By Ishaan . April 28, 2013 . 3:00pm
A new Dead or Alive 5 project is in development for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, Team Ninja announced at a “Playse” event in Tokyo today. Here’s a teaser trailer for the game:
Team Ninja up to their old fucking tricks, re-selling their products with 5% new content.
Too bad I am such a sucker for Momiji :/
man, now I wish they would have waited with the Vita version :/
I hope it has all or most of the DLC has some sort of connectivity with the Vita version of the game. Glad I waited on getting the console version.
Dead or Alive 5+++.
DOA 5 Ultimate
Momiji in a bikini! omg It’s happening!!
… Seriously, is there any point in buying fighting games on release nowadays? They always come up with “Extended Versions”
That’s pretty much how fighting and sports games work, it’s not changing anytime soon. DOA5 offered plenty on it’s original release so I’m not mad about a new version coming.
Because people simply accept it, is why it’s not changing anytime soon.
I bought the DOA5 special edition and personally felt ripped off by the lack of content. DOA5 was almost identical to DOA4, which was itself almost identical to DOA3…
So yeah, from now on I’m taking a wait-and-see approach to Tecmo games.
I also bought the special edition and even plus. But I’m done now. Gonna avoid Tecmo games altogether. Dlc pricing is overpriced as well, so even if they did it would be to expensive.
I agree the dlc is overpriced but it’s a bunch of costumes that I don’t care about personally.
Agreed. I am shocked and disappointed. They pulled a Capcom on us which really sucks because DOA5 felt lacking to me, especially compared to DOA2 and DOA4 which were amazing when they launched.
DOA5 is still far better then Soulcalibur V, which had zero content, except for cahracter creation.
Gotta disagree with this. If you boil it down to what’s most important (the actual combat, netcode and overall production values), SCV runs circles around DOA5.
Just because SCV lacked story-related content (it was there, it just wasn’t anything to write home about) doesn’t make it any less of a fighting game. Especially in the area that matters most: the combat.
I agree to disagree. The actual combat comes down to player’s preference. The combat in DOA5 was more satisfying for me then SCV, and I’m just taking a basic gameplay content in mind.
They’ve always done this….
… Oh yeah, I remember all those Street Fighter 2 version on the SNES.
but still what? fighting games have always done this.
And you don’t have any problems with that?
Especially nowadays when you can just make it DLC instead of a new release.
It just makes me not want to pick these kind of games on release
no, i dont have a problem with that. it’s not like they’re holding me up at gunpoint and forcing me to fork over money to purchase their games.
Well, it’s your money
Exactly, so why say something so redundant? Do you enjoy having the last word in? Are you upset I am capable of affording my hobbies?
Ok… What up with the attitude? All I said was “It’s your money, you can do whatever you want with it”, but this does bother me.
Not sure why I would be jealous of some random guy on the internet, but, like you said, I can’t afford all the games that I want, so, if I buy a certain game, what I expect is that my game will not be outdated some months later (I was mad when Capcom announced UMvsC3, because I’ve brought it on release… But heh, that was a lesson for me). Sure, there are complete versions of various games nowadays, but that extra stuff can be brought to the original release as DLC, so doesn’t bother me that much… But fighting games still suffer from that
Whats your point if they did it as DLC people would just bitch about it being dlc Capcom dd it with one of their updates and what happen bitch storm out the ass.
And people wouldn’t bitch if they release an updated edition?
They are going to cry about it anyway again what is your point? Welcome to the world of fighting games. As I said if they are spaced out it shouldn’t be an issue also the whole adding nothing new really does fall flat when it comes to games like this the best that happens is new game modes, a new character, balance and maybe a clean UI.
I know people whine about everything (I mean, I’m the one whining here). But all I want is that, if they decide to release an updated version, just let me buy a DLC for the game so I won’t need to pay US$40 ~ 50 (The average price for these re-releases if I’m correct) if I already have the original game
Here’s the problem with “DLC”. Yes, you can, but sometimes the way games are programmed, they’re not always able to add on more than what’s available. Honestly, I’d rather save my HDD’s space for other things than big DLC updates on my system.
At least take that to consideration.
