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	<title>Comments on: Tell us how can the Xbox 360 win over Japan and win a copy of Lost Planet</title>
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		<title>By: Aidan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh missed something, if they were to get Final Fantasy series then they would be pretty much guaranteed a massive portion of the Japanese market.</description>
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		<title>By: Aidan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if the PS3 flunks really badly the only real contender is in fact the Wii and given the amount of Jap players on Lost Planet (they nearly outnumber Americans) I&#039;d say it wouldn&#039;t be such a big step I&#039;d suggest that Microsoft simply release more story based games (oh i don&#039;t know, lost planet, blue dragon) and less complete graphical games with a slightly less compelling storyline and buggy online gameplay (gears) or just keep a wide genre of games going and they will conquer japan eventually</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if the PS3 flunks really badly the only real contender is in fact the Wii and given the amount of Jap players on Lost Planet (they nearly outnumber Americans) I&#8217;d say it wouldn&#8217;t be such a big step I&#8217;d suggest that Microsoft simply release more story based games (oh i don&#8217;t know, lost planet, blue dragon) and less complete graphical games with a slightly less compelling storyline and buggy online gameplay (gears) or just keep a wide genre of games going and they will conquer japan eventually</p>
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		<title>By: Strider Seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strider Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the deadline for this, but I&#039;d still like to post...

I think the solution is quite simple, actually.

The 360 had an bad start in Japan because of its lack of quality software. There just wasn&#039;t enough Japanese developer support. The launch line up was quite sad. What they should&#039;ve done, was build with Japanese developers from the start to work on fresh exclusives, fresh originals, and bona fide classic franchises. Launching the 360 in Japan without any Japanese developed titles, was like launching a present-day portable music player without MP3-file support; simply put; there was nothing to play.

The 360 is American in origin, so it really needs to study its Japanese market. MS really needs to do its homework on this one. What is popular in Japan? What moves units? What do gamers want?

Maybe it&#039;s not too late. They can still work with the trusted guns, like Konami, Capcom, Square, Namco, etc. to bring out some good stuff. No, we don&#039;t want stuff like Ninety Nine Nights. That felt like some watered down, diluted, Square stepchild title that wanted to pass as next gen. Oh wait. That&#039;s exactly what it was. N3 didn&#039;t have any original characters, no engaging gameplay, no engrossing storyline, no evolution in game design, or other any redeemable qualities. The game was weak. Microsoft needs to stay away from stuff like this, and focus on the hard hitting, crowd pleasing titles. Case in point: the 360 gets Ninety Nine Nights, while the old PS2 gets FFXII.  FFXII sold millions, Ninety Nine Nights didn&#039;t sell as many.

I think the difficulty here is that Microsoft wants to push next-gen gaming philosophy when all Japan really wants to do is play tried / true, correctly evolved, trusted, and sound quality game play. That isn&#039;t to say that next gen doesn&#039;t have any stay in Japan, but they need to have a foundation first. Develop quality, Japanese based games first, and then high-light that line up with cutting edge titles afterwards, like Lost Planet. Look at the DS Lite, or the Wii. Not exactly eye popping in terms of visuals, but its all about the trusted game play. And that stuff moves units. The recent sales spike caused by Blue Dragon proves all of this. AA quality titles within known genres / developers will sell consoles. Work on this stuff first, lay that foundation, and they can lay on as many next gen titles without worry. 

The XBLA platform is a great idea, but it also suffers from a weak line up of games. For one, is the 50MB size limit hurting or helping Microsoft? To be certain, I think the size limit is hurting Microsoft. Sure, it allows for gamers to transport the game around, but honestly, who really uses this stuff? They need to do away with the size limit and feature some real games on XBLA. Offer some real content, like Megaman, Street Fighter Alpha, Sudoku, Sega classics, Namco classics, Konami classics, Hudson classics, Tecmo classics, Super Dodge Ball, strategy games, etc. Only then, will you have a contender.

Sadly, the 360 can only offer shooters, sports, and action games at the moment, and little else.

To succeed in Japan, the 360 needs a solid base of quality games, must-have titles for XBLA, several next gen titles mixed in, and heck maybe even a smaller, redesigned power supply for the hell of it.

