Sony Announce Hardware Sales Forecast For The Year Ahead

By Ishaan . May 9, 2013 . 1:12am

Sony released their financials today, providing sales figures of their videogame hardware. Combined, the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 2 sold 16.5 million units during the company’s fiscal year ended March 31st, 2013.

 

Sony forecast that they would sell 16 million units of the two devices, meaning that they’ve exceeded their goal slightly.

 

Meanwhile, the PSP and PlayStation Vita combined sold 7 million units during the fiscal year, meeting Sony’s revised goals for those devices as well. Sony revised their PSP/Vita forecast thrice, down from the initial 16 million to 7 million.

 

However, for the fiscal year ahead, Sony estimate they will sell a mere 5 million units of Vita and PSP combined, worldwide, by March 2014. Meanwhile, PlayStation 3 is expected to sell 10 million units during the same period. Sony did not provide a forecast for the PlayStation 4.

 


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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Kevassa02 kevassa

    That’s a really depressing forecast for the Vita : (

    • Kevadu

      Well it’s doing better than the Wii U at least…

      • Herok♞

        Not really when you consider its later in its life then WiiU(Vita = Dec 11, WiiU = Nov 12) and if you look at the Japanese sales for both( 1,558,785 for Vita and 909,247 for WiiU), WiiU is doing a lot better earlier in its life and this is before the ton of stuff Nintendo has planned for it, with Vita I don’t even know where Sony is going with it later in the year.

        • AyaisMUsikWhore

          It’s still going to be around. The Vita was made to be a companion to the PS4. It’s not dropping anytime soon as they said. I think people just need to lay off the doom and gloom and really start reading the stuff that’s important. Just like Nintendo, Sony knows what it’s doing

          • Solomon_Kano

            The problem is, unlike Nintendo, Sony isn’t giving us any indication that they know what they’re doing. Or, rather, it would be better said that they haven’t given any indication that they’re doing anything at all.

            Nintendo’s come right out and acknowledged what’s ailing the Wii U and given us some bullet points as to what they’ll do to save it, with the finer points coming around E3. Sony, on the other hand, is being deathly quiet. The doom and gloom will persist until something is done to inspire confidence.

            Nintendo is being very deliberate about how they plan to get the Wii U going and they’ve maintained a certain level of transparency. I don’t ask that Sony do the same, but they do need to show some kind of indication that they’ve a plan to turn turn things around. They’re seeing improvement, that’s good, but the future still doesn’t look bright. The Vita lacks those points on the horizon that Nintendo’s provided to show that they know what they’re doing.

            Still, it’s early days. They’ve got E3, Gamescom, TGS and much more to show what plans they may have.

          • AyaisMUsikWhore

            Sony did the exact thing. There’s articles with them talking about bullet points. They’ve mentioned software, hardware, pricing, marketing.. All of that. They’ve even admitted the Vita isn’t selling up to plan but they do have plans for it. They even acknowledge what presences the Vita is going to have with the PS4. These things don’t get highlighted enough. People say Sony isn’t supporting the Vita, yet almost every game announce is a cross play with the Vita. They dropped the Mobile sdk fee, they are giving developers both ps3,PS4 and Vita dev kits. They still have major announcements for the Vita still to come. I wish I could link the articles with all these sayings but I’m using my smartphone to text this lol. Sony isn’t slouching either. They know the position they are in. They are supporting it. Week after week I’m hearing game announcements for it, but I believe people are more interested in hearing a price drop. I’ve accepted that it will eventually come but the games are getting consistent. Even despite the fact that they are playable on the ps3, anyone will tell you the Vita experience beats it 2:1. Sony has its plan set…. Just like Nintendo

            Edit : Please tell me Siliconera is not the only blog you read

          • Solomon_Kano

            Not sure what my choice in blogs has to do with the discussion at hand, but no, I don’t only read Siliconera.

            I follow Vita news rather closely and not once have I seen them bring up the Vita’s marketing moving forward. Their talk on pricing was Jack Tretton saying that they’ve nothing to say about a price drop at this time, and there isn’t really anything to be said about the hardware. Talking about the hardware isn’t really doing anything. They talked about the Vita alongside the PS4 in the space of Remote Play, but where else? Telling us a bunch of PS3 games have Vita versions isn’t exactly the best support,, nor is telling us that games we can play on PS4 will be playable on Vita once you’ve got them on PS4. Most of the Wii U’s games have PS3 versions as well, and that’s to its detriment.

