<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Siliconera Speaks Up: Rules for Reviewers</title> <atom:link href="http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/</link> <description>The secret level in the world of video game news.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Hello Hello</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-615832</link> <dc:creator>Hello Hello</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:31:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-615832</guid> <description>I thought it was interesting when Jenni used the word &quot;journalism&quot;. The fact is that the vast majority of video game reviewers do not have any kind of formal training in journalism. They didn&#039;t take classes that taught them objectivity or journalistic integrity so their reviews often end up being based on their own personal feelings and that&#039;s it. A lot of the time it seems like reviewers are fishing for excuses to praise or trash a game that doesn&#039;t deserve the kind of treatment they&#039;re giving it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The biggest problem however is political reviews. Like where a reviewer will give a high score to a game that&#039;s published by one or their sponsors or because the game is from a high profiled series, causing them to give a high score to avoid a backlash from the angry mob of torch-wielding fanboys. Likewise a lot of great and good games seem to receive bad scores just because they&#039;re low profiled. I assume this is to balance out the over inflated scores they gave high profiled games so they can avoid being accused of giving too many high scores.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point I don&#039;t take reviews from sponsored websites seriously at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was interesting when Jenni used the word &#8220;journalism&#8221;. The fact is that the vast majority of video game reviewers do not have any kind of formal training in journalism. They didn&#39;t take classes that taught them objectivity or journalistic integrity so their reviews often end up being based on their own personal feelings and that&#39;s it. A lot of the time it seems like reviewers are fishing for excuses to praise or trash a game that doesn&#39;t deserve the kind of treatment they&#39;re giving it.</p><p>The biggest problem however is political reviews. Like where a reviewer will give a high score to a game that&#39;s published by one or their sponsors or because the game is from a high profiled series, causing them to give a high score to avoid a backlash from the angry mob of torch-wielding fanboys. Likewise a lot of great and good games seem to receive bad scores just because they&#39;re low profiled. I assume this is to balance out the over inflated scores they gave high profiled games so they can avoid being accused of giving too many high scores.</p><p>At this point I don&#39;t take reviews from sponsored websites seriously at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jenni</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-615833</link> <dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-615833</guid> <description>I wanted to replay directly to your comment, but I think the thread got too log cause the reply option didn&#039;t show up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I ended up getting Echoes of Time too! I found the DS version pretty cheap used. We should try it sometime. :D Whoever has the Wii version could host and we could see how it goes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to replay directly to your comment, but I think the thread got too log cause the reply option didn&#39;t show up.</p><p>I ended up getting Echoes of Time too! I found the DS version pretty cheap used. We should try it sometime. :D Whoever has the Wii version could host and we could see how it goes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ishaan</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-615834</link> <dc:creator>Ishaan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-615834</guid> <description>Yea, Spencer and I wanted to do that with Echoes of Time to test the Wii/DS connectivity, but that never happened. :(</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Spencer and I wanted to do that with Echoes of Time to test the Wii/DS connectivity, but that never happened. :(</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hello Hello</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572394</link> <dc:creator>Hello Hello</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:31:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572394</guid> <description>I thought it was interesting when Jenni used the word &quot;journalism&quot;. The fact is that the vast majority of video game reviewers do not have any kind of formal training in journalism. They didn&#039;t take classes that taught them objectivity or journalistic integrity so their reviews often end up being based on their own personal feelings and that&#039;s it. A lot of the time it seems like reviewers are fishing for excuses to praise or trash a game that doesn&#039;t deserve the kind of treatment they&#039;re giving it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The biggest problem however is political reviews. Like where a reviewer will give a high score to a game that&#039;s published by one or their sponsors or because the game is from a high profiled series, causing them to give a high score to avoid a backlash from the angry mob of torch-wielding fanboys. Likewise a lot of great and good games seem to receive bad scores just because they&#039;re low profiled. I assume this is to balance out the over inflated scores they gave high profiled games so they can avoid being accused of giving too many high scores.