasing new hardware, so incremental improvements such as this are a better way to go for the foreseeable future. Not to mention that, at least in my opinion, it’s still way too early for a completely new handheld.

    Having said that, it will be interesting to see how third party developers will respond to this. They pretty much ignored the hardware improvements of the DSi and prefered to make games that could be played on all DS models in order to be able to sell games to the entire installed base. However, Nintendo didn’t really push the DSi in any meaningful way, whereas they do seem to be interested in pushing the N3DS.

    The two things that I’m most curious about regarding this new iteration is whether it will have better battery life (apparently, the new CPU is also more power efficient, but I haven’t managed to find a confirmation) and whether Nintendo will use this chance to finally tie digital games to accounts instead of hardware.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention two things:

    - I hope Nintendo will clearly distinguish the retail boxes of N3DS games from regular 3DS ones. One reason I think people didn’t mind the Game Boy Color so much was that the games for the GBC were clearly distinguished from the regular GB ones.

    - As stupid as the name “Wii U” was, calling this “New” Nintendo 3DS just seems….plain, unimaginative and a bit awkward. I’m not saying this requires some sort of super unique name, but I think something that is friendlier for abbreviation would have been a better choice. 3DS+, maybe?

    • http://wwwdonicwebstartscom.webstarts.com/ donicx
      • Tom_Phoenix

        Thank you for the link. It’s disappointing that the battery life will remain the same, but I guess that was to be expected.

        Also, the fact that account-bound games aren’t touted as a feature makes me think that we can forget about seeing that either. =(

        • http://wwwdonicwebstartscom.webstarts.com/ donicx

          Maybe in a future update they will allow that who knows if fans keep pestering Nintendo there is a chance of that happening but than again Nintendo is a wild card it’s hard to predict what they do sometimes. well at least the battery life dint become shorter that at least is something.

        • http://wwwdonicwebstartscom.webstarts.com/ donicx

          oh wait here something else you should check out http://nintendoeverything.com/new-3ds-official-qa-translated/#more-171110

    • Mr_SP

      However, this incremental improvement, assuming that it is made use of, is effectively the same as releasing new hardware, anyway. If you want to play new New 3DS games, you need to buy a new New 3DS. It’s not like the XL, where the extra money was optional – it will either cut off current owners, or the hardware will go underutilized. Neither is really a good thing.

      • hairyoldman

        Exactly. That is, if developers support it. The more exclusives it receives, the more it will be seen as a 3DS successor.

        But based off of Xenoblade’s visuals, it’s not worthy of being a 3DS successor.

        Incremental improvements are boring

      • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

        Exactly. And any exclusives are going to sell poorly because they alienate the existing user base. Also the name is dumb. I argued over and over that Wii U was not so bad – imagine if it was called New Wii

  • ddh819

    can you transfer your eshop account and downloads to a new 3ds?

    • http://wwwdonicwebstartscom.webstarts.com/ donicx

      With the system transfer yes you should.

    • Money?Muney??All my luveee!!!

      Yes u can. nintendo.co.jp already mentioned it can be performed.

  • chroma816

    I want to like this. I do. Button colors? New buttons? Better performance? Better 3D? What’s not to like.

    But it feels like a slap in the face, and having to buy yet another handheld – especially when it’s kind of difficult to transfer media/games/saves from an old one to a new one – is wrong.

    • ronin4life

      I hope this fits into what they have said about easing into more user freindly account and cross system ecosystems with their future consoles.

      • chroma816

        It better. I’m not totally against buying this, but if I can’t move my digital Animal Crossing game/save over, I’m gonna be pissed.

        • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

          Why wouldn’t you be able to? It transfers fine with system transfer, as I found out when I transferred from a 3DS to a 3DS XL.

    • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

      And I’d have to buy a microSD card after dropping $50 on a normal 64gb SD. And still that same proprietary ac adapter instead of usb.

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      But you don’t have to. No one is forcing you. And it isn’t difficult to transfer. That’s what system transfer does.

      They’re still going to make 3DS games. We probably won’t see many “only for New 3DS” games unless it is really successful. Games will likely be designed for 3DS with some extra features for New 3DS.

  • Asuna Ilano

    Dude, those colored buttons are already a winner for me. Ugh, now I have to suspend on buying a 3DS just for this. I guess ORAS have to wait.

  • Ziko577

    Good for me! I haven’t bought one yet and when these things come out, may consider doing so.

  • Istillduno

    For crying out loud, if nintendo wants to make another generation of handhelds which just happens to be backwards compatible with the 3DS they should just say it.

    This ****’s just going to confuse people, it’s a new generation of console with games which can’t be played on the 3DS named like another version of the 3DS, that’s dumb as hell.

    • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

      Yeah I imagine people are going to be pissed that they can’t return “new 3ds” carts that they open and discover don’t work with their 3ds.

  • Kaetsu

    Nintendo’s going to have to show me some more exclusive “New 3DS” titles before I even get interested in one. They can’t possibly believe that Xenoblade is a system seller. They’re going to need some more titles.

    • Agito

      there probably will be a direct dedicated to the new 3ds. for now it’s just a demonstration on what the system can do ( look, controls scheme, abilities and overal power, which is demonstrated by displaying xenoblade).

  • Warboss Aohd

    You Money Grubbing Gits!

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      They don’t make very much money off hardware sales. We’re not talking about Apple here.

  • GuyAlpha

    I don’t see why people are so upset. I wasn’t the kind of person to buy every iteration of the DS they made, so I guess this doesn’t annoy me.

    • https://twitter.com/BurstZX Devin Isom

      I was literally going to buy a 3ds xl tomorrow to be ready for smash 4.
      I can only imagine the people who recently bought it are feeling.

      • GuyAlpha

        I guess what I’m saying is, that I don’t see the need to want to buy one right now or even when it comes out in the States. They aren’t treating this like a big thing either with only one game announced being made for it.

        • mckun

          Well I get where people are coming from. They are afraid that Nintendo is going to shoehorn this when it comes to the States or in the future. One game usually leads to=100% exclusives. From what I see it might be more from the stream.

          • GuyAlpha

            There are definitely going to be more games. I guess my point is, even if you just bought a 3DS you can probably still get another good year out of it. I don’t think there’s not going to be a straight transition when it releases.

      • CamulaHikari

        If you really want a 3ds for smash 4 I’d say get the cheapest one you can find for the moment and then upgrade when this comes around.

        (or of course wait if you’re patient enough :’) )

    • mckun

      Guy……

      Must resist hugging…..

      -Coughs- People (not me I’m mad that there is region lock,) are upset because this is what Nintendo/Sega did back in the day. Remember:

      Sega: Genesis 1 Genesis 2 Genesis and CD combo Genesis slim

      Gameboy, Gameboy color, Game boy SP and Gameboy slim

      Ds, Ds lite, Dsi and Dsi XL

      And now: 3DS, 3DS LL or XL, 2DS, NEW 3DS. So people are tired of it, especially when some people never had a 3DS, had to buy one because Smash is around the corner, and then this comes out. Sadly people still fall for the same thing due to Nintendo support.

      Also in the past those people forced consumers to buy the new systems because new games only support said systems.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        and Sony with the PSP

        1000
        2000
        3000
        Go

        Vita

        1000
        2000

        • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

          you can play all psp games in 1000 2000 3000 and go

          You can play all vita games on vita 1000 2000

          You can’t play some dsi games on nds

          You can’t play some New 3ds games on old 3ds

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            yes you can play all games on the diferents models of the psp but back in the day people had faced some troubles with the 1k series like slowdowns, Ad Hoc problems and other features. to get a decent experience you would still need to have a 3k or 2k psp

          • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

            But you can still play them, in this case you can’t. But I don’t really mind as long as they keep releasing games for the old 3ds

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            they’ll keep releasing games for the old 3ds there’s what? 20 million of old 3DS users out there. y nintendo wouldn’t be dumb to throw all that cash ou of the window. The N3DS is more likely to be a new way for ninty to implement the whole “all of plataforms connected thing”. it will get exclusive games to it, since it’s a powerfull 3DS (same same arcthecture, same language only with better hardware).
            I hope that ninty is smart to make some badass exclusive games so people will go out and buy the N3DS and not turn it into a new DSi (with 4 exclusives games and that is about it)

          • Shippoyasha

            The PSP analogy doesn’t work. Nobody really cared for the online elements in PSPs. Vita was the one that finally got it right.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            >The PSP analogy doesn’t work. Nobody really cared for the online elements in PSPs

            wow, just stop. what about monster hunter, the tag forces games, Dissidia, God eater, Phantast Star, Dynasty Warriors Strikerforce, Everybody’s Golf, Fate unlimited Codes, BlazBlue portables games, BBS, Peace Walker, naruto ultimate games, Tekken 6, FIFA, PES and Type-0.