All of that Xbox Live stuff: downloadable media, picture packs, music streaming, etc. that should come second - while they focus on making it a solid game console; first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the deadline for this, but I&#8217;d still like to post&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the solution is quite simple, actually.</p>
<p>The 360 had an bad start in Japan because of its lack of quality software. There just wasn&#8217;t enough Japanese developer support. The launch line up was quite sad. What they should&#8217;ve done, was build with Japanese developers from the start to work on fresh exclusives, fresh originals, and bona fide classic franchises. Launching the 360 in Japan without any Japanese developed titles, was like launching a present-day portable music player without MP3-file support; simply put; there was nothing to play.</p>
<p>The 360 is American in origin, so it really needs to study its Japanese market. MS really needs to do its homework on this one. What is popular in Japan? What moves units? What do gamers want?</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not too late. They can still work with the trusted guns, like Konami, Capcom, Square, Namco, etc. to bring out some good stuff. No, we don&#8217;t want stuff like Ninety Nine Nights. That felt like some watered down, diluted, Square stepchild title that wanted to pass as next gen. Oh wait. That&#8217;s exactly what it was. N3 didn&#8217;t have any original characters, no engaging gameplay, no engrossing storyline, no evolution in game design, or other any redeemable qualities. The game was weak. Microsoft needs to stay away from stuff like this, and focus on the hard hitting, crowd pleasing titles. Case in point: the 360 gets Ninety Nine Nights, while the old PS2 gets FFXII.  FFXII sold millions, Ninety Nine Nights didn&#8217;t sell as many.</p>
<p>I think the difficulty here is that Microsoft wants to push next-gen gaming philosophy when all Japan really wants to do is play tried / true, correctly evolved, trusted, and sound quality game play. That isn&#8217;t to say that next gen doesn&#8217;t have any stay in Japan, but they need to have a foundation first. Develop quality, Japanese based games first, and then high-light that line up with cutting edge titles afterwards, like Lost Planet. Look at the DS Lite, or the Wii. Not exactly eye popping in terms of visuals, but its all about the trusted game play. And that stuff moves units. The recent sales spike caused by Blue Dragon proves all of this. AA quality titles within known genres / developers will sell consoles. Work on this stuff first, lay that foundation, and they can lay on as many next gen titles without worry. </p>
<p>The XBLA platform is a great idea, but it also suffers from a weak line up of games. For one, is the 50MB size limit hurting or helping Microsoft? To be certain, I think the size limit is hurting Microsoft. Sure, it allows for gamers to transport the game around, but honestly, who really uses this stuff? They need to do away with the size limit and feature some real games on XBLA. Offer some real content, like Megaman, Street Fighter Alpha, Sudoku, Sega classics, Namco classics, Konami classics, Hudson classics, Tecmo classics, Super Dodge Ball, strategy games, etc. Only then, will you have a contender.</p>
<p>Sadly, the 360 can only offer shooters, sports, and action games at the moment, and little else.</p>
<p>To succeed in Japan, the 360 needs a solid base of quality games, must-have titles for XBLA, several next gen titles mixed in, and heck maybe even a smaller, redesigned power supply for the hell of it.</p>
<p>All of that Xbox Live stuff: downloadable media, picture packs, music streaming, etc. that should come second &#8211; while they focus on making it a solid game console; first.</p>
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		<title>By: Kakashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kakashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote:
Devin: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Sony doesn’t have to own the company. They can pay to have exclusive console rights to certain games.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Devin, I totally agree.  I&#039;ve been gaming long enough (since the good old days of Atari 2600 and NES) to see when companies secure exclusive rights to certain games or franchises. I still have fond memories of SF2 and MK I (even though it had sweat instead of blood, the graphics weren&#039;t bad, but MK II made up for it) on the SNES.

Like you, I sure hope the MGS4 rumor is true.  I mean, MG had its start on the MSX/NES; it then went on to have numerous sequels on Sony&#039;s systems.  Why not make the move over to Microsoft?
Whether the rumor is true or not,  GTA4 will be on both the PS3 and XBOX 360 this year, and as you&#039;ve probably heard, VF5 will be on the 360 as well.

However, I don&#039;t agree with your statement: &lt;i&gt;&quot;They [Microsoft] have no chance of winning this gen,...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Personally, I think the battle has just begun, and it will take a few years before we see a clear winner.  MS already have a few hits that were popular in Japan -- Dead Rising and Blue Dragon to name a few.  Lost Planet will most likely be a hit in both Japan and the US, which is suprising to me, since the Japanese don&#039;t seem to like FPS.