Fair enough. Can’t say I like having those massive BF3 patches on my HD. But still, you would expect the developers to actually make the game compatible with these kinds of DLC’s for the future (Since they’re bound to receive updated versions)
If they can sell the DLC pack, and they want to release a complete editon along with it, it´s fine for me
Well I own DOA5 and DOA5+ and depending on how much this extended version adds, I will very likely purchase it, too. :D
I didn’t think about it before, but there are several versions of DOA games (mostly DOA2 though). With the exception of DOA4… all of them have had a slight update in some way shape or form (actually maybe 4 does in DOA Dimensions, but I haven’t played that)
It looks like I made the right choice with not buying TN games at launch… but that was a very recent decision. The last game I bought at launch for them was NGS2+. I haven’t gotten DOA5+ or NG3RE yet. I probably won’t get this at launch either, not because of being afraid of an updated port, more because of the quality of their games lately.
I definitely agree with your caution in light of TN’s failures with NG, but DOA5 was extremely polished all around. Even the Vita version maintains 60 fps, though it has to sacrifice a bit of graphical fidelity to do so.
The difference in how DOA and NG turned out when their development time would’ve overlapped just kinda baffles me.
I am a nitpicky since NG3. DOA5 was very polished, but something very similar happened to it just like NG3. It was released with many bugs/glitches. Although it would seem TN would do everything in their power to fix DOA’s problems, but not NG… I am also disappointed with TN’s lack of response to questions. Also The new TN’s idea of a challenge is too much… (if you’ve seen the challenges for vanilla NG3 you know what I mean).
They are getting better though, however for me TN games as a priority has dropped since then…
Understandable. It’s unfortunate that they even responded to NG and DOA’s issues differently. Not really feeling how they’ve been operating these last few years, but I can only hope that their recent restructuring into Ichigaya DevGru 1 and 2 has been for the better.
Believe it or not, but there’s a good number of people who like to stay competitive in their fighters. Not necessarily “I’m going to destroy everyone at EVO!”-competitive, but perhaps just “I don’t want to get online and be slaughtered”-competitive. Not much fun when you get a game to find you can’t even play it online to your comfort because everyone else has found exploits, glitches, or just plain practiced enough to wipe the floor with you every single time.
Or perhaps one just loves the series in question, or even the genre so much that they’re willing to support it multiple times.
Now, me personally, I’m not among that crowd, but asking why simply because we may not find it worth our while sounds a bit self-centered.
One could ask why we might buy any number of things at launch. All games go on sale, permanently drop in price, or some other such that would make waiting worth your while. Hell, we can go beyond games! Why see a movie in theaters? It’ll be a buck at Redbox in a few months. Why buy an album? Somebody will put it on YouTube or it’ll make its way to Spotify.
No sense in singling out one genre in one medium when similar logic can be applied to nigh anything else. Different strokes for different folks, no need to question them.
Very true. Fighting games alone aren’t the only ones that do this. Loads of other games come out with GOTY Editions or enhanced remakes. Movies come out with Director’s Cuts. Deluxe versions of CDs. I do personally think it is a little lame, but that is only because I can’t afford to constantly keep up with new editions, lol.
Yea, I don’t have the money to try and jump up every time something gets a new version so I try to fight myself back and wait lol. Goodness can that be tough sometimes.
1) Did that happen in any fighting game? Like, a glitch so bad, that people just kept spamming them online; and it forced the developer to release a new version of the game to fix it? The biggest offender I can think of is Marvel vs. Capcom 2, but even that it wasn’t that bad.
2) Well, fair enough. But I don’t think these people would be mad if they got only one definite version of the game instead of 2 versions.
3) But music piracy is illegal. If you really want to use it, go on, but just don’t use it in an argument. Siliconera rules are pretty clear about that. EDIT: Wait, it doesn’t say anything about that… But that still not a nice thing to do
And, sure, buying something on release will end up being more expensive than just waiting for a while for a price drop. But… Releasing an updated version, that renders the original “antiquated”, is a totally different thing
4) Fair enough. I was just stating my opinion
I don’t doubt they’d be happy if the game only had one version either, but if they’re willing to support multiple times, I figure the developer’s not wrong to use that opportunity. I don’t advocate selling a half-assed version of a game because they know their audience will buy into updates, but it makes sense business-wise.
Again, I agree with you and I’m not trying to shut you down for your opinion or anything, I just find it unfair to single out fighting games. We see Director’s Cuts, Anniversary Editions, collections, and more of movies; we see re-releases of albums with additional material, often multiple times. If people really found it problematic in gaming they’d wait it out, or they’d be more vocal in their criticism of such practices.
And I most certainly don’t advocate pirating music, film, or anything else for that matter.