          • Shippoyasha

            It was there and functional, but it wasn’t an easy sell during the PSP era. It was really after the Vita made it much more seamless that we’re even seeing persistent online games on the system now.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            it turned into a easy sell after Monster HUnter. it might not have been here in the west because of piracy but a good number of games included it and made CMs showing the Adhoc functionality as a focus in japan

          • T-X

            Nope gonna call bullshit right when I see it. The PSP Go could NOT play all games. There was a slew of PSP games I owned I could not get the digital version of, even frickin Birth by Sleep! Arguably one of the best games on that system! The Go had a whole library of unplayable games, so I opted to pass on it.

            DSi games were applets AT BEST and the New 3DS has a better processor, hence why “New 3DS” games won’t play on the old one.

        • Somebodyissilent

          Not even close.

  • Slickyslacker

    Developers are going to be wary of making processor-stressing games exclusive to the “New 3DS”, as that would alienate far too many customers.

    I can’t foresee a total shift towards developing games with those kinds of limits, yet. The current 3DS install base is the widest out there, and no matter the hardware capabilities of this New 3DS, its older brother isn’t going out of style any time soon.

    This effectively resets the lifespan of the 3DS family, giving it close to maybe another decade. In the long run, this is actually an outstandingly wise move.

    It also makes my formerly ridiculous dream of a portable Pikmin remake a possibility.

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      I think it’s more likely we’ll see games released that work on both consoles but have enhanced features for the New 3DS. And then if it pans out, we’ll see more exclusive New 3DS-only games, similar to the Game Boy Color.

      • Slickyslacker

        Interesting prediction. I’m just expecting more hardware-demanding games to gradually be made, with original model 3DS games staying the norm for a while longer. That is, as opposed to those that only benefit to such an extent from the New 3DS. I’d love to see games like that as well, though.

  • Ann Weschenfeller

    I don’t think this is going to work, Nintendo…They should have waited a year or so and release a truly new console instead…This is like a Neptune.

    • Codi Schumacher

      why keep releasing new consoles dammit then our games wont be as usable

    • ronin4life

      My guess is they will release the next gen Handheld with the WiiU’s successor since they will be build as companion systems.

      That could be several years from now(3~5)

      • Ann Weschenfeller

        I really hope they wait that long…If they do I’d be okay with this revision.

  • Quan Chi

    I hope there are some 3D options in the software. Even if they did fix
    viewing the 3D from any angle, you still have the pop out effect that
    can burn your eyes with looking at the edges of the screen if a 3D
    object is cut off by the viewing window. If they added a ‘Percent in
    Front” option, that would fix that and have a pop in view instead of a
    pop out view which is alot better on the eyes. it would also help if they increased internal resolution a bit to reduce the massive jaggies. Lasly, a bilinear or gaussian filter would be great for the XL so it wouldn’t look too pixelated.

    They have the right idea with the 2nd set of shoulder buttons, unfortunately, shoulder buttons feel better if they are back to back instead of side by side. I had a classic ps2 controller that looked like that (a nes controller) and it was very hard to play because the shoulder buttons were side by side.

  • James Reilly

    Yeah not gonna fall for this trap again. Improvements doesn’t sound like it warrants a whole new device instead of an updated model.

    • Ann Weschenfeller

      They’re starting to get all Sega second half 90′s on us…

      • Jadfish

        I want a Tower Of Power on my 3DS

        It’ll be as powerful as the Vita!

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ One Winged Wanker ♢

          Dat blast processing~

          • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

            Something Nintendon’t never had ;)

      • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

        Nah, Game Boy Color was similar to this, and that predates the 32X. (I think. Right?? I can’t actually remember! I guess maybe it doesn’t.)

  • Kornelious

    ……You’ve gotta be kidding me! -_-

    I guess since I actually got an XL this time around Nintendo had to 1-Up that as well (No pun intended) And even worse is it has actual essential upgrades, with the right analog stick and new shoulder buttons…..

    Even though it looks nice I probably won’t get it unless it gets some really good exclusive ga- Wait what?………..Xenoblade remake!?…..Exclusive to the new one?……..(Sigh) Looks like I know what I’m getting for Christmas……..It won’t be released in the U.S this year?…..Damn it! :(

    • chosen105

      I know exactly how you feel man, Bastards at Nintendo lol. On a positive side, it is a pretty cool thing they did there and releasing xenoblade is gonna be awesome sense I missed it the first time around. However, looks like were not gonna get a new portable from nintendo for awhile now…

      • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

        This happened between Game Boy and Game Boy Advance, too–it was called the Game Boy Color. :) Could go either way.

        • Charles Dexter Ward

          Well, but game boy lived for 8 years and cartidradges where different, the cartidradges of the gba wouldn’t fit into the gb. Is a bit more like DS-DSI, but with possible worse outcome

  • Freud_Hater

    …Well I’m pretty content with my current 3DS XL and I’m really not seeing any reason to buy this one… I’ll pass.

    • Go2hell66

      Xenoblade is reason enough for me

      • James Todd

        same

    • darkbeat

      and future release game i’m sure will require the new 3ds

      • Charles Dexter Ward

        That would be dumb. nintendo would be dumping an installed base of almost 60 million consoles.

      • Fruity Insanity

        While there may be some games exclusive to the new model, I’m confident that most games will still be accessible to regular 3DS/3DS XL/2DS users.

        I’m still getting the new one, though. 8D

      • Freud_Hater

        Ooooohhhh… That would be a woefully cheap move ¬¬

  • Suicunesol

    Hey :D Nintendo isn’t forcing anyone to buy this model. In fact, I imagine most major games will still be available for the original 3DS line. The user base for the original 3DS line is much too large to not take advantage of.

    Maybe I’m not as incensed because of how cheap it was for me to upgrade to an XL. If Gamestop is as generous as they were when the XL first came out, then I’d be able to upgrade for fifty dollars at most.

    I don’t know. I’d buy the upgrade even if Xenoblade Chronicle 3DS wasn’t coming out. The extra analog stick is such a godsend. And a more powerful CPU? I’ve been wanting that for a long time!

    …from a business standpoint, though, it does fragment the user base. It really does.

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      Maybe, but so did the Game Boy Color, and that turned out really well for Nintendo. On the other hand, the DSi was kind of pointless, but no one made games “only” for the DSi anyway, so it turned out all right.

      So this could either go the GBC success route or the DSi fade-away route and work either way. It also leaves room for Nintendo to hold their own against the encroaching phone and tablet market.

      • Suicunesol

        I think most GBC games were playable on regular GBs, right? The only game I can recall that was GBC only was Pokemon Crystal.

  • zeta

    that right analog

    • Fruity Insanity

      Hey, I like my little red pointer. ;P

      It’s easier to use than non-Apple’s touchpads, at least.

      • darke

        Easier to use the Apple’s touchpads as well. It’d be nice if Apple actually bothered to try and innovate in that space rather then just add yet another useless swipe motion that triggers accidentally right at the wrong time.

  • Sentinel

    I’ll wait to see what the price is about, as well as if you can transfer data from my original 3DS.

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      Should be about $150, and you should be able to do a system transfer, just like between current 3DS models.

      • Sentinel

        Can you transfer everything? Like any downloaded games, the game log and such?

  • DuskSharkEX

    Time to replace my 3DS!

  • Erde

    New 3DS? Hah. This is a new system with backwards compatibility.

    I was going to ask who are they fooling, but they seem to have succeeded quite well based on comments from several gaming news sites.

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      Right. It is sort of like Game Boy vs. Game Boy Color, in my opinion.

      • Astaoc

        GBC come 8years after Game boy

      • Erde

        I rest my case.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Personally, I’m just glad someone still cares about portable gaming. This is them planting their flag and saying they’re in it for the long haul. I’m totally cool with that.

    We need a successful portable to exist in the market at all times for the dedicated handheld market to continue being a viable space for games.

    If there is ever a situation where there isn’t a successful gaming portable for even a year or two, you can kiss portable games goodbye. Publishers will not hesitate to make the leap to phones permanently.