            Yes, there are many games being announced for Vita, more than before, but the vast majority of them are multiplatform titles. Multiplatform titles would be nice if the Vita were a console, but that’s not what the Vita needs. The quality of that experience is to be determined by the user, but whether one enjoys a game more on Vita or no, if it’s available elsewhere, it’s available elsewhere.

            I’ve not seen Sony give us a list of future games, release date undetermined or no, for the future as January’s Wii U Direct did. What do we know is coming to Vita beyond Tearaway? That, in October, is the furthest out title currently announced for Vita. Every other known Vita title is either an indie game whose date is unknown or is a larger title that will be out before Tearaway.

            There are no bullet points for the Vita’s future beyond the fact that it apparently will be very good for Remote Play on PS4. So, no, I wouldn’t say that Sony’s done the exact thing as Nintendo has.

          • AyaisMUsikWhore

            “I’ve not seen Sony give us a list of future games, release date undetermined or no, for the future ”

            ” Every other known Vita title is either an indie game whose date is unknown or is a larger title that will be out before Tearaway.”

            Isn’t that the same thing. They have announced what we know. How is that any different than Nintendo? Sony doesn’t have a Sony direct to discuss those things but they do talk in interviews and big events. How can we keep them accountable for that. I’m sure all those games Nintendo talked about we didn’t know before so why was that not accountable. I mean I don’t disagree with you but I see it more or less Sony and Nintendo is on the same page. What we know about the Vita is just the same we know about the Wii U. They announce things when they want to. I wish I had the links to these actual sayings. Yoshida pretty much talks for Sony and there’s hundreds of articles of him explaining these things. He’s come out and talked about the Vita performance. He’s come out and talked about the Software presence, the difficulty in getting Devs to make games for it and what they are trying to do moving forward with making that a reality.

          • Solomon_Kano

            They don’t need to emulate Nintendo’s Directs to give us some long-term idea of what’s in store for Vita, the PS Blog would be a fine place to give out that info. And that’s the difference — long-term.

            Everything we know about the Vita ends this October. Meanwhile on Wii U, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., a new Zelda, a 3D Mario, Monolith’s new game, and SMTxFE have all been outright announced as coming down the line with Retro’s new game being hinted for a reveal in the near future. These are titles we can expect beyond this year in addition to the games with and without finalized release dates beyond “2013″. Everything on Vita is scheduled for “2013″. That’s not long-term.

            I see the things Yoshida says, but Yoshida’s answers are often “I can’t say” or “we’re working on that”. I understand that there’s a time and place for everything, and I don’t blame him for that, but that leaves Sony telling and not showing. That’s the difference right now. For everything Nintendo’s told, they’ve shown another. Zelda U isn’t ready? Here’s Wind Walker HD. Can’t show our new Mario game? Here’s some DLC for NSMB2 while you wait. Bayonetta 2′s still a ways away? Check out Kamiya’s The Wonderful 101.

            In show and tell you have to do both, not pick one. Nintendo very much realizes that. If Sony does, well, they aren’t, uh, showing it.

          • ronin4life

            Then there is the stuff that nobody is showing.
            Nintendo has always loved to keep tight lips, yet they have showed off so much… it makes you wonder what else they have waiting. Plus, we also know that this year can be more wiiu focused than before in terms of software support since the launch is out of the way and 3ds is rolling.

            As for Vita… well, Sony seems focused on PS4 more than anything. This is just an assumption of mine, but I have always felt that what a company has hidden is always proportionat to what they have shown, and Sony isn’t showing much.

            And even though these are all guesses based on precedence and murmurs, I think they go hand in hand with actual presentations; you can always tie these things together with different behaviors, trends, and statements to make more sense out of the rumors or the knowns, and I’m sure most companies know this as well.

          • Solomon_Kano

            I can’t really agree with that. Before January’s Direct, that would’ve led us to believe that there was absolutely nothing happening for Wii U, because there was nothing being shown. There’s always going to be a point where there’s nothing being shown, so it being proportionate to what’s not being shown doesn’t exactly work.

            I don’t believe Sony has much planned for Vita myself, but that reasoning doesn’t work for me.