Sure, I do agree with you. I’ve stopped buying AAA games on release nowadays I just decide to wait for their “Full editions” (And then I just don’t buy them at all… But that’s another story). There are certain games that I pick on release (Or even pick up an used copy) because of hype, but I normally just wait for their full versions.
But, my problem is that the copy of the originals are never really upgraded via DLC in these fighting games, like Capcom games. Sure, I’m not really into these games, so I wouldn’t know if Tecmo upgrade their games via DLC, but they didn’t really upgraded original Ninja Gaiden 3 to Razor’s Edge via DLC, did they? This might share the same fate
Yea, I usually go by the developer/publisher/genre’s track record when deciding if I’ll pick something up at launch unless I get some kind of deal.
For instance, I pre-ordered Arkham City despite Arkham Asylum having a GOTY version. Why? Because the Catwoman content came with all new copies, the Best Buy pre-order included the Robin DLC, and the only other DLC was Nightwing and some costumes and I didn’t care about the costumes. I only buy used when I don’t have other choices though. I usually wait til Amazon has one of their (frequent) sales, unless it’s a game that I’m actively looking not to support like COD.
As for originals being upgraded, it varies. Capcom didn’t upgrade SFIV to SSFIV with DLC, though that was still at a point when devs were trying to figure out how exactly to work out DLC. When SSFIVAE came out, it was available as DLC for SSFIV. With RE5, the Gold Edition content was also available as DLC, I believe. On the other hand, MVC3 didn’t get the UMVC3 content as DLC, though I seem to recall somebody at Capcom saying that had something to do with the Tohoku earthquakes that had happened around that time.
In the case of Team Ninja’s record, NG3′s problems went beyond what they could’ve fixed with a patch or DLC since the game had fundamental design flaws. The most they could’ve given vanilla players was the new characters’ content and maybe some rebalancing, but there were other issues to be had. So it’s hard to say if this will be DLC or not, since DOA5 is certainly capable of being added to since it doesn’t have any NG3-level flaws.
Oh yeah, pre-order bonuses are always nice. Love opening those NISA/Atlus games and seeing that Soundtrack disc with them. They always get a pre-order from me
RE5 Gold Edition Move Support is exclusive to the version, so it does have exclusive content.
And, seriously, one philosopher once said “Nothing is so broken it can’t be fixed with super-glue”. I mean, let’s pick up “The ballad of Gay Tony” DLC for GTA IV. Not that the game was broken, but it just changed so much about that game, that it really makes you wonder about the true potencial of DLC’s. But I can be wrong, so I dunno…
Gotta love physical pre-order bonuses. That’s something I miss from the PS2 era, though more often than not they didn’t end up being anything good anyway. Soundtracks = good, cheap plastic toys = bad.
GTA4′s DLC is definitely one of the better examples for the potential in DLC. The Lost and the Damned and Gay Tony added a good deal to the original experience. Really, the same can be said of RDR’s DLC. So it seems like Rockstar’s just one of the few to get a good handle on it this gen.
Hopefully more figure out how to deliver DLC that’s worthwhile since the concept won’t be going away.
I don’t mind when a game drops in price. I just think “huh, thats the price now?”
But it’s kinda irratating when they release a new version that (like DesmaX said) renders the original inadequate *cough*worthless.
No one’s putting a gun to your head to buy it, but it’s still kinda insulting.
I honestly don’t know if i should get DOA5+(which i was going to) or just wait for this.
I’d say wait it out and see how much content this adds and whether you care for it more than you do portability. DOA5+ already has a good deal of content is you go that route.
Even when I buy into a game day 1 and see an updated version released later, I don’t let it bother me. Part of that is that I always keep the possibility of it happening in mind, and part of it is that I don’t care so long as I feel like I got my money’s worth. What I got for what I spent is more important to me than the thought of what I could’ve got if I waited, unless it’s like a NG3 –> NG3RE situation.
Interesting. How do you feel about the Dragon’s Dogma expansion Dark Arisen? Im feeling kinda jipped from Capcom, and not sure if i should buy it.
It really doesn’t(didn’t) seem like the type of game to do that.
Luckily for me, I didn’t buy vanilla DD. I was low on funds, so I was forced to wait — and the wait paid off! Haha.
Exactly. For people who havn’t bought vanilla DD it’s totally worth it. From my point of view, it’s a total. “son of a bitch!” moment.