    • Mila

      Of course they will still care , 3DS is printing money to them and 3rd party support from all places …….. in a region locked handheld .

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        You make it sound like it’s easy to fight an uphill battle like this.

        Not only have they managed to get 3DS to sell reasonably well in the age of smartphone gaming, but they’ve also given publishers like Square Enix enough faith to continue investing in portable game development at a time when they were increasingly focused on smart devices.

        • Mila

          Handheld focus > Smartphones focus
          That’s the positive side of 3DS . the negative side is that this handheld system is still region locked and Its not an uphill battle at all , they has the money / the fans and the opportunity to do it , they could easily win everyone with this , i don’t even care anymore if it means killing the other handheld i just wants them to win me once … but they didn’t , its just greedy how they still holding the region lock thing !

          • ronin4life

            Region locking would not help them at all. The few people dying to have it would not make up for the lost sales from opportunistic region hoppers avoiding regional price variations. And for a company struggling regularly against the Yen-dollar exchange, that could spell financial troubles leagues worse than what they face now.

            They won’t make this thing region free unless they feel they have stable sales in every major region or are willing to stop importing to whole regions altogether. They don’t have the massive MultiMedia hooks MS and Sony have nor the history of regional superiority in the EU or Latin America, and often place second or worse even in the USA and Japan. Why do you think EU keeps getting all those cool bonuses from Nintendo- to build up regional awareness and fanbases. Publishers also don’t often like Region Free, as evidenced from PA being region locked even on Playstation, for the same reasons.

            We can want it gone, but thinking it is just as easy and simple a choice as you put it is naive and a little harsh. Especially once you realize gaming is really the ONLY region free media at all in the world.

          • Shippoyasha

            To be fair, you can easily play other regional content with region free DVD/Bluray players. With game systems, you don’t have that 3rd party helping you unless we are talking about hacking/modding systems.

          • darke

            Seriously? Only region free media? Ever heard of books? I’m told books don’t complain when you buy from another country.

            Plus it’s not as if region-free dvd/bluray player’s aren’t a dime a dozen, often cheaper and better designed then feature-overloaded name-brand players.

            If publishers don’t often like region free, can you explain this list of one (1) game being region locked? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Region-locked_PlayStation_3_games That looks much more like publishers don’t like taking the massive backlash of region locking and would rather the platform owner take it; and Microsoft didn’t much like that this generation either given the XB1 debacle!

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      Well said!

    • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

      I also have to wonder if this is going to allow them more flexibility with the 3DS virtual console, such as delivering DS games that way and running them in native 3DS mode (rather than going into compatibility mode), in addition to GBA and SNES support (N64?).

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        A lot of things that have been said in the past are suddenly falling into place.

        Unity on 3DS? This is how they’re doing it. GBA stuff on 3DS? Again, this is likely how that’s going to be implemented.

    • Fen Y

      Pretty much. I’ll buy one of those for sure. Sadly it’s still region locked, so I have to import one.

      Again.

      Never buying any EU region locked console, it’d be crazy to do so. :/

    • Shippoyasha

      I don’t think Nintendo has to worry about that yet. They still have a lot or momentum on handheld while they are still fighting to make Wii U sell more. I am more worried for the future of Vita and its successor at the moment. But especially that home console gaming is losing so much ground. A few years ago, I would be laughed out of forums for citing mobile gaming as a huge threat to core gaming. And look where we are now.

      • psycho_bandaid

        “I am more worried for the future of Vita and its successor at the moment.”

        As a massive fan of the Vita I feel I still must say that I seriously doubt there will be a successor to the Vita. I think Sony is done with handhelds after this generation. At times it feels like the are done thinking about the Vita now.

        In the chance that they do make another portable, it’ll be just for the sake of staying in the japanese market, since pretty much all home consoles are failing over there.

        • Charles Dexter Ward

          The problem, atleast IMO is that the vita feels more like a high priced “Gaming wannabe tablet” than a handheld console. It has decent hardware, powerfull enough to run great games, but it just doesn’t feel like a console, it will happend like it happend to their walkman line (which is slowly being retired from the market)

        • Shippoyasha

          Yeah, I’m afraid as well. I love Nintendo consoles, but I do like to see a competition on the handheld space.

          • LightZero

            Vita isn’t much of a competition now. So there isn’t a point of a successor especially when Sony pretty much given up on it.

      • http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/25050-farm-mapping-contest/#entry239430 Chaos17

        You didn’t saw the japanese market stats ? Nintendo is the only survivors on handled consol while mobile games are plaguing the japanese market.

        • Shippoyasha

          Some Vita GAMES are selling pretty well though. Which is sad, because the Vita has all the chances for success if only Sony stuck to it. Remember the 3DS and how it was almost a total failure and even Nintendo admitted it was a failure after its extremely rough 1st year? They turned it around because they stuck with it. Vita has the 3rd party regardless of Sony. Imagine the powerhouse it’d be if Sony tried a little.

    • Jeremy Barnes

      feels a lot more like a company looking to up their financial picture with an under-performing console system dragging down their outlook than Nintendo trying to ‘save’ portable gaming.

      • HarakiriKami

        they are one in the same.

        Nintendo’s going to a unified OS approach like apple to try and keep their handhelds competitive because they have 3 golden gooses for their systems.

        Animal Cross, Mario, Pokemon.

    • HarakiriKami

      Am legit shook
      - better 3D
      - second stick
      - NFC built-in
      - coloured buttons
      - more buttons
      - better battery (up to 7h)
      - now compatible with microSDCard
      - you can back up data on your PC via wireless.
      -browser improved, now works with HTML5
      - CPU improved, makes browsing Miiverse / eShop much faster.
      - can switch designs now (covers)

  • Callonia

    Eh I just bought my 3DS XL few months ago so I’m good.

  • subsamuel01

    Wow, I was so close to buying a 3DS XL glad I waited. This is perfect, dual triggers and dual analog sticks. Finally Nintendo is delivering on the hardware side.

  • http://www.spaghetti.com Kaisenex

    must get this

  • CamulaHikari

    Secretly I hope this will still be able to play DS games because Pokemon Bank and all. Would be sad if people still need to get a normal 3DS/XL just to transfer their Pokemon from DS-line.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      It is still compatible with Nintendo DS games.

      • CamulaHikari

        Yeah I saw, thanks c:
        *was going through the articles backwards :’)*

  • CirnoLakes

    Oh no, now I have to have another 3DS!

  • supercyc10

    FINALLY A SECOND JOYSTICK!!!!

  • Codi Schumacher

    Never could find a circle pad pro in stores so this will solve that problem :)

  • ndjn3979

    May be a good excuse to swap for the black color.

    Bought a blue XL a month before black was announced…

  • fighting_otaku

    want both but also wonder if these will be region free? but knowing nintendo thats mostly a no …

    but regardless love the new models should have did this from the start and also what was the point of the 2ds now that this have shown lol

  • TD1251

    Awesome! Glad I resisted the temptation to pick up a used 3DSXL recently. No problem waiting until next year for this anyway since I wouldn’t play it that much right now.

  • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

    That’s pretty snappy~! Cool! We just bought a 2DS, but maybe we’ll get an LL and complete our circle~.

    It sounds like a great upgrade. I can’t wait to see what gets developed with the new design in mind. ♥u♥

  • Spencer Davis

    These also have built in NFC for amiibo support.

  • Kenshin_son

    This is nice and all, but I just got a zelda 3ds xl so theres no way I can upgrade anytime soon. I have been tiffed for awhile now, because the 3ds is perfect for snes games, but they have none on it. Now I’m thinking that only original gameboy games and gameboy color will be on 3ds. Now any game I actually want to play on a handheld, I will have to upgrade to this…thanks Nintendo…

  • Guest

    Oh, dang… I guess I’m gonna wait til’ next year to get a 3DS, then. They’re kind of missing out, not having this thing released in the West in time for the holidays.