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point I don&#039;t take reviews from sponsored websites seriously at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was interesting when Jenni used the word &#8220;journalism&#8221;. The fact is that the vast majority of video game reviewers do not have any kind of formal training in journalism. They didn&#39;t take classes that taught them objectivity or journalistic integrity so their reviews often end up being based on their own personal feelings and that&#39;s it. A lot of the time it seems like reviewers are fishing for excuses to praise or trash a game that doesn&#39;t deserve the kind of treatment they&#39;re giving it.</p><p>The biggest problem however is political reviews. Like where a reviewer will give a high score to a game that&#39;s published by one or their sponsors or because the game is from a high profiled series, causing them to give a high score to avoid a backlash from the angry mob of torch-wielding fanboys. Likewise a lot of great and good games seem to receive bad scores just because they&#39;re low profiled. I assume this is to balance out the over inflated scores they gave high profiled games so they can avoid being accused of giving too many high scores.</p><p>At this point I don&#39;t take reviews from sponsored websites seriously at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jenni</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572392</link> <dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572392</guid> <description>I wanted to replay directly to your comment, but I think the thread got too log cause the reply option didn&#039;t show up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I ended up getting Echoes of Time too! I found the DS version pretty cheap used. We should try it sometime. :D Whoever has the Wii version could host and we could see how it goes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to replay directly to your comment, but I think the thread got too log cause the reply option didn&#39;t show up.</p><p>I ended up getting Echoes of Time too! I found the DS version pretty cheap used. We should try it sometime. :D Whoever has the Wii version could host and we could see how it goes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ishaan</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572378</link> <dc:creator>Ishaan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:59:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572378</guid> <description>Yea, Spencer and I wanted to do that with Echoes of Time to test the Wii/DS connectivity, but that never happened. :(</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Spencer and I wanted to do that with Echoes of Time to test the Wii/DS connectivity, but that never happened. :(</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Spencer</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572337</link> <dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572337</guid> <description>I just wanted to say thanks for the kind and generous offer. The the thought alone makes me smile, but I would rather you donate items like that to a charity than to us. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say thanks for the kind and generous offer. The the thought alone makes me smile, but I would rather you donate items like that to a charity than to us. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CleruTesh</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572334</link> <dc:creator>CleruTesh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572334</guid> <description>I cannot seem to directly reply to your reply, as the branch is over-extended.  Anyways, you may be right, I did give away my first Wii to my sister, and ended up buying another a year later.  I AM excited about Atelier Rorona.  But that&#039;s pretty much it.  I just feel that capitalist excess is a huge problem, and hate feeling like I am a part of it.  Also, the PS3 burns about 10x the electricity of the Wii, and I hate that too.  Side note:  Wii actually burns MORE electricity than PS3 or Xbox360 when turned &quot;off&quot; if Wiiconnect24 is set to be always on.  So I highly recommend turning that off if you care about that sorta thing.  Sorry if I implied that you were a type of charity, in retrospect that was an inappropriately large thing to offer casually.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot seem to directly reply to your reply, as the branch is over-extended.  Anyways, you may be right, I did give away my first Wii to my sister, and ended up buying another a year later.  I AM excited about Atelier Rorona.  But that&#39;s pretty much it.  I just feel that capitalist excess is a huge problem, and hate feeling like I am a part of it.  Also, the PS3 burns about 10x the electricity of the Wii, and I hate that too.  Side note:  Wii actually burns MORE electricity than PS3 or Xbox360 when turned &#8220;off&#8221; if Wiiconnect24 is set to be always on.  So I highly recommend turning that off if you care about that sorta thing.  Sorry if I implied that you were a type of charity, in retrospect that was an inappropriately large thing to offer casually.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matty</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572321</link> <dc:creator>matty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572321</guid> <description>As many here have mentioned, a reviewer can review just straight out impressions or construct their review specifically for an audience (usually for fans of that genre). Both have their merits. I&#039;m glad for the technical reviewers for being there when I need them as well as the fan reviewers for knowing where we&#039;re coming from and being on the same page. I think it&#039;s important for reviewers to not lay the burden on the readers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s interesting this topic came up when a founder of a game company came out and called out on game reviewers for not adjusting to certain games:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4059&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4059&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many here have mentioned, a reviewer can review just straight out impressions or construct their review specifically for an audience (usually for fans of that genre). Both have their merits. I&#39;m glad for the technical reviewers for being there when I need them as well as the fan reviewers for knowing where we&#39;re coming from and being on the same page. I think it&#39;s important for reviewers to not lay the burden on the readers.