Why Drakengard Had Forbidden Love Between Siblings And Other Insights

By Sato . April 16, 2013 . 12:02am

Taro Yoko doesn’t often enjoy interviews, but he and other key developers talk Drakengard with Dengeki Online staff members, while enjoying some drinks, during a lively get-together at a bar.

 

It’s a well known fact that Taro hates doing actual interviews, as often stated on his personal blog, but he agreed to a different style of meeting with Dengeki, which ended up being a more relaxed gathering with co-workers to discuss Drakengard. As Yoko stated: “I’ll do anything as long as there’s beer!”

 

The gathering consisted of Drakengard 3 creative director Taro Yoko, promotional manager Ryutaro Sasaki and three staff members of Dengeki Online. Yoko also invited Akira Yasui, director of Drakengard 2, as a surprise last-minute guest.

 

After sharing their first round of beers and some laughter, Yoko is quick to start talking Drakengard 3. When asked about how far along in development the game is, Yoko says that it was reported that development is 60% complete. However, it’s actually closer to 80%.

 

Yoko also states his dislike for Drakengard 1’s camera, as he believes that it wasn’t exactly fitting for the time it was released. Rather than saying “The past was great and I’ll make something better next time,” Yoko wanted to let this be known as part of his brutal honesty, as he believes that fans deserve truth and honesty above all.

 

Aside from the talk at the bar, Dengeki’s staff had also prepared a few questions for Yoko, to which he provided answers on pamphlets. Here’s a couple:

 

How did Drakengard come to be? Please tell us the secret story of its development.

 

It was during a drinking session with Cavia’s producer, Takuya Iwasaki, and Square Enix’s Shiba-san. At the time we had a developer who worked on Ace Combat and we asked Square Enix: “How about something involving flying on dragons?” Dynasty Warriors was popular at the time and it was Shiba that insisted on implementing Dynasty Warriors features.

 

What’s the reason behind including immoral features such as forbidden love between siblings?

 

If I make something half-hearted or normal, I don’t think it’ll beat the likes of Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest. I believe that it is what led to the wild pitch result of what we have. At the time, there was a popular anime that featured 12 sisters (Sister Princess) so I borrowed from that and made an ending with many sisters. However, the involved staff didn’t agree with the idea, so we had to kill off certain elements.

 


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  • tubers

    Why incest? Animu influence basically.. xD

    Wonder why that’s so popular for anime compared to other media.

    • Raze

      Something forbidden is always fun….

    • ZeroWalker

      So you mean the incest part in game of thrones in the Lannister famelie also is anime influenced ?

      • tubers

        Don’t take it from me.. Take it from the interviewee.

        “Sister Princes- so I borrowed from that..”

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      Maybe I read too much hentai. It seems pretty common to me :(
      And with many anime (well more like light novels).

      • tubers

        It didn’t take hentai for me to realize flavors of incest is much more common than more popular media

  • JustThisOne

    That’s the spirit! Normalcy can’t survive! You must be crazy, wild and free. >:D Or at least that’s what I’m hoping Drakengard 3 will lean towards.

    • Curan_Altea

      Necrophilia seems the logical route.

      • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com/ SoulArbiter

        Hahahaha… Oh…

      • landlock

        I’m fairly sure the first Drakengard already covered that if I remember correctly.

      • Setsu Oh

        dragon necro! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY

      • Juan Andrés Valencia

        What about necropedophile furries? That’s the more logical route.

      • ShadowDivz

        The female body of Pain comes to mind…
        What was she animal path?

  • Go2hell66

    oh animay…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

      I believe this comes out way be4 incest in anime/LN is a fad.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/VGVNGamer VGVNGamer

    To be fair, real incest in anime and other japanese media is pretty
    rare. Most of the time, it´s love between stepsiblings and I don´t think
    there is anything wrong with that.

    • landlock

      Myself Yourself and Yosuga no Sora are the only mainstream shows that I can think of that had real incest. Even Sister Princess never developed anything like that.

      • biskmater

        you’re right now that I think about it, also I praise your taste, it is not often that i find someone who has watched M. Y.

  • ShadowScipio

    To be fair, Caim didn’t really seem to reciprocate or even know about it. What with his looking away and the subsequent suicide. If he had known/felt the same, that scene would probably have played out way differently.

  • Warboss Aohd

    an’ da baby eatin’ elf an’ pedophile lumberjack?

    • Victoria [Rokuso3]

      That was probably because of drugs.

  • Mister_Nep

    Wait the older games had incest? I must go find a copy of these games.

    • MrTyrant

      Something like that, it’s more an unrequited love for one of them and all those insane characters in the middle lol and crazy endings.

    • brian

      Well the first game did at least, but that was removed, so it makes a certain scene makes no sense at all because of that.
      Also, pedophilia was removed.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      As what the posters said below, only in the Japanese release it was outright stated. Everywhere else only hinted towards it.

  • Victoria [Rokuso3]

    So Drakengard 1 idea was born in a meeting with alcohol. Well, that explains a lot.

    “If I make something half-hearted or normal, I don’t think it’ll beat the likes of Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest.” That’s so true. The only reason I love Drakengard is the batshit insane story.