  • Anthony

    does anyone know if the micro sd cards replace normal SD cards or does the new 3DS support both? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I just wanna be sure

  • dam4rus

    While i can understand that some people are upset by this, I can only think about the positive things this upgrade will bring us.
    1. Iwata said, that they move away from device based eShop accounts to an account based one, but they said the 3DS wasn’t built with this in mind and the NNID was put in with brute force. I already saw this coming, when they stated this, so not surprised at all.
    2. The current 3DS is slowing down with every new firmware update. Booting takes at least 5 seconds… Last week i powered up my old DS Lite and it booted instantly… For me, it’s important that a handheld device boot up fast. Also, loading the eShop and Miiverse takes a LOOOOOOOONG time. I don’t use Miiverse on 3DS, because it takes a minute to load… Also, a lot of game stutters, when the 3D is on. KH3D and Fire Emblem drops heavily in frame rate. So a faster CPU is a godsend.
    3. Right analog stick… I didn’t missed it until i started playing KH3D. I didn’t wanted to buy a Circle Pad Pro, because it’s ugly, and impossible to get in my country.

    I don’t think that a lot of game will be exclusive to the New 3DS. Like the Wii Remote Plus, we probably get a few exclusives and that’s it. Also, we will probably get an upgrade promo (at least in Europe… still surprised that NoE is so far ahead in this regard) and judging by it’s price, the production of the old models will be stopped, so new users won’t be confused and they will get the benefit of the stronger hardware. So, instead of a price drop, they made a stronger handheld. In the age where people change their phone every year, i don’t think changing your handheld after 4 year is really a big deal…

    Also, is anyone really surprised?… Nintendo did this for decades now. GB to GB Color, DS to DSi.

    • Charles Dexter Ward

      I don’t think it applies from the GB to GBC, from DS to DSi kind of does, but this has the potential to be a bit worse. Anyway, if they did this, i hope they have more headroom on this processor

      • dam4rus

        Well, i think it was a smart decision from Nintendo. From a business point at least. Back then, handhelds didn’t have to compete with mobile phones. Mobile phones are advancing very rapidly, to a point where a 2-3 year old mobile is obsolete and most application won’t run on it. To stay relevant, Nintendo had to upgrade it’s hardware as well. Also, they don’t force you to upgrade… If you don’t want to play those few exclusives, then don’t upgrade. I don’t think most developer will make New 3DS exclusive games until it reaches a fairly high install base, otherwise, they will lose a lot of the potential costumers.

        I will upgrade for sure, because i’m kinda pissed of the 3DS’s weak CPU.

        • Charles Dexter Ward

          I’m not complaining. I just hope from now on, nintendo doesn’t push too hard on modest hardware. There are ubber powerfull pure SoC’s for less than $15. I understand nintendo always tries to get the most out of the hardware, and since this is a console, not a cellphone it shuld be allright, but their next true jump on handhelds should be brutal, and not the small jump from dsi to 3ds…

          • dam4rus

            I wouldn’t call it small jump. The DS could output N64 games at best and the 3DS is somewhere between GC and Wii hardware wise. The New 3DS is closer to the Wii i think. Now, compared to the PSP is another story… The 3DS was outdated even when it came out, after 4 year it can’t even compete with the lower budget smart phones.

            But yeah… I love Nintendo for trying to innovate and all, but DAMN that low resolution screens of the 3DS… My biggest complaint of the handheld is it’s ugly screens, which isn’t addressed with the New 3DS :/ They should went a little further and make both screens at least 360p… Trying to innovate is great and all, but make a decent hardware already :/ Hoping that Nintendo Fusion thing will be powerful.

    • Armane

      “GB to GBC”

      The difference there was the nine year gap between them. Even DS to DSi was 4 years, and arguably there was no need to switch to the DSi if you picked up the Lite.

      The 3DS has only been on the market for 3 years, the XL for 2. So it isn’t surprising that people are annoyed. Especially when some of the new changes are specifically designed to fix common issues people have had since day one.

      • dam4rus

        It will be released in 2015 in the west, the 3DS was released in 2011… So it’s 4 years between the two version, just like with the DS to DSi. There was also a few games that was only available on the DSi (still envious of the DSi owner’s who could play Shantae). So what’s the difference?

        So, the problems are solved and people are unhappy about it? People will be never happy ehh?

    • Bryan

      I don’t want to buy another 2 3DS XL for my Japanese and English games again…
      T-T

      • dam4rus

        Anybody forced you to do it? Why not sell those 2 then? I would bet someone would buy it… I already “sold” mine to my friend, because he doesn’t care about Xenoblade. He can play it on my Wii anyway. There will be always uninformed or people who just doesn’t care about these upgrades. I would bet there will be upgrade promo from most retailer.

  • .:Raphællius:.

    No nintendo!! Not falling for your crap, I already own a 3DS XL.
    I like the buttons on the “Better CPU one”, But it’s not like i need it.
    I mean, i have a black one. :P

  • NeptuniasBeard

    Did I miss something? Why’s everyone so pissed off about this? I think it’s awesome personally. It’s not like it renders the 3ds obsolete or anything, and now we can get even bigger games for our handheld. I’m not seeing a downside here.

    • Jero

      It kinda does since it’s more powerful and it has more buttons it will have exclusives which creates a bridge between the old userbase and a new one. I mean, it’ll have xenoblade chronicle…

      • NeptuniasBeard

        But that’s hardly any different from jumping generations. This new system will take a while before it sucks up all support from. 3 DS, if it ever does. Did you know that dsi had exclusive games? I sure as hell didn ‘t!

        People are complaining like they HAVE to get it day one, waiting apparently isn’t an option. Sure, Nintendo might put original games on the system , but I can’t see 3rd parties jumping ship… ever.

        Ragers gonna rage, but I wish people would try to wait and see how this plays out, cut down on the noise

        • http://myvideogamelist.com/mylist/Katzedan katzedan

          “Satoru Iwata also mentioned that several
          other titles are in development exclusively for the New Nintendo 3DS. These will not be playable on the old 3DS models.” http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/29/xenoblade-chronicles-remake-announced-new-nintendo-3ds/
          so probably not gonna take a while!

          • NeptuniasBeard

            Probably is, probably not. Altus announced persona for 3ds before system even released, and we are just now getting Persona Q. Of course there will be other games in development right now, Nintendo needs to give you reason to buy the thing. But the question is: “Can they keep it up”

        • Jero

          I will wait, I’m really getting this because I want to play Xenoblade Chronicles but it kinda sucks because I’ll have to buy a new system. I really feel a bit cheated on.

          How long will it take to nintendo to put out a new thing that’ll left me out, that’s what worries me now.

          I mean yes, I wanted to upgrade from the original 3DS to the XL and now I’ll wait so I can get the model but man…

          • NeptuniasBeard

            If it makes you feel any better, there is no way in hell that Xenoblade would have been able to make it on 3DS. And I’m sure these new games will work fine on the eventual 9th gen handheld, so it’s not really a waste either way

          • dam4rus

            Hmm, i don’t know… They ported Donkey Kong Country Returns didn’t they? Sure, it was dropped to 30 FPS, but the game almost looked the same as it looked on Wii. Also, Kid Icarus looks better, than anything i have seen on the Wii…

        • Bryan

          It’s not a big enough change to make it “next gen” hand held. Personally I was hoping for a serious resolution upgrade. And yet it’s not small enough to be a minor deviation from the current 3DS. So no one really wins except the people who never bought a 3DS yet.
          Hence I’m not happy T-T

        • dam4rus

          I don’t get this either… They aren’t forcing you to switch automatically. Sure, you miss out on Xenoblade, but after seeing the gameplay trailer, you will be better off playing it on the Wii anyway… The Wii version looks sooo much better. I think most third party developer will only make use of the additional controls, like they did with the Circle Pad Pro. So totally optional. You can’t ignore an 45 million install base can you?…

        • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

          I will most likely wait and see…and not buy outright. I, as many, recently got a 3DS XL and there have been some great limited editions released over the last year, including the new Smash Bros version on the way.

          It would be smart for people to simply wait unless they want to double dip, which is why certain people are a bit miffed. For many people, buying a handheld console is an investment.

          In 2 years, knowing how Nintendo did the DSi, they could come out with a new handheld and make the “new” games b/w with it.

          • NeptuniasBeard

            Same here. I’m in no rush to get yet another handheld, especially one with proprietary sd cards. I already HAVE a Vita lol.

            I will probably just wait for the 9th gen handheld

          • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

            Exactly! Vita was certainly an investment lol!

            With these companies, sometimes you just have to wait. There will always be other games to play in the meantime.

    • Shippoyasha

      It still divides up the userbase which is a legitimate issue. I would rather have Nintendo stuck it out with the current model and then make a bigger leap with many more new features down the line. I don’t exactly have the budget to keep getting these systems personally.