So, only time will tell which console will win the war.</description>
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Devin: <i>&#8220;Sony doesn’t have to own the company. They can pay to have exclusive console rights to certain games.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Devin, I totally agree.  I&#8217;ve been gaming long enough (since the good old days of Atari 2600 and NES) to see when companies secure exclusive rights to certain games or franchises. I still have fond memories of SF2 and MK I (even though it had sweat instead of blood, the graphics weren&#8217;t bad, but MK II made up for it) on the SNES.</p>
<p>Like you, I sure hope the MGS4 rumor is true.  I mean, MG had its start on the MSX/NES; it then went on to have numerous sequels on Sony&#8217;s systems.  Why not make the move over to Microsoft?<br />
Whether the rumor is true or not,  GTA4 will be on both the PS3 and XBOX 360 this year, and as you&#8217;ve probably heard, VF5 will be on the 360 as well.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t agree with your statement: <i>&#8220;They [Microsoft] have no chance of winning this gen,&#8230;&#8221;</i><br />
Personally, I think the battle has just begun, and it will take a few years before we see a clear winner.  MS already have a few hits that were popular in Japan &#8212; Dead Rising and Blue Dragon to name a few.  Lost Planet will most likely be a hit in both Japan and the US, which is suprising to me, since the Japanese don&#8217;t seem to like FPS.</p>
<p>So, only time will tell which console will win the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony doesn&#039;t have to own the company. They can pay to have exclusive console rights to certain games. Kind of like what Nintendo did with Capcom and the Resident Evil series. Nintendo made a five game deal with them, which is over now luckily. I really hope the MGS4 rumor is true, if they lose that and FF/Dragon Quest Sony is done for. Microsoft should just try to make good with Japanese developers and build up more support, that is something they definitely need over there. They have no chance of winning this gen, but maybe if they up the ante on some of the things said above, plus good word of mouth from the few people that do have one over in Japan, then they might be well set for the next round. As long as the 360 is strong in the US then I&#039;ll be happy. The Japs just don&#039;t know what they&#039;re missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony doesn&#8217;t have to own the company. They can pay to have exclusive console rights to certain games. Kind of like what Nintendo did with Capcom and the Resident Evil series. Nintendo made a five game deal with them, which is over now luckily. I really hope the MGS4 rumor is true, if they lose that and FF/Dragon Quest Sony is done for. Microsoft should just try to make good with Japanese developers and build up more support, that is something they definitely need over there. They have no chance of winning this gen, but maybe if they up the ante on some of the things said above, plus good word of mouth from the few people that do have one over in Japan, then they might be well set for the next round. As long as the 360 is strong in the US then I&#8217;ll be happy. The Japs just don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kakashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kakashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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snake: &lt;i&gt;What kakashi said about them trying to make final fantasy and MGS xbox exclusives wouldnt be possible, even though the games are developed by 3rd party companies they are still 80% owned by sony, microsoft wouldnt even be able to get those games made for the 360 without permission from sony, let alone get them as exclusives.&lt;/i&gt;

I beg to differ -- it might be very well possible.  If you are old enough to remember, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear both had their start on the Famicom/NES, with a few sequels to FF on the SNES/Super Famicom.  It wasn&#039;t until the PlayStation (One) that both franchises were made for Sony&#039;s system.

Also, not to start a flaming war, but where did you read that Konami and Square-Enix (formerly Squaresoft before they merged with Enix, publisher of the awesome &lt;i&gt;Terranigma&lt;/i&gt;) are 80% owned by Sony??  So you&#039;re saying Sony &lt;i&gt;allowed&lt;/i&gt; Square-Enix to make FF games for the DS?  Last I checked, they are their own companies.

I think anything&#039;s possible with regards to which system gets exlusives.  Sure, there&#039;s a high probablity it won&#039;t happen, but if you&#039;ve been keeping up with recent gaming news, it&#039;s rumored that MGS4 will be released on both PS3 and XBOX 360. :)</description>
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snake: <i>What kakashi said about them trying to make final fantasy and MGS xbox exclusives wouldnt be possible, even though the games are developed by 3rd party companies they are still 80% owned by sony, microsoft wouldnt even be able to get those games made for the 360 without permission from sony, let alone get them as exclusives.</i></p>
<p>I beg to differ &#8212; it might be very well possible.  If you are old enough to remember, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear both had their start on the Famicom/NES, with a few sequels to FF on the SNES/Super Famicom.  It wasn&#8217;t until the PlayStation (One) that both franchises were made for Sony&#8217;s system.</p>
<p>Also, not to start a flaming war, but where did you read that Konami and Square-Enix (formerly Squaresoft before they merged with Enix, publisher of the awesome <i>Terranigma</i>) are 80% owned by Sony??  So you&#8217;re saying Sony <i>allowed</i> Square-Enix to make FF games for the DS?  Last I checked, they are their own companies.</p>
<p>I think anything&#8217;s possible with regards to which system gets exlusives.  Sure, there&#8217;s a high probablity it won&#8217;t happen, but if you&#8217;ve been keeping up with recent gaming news, it&#8217;s rumored that MGS4 will be released on both PS3 and XBOX 360. <img src='http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft&#039;s approach to Japan is not all bad. The brand must build trust in a market where there are already established giants (Sega, Nintento, Sony, etc...). From an outsider&#039;s perspective it seems as if Microsoft is using a top-down strategy, trying to win (or buy) over Japanese developers and just let the content do the talking. While this process is not instant, it may very well be successful. No need for gimmicky tactics. As long as Gates backs every company, from dating sims on up, the finicky market will soon see the perks in the 360.