    • Vash bane

      lmao haha

    • 5parrowhawk

      I have this theory that all the best Japanese media (games, anime, etc) is conceptualized under the influence of a large amount of alcohol.

      If you have a passing acquaintance with Japanese corporate culture, it makes perfect sense.
      This also explains Touhou.

      • Alexandra Cordes

        It’s so true.

  • Kyle Solis

    This is just like my Japanese animes, so 5:1 odds that it’s revealed they’re not blood-related.
    IT REALLY IS JUST LIKE MY JAPANESE ANIMES!

  • Xien12

    The topic of incest is a very minor thing, when compared to the presence of cannibalism and pedophilia in the game.

    • ShadowDivz

      Whaaat? Please elaborate, im curious.
      If messed up stuff like this is in the 1st one i might just pick up the 3rd.

      • Warboss Aohd

        2 o’ yer party memberz consist o’ a Pedophile Lumberjack an’ a Elf who eatz babiez……literally.

        • ShadowDivz

          And the MC feels it’s a good idea having them in the party why….?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1598149010 Rayhan PromisedGallery

            because Caim doesn’t care as long as he can murder the shit of the whole empire army

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/DisturbedKoala DisturbedKoala

            Makes plenty of sense.

          • Warboss Aohd

            da main character iz a violent sociopath who iz far worse den either o’ dem. He quite enjoyz murderin’ enemy troopz.

          • prometheus126

            Well, he can’t say anything about it……get it? Cause his pact price was his voice?

        • Warboss Aohd

          ok, why woz da thumbz down? I read a full let’s o’ Drakengard on da LP Archive, da Lumberjack iz a pedophile, an’ da Elf literally eatz babiez. I did not exaggerate, it woz not a opinion, it woz fact.

  • Solomon_Kano

    Incest was easily the least striking thing about Drakengard’s story lol.

    • Ferrick

      and it was one sided too lol

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1598149010 Rayhan PromisedGallery

      incest is nothing when we already have mute murderer, blind pedo, child eater, annoying priest, and annoying forever kid LOL

  • Keyanf

    But that’s forbidden love! Two siblings mustn’t do such things!

  • Bloodios

    This just made we wish that the original to be HD-remastered and this time localized without the BS censoring.

    • Vash bane

      it was censored? what was token out?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1598149010 Rayhan PromisedGallery

        pedophillia and canibalism scene was removed.
        And for the incest, they basically just removed one sentence in the dialogue

        • prometheus126

          Coincidentally, it’s the one sentence that explain why Furiae kills herself.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    After reading this, I want the game even more now =^_^=

  • Sardorim

    Eh. Anime has been doing this for years in Japan as have certain game types that never made it to the west. Though it is bold to do this and aim for a western release as I’m sure the Soccer Moms and Hyper Religious Types, who will never play the game, will make a huge fuss over it. Sorta like how they went crazy with the Alien/Lesbian Sex in Mass Effect 1.

    • ShadowDivz

      I know that’s what pisses me off the most. The ones who AREN’T playing it are the ones who get upset and go batshit insan– did you say alien/lesbian sex?
      I think it’s time i borrowed that game from my friend.

  • Eilanzer

    sorry but this is sick as hell…If you rly want to bang your own sister/brother…crap…In anime this is stupid…In real life this is disgusting!

    • Just Tim

      It got worse in real life: European royal families even used incest–fancily known as “inbreeding”–to keep their bloodlines ‘pure.’

      Side effects include: hemophilia, birth defects, mental defects…those are all I can name of at the moment.

      In addition, this real-life aspect was even used as a plot device in the Fire Emblem Jugdral saga.

      • Warboss Aohd

        Targaeryon’s come ta mind.

      • Firekitty

        Inbreeding can’t actually *cause* any illnesses or diseases, it just amplifies any genetic traits or tendancies, positive or negative, that a family might have. Inbreeding is commonly used in plants and animals to get certain desired results. The chances of a single generation producing any obvious negative results are very slim unless the family already has an extreme predisposition to some disease or other.

        There’s also the matter of the Westermarck effect; basically, people naturally develop an aversion to mating with people they were raised in close proximity to, blood-related or not…However, in cases where biologically related people meet for the first time as adults, there’s actually a high rate of incest/attraction.

        Not trying to advocate for incest or anything, it’s just kinda annoying to see people slinging around erroneous facts and ‘moral’ arguments.

        • Just Tim

          Specifically about inbreeding in animals, yes, it’s true that it’s used to get certain desire results. Case in point: white tigers.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKwY7yV5sYo

          And please DO take the time to watch the entirety of this video.

    • biskmater

      To a degree yes, but the notion of incest and forbidden love are pretty good ways of adding drama, and deviancy to an otherwise ordinary plot. So I would advise you to keep a more open mind, you never know what you’ll find.

  • prometheus126

    I wonder what forbidden things with Drakengard 3 have. Drakengard 2 didn’t really have much besides homosexuality [seemingly between Urick and Yaha] and a more-than-friendship relation between Caim and Angelus.

  • Soroth23

    Good to see that someone has the balls to freely admit when there game has a terrible element in it. The camera in the first game was BISMAL. Other then that though, LOVE both Drakengard games. Top notch, high hopes for 3.

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