      • NeptuniasBeard

        I don’t know Shipp… Sounds like a lot of rage over nothing. Knee-jerk reactions is human nature, sure, but I still think the solution is obvious. Don’t like, don’t buy. The games will still be around when the true successor comes out, so don’t waste your money on an obvious beta. There are lots of games across lots of systems to keep you occupied in the meantime, including the OG 3DS,

        I MIGHT get this myself, but it’s gonna need more than a port to get me

        • Shippoyasha

          Maybe. I would be frustrated if some latest must buys are in there. But yeah, this could be another DSi situation. I don’t really hate it or anything yet. But I don’t think it’s a stroke of genius either.

  • Jero

    I’ll wait a bit and buy a refurbished model; a friend bought a nintendo XL and it looks like a new one tbh

  • HonoraryCMC

    Guess I’m going to be waiting a while longer to replace my Ocarina or Time 3DS. It has served me well, but with the loss of my right shoulder button (it’s non responsive, not actually gone.) I do need a replacement. (I’m not getting rid of it, need a new model).

  • Eric Harris

    color me excited. I would have bought a “lite” or new revision any way. If it’s sort of like an apple style “upgrade” I’ll go for that too!

  • Amagidyne

    Hmm…well I think I’ll reserve judgement until I see just how many games end up being exclusives for the new one. Honestly, I still think the 3DS has a lot of life in it yet, and the 2DS and XL are still somewhat recent, so I don’t see production in 3DS games stopping just yet.

    (though, if it gets a bunch of cool exclusives I’ll be mad since I’m way too poor to afford a N 3DS right now lol)

  • Lara Croft

    Xenoblade Chronicles is exclusive to the new system. Because it uses the new CPU.

  • klkAlexar

    If Nintendo makes a new FE exclusive for this then I have no choice but to buy it, but for now I’ll wait since they didn’t even bothered upping the resolution. I wonder if the new games will be compatible with the 3DS successor? If so, even more reason to wait.

    • http://arumiinn.tumblr.com _Aliceeee_

      remember this was just announced
      more info on the new 3ds will be released from them soon

    • Princess_Eevee9

      Source for info?

  • Daniel Rossevelt

    They could have just released the new 3DS, and waited half a year and then released the New 3DS XL, I would have laughed so hard if they had done that.

    • darke

      That sounds like such a totally Nintendo thing to do.

  • Learii

    do people gonna buy those new 3DS, if they have the 3DS XL Pikachu or 3DS XL charizard or something more rare then those? -_-

    • Codex

      Yeah I got the zelda albw one not long ago either. Will wait and see what exclusives turn up

    • Matthew Baucom

      I have the blue pokemon x and y one. Im not to butt hurt over this because..it won’t be out till next year so I can wait till a special one comes up on the market in North America.

    • xPhoenixMoon

      I know I am not happy, I haven’t even had my ALBW 3DS XL for a year and I am not the type of person just to hold onto to a system just to look at it.

      So it sucks.

      I wouldn’t mind it so much if it weren’t a half assed attempt at a new system or the fact it has exclusive games that you won’t be able to play but its still a 3DS, really sucks for people who may have bought the 3DS months ago.

      Nintendo makes some of the most absurd decisions in the world. I swear… I just do not understand the point of this, just make an entirely new handheld not a middle ground one.

      • Learii

        I agree Nintendo suck if these new 3DS have exclusive games I mean is still a 3DS not a new handheld or something

  • Jin Kisaragi

    Nintendo should get rid of the region-lock.

  • Anontastic

    …Oh crap, wait, this is more or less a new system ENTIRELY. Like, 3DS games from now on are more than likely going to only work for the new version.

    3DS owners out there: Do you feel backhanded at all by this development? I feel like I would…

    • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

      nope it like the DSi

    • ronin4life

      Only some games will be NEW3ds only. Dsi was the same, and had a almost no games exclusive to it

      • Hound

        Don’t bet on the past too too much. We don’t know how developers will feel about the changes yet.

        DSi didn’t exactly add a slew of buttons etc. Its exclusives were games that used the cameras.

        • ianschopa

          That slew of new buttons has been out there for 2 years+

          It’s called the circle pad pro – and how many games support it?

          • Shinyhunter7

            That’s because the circle pad was an additional peripheral. Now it’s going to become standard to use the new buttons. Unless nintendo just wants to shoot themselves in the foot: “Here, have this new console. We’ll just pretend it doesn’t exist and make games like no one’s buying it, though.”

          • Hound

            Nativity changes things, which is why I’m curious to see how big of an adoption rate it’ll have in regard to exclusives (especially since the increased horse power wasn’t specified).

            Since the additional buttons and toggle are automatically used for games that use the extra horsepower, they’ll be fully used by any exclusives that crop up (there’s no reason not to. More buttons gives more options.)

            You mentioned the lack of circle pad pro games. With the release of the New 3DS, you never know, we may soon start seeing a rise in games that adopt the circle pad pro as a middle ground.

            Really, the question is whether a fair number of developers will consider the New 3DS console different and worthwhile enough to invest into it, thereby fully adopting the console over the 3DS at some point in the next few years.

            The massive number of 3DS consoles out there is bound to keep sales from being heavy enough for full adoption to happen quickly, but that depends on how much Nintendo pushes it and how developers perceive its specs

  • Christopher Nunes

    I don’t know if this is good timing or not, but my 3DS XL recently shut down on me and no longer works (the light turns on but the screen remain off and there’s no sound) and it looks like I might need a new 3DS if I can’t fix my old 3DS XL.

    I still have my old 3DS so I can use that again to play my games (need to see how to transfer my account from my 3DS XL when it’s no longer working back to my old 3DS once more) so I think this is a good opportunity for me to get a new, and better, 3DS model. Sucks it won’t come out in the US and Europe this year… hopefully early 2015.

    • Princess_Eevee9

      Sorry to hear that. Sounds like the problem I had. Not sure if this is coming out soon as you’d like it to though.

      • Christopher Nunes

        I called Nintendo and they’re repair it (sadly the warrant expired, had my XL more than a year) though it will cost me a bit. But hopefully I’ll get my XL back again to get the Azure Striker Gunvolt game and the upcoming 3DS games like Smash.

  • Land of Green Pasture

    But…. But…. okay, I’ll throw my Blue Xerneas XL, because of its region lock I can’t give it to my lil sister….

    • darke

      Or wait until they break the region lock. Looks like someone’s going to release something that allows homebrew soon. Hopefully that’ll allow region-free gaming too.

  • Jeremy Barnes

    Wow, Nintendo screwing their customers again. A New DS that will have games that can’t be played on previous iterations? Bull****

    • RocKM001 .

      Actually they probably *can* be played. With just a different control scheme. Kinda like RE on 3DS when it came out w/ the circle pro add on.

      • Jeremy Barnes

        Well, Nintendo and I disagree with that information

  • Hound

    *head-desk*
    It’s been 3 years since the 3DS, 2 since the the 3DS XL, and 1 since the 2DS.

    I hope the adoption rate for exclusives for the “new” version will be very very slow…

    ..And nintendo won’t pop up with a new model idea next year

    • darke

      Well they announced one exclusive on announcement day, so there’s little hope for that.

      I imagine what will happen will most games will be released to be cross-version; like PC games where all the fancy options are automatically turned off because your video card can’t support them, or you get terrible frame rates unless you turn off a lot of the extra shiny stuff; the cross-version ones will probably have an ‘old’ version that looks/performs terrible and the ‘new’ version that looks/performs like the 3DS usually does.

  • Cazar

    So if the screens are bigger will their resolutions also be higher? That was what I didn’t like about the XL. Why make the screen larger if it’s just stretching out an already low resolution?

    • Asura

      No way they upped the resolution.

      That’s why I’ll be sticking to the smaller model.

      • Cazar

        Seems like a missed opportunity if not then. Same goes for the whole region locking issue, but I guess I shouldn’t expect anything at this point.

        • Princess_Eevee9

          Region locking isn’t a issue. Just a vocal minority. Sucks that it’s there for people who don’t like it but not really a big deal.

          • Cazar

            >defending region locking

            Damage control much?

          • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

            Region lock -is- an issue; it means you cannot play games from other regions and not all games make it to a specific region in a timely fashion. Do you think SMTIV making it so late to Europe is NOT a big deal~?

            Saying that region lock is “just a vocal minority” is a gross understatement~.

          • Shippoyasha

            I absolutely agree. As an import game player, I am heavily impacted as well.