          • ronin4life

            Well, the proportion is different per company in my theory. Sony doesn’t keep secrets very well… by accident or design, what I have seen from Sony in recent years what you see is what you get.

            Nintendo meanwhile is historically a pretty secretive company. They love their NDAs and surprises. Yet this explosion of info occured on an otherwise eventless January day. This tells me 1 of three things;
            They have a lot to show us still and are confident in what they have in store(least likely), they were feeling heavy pressure and acted out of character to impress, or what I think is the most likely is a combination of both: they were confident they could show enoughto look good while holdinga few cards to their chests. I think this is the most likely because they only mentioned Mario and we have no idea what retro is up to.

            (I also want to point out they did have Bayonetta, Pikmin, W101 and several 3ds titles at this time, so they didn’t have “nothing”)

            I think further proof of these characteristics besides precedence is in the 3ds. Every ND has seen least 1 new game announcement,usually more. We keep thinking they have showedus all they have, something new pops up. Its like a magic trick… but instead of bunnies, we get games.

          • Solomon_Kano

            I’d agree that the 3rd scenario is most likely. Should be interesting to see what they felt was worth holding onto after the crazy stuff they felt like showing.

            I was talking Wii U alone, so Bayo 2, Pikmin, and W101 weren’t literally nothing, but if we were to expect the equivalent that wouldn’t have been much is what I’m saying.

          • Aristides

            I think Sony just needs to start marketing the Vita as a standalone device rather than an extension of the PS3 X_X I think it’s nice to have cross-buy,cross-pay and cross-save but… all they talk about is how you can take your gaming experiences on the go when you cant play them in your living room… From the looks of it it’s gonna be the exact same thing with the PS4 with the remote play and streaming services they’ve hinted…

            The Vita is a solid stand-alone device, it shouldn’t be treated as an ad-on… I have no PS3(it broke sooooome time ago) and I do pretty much all my gaming on my Vita. It’s got lots to play (just got my second 32GB) but I think it really needs an image boost and more exclusive titles that take advantage of the system…

          • Solomon_Kano

            That last bit is key. Until the Vita has the software to stand out on its own, it looks like we’ll have to settle for it being marketed as an add-on. Thing is, it’ll be harder to secure that content if it’s simply made to look like an add-on. It’s a catch-22.

            I think it’s probably going to be a bit before Sony figures out exactly how they want to market the Vita, but at least its position is improving. As its install base grows, we should see the exclusive software grow along with it.

          • Trepie

            I agree and disagree. If they don’t plan on the Vita being a huge part of the PS3/PS4 experience, then marketing it that way definitely has to stop. But on the other hand, the only reason I -don’t- have a Vita currently is because it has a whole lot less functionality with the PS3 than I was expecting. So I’d be all for marketing it as an extension if they actually use it that way. And that would probably win me over as well.

          • Herok♞

            Don’t worrry I wasn’t saying it was going to fail, I was just pointing out the flaws in Kevadu’s arguement.

    • SiliconNooB

      It’s not really any different than the previous year – the downwards revisions likely come from the declining sales of the PSP.

      • Skyer Ist

        Originally Sony wanted to sell 10 mln. of Vita alone in FY13, lol. And 6 mln. of PSP’s. Than slashed the number to 12 million, and then again to 10 and 7… In the end PSV+PSP shipped just 7 mln. combined.

  • Krisi92

    How cute.

  • neocatzon

    Oh, Sony. Push Vita please, it’s a good little machine. Don’t make it a waste.

    • Kevadu

      It’s kind of baffling that they haven’t cut the price in the US yet. I know that back when they cut the price in Japan they gave the excuse that Japan was always paying more because of the exchange rate…but with the way the yen has been weakening lately that’s not even close to true anymore. We’re actually basically back to 100 yen ~ 1 dollar parity…so why does the system cost $50 more in the US?

      • Tom

        Yeah, a price cut and a white version would be nice in EU :)

      • Solomon_Kano

        They likely haven’t cut the price yet because there’s no software to accompany it. I expect we’ll hear a price cut announcement by Gamescom. That’d be nearer the release of Killzone: Mercenary which is the highest profile release on Vita for the year.

