Comments on: Twenty years of Final Fantasy and the seventh revision http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/ The secret level in the world of video game news. Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: yawhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-119562 yaw Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:05:05 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-119562 yaw but ff games arent just about the gameplay its about the STORY STORY STORY OK GET IT GOT IT OK GOOD yaw but ff games arent just about the gameplay its about the STORY STORY STORY OK GET IT GOT IT OK GOOD

]]> By: yawhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675074 yaw Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675074 yaw but ff games arent just about the gameplay its about the STORY STORY STORY OK GET IT GOT IT OK GOOD yaw but ff games arent just about the gameplay its about the STORY STORY STORY OK GET IT GOT IT OK GOOD

]]> By: Chrishttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-118365 Chris Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:25:40 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-118365 Square may come up with new battle systems and new plots, but they all pretty much amount to piling on the best spells and hacking away with so little difficulty you could probably win most fights with all characters on berserk. Now that Matsuno's gone, all the people left are the jokers who take a bunch of oversensitive teenagers, make them the one destined to save the world, give their brothers or fathers or best friends some kind of weird metaphysical power, and watch them cry and whine through it.Then again, the Zelda people just sort of decided to stop being clever with dungeon design and just contrive a bunch of situations where you're forced to use the tool they happen to give you in that dungeon with very linear paths through the dungeons.Actually, pretty much none of the franchises that were great ten to fifteen years ago are still making great games. Square may come up with new battle systems and new plots, but they all pretty much amount to piling on the best spells and hacking away with so little difficulty you could probably win most fights with all characters on berserk. Now that Matsuno’s gone, all the people left are the jokers who take a bunch of oversensitive teenagers, make them the one destined to save the world, give their brothers or fathers or best friends some kind of weird metaphysical power, and watch them cry and whine through it.

Then again, the Zelda people just sort of decided to stop being clever with dungeon design and just contrive a bunch of situations where you’re forced to use the tool they happen to give you in that dungeon with very linear paths through the dungeons.

Actually, pretty much none of the franchises that were great ten to fifteen years ago are still making great games.

]]> By: Chrishttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675073 Chris Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:25:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675073 Square may come up with new battle systems and new plots, but they all pretty much amount to piling on the best spells and hacking away with so little difficulty you could probably win most fights with all characters on berserk. Now that Matsuno's gone, all the people left are the jokers who take a bunch of oversensitive teenagers, make them the one destined to save the world, give their brothers or fathers or best friends some kind of weird metaphysical power, and watch them cry and whine through it.Then again, the Zelda people just sort of decided to stop being clever with dungeon design and just contrive a bunch of situations where you're forced to use the tool they happen to give you in that dungeon with very linear paths through the dungeons.Actually, pretty much none of the franchises that were great ten to fifteen years ago are still making great games. Square may come up with new battle systems and new plots, but they all pretty much amount to piling on the best spells and hacking away with so little difficulty you could probably win most fights with all characters on berserk. Now that Matsuno’s gone, all the people left are the jokers who take a bunch of oversensitive teenagers, make them the one destined to save the world, give their brothers or fathers or best friends some kind of weird metaphysical power, and watch them cry and whine through it.

Then again, the Zelda people just sort of decided to stop being clever with dungeon design and just contrive a bunch of situations where you’re forced to use the tool they happen to give you in that dungeon with very linear paths through the dungeons.

Actually, pretty much none of the franchises that were great ten to fifteen years ago are still making great games.

