Injustice Producer On Choosing Characters And Working With Street Fighter Controls

By Spencer . April 12, 2013 . 5:58pm

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Injustice: Gods Among Us isn’t the first fighting game with characters from the DC Universe. NetherRealm worked on the awkward Mortal Kombat and DC Universe mashup and a decade before when fighting games were all the rage that Sunsoft made a Justice League fighting game. Justice League Task Force never attempted to explain why Green Arrow could beat Superman in a fight. Back then if a rat was on a moon nobody asked questions, but the story mode in Injustice: Gods Among Us will tackle questions for DC fans. In this interview we talked to NetherRealm about selecting story arcs, using Street Fighter style controls, and Detective Chimp.

 

With so many DC characters out there, how did you pick characters for Injustice: Gods Among Us?

 

Erin Piepergerdes, Producer: It’s an extremely difficult process especially for a game like this. I mean it’s hard enough when we do a Mortal Kombat game because we’ve created so many cool characters over the years, but when you go into developing a game like Injustice and you have the full depth of the DC Universe to pull from there are some heated debates.

 

Obviously, we want to have a mix of big power characters like Solomon Grundy and Bane as well as a mix of the more agile guys like Flash and Nightwing. We look for a good mix of powers and styles. We kind of put characters in a few different broad categories and from there make sure we’re pulling evenly. While paying attention to at the same time fan favorites as well as we got some characters in there that are maybe a little more obscure to appeal to fans of the comic books. There are a lot of things we have to juggle and balance so it is certainly not an easy process by any means.

 

image What is one character that you wanted to put in, but you couldn’t put in?

 

Detective Chimp. I’m not even lying. Adam [Urbano] and I have been fighting to get Detective Chimp in the game, but we were overruled. It’s probably a little too crazy. We have fun making our games, but at the end of the game we want it to be a serious game and not super silly.

 

Speaking of the comic book fans, how is the story in Injustice going to address the DC lore when it comes to questions like how can superhero X defeat superhero Y?

 

From day one when we announced the game, people were like how is this going to make sense? How is Catwoman going to defeat Superman? The fans of the comics are really passionate about these characters and to some of them it might not make much sense. The good thing with this game is we had an opportunity to work with a couple of DC comic writers, Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti. We have our own internal story team that came up with pitches and we worked closely with them to explain all of these things – to explain how Batman can stand up against Superman and these sort of things.

 

Anybody that played the last Mortal Kombat, there was the story mode campaign. It was a couple hours long and it was a lot of content. We decided we want to go bigger and better with this game. Basically, there is a story mode to Injustice it’s going to explain all of these things.

 

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Can you explain how Batman can beat Superman?

 

Unfortunately, I really can’t because it’s key to the storyline. What I can say it’s a really cool take on these characters. I think there are going to be some surprises to help explain some of these matchups and why you see characters who are traditionally good fighting each other to begin with.

 

You’re definitely going to see alliances you wouldn’t expect. It’s part of the central plot line to the game. You might see people that might traditionally be a villain teaming up with a good character.

 

Besides the New 52, what story arcs did you pick out and say we want these to be in Injustice?

 

Similar to the roster selection there are so many storylines everyone has their personal favorites. One of the ones we’re really proud of that is in the game is if you preorder from Gamestop you get the Red Sun characters. That’s when Superman landed in Soviet Russia instead of in the States and what would have happened if he grew up in the Soviet Union. It’s a really cool storyline that gave us a chance to add some missions to the game as well as character skins that fit that storyline.

 

There is also the Darkest Night Batman. That’s another example where there are retail exclusives with skins and things that deal with that storyline. There are a few of those out that are out there. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve for down the road.

 

Are there going to be more DLC stories?

 

We always like to support these games as long as people are playing them. Dealing with the DC Universe, there is a lot of content that we can add in this game to help extend the playtime.

 

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I’ve seen Injustice a couple of times now and the controls reminded me more of Street Fighter than Mortal Kombat with three buttons for attacks and holding back to block. Why did you switch to this style?

 

We wanted to switch the fight style with this game mainly because we want to differentiate it from our other games like Mortal Kombat. We didn’t want people to play Injustice and think it’s basically a reskinned Mortal Kombat. It gave us a chance as developers to try some new things. There are some similarities to the other game you mentioned, but there are also some difference that we’re doing that are unique to Injustice. Instead of having L1 as your block button like we do in Mortal Kombat, it’s back to block. I usually play more Mortal Kombat so for me it’s more difficult. I have to practice Injustice more. You’ve seen the interactive object and environment. We don’t have that in Mortal Kombat, from a development perspective it gave us a chance to grow and try new things.