      • Brion Valkerion

        Im expecting a cut by e3, but the real problem imo is those damn memory cards. Let alone for w/e reason it does not have internal memory like, oh every device on the planet, but those things costing about what $2.50~3.00 per gig on those things and no third party support of them so we would HAVE to buy them… if it was still 1995 sure, but that don’t fly in 2013 Sony.

        I’d seriously buy the device today for $250 no questions asked if the needed accessories were not a kick in the pants.

      • Skyer Ist

        If they’re expecting just 5 million ww this year… I don’t think they plan to make a price-cut in US and EU in FY14.

  • malek86

    Uhm. As PSP sales go down even further, a drop in total shipments was expected… but that means they don’t think higher PSV sales will be able to offset the PSP’s drop. It’s worrying.

    • XYZ_JolteonZ980

      It is? Could they really support and focus on both PSV and PS4 in the coming forecast year?

      • malek86

        I’m pretty sure they could, if they tried. Actually they would do well to try and push the PSV now that the PS4 is coming out, since I imagine that they will be integrated together in many features.

  • Chris Yuen

    I’m a Vita owner. I just need them to push out games that can excite me and make me want to buy them (and to make would-be buyers excited enough to buy the system for them). Currently I’m waiting for Dragon’s Crown and the supposed Trails game in Sept but until then, to be honest..my Vita is kind of collecting dust. Till today Persona 4 Golden has been the only game that I really enjoyed on the Vita, while a couple other games have given me nothing but cognitive dissonance for purchasing them. I get immense satisfaction from showing off Persona 4 Golden gameplay while taking the public transport, but I can’t always keep playing the same game with over 180 hours clocked on it! Kind of fed up with the drought, so I purchased a 3DS for Fire Emblem Awakening, SMTIV and Project X Zone (and Bravely Default in the future). Hopefully both can keep pushing out titles that will whet my appetite.

    • Peeka Chu

      Soul Sacrifice is certainly worth checking out. If you’re averse to gore, its really not as bad as you might think (just don’t do any black rites).

      • Chris Yuen

        Yea, I heard about it but I’m still a bit wary since I wasn’t exactly impressed by Ragnarok Odyssey…however I admit that it might be that I’m not too used to the Monster Hunting genre of games…at the same time..keeping an eye on my spending though…Tales of Xilla, GTA 5, The Last of Us are currently still higher on my “want to get” list. Thanks for the suggestion though.

      • Skyer Ist

        Soul Sacrifice bombed like a rock in Europe. Debuted at #26 on weekly UK Chart.

    • neocatzon

      They really need to spit out more first party titles to get attention from other devs.. Gravity Rush and Soul Sacrifice is interesting, but we need more. Their other non-japan titles are either not exclusive or just uninteresting enough.

    • Brimfyre

      Actually you just convinced me to ask for a 3DS XL instead of a Vita for my Birthday. lol I already have a 3DS.

      Not that I would get anything like that, but it doesn’t hurt to ask.

  • Peeka Chu

    How do we know that they aren’t planning to just extend the “Vita” line onto tablets (w/ controller hybrid) or the like? That would seem the obvious leap, as its made of mobile parts, and I bet it will happen if traditional handheld hardware sales continue to lag for them. Someone is going to make that gaming-centric Razor like device that isn’t $1000. I’d like to think Nintendo might, but they’re far too slow on the technology curve to do a decent job at it. And its not like Sony have ever just thrown in the towel on a system (PSP Go, was an “iteration” of the PSP, not a system itself). And its too early too say what their Vita plans are until E3/ Gamescom/ TGS come to pass. If the Vita forcast for 2014 is even lower, then yeah, I think its safe to see clouds on the horizon.

    I love how Ishaan has posted every single one of these:

    http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/06/sony-lower-playstation-vita-sales-forecast-a-third-time/

    http://www.siliconera.com/2012/11/01/sony-lower-sales-forecast-for-playstation-vita-and-psp/

    http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/02/sony-post-q1-loss-lower-playstation-vita-and-psp-sales-forecast/

    I’m sure its just a coincidence. Its probably also worth mentioning that Sony returned to the black for the first time in 5 years, but this article doesn’t mention that.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Not a coincidence. Ishaan’s pretty much the only one who does any sales-related articles. Be that weekly sales, sales forecasts, sell-through, or what have you.