Whatever il just wait till one of my friends cave and borrow it. xD
That’s a good system lol. Alternately, since it’s only $40, you could trade your vanilla copy towards it and see how much you get. Maybe you’ll get lucky and Gamestop or wherever will have some kind of deal in place.
I feel ya. I personally don’t get why they can’t add the new characters or “re-balancing” as DLC or a Patch instead of a new $50 dollar game… But whatevs… If this is an entirely new project, I hope it adds a lot more.
I don’t mind sequels to anything. I just hope there’s enough new content to warrant a second purchase.
Again if they are spaced out and not released less then a year its fine. So I don’t see whats the point n complaining about it.
I get where your coming from. It’s one thing to release addional stuff as DLC.
but to re-release the entire game after you freakin buy it day one is just insulting. It makes you wonder why you bought the original in the first place since this is gonna be the original and MORE.
They never said it was FIGHTING game in development. We’ve not had any Volleyball since the PSP one.
It’s always been like this……..
It was the same thing back in the SNES, Genesis, Saturn and PS1 eras.
I know right? I’ve wanted to play this for quite a long time but held off since I knew this had to be coming.
If this includes all the dlc and even more, I’ll pat my own back for the decision.
Why is there a Wii U tag on this even though there’s no indication that it will be on that platform?
… ohhhhhoho~ I almost wet my pants.
… it’s finally time for Momiji to enter the fray… and i’m choosing to blindly believe in this no matter what at this point. XD
Super Dead or Alive + Now with more costumes and characters on disc that you need to buy in order to use
because everyone has the internet.
You bet they do! :D
There has been no proof that other fighting games have their costumes on their disc besides capcom street fighter series.
Just a joke dude -_- no need to throw banana’s at me
Needs more volleyball~
T-that’s okay… It’s not like I wanted it on WiiU anyway… Whatever, man.
good thing i didn’t buy that dlc i wanted last night -_-
Perfect. Good thing I waited this out.
Only fighting series that don’t really fall into the whole “new version [length of time] later” are Tekken and Soul Calibur. I don’t know why people still get upset like this is new. Vote with your wallet.
Now that you mention it. I’ve never seen an upgraded version of Soul Calibur or Tekken…
Tekken 5 had Dark Resurrection on PSP, and the Tekken 6 that was released on consoles was really Bloodline Rebellion, which was an upgrade of the arcade release.
Namco still has a pretty solid arcade market with Tekken, so the game is usually played and balanced extensively in Japanese arcades before they reach the states. The version we get is the final version once the game has had at least a year or so in the arcades.
Everyone who wasted their money on all that DLC has gotta be feeling salty now. I don’t feel any sympathy :)
Who said they wasted their money? You probably still have to buy all the DLC. Either way I’m glad we don’t have your sympathy and we don’t want it either :).
There is a good chance that the DLC from the base game will be compatible with this newer version. As long as the graphics and character models aren’t changed, and just game play mechanics and new characters, they should be fine.
Either a new character for DOA5 or DOA5 Extreme~
Momiji… she appeared in the Ninja Gaiden series and both DOA and Ninja Gaiden take place in the same universe.
But this is Momiji’s first time becoming a playable character in the DOA series.
Wow! I was wondering when they were going to include Momiji into the DOA series, though sadly I don’t know much about her aside from the fact she appeared in the Ninja Gaiden series and is a priestess of sorts.
I wonder how she will fight in this new DOA5 project.
Dead or Alive 5:Momiji’s Ass Edition
Hayashi-san!! My very best friend!! Always good to see him.
Is Lisa going to have a playable part in the story mode this time around? I can’t wait for the official details.
Meh I’ll pass. DOA 5 just had to many negatives to warrant a second purchase imo.
And that`s why I don`t buy games Day 1, except the games that I`m sure that they will not have a GOTY kind of version, I learned my lesson with MGS HD Collection (but it`s MGS so I forgive you Kojima!), but I was aware of the NG3 extended version, so we keep learning!, to predict which games will be GOTYs (and that`s something sad to say, I have to admit)
Well not buying games day 1 means that there wouldn’t be another game. If we all shared you attitude because they make no money to make another one. I’m glad I bought DOA5 day 1 because its a good game so I don’t mind an expansion because I’m still happy with the game I got.
You know? you´re confused, but that´s understandable, let me explain it to you, in today´s videogame´s industry standards that´s the trend that big companies follow, batman, uncharted, Resident Evil, etc, in fighting games it´s worst.