]]> By: Tonyhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-114027 Tony Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:37:14 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-114027 If you don't see a difference between Mario 64, Super Mario World and the original SMB I don't think there's much helping you. The story is hardly as important to the series as it is something like FF that's practically been based upon it since the Final Fantasy II on the Famicom. Remove all the fanciness and basic changes and, really, aside from XI and XII there's not exactly been anything that revolutionized the series. Pick from menus, turn based combat, etc. It's all evolution. I don't think this makes the games bad (although I love RPGs, I'm not really an FF fan I must say).Which gets me to the simple fact that there's a large difference between a sequel and a remake. If you don't want a sequel then fine, but that's hardly the case being made here at all. It's a stretch at best. I don't think anyone in their right minds would say that the original Final Fantasy hasn't been re-released and revised way too many times and we all know it's just going to happen again. If you don’t see a difference between Mario 64, Super Mario World and the original SMB I don’t think there’s much helping you. The story is hardly as important to the series as it is something like FF that’s practically been based upon it since the Final Fantasy II on the Famicom. Remove all the fanciness and basic changes and, really, aside from XI and XII there’s not exactly been anything that revolutionized the series. Pick from menus, turn based combat, etc. It’s all evolution. I don’t think this makes the games bad (although I love RPGs, I’m not really an FF fan I must say).

Which gets me to the simple fact that there’s a large difference between a sequel and a remake. If you don’t want a sequel then fine, but that’s hardly the case being made here at all. It’s a stretch at best. I don’t think anyone in their right minds would say that the original Final Fantasy hasn’t been re-released and revised way too many times and we all know it’s just going to happen again.

]]> By: Tonyhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675072 Tony Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:37:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675072 If you don't see a difference between Mario 64, Super Mario World and the original SMB I don't think there's much helping you. The story is hardly as important to the series as it is something like FF that's practically been based upon it since the Final Fantasy II on the Famicom. Remove all the fanciness and basic changes and, really, aside from XI and XII there's not exactly been anything that revolutionized the series. Pick from menus, turn based combat, etc. It's all evolution. I don't think this makes the games bad (although I love RPGs, I'm not really an FF fan I must say).Which gets me to the simple fact that there's a large difference between a sequel and a remake. If you don't want a sequel then fine, but that's hardly the case being made here at all. It's a stretch at best. I don't think anyone in their right minds would say that the original Final Fantasy hasn't been re-released and revised way too many times and we all know it's just going to happen again. If you don’t see a difference between Mario 64, Super Mario World and the original SMB I don’t think there’s much helping you. The story is hardly as important to the series as it is something like FF that’s practically been based upon it since the Final Fantasy II on the Famicom. Remove all the fanciness and basic changes and, really, aside from XI and XII there’s not exactly been anything that revolutionized the series. Pick from menus, turn based combat, etc. It’s all evolution. I don’t think this makes the games bad (although I love RPGs, I’m not really an FF fan I must say).

Which gets me to the simple fact that there’s a large difference between a sequel and a remake. If you don’t want a sequel then fine, but that’s hardly the case being made here at all. It’s a stretch at best. I don’t think anyone in their right minds would say that the original Final Fantasy hasn’t been re-released and revised way too many times and we all know it’s just going to happen again.

]]> By: Joseph Handibodehttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-109577 Joseph Handibode Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:17:36 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-109577 Let me guess. You say Final Fantasy needs to stop making remakes. Hmm sounds like you probably play Mario, Zelda a lot. Since you obviously having play FF if you think they make the same games. They have different story on all FF games, new battle system.So they make FFs updates to newer systems, you don't have to buy them do you?I say there should be no more Marios or Zeldas. Its the same damn game people no new storyline. Let me guess. You say Final Fantasy needs to stop making remakes. Hmm sounds like you probably play Mario, Zelda a lot. Since you obviously having play FF if you think they make the same games. They have different story on all FF games, new battle system.

So they make FFs updates to newer systems, you don’t have to buy them do you?

I say there should be no more Marios or Zeldas. Its the same damn game people no new storyline.

]]> By: Joseph Handibodehttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675071 Joseph Handibode Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:17:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675071 Let me guess. You say Final Fantasy needs to stop making remakes. Hmm sounds like you probably play Mario, Zelda a lot. Since you obviously having play FF if you think they make the same games. They have different story on all FF games, new battle system.So they make FFs updates to newer systems, you don't have to buy them do you?I say there should be no more Marios or Zeldas. Its the same damn game people no new storyline. Let me guess. You say Final Fantasy needs to stop making remakes. Hmm sounds like you probably play Mario, Zelda a lot. Since you obviously having play FF if you think they make the same games. They have different story on all FF games, new battle system.