    • ronin4life

      Returned to the black… you know the majority of that black ink was payed for with their own Headquaters in NY and Japan.

      You can only sell your house once.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      This is a website about games. Sony’s games division reported deteriorating operating income for the year, with low PlayStation sales—Vita and PSP in particular—cited as the culprit.

      I don’t think there’s anything good to say when a company reports a “deteriorated” OI in their games division. The report also mentions that their game division profits will be flat for the ongoing year as well, due to marketing and R&D expenses for PlayStation 4.

      You really ought to read these reports more carefully if you intend to join the discussion from the finance angle. Their PlayStation business is still part of the problem.

      You’ve been going on and on about this crazy Vita tablet theory of yours for the last year, too. It’s not happening. Their smartphone business is actually successful. They aren’t going to risk screwing it over in order to save a single failed device.

  • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

    More quality software, lower hardware price, lower memory card prices, higher capacity memory cards, more marketing.

    I know that’s oversimplifying things for the Vita a bit, but it seems like a rather easy plan to me.

    • Solomon_Kano

      The thing is, Sony can’t guarantee that big one out front — quality software. The Vita gets what it gets, quality or otherwise. What it really needs is for software to be released more consistently, and that’s going to take the support of more publisbers, and that’s going to take… well, faith. Because numerically, there’s no logical reason for anybody to commit to the Vita over the 3DS. That’s the sad truth.

      So Sony’s either gotta pony up for more exclusive content for the Vita or pray that the umpteenth God of War, Gran Turismo, or Killzone can give it a shot in the arm.

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        You’re right. I should have just left it at “more software”. A consistent release of titles would be beneficial, and they seem to be making good strides with indies. But they are lacking on that AAA front. But this was the same problem that the PSP was going through when if first came out. But you’re right, they need more developers and publishers to jump on board, and soon.

        (Though, personally, I don’t want another GoW on the Vita, even though CoO and, especially, GoS were great games. A new action IP should be used imo. I can’t keep playing Ninja Gaiden that I’ve played already on PS3.)

        • Solomon_Kano

          I’d actually say the indies give the Vita an edge the PSP didn’t get until the Minis came about, but even that initiative wasn’t as big as it could’ve been. Lovely as this indie support is though, it’s as you say, the system needs more AAA.

          I’m in agreement on God of War. I used it to say one of Sony’s own IP will likely need to pave the way, but I do so hope we don’t see GoW on Vita. Especially since it won’t be from Ready at Dawn if we do, as they’ve been toiling away on a AAA console action title for a few years now.

      • michel

        No, Salomon, I don’t agree. Pehaps, you can say “the Atari VCS 2600 got what it got”, but nowadays it’s different. Both first party software and third party software quality is also influenced by the commitment of the platform company. This support can be financial, technical, or both. Sony could have made Monster Hunter 4 or Final Fantasy Type-0 or a good Call of Duty game to come out for the Vita. But it didn’t.

        • Solomon_Kano

          I suppose they could have, but the fact that they didn’t is the point. They aren’t acting as quality control for each title that comes to the system. The Vita will see games good, bad, and mediocre. All systems do. Sony can’t determine that all software that makes it to the system will be quality. The games they publish and develop, certainly, but everyone else’s? No.

  • Herok♞

    I will be blunt, Vita needs more original games and more exclusive ones now, since at this point in time the only games that really help the Vita’s case are Gravity Rush(but that’s really short), Ragnarok Odyssey(A hunting game) and Soul Sacrifice (hunting game). I am going by America alone where these are the only exclusives around(I am excluding ports/remakes/rereleases like P4G and Muramasa since you can play them outside of Vita even if they have a few differences), its nice most of the stuff is cross play/buy but that doesn’t help much because most people who would buy Vita already on a PS3. Right now I have more psone games on the Vita then I do actual vita games and I don’t think I payed $300 for a portable psone.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Eh, original games are important, but they aren’t what sold the PSP, DS, or 3DS. High profile titles sell systems, originality isn’t a prerequisite. As consumers we should hope for original titles, but the reality is that these systems are sold by the names. The Monster Hunters, the Final Fantasies, the Grand Theft Autos, the Marios, the Resident Evils. The Bravely Defaults, the Gravity Rushes, the Xenoblades? They help, but they help in the presence of those bigger names.