 

You have to make sure you have balanced attacks using the three buttons, but what element you add to the fourth face button to keep the gameplay fun and quick paced. With Injustice we came up with are character traits is something unique for each character and hopefully adds an element of strategy.

 

When you switched to the three button style did you think this made Injustice more accessible?

 

When we’re dealing with the DC license we’re going to appeal to a broader audience than we do with Mortal Kombat. Most fighting games in general, are a niche market. There are plenty of players out there that are super passionate about fighting games, but we want the game to reach a much larger audience.

 

The three button control scheme does tend to lend itself well to a more casual market. Also, this game is teen rated compared to our last game, Mortal Kombat, being rated M. It does go into our thought process to reach a larger audience.

 

What do you think of the fighting game market in general? There was a drought for awhile, but there are so many more fighting games available today.

 

It’s actually a great time to be a fan of fighting games and also a developer of fighting games. Because it’s really exciting to see our competitors, some of the other developers what they’re coming up with. They’re really raising the bar across the field. That just drives us to go bigger and better with each of our games.

 

Especially if you’re a fan of the games, it’s a really great time. There are some great options out there. Hopefully, people will give Injustice a try since there is a lot for people to play and enjoy.

 

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Aside from having a license like the DC Universe, how else can you expand the fighting game genre?

 

It kind of going back to what you’re saying, making sure it’s accessible. We got a license that appeals to fans of more than just video games, like people who are into comic books or the movies. But, making sure that people can just pick up and play the game without having to study frame animation data to pull off some cool moves. We’re well positioned to appeal to that casual market and then making sure that when people do hear about it we’re accessible in terms of social media and getting commercials out there so people are aware of it.

 

S.T.A.R. Labs reminds me a lot of the Challenge Tower in Mortal Kombat. We saw the space flying mission which has QTEs. What else can you tell us about this?

 

You mentioned the one where you actually fly Superman’s ship. We have other ones in there… I apologize I don’t know what I can and can’t talk about here. S.T.A.R. Labs is kind of like Challenge Tower 2.0. Challenge Tower in Mortal Kombat is something we threw together because we wanted to make sure there was a lot of content for single player, people that don’t necessarily want to go online and play the game home on their own.

 

With S.T.A.R. Labs its a little more cohesive. You’ve got ten or so missions per character that tell a mini-story and then there are challenges within S.T.A.R. Labs and almost achievements for each of those missions. If you get ‘em all, three stars on all 240+ missions, there are some really cool unlocks and prizes you will receive for having gone through all of that.

 

Now that the roster is almost completely revealed, who is your favorite character to play as?

 

It’s funny because that changes frequently. Every time the designers put a new character in I swear my attention goes to that character. Overall, if I had to pick one and this is tough because there are a couple I really like, I always seem to come back to the Flash. I love his speed, the quick attacks he’s got. Honestly, I’m not very good at fighting games so I need a quick character. Solomon Grundy is one of my favorite characters, as well, but he’s a big brawler and he’s a lot slower. When I’m using him versus someone in our studio who is much better at playing the game I’ve got no chance so I go back to the Flash.


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  • Kaihedgie

    Great, another setup for Batman beating Superman x:

    • Ethan_Twain

      It is to DC’s discredit that there are ever any setups for content other than Batman beating Superman

      • Richard N

        And going against everything established in Canon, I guess.

  • Valtiel Ikari

    ….why no Jason Todd Redhood?
    (seriously, I seen web pages dedicated entirely to demanding him in the game, I actually thought I was the only one, but there is almost a Legion)

    • Sardorim

      No Jason Todd, Tim Drake, or Cassandra Cain. Maybe at least one of them will be in a sequel or spiritual sequel to this.. Or DLC but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    • Dhruv Rajyagor

      I always thought Red Hood would be perfect for this game, since it goes to Superman’s argument to Batman, since as of Injustice, Superman said he had the will to kill criminals now, which is what Jason said to Batman after he was revived in the Lazarus Pit, as whereas Batman does not have the will to kill.

      If Red Hood were to be in the game, I’m almost certain he’d side with the Regime as opposed to the Insurgency.