If you´re refering to games like Atelier ayesha (an rpg, from tecmo Koei too) or skull girls (another fighting game), I would agree with you, BUT we´re talking about DOA, that logic doesn´t apply to DOA, a AAA Fighting game (very well known game), like Street Fighter (you know about the Super and Arcade Edtion?) or MvsC3 from capcom, Mortal Kombat (Komplete Collection sounds familiar?) or Blaz Blue (. . .), you can´t compare games like ayesha, skull girls or Yakuza, games that are very good, to very well known games like those.
So the “if we all shared youR attitude because they make no money to make another one” part only applies to people who like to buy everything Day 1,and that´s OKAY if that´s what you want, but you need to think in the people who bought the game day 1 and now feel annoyed (not angry, it´s not that important) with the new version, and people like me, who can see the trend, it´s not the same, DOA doesn´t belong to that category, because it´s a very well known game after all.
I like the DOA games, since the psx version,so for me it´s not about support or not to support, but in the end, DOA (Like NG3) have enter in the Komplete version club too, do you remember the Street fighter x tekken extra characters on disk fiasco?, it was a fiasco, do you remember the tekken tag 2 extras fiasco? . . . . OH THAT´S RIGHT, that didn´t happen, because not all fighting games try to DLC you extras that the game by default should have already.
If you can´t see the trend, maybe it´s not because you can´t, but because you don´t want to, or you don´t care, but at least you have to acknowledge that exists, and only us can change that, with our money.
Umm this means Momiji on DOA, Please Tecmo I want to see her in a bikini.
Do we know for sure if this is a new game or just a “complete edition” re-release? Everyone else seems pretty certain its the latter though.
I for one am excited to get new content for my favorite game of last year in any way I can take it.
I hope they announce it for Vita…please.
I just want to see more interactive stages!! Compared to previous games, the stages in doa5 are incredibly dull. Heck, 4 are near identical. The cliffhanger idea was cool but that was about it.
wow. finally momiji’s brought into DOA!
Why don’t they just make another Dead or Alive Xtreme ? That can give us some fresh air
I bought DOA 2 twice, so why the fudge not
Dead Or Alive 5 Plus Sigma Komplete Alpha Max Ultimate
Dead or Alive 5:Prepare to die edition…
Hmm from some reason i really miss monster rancher game…
I wonder for those who buy all DLC and special edition felt after hearing this…
As players keep playing their games, devs will naturally want to update them; this is how fighting games have always been, and no it’s not just capcom, it’s literally every single fighting game dev because it makes sense.
DOA Volleyball 3 come to me!
Can we get another DOA Extreme Plz
kind of hurts to re-purchase the whole thing :( Momiji DLC please!
good thing i waited to purchase DoA5 at a later date.
Wow, good thing I haven’t bought DoA5 yet.
(Xtreme 3 pls)
Welcome to Dead or Alive! Please enjoy your stay.
Those young men sure were getting excited about a digital girl…
You know what would be cool? If this was in fact an action spin-off, or maybe “DOA crossing over into the NG-verse” and all the DOA people will be fighting demons. THAT would be a neat way to subvert expectations.
I’ve had it.
Is this what they meant when they said they wouldn’t release a character as DLC?
Cant believe I bought this at launch.
IT lacked content and the online was sub par.
Could’ve bought DMC instead. Terrible buyers remorse right now.
Who knows, might be a possible patch update lik SF4:AE was.
Almost bought DOA 5+ because I thought it may be the ultimate version and really had no new game for vita.
Saved, I guess?
It will depend on how they manage this.
If this is an upgrade like “Super SSFIV Arcade Edition”, where you could just buy the new characters and balance changes through DLC at a reasonable price, that will be cool.
But if they sell it as a new entry at retail prices… for the sake of civilized conversation, I won’t finish that sentence.
DOA5 plus Xtreme Gaiden
Read about this on ANN, so this is Tecmo’s DOA version of Super Street Fighter IV (as in new content and new character), right??
Id be happier with Leon.
Quotes the poor
I think we can stop now. Points have been made, thoughts shared — let’s keep it from going personal all around.
Quotes the guy who buys everything, and likes to rant with random people, and it´s fine with the trend, if you think that the people here are arguing about that, you need to read more carefully
Why am I being told this?
Only one in this thread moved things to rudeness and name calling. Something we do ask the community to avoid in discussions.
I’m called a fool yet only my comment (which was in reply to a question asked by desmax) gets deleted?