      Perhaps more than original titles or series, what helps is having consistent releases of software. That’s what the 3DS has that the Vita lacks, what the PS3 and 360 have over the Wii U. There is no one thing, all 3 are important, but it’s certainly not the original titles that are finding their way into bundles and selling out. It’s the names.

      • ronin4life

        I think you are confusing “original entries” with “original series”. He means the Vita has far too few Only on PS Vita games.

        The DS, PSP, 3DS and PS3 all had a plethora of exclusive content from a multitude of series… the psV hasn’t had as much luck there.

        • Solomon_Kano

          Which is what I’m saying: these systems are largely sold by those “original entries” rather than “original series”.

          He’s saying that the Vita needs more original games that, per his examples, aren’t part of existing series. If that’s not what he’s saying, those 3 games certainly aren’t the only Vita-exclusive titles around.

          • puchinri

            I don’t think it’s the existing series part so much as the port part. ToHR is one of the titles that kinda sorta sells me on a Vita, but it is also a port/remake, so I kind of see his point. However, having a Tales title of its own would be a different story because it’d be an original Tales title (rather than an already existing one).

          • Solomon_Kano

            Again, if he’s not excluding original titles in existing series, then there are certainly more than the 3 titles he’s named.

          • puchinri

            I don’t doubt it, although it does sound like we have quite a few titles less than Japan does, which also doesn’t help much here.

          • Herok♞

            I named those 3 because they are brand new series which can only be found on Vita(I know RO is based on something thing else but I treat them different in the same sense that Persona and SMT are different.)

          • Solomon_Kano

            Which is what I thought you were saying. So that takes us back to my original response then.

          • Herok♞

            Well I can understand that but Original games would be what puts a system ahead in the long run, like say when VLR was released someone wanted to play it so bad they had to buy a brand new handheld, they would have to choice between Vita and 3DS, the original games are what would set the systems apart at that point.

          • Solomon_Kano

            They’ll make the difference when someone’s choosing between the two, sure, but they aren’t the titles systems are primarily sold by is what I’m saying. I’m not saying original titles are unimportant or anything, but they aren’t the primary driver of sales.

            Also, by your example it would be the exclusive games that set systems apart, not the neceesarily the original games.

          • Herok♞

            True, but in the sense right now exclusive games aren’t all truly exclusive like P4G it is also a ps2 game just without some of the stuff and changes.

  • Guest

    how companies would make games for the vita.
    First make the game and release it on the ps vita. both your game and sony vita sales would go up.
    Example.
    Monster hunter on ps vita!
    Damn companies are stupid these days.
    Konami and other companies are like the only ones with functional brains.

    • Luna Kazemaru

      I don’t get what you all don’t understand that monster hunter on the vita will not happen.

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        I’m still certain it will show up at some point, but not for a while or until whatever deal they have with Nintendo runs out. I think they’re avoiding the Vita for now just until they see sales go higher on a consistent basis.

        • $29082171

          I don’t know where did people get that ”they have an exclusivity deal with Nintendo” rumour from, I mean, Capcom has released P3rd HD (PS3), that one MH on iOS and recently announced MHO for PC.

          • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

            Hmmm… point taken. But they have recently been showing Nintendo a bit of love so I’m guessing that’s where/why people are getting the rumor from.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Except companies don’t care about Vita sales. It’s Sony’s job to sell the Vita, not theirs.

      • coax

        I wouldn’t say they don’t care, it’s a factor when deciding whether or not to develop for the platform.

        • Solomon_Kano

          Very true.

  • Solomon_Kano

    That tells me that they don’t have much on the cards for the Vita in the coming year. Well, that or they’re being rather conservative after last fiscal year’s drastic downward revision. It’s better to expect less and receive more, I suppose.

    • gold163

      Of course they don’t have much on the cards for the Vita. Those cost too much.

      … Wait, we’re talking about memory cards right?

  • Romangelo

    where’s the new Vita with HDMI output? it’s the only reason to make me buy one.

    • Anime10121

      Hoping they put that patent to use too. Already made the mistake of buying a 3DS before its revision (the XL) came out. I would greatly appreciate the bigness of tv-out. Hopeful the slow sales haven’t nixed plans for a revision. If they havent announced one by TGS this year, I’ll assume that its not happening :(

    • ronin4life

      HDMI support was most likely intentionally left out to build up ps3 crossplay/remote play.