So they make FFs updates to newer systems, you don’t have to buy them do you?

I say there should be no more Marios or Zeldas. Its the same damn game people no new storyline.

]]> By: Aoshi00http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-108450 Aoshi00 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:56:37 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-108450 Yeah, that's the eternal quesiton.. all we have was just the name "Chrono Break"... As much as I'm tired of some of these remakes, I couldn't help but think how sweet it would be if Chrono Trigger is remade w/ the Blue Dragon graphic engine. Yeah, that’s the eternal quesiton.. all we have was just the name “Chrono Break”… As much as I’m tired of some of these remakes, I couldn’t help but think how sweet it would be if Chrono Trigger is remade w/ the Blue Dragon graphic engine.

]]> By: Aoshi00http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675070 Aoshi00 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:56:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675070 Yeah, that's the eternal quesiton.. all we have was just the name "Chrono Break"... As much as I'm tired of some of these remakes, I couldn't help but think how sweet it would be if Chrono Trigger is remade w/ the Blue Dragon graphic engine. Yeah, that’s the eternal quesiton.. all we have was just the name “Chrono Break”… As much as I’m tired of some of these remakes, I couldn’t help but think how sweet it would be if Chrono Trigger is remade w/ the Blue Dragon graphic engine.

]]> By: Melanie Solomonhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-108443 Melanie Solomon Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:41:43 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-108443 sweet,neat,awsoooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeee sweet,neat,awsoooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeee

]]> By: Melanie Solomonhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675069 Melanie Solomon Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:41:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675069 sweet,neat,awsoooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeee sweet,neat,awsoooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeee

]]> By: the_importerhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-107496 the_importer Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:35:38 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-107496 Makes you wonder what the industry would be like without the RPG cash cow? I mean Square would obviously be dead since this was suppose to be their final game, so Enix would still be Enix. The big question is, what would Sony have done? One of the top reason why the PSX sold well was because of the FF games, that's a fact that can't be denied.Would the Saturn or N64 been the victor of that console war? Makes you wonder. Anyway, back to Square, they got to stop remaking their old games and start making something original for a change. Where's my next F#$%!&g Chrono game damnit! Makes you wonder what the industry would be like without the RPG cash cow? I mean Square would obviously be dead since this was suppose to be their final game, so Enix would still be Enix. The big question is, what would Sony have done? One of the top reason why the PSX sold well was because of the FF games, that’s a fact that can’t be denied.

Would the Saturn or N64 been the victor of that console war? Makes you wonder. Anyway, back to Square, they got to stop remaking their old games and start making something original for a change. Where’s my next F#$%!&g Chrono game damnit!

]]> By: the_importerhttp://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/comment-page-1/#comment-675068 the_importer Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:35:00 +0000 http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/twenty-years-of-final-fantasy-and-the-seventh-revision/#comment-675068 Makes you wonder what the industry would be like without the RPG cash cow? I mean Square would obviously be dead since this was suppose to be their final game, so Enix would still be Enix. The big question is, what would Sony have done? One of the top reason why the PSX sold well was because of the FF games, that's a fact that can't be denied.Would the Saturn or N64 been the victor of that console war? Makes you wonder. Anyway, back to Square, they got to stop remaking their old games and start making something original for a change. Where's my next F#$%!&g Chrono game damnit! Makes you wonder what the industry would be like without the RPG cash cow? I mean Square would obviously be dead since this was suppose to be their final game, so Enix would still be Enix. The big question is, what would Sony have done? One of the top reason why the PSX sold well was because of the FF games, that’s a fact that can’t be denied.

Would the Saturn or N64 been the victor of that console war? Makes you wonder. Anyway, back to Square, they got to stop remaking their old games and start making something original for a change. Where’s my next F#$%!&g Chrono game damnit!

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