They started this process lat in the game of the XBOX1 and the advancements have helped the 360 get off the ground a little faster. With a 360/2 definitely in the works in Redmond, I can predict a very bright future for the company in the land of the rising sun. Just keep giving full (cheap) dev kits to all those developers and starting up the full out Japanese-viral marketing (mobile phone ads, billboards, handouts at the disco, etc), as well as loosening up the &quot;attitude&quot; at Microsoft, and Gates &amp; co. should be fine. It seems as though they get this and as long as they continue on the current path in an exponential matter, they should be fine. 

In order of importance:
Solid Hardware -&gt; Japanese Developers -&gt; the fostering of innately Eastern genres -&gt; abundance of Japanese friendly content on XBOX live -&gt; viral marketing -&gt; GREAT SUCCESS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft&#8217;s approach to Japan is not all bad. The brand must build trust in a market where there are already established giants (Sega, Nintento, Sony, etc&#8230;). From an outsider&#8217;s perspective it seems as if Microsoft is using a top-down strategy, trying to win (or buy) over Japanese developers and just let the content do the talking. While this process is not instant, it may very well be successful. No need for gimmicky tactics. As long as Gates backs every company, from dating sims on up, the finicky market will soon see the perks in the 360.</p>
<p>They started this process lat in the game of the XBOX1 and the advancements have helped the 360 get off the ground a little faster. With a 360/2 definitely in the works in Redmond, I can predict a very bright future for the company in the land of the rising sun. Just keep giving full (cheap) dev kits to all those developers and starting up the full out Japanese-viral marketing (mobile phone ads, billboards, handouts at the disco, etc), as well as loosening up the &#8220;attitude&#8221; at Microsoft, and Gates &amp; co. should be fine. It seems as though they get this and as long as they continue on the current path in an exponential matter, they should be fine. </p>
<p>In order of importance:<br />
Solid Hardware -&gt; Japanese Developers -&gt; the fostering of innately Eastern genres -&gt; abundance of Japanese friendly content on XBOX live -&gt; viral marketing -&gt; GREAT SUCCESS!</p>
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		<title>By: Devin G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing I thought of is having Anime/Manga versions of Microsofts franchises. Maybe that would build up their popularity over in Japan, thus selling more 360s. Retooling their existing stuff for the Jap. market wouldn&#039;t be a bad idea. Maybe even a slightly altered Mass Effect or Fable might work. Hell, even a Halo JRPG could be crazy good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I thought of is having Anime/Manga versions of Microsofts franchises. Maybe that would build up their popularity over in Japan, thus selling more 360s. Retooling their existing stuff for the Jap. market wouldn&#8217;t be a bad idea. Maybe even a slightly altered Mass Effect or Fable might work. Hell, even a Halo JRPG could be crazy good.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have Sony or Nintendo put their name on it. If they don&#039;t do that I&#039;m not sure how they could do it. Maybe once the big name third party Sony franchises start moving over we might see a change. If that doesn&#039;t sway them, I don&#039;t know what will. Maybe some hentai in the video download section or something might help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have Sony or Nintendo put their name on it. If they don&#8217;t do that I&#8217;m not sure how they could do it. Maybe once the big name third party Sony franchises start moving over we might see a change. If that doesn&#8217;t sway them, I don&#8217;t know what will. Maybe some hentai in the video download section or something might help.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly what the 360 is lacking is some innovative rhythm game.  playstation has a bunch--taiko, ddr, guitar hero, etc.  gamecube has a couple--donkey konga, probably some others i can&#039;t think of off the top of my head.  Microsoft needs to exploit that market and do something new with it.  Who wouldn&#039;t love to duel with their friends on a game like &quot;Harmonica Hustlers&quot; or rock out on &quot;Battle Bassoon&quot;?</description>
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