          • Princess_Eevee9

            That just means the developers have no faith that that specific region would buy the game. It is not entirely Nintendo’s fault and I’m sick of seeing that bullshit. But in the grand scheme of things there are more important things that need fixing then this.

          • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

            Actually, no. In the grand scheme of things, the only real thing that the 3DS needs fixed is the removal of region lock~.

          • Princess_Eevee9

            So I can login into the eShop right now and buy Fire Emblem for the GBA right now and enjoy it? Hell I’m still waiting on Pokémon Trading Card Game too. And the numerous Capcom games promised. Or the other 100 games I more I want to play right now but wasn’t happening? Sure I’m forgetting some more legitimate concerns but the Virtual Console was the only one I cared about.

          • Robert Dexter

            Nintendo decided to make their systems region locked, that is entirely their fault.

            More important things to do? Oh, yes. Nintendo totally isn’t a large company and isn’t capable of working on multiple things at once. Making these new systems region-free would be far too time consuming and would eat into their limited resources… No.

          • RocKM001 .

            Really? I guess the whole fuss w/ Operation Rainfall “was a small vocal minority” on “a niche game”? But hey US got the “numbers” and got an EU only release come out there right? Must be a “minority” if your outside NA I guess?

            Or perhaps there was the earlier fuss on Senran Kagura? Or Persona 4 Arena’s 2 year delay practically making it useless for EU players. And the last Rune Factory not being finished for EU?

            Sorry mate but if it was a “small minority” this issue wouldn’t be rearing its bloody ugly head every damn generation or a company decides to region lock a console.

            Like it or not we are in a *global* economy now and customers are much more informed on their preferred products. Gamers even more so.

          • Princess_Eevee9

            I’m sorry but most developers only care about markets that will make them the most money. And right now that’s Japan and America making the most for game developers. European countries were notorious for having poor game sales which told said developers that their products have no market value there. So yes they are a vocal minority that have just now started getting noticed. But I fail to see what that has to do with my post but I don’t care anymore to discuss this.

          • RocKM001 .

            Hahaha… EU is a “small” market? A whole continent w/ double the population of NA is a “small” market?

            I agree. I don’t think there is any further reason to continue this discussion =P

          • Princess_Eevee9

            I’d bring sales into this but I’m to lazy to look them up to many examples.

            Thanks for being civil about this. Have a good one.

          • Guest

            It also means I have to wait until this new 3DS is released in the US in order to play anything in English.

          • RocKM001 .

            Funny… I guess whole continents like EU and AU are “vocal minorities”…

          • Princess_Eevee9

            Most games that don’t get localize EVERYWHERE are very niche series. I’ll admit that a few times a couple major games glossed over certain counties but in its entirety it’s really not. All those people staying that if region-locking wasn’t an issue they’d buy said games are full of air. Not to mention the sheer volume of piracy that would happen if this were to happen.

          • darke

            Piracy? What a moronic excuse.

            Please point me to all the piracy on the vita? I see none.

            On, and the piracy on the PS3? It took them, what 6 years to break that and it was region free! The 360 only lasted a year or so before it was broken wide open and it was region locked.

            Region locking, like homebrew, only gives more reasons for people to try to break the DRM. I know I’m waiting for the region locking DRM to be broken on the 3DS before buying one.

    • Codi Schumacher

      because a bigger screen helps us to see things better

      • Cazar

        That’s only true if your nearsighted vision isn’t so great. The pixel density on the standard 3DS’ screen is already low enough to make out all of the pixels. Stretching it out like with the XL just makes it look blockier to me.

        • Codi Schumacher

          well FYI mine isnt so great the larger screen helps me see details better :P

          • Shinyhunter7

            That doesn’t apply to everyone, though, so there’s not much point in bringing it up. People with vision problems already know about their own problems and will have the option for the larger screen. For anyone else, it’s worth noting that the larger screen looks worse.

          • Cazar

            Yeah but in this case both new models have larger screens than their original counterparts, which is why I brought it up.

          • Codi Schumacher

            If you hadnt noticed the last time they made the screens bigger they also more than doubled the battery life

  • Vash bane

    well darn. I finally got a 3ds awhile ago and this pops up? lol what timing XD

    • http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/25050-farm-mapping-contest/#entry239430 Chaos17

      We don’t know yet when it will be released. It’s not like you’re going to sell it next month.

  • Joshua Myers

    Glad i waited to get one for monster hunter

  • SlickRoach

    B-but what about the awesome custom 3DS models we have right now?

    And I’m still confused as to if this just a 3DS 3.0 or an actually “new, new” 3Ds.

  • xPhoenixMoon

    No comments on the ZL and ZR button placement? There is no way in hell you are going to be able to hit those comfortably, without accidently pressing the L and R.

    I’ve been trying to figure this out for a while now and I have to hold my 3DS XL in a weird position just to be able to bend my finger around the L and R like that.

    I think this is completely stupid anyway, they should have just waited and made a completely new handheld, not one that is the same but slightly upgraded and even worse is already getting a pretty big exclusive game announced.

    Seriously what the hell is Nintendo thinking over there? I understand they aim to be different but sometimes they try way too hard for no apparent reason at all. DS all over again with all its damn models, no reason a system ever needs that many remodels and the same is happening with the 3DS.

    Instead of just making something completely new they just keep pissing off people who bought the older models only to be told there wouldn’t be any upgraded models.. They said the same thing when the 3DS released, low and behold the 3DS XL came out months later… I mean it is just lame how they go about this.

    It is almost insulting and why couldn’t they have thought of this when they made the 3DS XL because it isn’t like it took a lot of thought to make this new one.

    They better not try this with the Wii U because that will be crossing the line. I’m not buying another Wii U that is slightly upgraded.

    • RocKM001 .

      To be fair it’s not like there was massive technical leaps between the GBA, SP and Micro when they came out. With the exception of the much needed screen lighting and new form.

      That being said I understand the frustration myself. I quite like my classic 3DS and I’m really not as keen for an upgrade.

    • http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/25050-farm-mapping-contest/#entry239430 Chaos17

      Nintendo hardly make bad choices about this. Just look at the pro controller. They know what they’re doing with controles man.

      • Shippoyasha

        Um. I disagree with you. N64 was a hand-destroyer and early Gameboys, DSes and Gamecube had some really questionable button placements too. They can do a lot of things right, but they are far from perfect. If anything, there’s some controller quirks I outright hated.

        • darke

          Ug I had the original small DS, it was only when Nintendo released the larger one I could play games for more then half an hour at a time.

          You haven’t mentioned the first Wii waggle stick too, it’s imprecision was Kinect-worthy; it was only when they got the MotionPlus thing when I got get it to respond nicely. :?

          • Shippoyasha

            The original DS of mine had the speakers crap out, the hinges broken and it dug into my hands enough to cut me. I don’t have fond memories of it. The revision was better, though the lack of a grip in Nintendo handhelds is kind of irksome. An addon is pretty much a necessity for me.

  • tubers

    So Minecraft 3DS incoming?

  • RagingTiger44

    I’m torn between parting with my 3DS XL and the potential to play Xenoblade on the go.

  • Jesse Torres

    This is basically a new generation handheld. Talk about “updates”. They should have named that system something else.

  • lucario378

    Is this the next gen 3DS?

    • kylehyde

      No, is more like the DSi was to the DS/DSlite

    • LightZero

      It will be what the GBC was to the Gameboy and DSi was to the DS.

  • Sentinel

    Though apparently, Nintendo still hasn’t learned their lesson when it comes to names.

    I mean, at least call it something like “3DS Deluxe” or “3DS 2″ for I care, at least something a bit more unique than “New 3DS”.

    • exrazer

      Something tells me it’ll be a japan only name, like how LL is.

      • Sentinel

        One can hope.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/DisturbedKoala DisturbedKoala

      I quite prefer N3DS. The suggestions you gave are boring.

      • ReMeDyIII

        Oh, because New 3DS isn’t boring either. Awesome.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/DisturbedKoala DisturbedKoala

          I’m saying to replace the “new” as simply “n”, idiot. Much like a simple coding. It’s much cooler that way.

  • Some Hyena

    To everyone complaining about this being a “new” console, until there’s more info I urge you to think of it in these terms:
    Many new games for PS4 and Xbox One also have come out for Xbox 360 and PS3 since release. Maybe not even the majority, but many.
    Could it not also be possible that this is a similar situation, where most people make primarily normal old 3DS games and this New 3DS has some extras, or even just upgraded graphics?

