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	<title>Comments on: Sony Patents A Motion Control System That Uses Ordinary Objects As Controllers</title>
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		<title>By: oldSCHOOLgamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldSCHOOLgamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree for the most part since i love both microsoft (software) and sony (hardware) equally but only microsoft has shipped out dev kits to all main game developers out there which means natal is ready and they actually had some of the press at E3 try it and even the movie stars came in skeptical and left wanting to buy it. even though these people only got to play natals tech demo they also got to try burnout paradise and there are vids to prove microsofts tech is ready for games on youtube and late night with jimmy fallon. so to me if it&#039;s that easy to configure burnout paradise to natal at a so called &quot;early stage&quot; than i&#039;m impressed since it&#039;s prolly beyond that and a good move microsoft aquiring hardware companies to expand in different areas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mind you i own a ps3 too (PSN ID:OLDschoolGAMER-1) but they&#039;re a little late on software tweaks like home still in beta and firmware updates. at least the ones people are looking forward to and request but end up just being rumors. so as far as sony i&#039;m just more into their games not their claims on how they plan on entering the casual market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree for the most part since i love both microsoft (software) and sony (hardware) equally but only microsoft has shipped out dev kits to all main game developers out there which means natal is ready and they actually had some of the press at E3 try it and even the movie stars came in skeptical and left wanting to buy it. even though these people only got to play natals tech demo they also got to try burnout paradise and there are vids to prove microsofts tech is ready for games on youtube and late night with jimmy fallon. so to me if it&#39;s that easy to configure burnout paradise to natal at a so called &#8220;early stage&#8221; than i&#39;m impressed since it&#39;s prolly beyond that and a good move microsoft aquiring hardware companies to expand in different areas.</p>
<p>mind you i own a ps3 too (PSN ID:OLDschoolGAMER-1) but they&#39;re a little late on software tweaks like home still in beta and firmware updates. at least the ones people are looking forward to and request but end up just being rumors. so as far as sony i&#39;m just more into their games not their claims on how they plan on entering the casual market.</p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically - sony has actually often been on the leading edge - and in many ways created superior products that the market was not ready for. We all know how the  VHS vs. Betamax battle ended - but the Betamax was a superior product which could not cope - actually due to the porn-industy selecting the VHS format.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A couple of years ago, i saw a Sony picture-frame, the first one i ever laid eyes on, but very few were sold - now, a few years later, the competition has hit the market, and now they are being sold everywhere.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sony this time played the Blue-Ray card, and against all prior history - they actually won over the HD-dvd - &#039;great&#039; one should think - but for some reason, the market is very slow to adopt the format.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I once read through some of the Sony company history - and the theme of being on the cutting edge and still not getting the sale was found many places.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally - i am getting sick of hearing &#039;fanboys&#039; always claiming the product they love is the best - Neither Natal nor the Sony cam controller has been released yet - only a somewhat simple demo of natal under their own control has been given. In stead of discussing which is better (lets face it - none of you actually know anything about any of the finished products other than what Microsoft and Sony want you to know) - lets all await the future, and hope they can live up to the hype!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally i hope both Sony and Microsoft stay in the market, and will continously keep compeeding - because that will keep prices down and will make sure the companies are always pushing the envelope, and thinking outside the box.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well - that was my thought..  flame away if you prefer..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: I own the xbox (first one) and PS3 (and psp) and will at all times buy the console i personally think is best instead of being a fan of any-one console.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically &#8211; sony has actually often been on the leading edge &#8211; and in many ways created superior products that the market was not ready for. We all know how the  VHS vs. Betamax battle ended &#8211; but the Betamax was a superior product which could not cope &#8211; actually due to the porn-industy selecting the VHS format.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, i saw a Sony picture-frame, the first one i ever laid eyes on, but very few were sold &#8211; now, a few years later, the competition has hit the market, and now they are being sold everywhere.</p>
<p>Sony this time played the Blue-Ray card, and against all prior history &#8211; they actually won over the HD-dvd &#8211; &#39;great&#39; one should think &#8211; but for some reason, the market is very slow to adopt the format.</p>
<p>I once read through some of the Sony company history &#8211; and the theme of being on the cutting edge and still not getting the sale was found many places.</p>