</p><p>It&#39;s interesting this topic came up when a founder of a game company came out and called out on game reviewers for not adjusting to certain games:<br /><a href="http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4059" rel="nofollow">http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=4059</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Louise</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572311</link> <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572311</guid> <description>While I try to write playtests as a mix of both approaches, as a whole I think I look at games in a phenomenological way.  I bring to most of my playtests whatever exeperience and biases I have with that genre, and I write with the assumption that I don&#039;t have to go *too* much into detail about things like gameplay mechanics or history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Siliconera is a small site, which is great in my mind b/c people can go to the bigger sites to get bullet-points and generalizations about the game, but they can come to  Siliconera for a more personal opinion about it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I try to write playtests as a mix of both approaches, as a whole I think I look at games in a phenomenological way.  I bring to most of my playtests whatever exeperience and biases I have with that genre, and I write with the assumption that I don&#39;t have to go *too* much into detail about things like gameplay mechanics or history.</p><p>Siliconera is a small site, which is great in my mind b/c people can go to the bigger sites to get bullet-points and generalizations about the game, but they can come to  Siliconera for a more personal opinion about it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Louise</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572310</link> <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572310</guid> <description>I have to admit, I look at Play more for the pretty pictures than the actual text.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I look at Play more for the pretty pictures than the actual text.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jenni</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572286</link> <dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:21:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572286</guid> <description>Probably. Then, if it had Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection multiplayer, we could even all play that together to help with a review like that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably. Then, if it had Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection multiplayer, we could even all play that together to help with a review like that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: terracannon876</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572274</link> <dc:creator>terracannon876</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:48:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572274</guid> <description>A one-time deal, you bastard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ask bona, he knows I generally stay away from romance in fics.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A one-time deal, you bastard.</p><p>Ask bona, he knows I generally stay away from romance in fics.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ishaan</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572272</link> <dc:creator>Ishaan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:47:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572272</guid> <description>Need I remind you who wrote the happy romantic walk scene between Tooru and Aiko?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need I remind you who wrote the happy romantic walk scene between Tooru and Aiko?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: terracannon876</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/21/siliconera-speaks-up-rules-for-reviewers/comment-page-1/#comment-572270</link> <dc:creator>terracannon876</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:39:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=39704#comment-572270</guid> <description>Yes, but now the argument is turning into a &quot;what makes good RPGs.&quot;  I agree with you that cinematics aren&#039;t what define a good game, but they do enhance it, so it&#039;s highly possible to have a game that excels in that department as well as others.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still doesn&#039;t say anything about the staleness of RPGs for you =P  I&#039;m still standing by my opinion that you need to play some other stuff.  Maybe take a break from RPGs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah, SH is published by Midway, although I think later by Azure?  I&#039;m not very clear on these things...  It&#039;s an excellent game =P  It&#039;s also one of the only games where I&#039;m a fan of the romance... because I&#039;m an unromantic clod.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but now the argument is turning into a &#8220;what makes good RPGs.&#8221;  I agree with you that cinematics aren&#39;t what define a good game, but they do enhance it, so it&#39;s highly possible to have a game that excels in that department as well as others.</p><p>Still doesn&#39;t say anything about the staleness of RPGs for you =P  I&#39;m still standing by my opinion that you need to play some other stuff.  Maybe take a break from RPGs?</p><p>Yeah, SH is published by Midway, although I think later by Azure?  I&#39;m not very clear on these things&#8230;  It&#39;s an excellent game =P  It&#39;s also one of the only games where I&#39;m a fan of the romance&#8230; because I&#39;m an unromantic clod.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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