  • http://www.myspace.com/Juan_Rod bluejuan85

    Hmmm I’ll wait till I hear more info about it before I consider purchasing one. I can see the name again being a bother to some peeps. While I’m pleased Xenoblade Chronicles is coming for it I’m quite happy with my Wii copy.

  • Chardo

    if it where multiregion I would be pre-ordering a japanese one ASAP

    • Gekokujou

      Same here, I much prefer the Vita due to Sony learning to make their machines region free.

      • lpchaim

        If only there wasn’t that stupid one account lock it would be the perfect approach, much like their home consoles.

        • Gekokujou

          I couldn’t agree more. But it’s better than what Nintendo are still doing. I’m probably saying too much here, but region-locking is such an outdated approach that kills sales. Microsoft at least learned this lesson as well.

  • azureknight

    Holding off on getting a 3DS finally paid off. Will buy one as soon as they’re released in the states, unless I can get an old 3DS XL for dirt cheap this black friday. That analog stick looks really stupid though

  • Seth Rich

    Have to admit, for new hardware and such, Xenoblade didn’t look all that great. It’s impressive they got it to work and everything, but it still just barely looks like it moves along. Until this device gets some really tempting exclusives like say Klonoa 3 or an F-Zero action game starring Captain Falcon, I don’t feel tempted at all to buy this.

    • Ann Weschenfeller

      Either it’s a very early alpha (in wich case they should have waited until they had a better build) or the New 3DS upgraded CPU isn’t that big of a deal. In either case, it’s underwhelming.

      • Seth Rich

        Yeah, I think it will look somewhat better over time. I think the reason this came into existence was for Smash, Monster Hunter, and Dragon Quest Ten. Still wonder what those exclusives could be. Maybe they have to do with Amiibo as the word “New” shares the same font for some reason. I don’t know. Conspiracy theories abound.

      • Enzo

        Well, one thing is that screenshots/recordings of the 3DS screen tend to look less appealing than it does in person, but it still doesn’t look very detailed and such. However, I think it should also be pointed out that the screens are small and, therefore, when blown up, the PPI is actually reduced quite significantly (which also is likely very connected to the original point I made).

    • Sydney Losstarot

      There were parts in Xenoblade that had a lot of lag I hope the cpu of the New 3DS is capable of running the game without the lag.

  • Ren Yuumei

    DAMNIT

  • ZetaSiren

    I assume I can still play all my 3DS games on my 3DS XL or will they no longer work? Essentially is this the DS 3? (DS, 3DS , this thing.)

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Yes, your 3DS games will still work.

    • DuskSharkEX

      You can still play your 3DS games.

    • Link

      Its still a 3DS. Just a hardware revision. Aka DS -> Ds Lite -> DSi.

      • Timovisch

        True, but it’s quite possible this N3DS will get a lot of exclusive games which will be unplayable on the regular 3DS / XL. In that way it’s more then just a hardware revision.

        The DSi also had a few exclusive (most where because of the camera I believe).

        • darke

          One exclusive announced at launch and more planned.

          That’s ignoring things like performance difference in semi-competitive games like monster hunter with better FPS and such.

        • Link

          We have no idea what the term “Exclusive” means though, it could simply be digital titles like the DSi got or it could be more big titles like Xenoblade, But consider the 3DS’s 45 million userbase they wouldn’t want to lose out on those sales. Xenoblade seems more like a showcase title than anything indicative of future plans.

          Nintendo also talked about cross compatible games, ones that took advantage of the N3DS extra hardware but was perfectly compatible with 3DS, stuff like Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest X, and Final Fantasy Explorers, so expect to see more of these kinds of titles rather than them focusing on exclusive N3DS ones.

  • TerrenceEncore Jones

    Pausing at “micro SD cards”. I still see myself getting one.

  • Bacon_n_Lettuce

    Gahhhhh, and I finally caved and bought a Japanese 3DS last month to complement my US one… wonderful timing. Ah well, I guess I could always trade up.

  • Soldier

    Don’t like that the release date won’t be around same time as Japan’s release date. By the time this comes out in the USA, I probably will have lost interest in wanting one of these or be broke. I think Japan should be smarter and try to release this to the USA quicker unless there’s a reason they don’t release it around the same time as in Japan. Meaning maybe it still has bugs in it? Who knows, but from a business perspective I don’t find it to be that smart of a move to release this after Christmas in the USA.

    • darke

      They can’t make enough of them in time. It’ll likely be a staggered launch outside of Japan as well; probably US then EU.

  • Kayriss Wins

    I think the real question on our minds is, will it be region locke-

    Reggie: Yes

    :(

    • lpchaim

      Oh yes… As much as I’d love that it’s not happening anytime soon haha

    • Robert Dexter

      Nintendo needs to stop with the region locks, there is no reason for it.

  • Mark Lengod

    To tell the truth, never liked the original 3DS. My current one is actually the second one I bought. (the first one got a black screen and the price to fix it in my country was equivalent to half of a brand new one)

    The console itself always felt like a plastic cheap toy (to me),the sound is low, the flip sounds like it will break everytime I ”open” it to play, the camera is so goddamn AWFUL (and so is its gyroscope), both screens scratching themselves, lack of a second analog (Circle Pad is alwful) the internet connection always felt bad on it even with a decent connection.

    By the way, why just the top screen has the 3-D effect? Why not both?
    If one is so interested in 3-D gimmicks, why not just make a dual-screen console with both screens using it?

    Despite my appreciation for the games, most of them always felt handicapped to me like they would/could be just SO much better with some few improvements on the hardware itself (or even bigger game cards , what about that talk about 8GB game cards/games?).

    SMT4 comes to mind, despite my love for this game.

    Some of the problems are personal, some are just there, some were fixed in the 3DS XL and others persist since the original DS and DSi, so I don’t mind a change of hardware (since, like I said, never really liked the console to begin with).

    Then again, I’m not willing to buy this new upgraded model for just a few games (Gameboy Color never appealed to me too, in the same way). Probably gonna wait for the next gen of Nintendo portables…while still buying the games of this New 3DS.

    I always bought games before getting the console actually, so really don’t mind to do this again. And Nintendo tends to make new consoles backward compatible with the previous one.

    Who knows, maybe in 5 years Nintendo will have a decent/strong network system, similar to the PSN/Live so getting older or digital games won’t be an issue anymore.

    (Still didn’t like that preview of Xenoblade, though, hoping for optimizations untill the final release)

  • kuzuha

    Finally I have a reason to buy Japanese 3DS~ Early Christmas present for myself.

  • epy

    Glad I waited. I know how it feels to get a new console only for a better, cheaper model to get released a couple of months later.

  • stein11

    I wonder if this “new” 3ds is more powerful just in term of processor power or also in term of graphical capabilities?

    • Morgan Rodgers

      It has been confirmed to have a better CPU, and there are some rumors floating around that it has more RAM and VRAM as well, which would improve graphic capabilities (though there is no word on whether the screen gets an improvement in resolution; I’m guessing not).

      It’s hard to really know how much of that improved power would go to the improved 3d effect (which requires head tracking), and how much would go to improving game performance.

      • triablos

        Increase in resolution will only make games look worse, like DS games look worse on normal 3ds. And I doubt they would optimise games for it

        • Morgan Rodgers

          I don’t know, they could use the extra cpu and ram to upscale and apply antialiasing to older games. Or issue patches for older games to be rendered at a higher resolution, in some cases. I would be REALLY surprised though.

          Are DS games upscaled? It’s been awhile since I put one in. There’s an option to play them at their original resolution though, right?

          • triablos

            DS games are upscaled by default, which makes most games look worse.

  • ragingmerifes

    That’s some serious bullshit that Fantasy Life is out on October and this doesn’t even have a date. I want to kill myself.

    • RinaDawg

      Calm down! XD It’s not the end of theworld

    • http://www.spaghetti.com Kaisenex

      wow….really? you want to kill yourself…

      • ragingmerifes

        Yes. If I can’t have my chibi kawaii life in a good 3D, I might as well tear off my throat.

  • lorelai4cuties

    lol they ditched the old owners of 3ds with this new 3ds…i kinda feel sorry for 3ds owners they have 2 buy it again ^-^
    im glad i didnt buy one

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/DisturbedKoala DisturbedKoala

      They’re still going to be making games for normal 3ds but some games such as Xenoblade Chronicles can only be played on the new ones. That said, I was already planning on getting a new xl to replace my old normal 3ds eventually. This new 3ds xl would likely come next year so that gives more than enough time to save for something even better than what I originally wanted.