      • Solomon_Kano

        And, if that was the case, their touting of the Vita being compatible with nearly all PS4 games for Remote Play likely means they’ll never add HDMI.

      • Romangelo

        Why do I want to remote play PS3 Minis on smaller screen? I want to play Vita & PSP games on my HDTV.

        • ronin4life

          And many of those PSV games can be bought on Ps3… for $20 more.
          THAT’s why they don’t want you to be able to connect to your tv without ps3/ps4. They want you to “need” both.

  • artemisthemp

    16GB Memory Card for Vita is $29.99 ad Bestbuy.
    To bad this ain’t the official price on 16 GB Memory Card

  • gold163

    The Vita has a very nice selection of games, actually… in Japan that is.

    • michel

      If it weren’t for the Japanese games of the last months, I wouldn’t have even noticed that the PS Vita existed.

  • 果林

    main reason im not getting it is bcuz of the premium priced memory cards :

  • Grape Monet

    The real question I’d like answered is if the Vita is actually profitable for Sony. Is it making any money? Is it making enough money to justify it’s production? Are the games making enough money for Sony?

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      I’m sure it is profitable for them, even if it’s not rolling in money. At the very least, they’ve got to be making money off of the memory cards.

      • malek86

        I’m not sure about that. According to the fidcal report, they made a 18 million dollars this whole fiscal year, and that’s including the PS3/PSP/PS2 and all related software.

        I have my doubts that the PSV is sold at a profit, especially cause many stores are selling it way below the RRP.

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          They did mention in the report that the price drop in Japan had an effect on their numbers, but that only speaks to one territory. It could be more profitable in the U.S. and Europe.

          • malek86

            Not much of a difference. The system received an official price cut only in Japan, but everywhere else, both stores and online retailers are selling it much lower than the suggested retail price, making it an unofficial price cut, a situation similar to what happened with the 3DS and is now happening with the Wii U.

            It’s at least a year (essentially a couple months after launch…) that I don’t see any store selling the wi-fi PSV for more than 199€, for example, unless they bundle a game with it.

            And I doubt that stores are just taking the effect of the price cut on themselves, Sony must be taking some of the blunt as well.

  • Jesse Torres

    How about a red and a blue vita over here west.

  • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

    I feel like one of the main problems with the Vita is that, well.

    I’m not really sure /what/ would be considered a big end-all system seller, for it.

    With Nintendo, you have identifiable franchises like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, anything like that. But Sony does not have that level of identifiable first party franchises that people will snap up immediately that have a widespread appeal and sell regardless of age and target– in fact, the only one that really fits that mark is LittleBigPlanet, and even that’s not a system seller.

    I like my Vita, but whenever I hear about how people want Sony to push out more high-profile games for the Vita, I sorta wonder: What exactly are the games people want them to announce?

    • XYZ_JolteonZ980

      Well it isnt like those franchises automatically mean that they are selling systems. I dont think 3DS is exactly lighting sales charts on fire..because of LoZ3DS and even the various marios.

      • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

        The 3DS is still outselling the Vita by a very wide margin– 3DS and XL sales combined for this week in Japan were over 76k, and that’s because of things like Animal Crossing, Luigi’s Mansion, and that New Life game that maximizes upon using the Miis.

        While certainly, identifiable franchises don’t automatically mean selling systems, they’re a source of familiarity. People are going to be more likely to buy a system for that familiarity, despite any claims of wanting an original IP– because that original IP isn’t proven. People don’t want to risk their money on something they don’t know is good or bad. Gravity Rush is a cool and interesting new IP, and has all the potential of being the kind of main franchise Sony needs, but it certainly didn’t sell the system.

        What I’m mainly asking is though, what’s a franchise that would make people want to buy the Vita, that isn’t the automatic statement of Monster Hunter?

        • XYZ_JolteonZ980

          I thought the take home message from that sales posts that you are comparing too is that those sales are LOWER than 3DS sales at the same point last year…which didnt have all those games you list…

          • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

            I’ll be honest, I’m not entirely certain what you’re exactly arguing with that, in terms of what my own point is.

            My point is that Nintendo’s got more of an established library of franchises that will drum up excitement for selling games and systems to a wide audience, while Sony does not, in my eyes.