  • Ben Sylvia

    It’s because Batman created a form of airborne kryptonite and covered the atmosphere with it, making supes weak enough where any schmuck who somewhat knows what he’s doing could KO the big S.

    • ThunderGod_Cid

      Sounds like what Batman would do, and that’s why Batman can/will beat Superman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/segasaturnsnk SegaSaturnSNK

    Hoping for Lobo as DLC.

  • puchinri

    Honestly, I think picking characters for a DC fighting game is easier than picking characters for a crossover game, but there’s a few reasons for that. What makes it easiest, is that yes you can use fan-favorites (which are obvious, niche and non), but also go by who actually exists in continuity at the moment (which are even fewer now than before).

    Of course, I think if they did something wackier and just “for fun”/silly, it would expand their possibilities a lot (but DC themselves would also get in the way of that quite a bit, I feel).

    The game is pretty fun though, and I like some of the aspects they added. It’d be cool to see them take a more silly route one day and do more of what they want~. (If they ever got to and wanted to.)

    • ThunderGod_Cid

      You mean like the Marvel VS Capcom series.

      IMO WB should of had Capcom do a Marvel VS DC fighting game instead of this. Good god I really want that to happen.

      BUT as awesome as that would be, it would be a legal nightmare, with neither side agreeing with the roster selections, or the story, or the money, etc.

      I still remember all the BS that Capcom had to deal with just to get Disney to agree on MvC3 roster.

      I can’t imagine what kind of mountains they would have to move just to get Disney AND WarnerBros to be in the same room, much less agree on anything.

      • puchinri

        Pretty much, yeah. Something close, at least (like any Capcom crossover game).

        That would be fantastic! We can only hope for it one day. To be honest, I’d love Bamco to do a version too (considering they’re more versatile with martial and weapon-based fighting styles). Having Capcom and Bamco collab on a Marvel vs DC fighting game would be the most magical thing ever.

        The legal part wouldn’t be too bad maybe, since they used to do comic crossovers together and if convinced, it may go somewhere. I think as of now, DC would be harder to work with, but yeah, they’d hit some walls somewhere. (Oh, yikes, I forgot Disney was involved too, that does change things.)

        Hmm. That is a good point. Well, I will always hold out hope, but probably disappoint myself with the low chances. ^u^;

  • Guest

    Switch to Street Fighter style? then how come I still see directions on the moveset that are not using quarter or half circle backward or forward and still MK9 direction with left down, left up, left right, etc.

    • GuyAlpha

      Did you activate the Street Fighter motions? I’ll post the directions.

      -Go to the options menu
      -Click Bug me_1
      -hit up 3 times
      -right 1 time
      -down 1 time
      -Click X/A

    • ThunderGod_Cid

      I know right.
      The whole time I was playing the demo it STILL felt like I was playing Mortal Kombat.

  • Crimson_Cloud

    Why did didn’t you ask him why they can’t make a female character’s face look attractive ingame. No, I’m not trolling. I seriously think that it’s a big minus, just like it was with new Mortal Kombat.

    • ThunderGod_Cid

      That’s……a pretty damn good question.
      Another good one is, Why do all their characters have to grunt after EVERY single hit or move.

    • Asura

      Sure you’re not trolling? I’d actually prefer it if you were.

      • Crimson_Cloud

        I know that I’m being an ass, and I love Mortal Kombat, but it was weird to me that Cage was much more hotter then Sonya. I’m not looking for Dead or Alive beauty… just, normal…

  • SunOatBoatMatadorQuattro

    I see Spencer does not believe Batman can defeat Superman unlike most Batman fans.

    • Vash bane

      dark knight returns 2 …nuff said :/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Samson/1509177659 Lorde Mombi

    so poison ivy is one of the dlc characters. right? Yay :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Marrero/639815479 Benjamin Marrero

    thats funny, i instantly think it felt like a reskinned mortal kombat.

    until they learn how to make gameplay fluent and not stiff, maybe it wont feel like mortal kombat

  • Vash bane

    There are plenty of players out there that are super passionate about fighting games, but we want the game to reach a much larger audience.

    well..now that has my vote XD

    im not really good at fighting games(MK im looking at you <.<) but when I played the demo I noticed I actually liked this game :D

  • http://www.blackxino.blogspot.com/ Xino

    so they wanted to try something new and just turned the control to Street Fighter:/

    many people are saying the control can be switched between MK and SF style.
    i don’t think it’s true because if it is, this producer would have said something:/

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