    • Attribule

      Who said anybody had to buy these systems? The people that are convinced they’re being forced to buy these new ones are idiots.

      Yeah, it’ll have very few exclusives, but those are games that literally wouldn’t have existed on the older models to begin with.

    • Morgan Rodgers

      I bought a 3dsxl about a year and a half ago, and I’m not bothered. There will be probably a very small number of games that will only be compatible with the new systems; there are not going to be a lot of 3rd party publishers willing to pass on the huge existing install base of the normal 3ds, and Nintendo won’t really want to burn those people either (some people will always feel burned though, that can’t be helped).

  • Codi Schumacher

    If people really want to go about this the smart way and save money while getting these new handhelds they should pre-order them and pay in installments each month since that way you wont just have a huge amount to pay all at once.

    • Tylor Boreas Makimoto


      My gods, you’re a genius! And this is totally not sarcastic!

      I’m serious. I never thought of doing that.

    • triablos

      That’s cool, but not a lot of shops offer that (at least here in the UK that I know of) and it usually comes with interest%

      • Codi Schumacher

        No interest where i shop just a small down payment normally about 5 dollars on most games also helps to make friends with the store manager lol

        • triablos

          Wow, lucky you

  • Eric Harris

    I will keep my aqua blue 3DS for now. I’ll have to see how much GS offers for a “trade up” value. I am interested though. Stylus on the bottom is huge, I hate where it is now.

  • Hector Velar

    I’m still waiting for one that allows you to replace main screen with a tv

    • Mark

      they have it already, it’s called Wii U

  • Robert Dexter

    Glad I didn’t buy a 3DS yet.

  • WingsOfEternity

    ZZZ just bought a 3DS 2 weeks ago…

    • Ronldbx6

      Dang that sucks. I’ve had mines since april 2012. I Need a replacement because my shoulder buttons are dying so this is good news for me.

  • Xenu

    Let this be a lesson to only buy limited edition consoles so that they don’t depreciate in value when you need to upgrade.

  • Sean Robert Gerard Fernandez

    So is it cheaper or more expensive than the current models? That will be my deal breaker for replacing my launch 3DS. I like these to be honest, dem SNES buttons.

    • Soldier

      Rumors are it’s around the same price, however I can’t confirm or deny those Rumors. I don’t even know what a 3ds is selling for right now. I don’t know how accurate these rumors can be because this 3ds seems like an upgrade graphics wise so I don’t know how Nintendo could pull it off by selling it for a similar price tag. We shall see tho!

  • Ronldbx6

    Waiting on a price tag and release date for NA. Looks promising. Need to replace my 3DS because my shoulder buttons are dying. Might as well wait for this.

  • Milewide

    Good reason to put your foot down. Cheers.

  • 하세요

    And lose the ability to charge Japan $60+ for a basic 3DS game? Ha, fat chance. It’s not to keep you out, it’s to keep Japan in.

  • Attribule

    That’s like saying releasing the XL was a dick move to the original 3DS owners.

    All systems improve over time, not just the 3DS. If you want something you can get it sooner for a “lesser” version or wait a while for a better version.

  • http://LevelUpGeneration.blogspot.com/ KALiverin

    There’s nothing to defend because we go through this every year. A new 3DS model is announced, the internet explodes in rage and fury until everybody moves on eventually. It’s so old and expected by this point that it doesn’t bother me anymore. I had enough of that when the 2DS was announced.

    Really, nobody is forcing you to upgrade, so there’s nothing worth getting angry about. This isn’t the first time something like this has happened and it’s definitely not going to be the last.

  • Christopher C

    where have you been the past decade or so?
    gb->gbcolor->gba->gbaSP
    DS->DSlite->DSi

  • persona_yuji

    I don’t know… one thing is making a bigger screen, another is upgrading a console to the point the older model won’t be able to play some games.

  • Uvers

    Yes but you mixed new consoles with upgraded iterations none of the DS upgrades were forced you could still play the same games now that’s changed with games specifically for new 3ds

  • 하세요

    Except GBA SP was merely a different model, as well as DSLite and DSi. You could still play all GBA games on both and all DS games across all 3 of those.

    GB Color was a little different but it was an early, experimental time.

  • http://LevelUpGeneration.blogspot.com/ KALiverin

    Technically the DSi had exclusive content too. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the previous iterations of the DS didn’t have that online store. Sure, it doesn’t have nearly the same impact, but people are overreacting to the idea of exclusive content on this New 3DS. All we know right now is that Xenoblade is getting a remake and at the moment, it’s the only game available for it. There will obviously be more down the road, but it’s impossible to say now if those are going to be just remakes or unique, original content.

    With that in mind, it’s not worth getting upset about at this moment in time. We have to wait for more information to know if this is going to be that big a deal or not.

  • Juan Manuel M. Suárez

    Technically, you are forced to upgrade or otherwise you won’t be able to play a game as magnificent as Xenoblade Chronicles~.

  • ScoobyDum

    Game Boy Color had exclusive games, the cartridges were black. The DSi also had exclusive games as well as the first eshop, with all of its apps and downloadable games.

    Nintendo still made games that were compatible will all models of that generation, this will be no different.

    People are crying over nothing, this isn’t a new generation, its just DS -> DSi.

  • Money?Muney??All my luveee!!!

    Remember DSi? Remember Gameboy Color?

  • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

    Rape is much too strong (and not very accurate) of a word here.

    Also, this isn’t new for hardware, as pointed out by others.

  • Jeremy Barnes

    Yes, Yes I do. It’s why I said again. I don’t get why people believe Nintendo is ‘fan friendly’.

  • KanjiLikesBoys

    remember people being pissed when theyy removed the GBA cart slot from the DSI (or was it the 3DS?)

  • hairyoldman

    Wasn’t Gameboy Color considered a Gameboy successor? I remember it being a really big deal at the time

    With DSi, yeah, I guess you had DSiWare but that just wasn’t a big deal compared to packaged games. I never felt left out by not buying one

  • Money?Muney??All my luveee!!!

    Yup. remember Gameboy micro where they removed old GB game slot?

    It is not surprising thing to happen here. It happen almost everytime.

    Remember PSP GO which removed UMD Slot?

  • ddh819

    remember when you had to type in your games in basic from books or magazines?

  • KanjiLikesBoys

    People are not surprised, we are angry and frustrated. These are legitimate reactions. Just because this shit happened before doesn’t mean it’s suddenly OK for it to keep happen for the people who didn’t like it in the first place

  • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

    Right, but the thing with Game Boy Color (and I suspect the thing we’ll see here, too), is that games were developed that worked on both Game Boy and Game Boy Color but just had extra features for Color. I can see games being developed that work on both models but have extra features for the New 3DS.

  • http://jesse-dylan.livejournal.com Jesse_Dylan

    They’re not removing any functionality here, though. It still does everything the 3DS does, including play DS games. So we’re not losing a GBA slot in this case.

  • Jeremy Barnes

    So because Nintendo has done it before, makes it ok now?

  • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

    What? I didn’t say anything about any of that except that your wording is way out of left field.

    If it’s been done before, why get so upset as if it’s new? Shouldn’t we be used to this by now if that’s the case?

  • Jeremy Barnes

    That makes zero sense. If something was done before, we should be used to it? I don’t think I’m the one out in left field on that line of thinking.

    It’s dirty regardless of if they did it before.

  • KanjiLikesBoys

    You know. you’re totally correct.
    It’s not loosing anything as it upgrades but since it’s still mostly the same device visually and in nomenclature it doesn’t seem like an improvement over my 1 year old 3DSXL. It doesn’t seem fair or worth my investing of another $200+ to get this system that is only slightly bigger than my own (but more powerful inside) to play Xenoblade or whatever is the next one that announce exclusive for it.

    It’s not a vast improvement over my own system, just a memory boost and screen change and let’s see how many games even bother to continue program games in 3D. There’s no inherent value in it for me. It’s just the machine holding my game hostage

  • M’iau M’iaut

    If this is how you really feel, than I guess no one will mind when I say. Banned.

  • darke

    Sony seems to have survived fine without region locking. There’s little to reverse import anyway if the games don’t come with Japanese text outside of Japan.

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