            As NeoAthanasius has said, the Vita’s got a bunch of games that generally should sell to consumers… But we’re still only thankful that the Vita has generally averaged 20k units a week in Japan. My question is still, generally, what would catch the Vita on fire for consumers, that Sony can do uniquely, while appealing to the familiar tastes of their library?

          • XYZ_JolteonZ980

            I dont think your question can be answered until the price is lowered.

        • NeoAthanasius

          That is a very good question. I can’t think of any sure-fire titles that would push more systems. I bought a VIta purely for the chance to play the new Ys game. But games like that can’t help them sell the systems they need to sell.

          The Vita already has LittleBigPlanet, Sly Cooper, Resistance, Call of Duty, Madden, MLB the Show, Mortal Kombat, Rayman, Assassins Creed, and other games I can’t think of. All of these games should have helped drum up some excitement, but they didn’t in any meaningful way. I don’t expect to see too many Western 3rd party developers pushing more Vita games, until Sony sells more units. But your question still remains…What could do that? Sony’s own 1st party titles, combined with 3rd party stuff certainly hasn’t so far.

          • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

            Funnily, the reason I bought a Vita immediately is because of a Disgaea 3 port. I enjoy the Disgaea games on portable platforms, and I’ve already gotten far, far more done in it than I ever did on the PS3 version. Ys is a good touch too, and Persona 4 Golden’s just. Golden.

            But my interests do not necessarily match with other consumers, so it’s what makes me wonder whenever someone states it. :(

            Really, it is sorta funny. People say the Vita needs more games, but it’s got a fairly varied library already. It’s like that “PS3 has no games” joke. (though now it’s “Wii U has no games” joke, it seems.)

  • Skyer Ist

    Just 5 million PSP+PSV combined? wow… new machine looks like a complete failure as of now.

    • XYZ_JolteonZ980

      Selling five millions is a failure? (highly doubt those millions are even skewed towards more psps than vitas)…

      • Solomon_Kano

        Yes, 5 million is bad. Realistic probably, but those aren’t very high expectations.

        It’s not about the number itself, it’s about what that number means. 5 million sounds like a big number, but when you put that into context of it being for two systems, post-price drop, worldwide, that’s certainly not good.

  • Brimfyre

    I’ve been thinking of getting a Vita but I’ll wait til e3 to see if there will be a redesign or upgrade.

    My damn Birthday is on June 12th, so it will be too late to ask for a Birthday gift.

  • tubers

    Low projections eh.. meaning no heavy hitters for the rest of 2013?

    Guess KZM will be the biggest title for the rest of the year..

    GoW/GT/GTA/MGS/KH/FF = big titles from VITA’s predecessor.. MIA on the VITA.

    I’d be a fool to get my hopes up for such at E3.. PS4 focus is a must.

    • Solomon_Kano

      There’s always Gamescom and TGS. Last Gamescom brought news of KZ and Tearaway, so they certainly aren’t averse to pushing Vita news to other events.

  • Spirit Macardi

    Sad thing is I’d gladly buy a Vita if only there was a way to play my existing PSP games on it. Backwards compatibility is a huge selling point to me, and I don’t care if it would require an external device to do it; It would guarantee a buy from me.

    As it stands now though I’d have to re-buy all my games on PSN, which isn’t even entirely possible since quite a few titles I own only come in physical form.

  • JoJo_649

    I actually like the Vita, but sony needs to push it with games like a third Dissidia, another Metal Gear Solid like Peace Walker, God of War, more original games like Gravity Rush, and cut the price on the machine and memory cards, with that I believe they would survive the 3DS onslaught of October.

    • HerosLight

      Dissidia 3 on Vita would be great to see, same for the others.

      I would buy a Vita right away for Dissidia 3 and Tales of Hearts R/Innocence R (If that even gets localized).

      • Ferrick

        ^this

        pretty much one of the main reason on why i bought the vita in the first place is because of ToH:R and ToI:R, and i do wish that they will localize it, and i WILL buy those two even though i’ve already finished it in JP ver. (and dissidia 0123 would be great too)

  • http://www.youtube.com/Lyonharvestmoonfan Eduardo Rocha

    Sony needs to give some attention to the PS Vita. All they need is a price drop, and localizing more games.

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