<p>Personally &#8211; i am getting sick of hearing &#39;fanboys&#39; always claiming the product they love is the best &#8211; Neither Natal nor the Sony cam controller has been released yet &#8211; only a somewhat simple demo of natal under their own control has been given. In stead of discussing which is better (lets face it &#8211; none of you actually know anything about any of the finished products other than what Microsoft and Sony want you to know) &#8211; lets all await the future, and hope they can live up to the hype!</p>
<p>Personally i hope both Sony and Microsoft stay in the market, and will continously keep compeeding &#8211; because that will keep prices down and will make sure the companies are always pushing the envelope, and thinking outside the box.</p>
<p>Well &#8211; that was my thought..  flame away if you prefer..</p>
<p>PS: I own the xbox (first one) and PS3 (and psp) and will at all times buy the console i personally think is best instead of being a fan of any-one console.</p>
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		<title>By: oldSCHOOLgamer</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/07/02/sony-patents-a-motion-control-system-that-uses-ordinary-objects-as-controllers/comment-page-1/#comment-573749</link>
		<dc:creator>oldSCHOOLgamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Urwrstnghtmr&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you answered your own question if you had one there...lol&lt;br&gt;i know microsoft is a software comp[any and i know microsoft aquired 3DV the company that is in charge of natal mostly see i did my research and i&#039;m a gamer first fanboy never since i own a ps3 as well. so to tell you the truth i&#039;m more excited for natal than any other motion sensing controller that&#039;s it not sony telling me they aquired a patent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;peace out fanboy next time you do your research before coming out the mouth and telling someone they don&#039;t know about what they own...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Urwrstnghtmr</p>
<p>you answered your own question if you had one there&#8230;lol<br />i know microsoft is a software comp[any and i know microsoft aquired 3DV the company that is in charge of natal mostly see i did my research and i&#39;m a gamer first fanboy never since i own a ps3 as well. so to tell you the truth i&#39;m more excited for natal than any other motion sensing controller that&#39;s it not sony telling me they aquired a patent. </p>
<p>peace out fanboy next time you do your research before coming out the mouth and telling someone they don&#39;t know about what they own&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: Sychotic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sychotic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like taking a christ his bible? OMG u need to come up with something better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like taking a christ his bible? OMG u need to come up with something better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sychotic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sychotic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would u want to have something to hold on to when u can actually be hands free and the fact that you can scan in your own objects like a skateboard or even your own tennis racket is pretty cool and Sony has definitely not invented that. We are talking about possibly not having remote controls ever again. Everything can be motion sensored or voice activated. Farkhyea! I reckon Sony is always one step behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would u want to have something to hold on to when u can actually be hands free and the fact that you can scan in your own objects like a skateboard or even your own tennis racket is pretty cool and Sony has definitely not invented that. We are talking about possibly not having remote controls ever again. Everything can be motion sensored or voice activated. Farkhyea! I reckon Sony is always one step behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Sychotic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sychotic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>natal 360 is better on so many levels! U don&#039;t need to use any objects. just ur own movements with no other objects are enough. check out natal xbox 360.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>natal 360 is better on so many levels! U don&#39;t need to use any objects. just ur own movements with no other objects are enough. check out natal xbox 360.</p>
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		<title>By: Natal Rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natal Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with oldSCHOOLgamer.  Think of it this way.  Motion sensors are used in houses or businesses and they don&#039;t keep their lights on at night.  For the most part motion sensors sense inferred (heat) that the body emits so you can be in a totally black room and it&#039;ll see you.  I&#039;m guessing though the camera may enhance the sensors, but since they&#039;re using sensors, they could use a camera that sees inferred as well so the cam could see you in the dark also.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not what technology MS is using but to answer your question yes the sensors will see you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with oldSCHOOLgamer.  Think of it this way.  Motion sensors are used in houses or businesses and they don&#39;t keep their lights on at night.  For the most part motion sensors sense inferred (heat) that the body emits so you can be in a totally black room and it&#39;ll see you.  I&#39;m guessing though the camera may enhance the sensors, but since they&#39;re using sensors, they could use a camera that sees inferred as well so the cam could see you in the dark also.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m not what technology MS is using but to answer your question yes the sensors will see you.</p>
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		<title>By: BpN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BpN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this better or new compared to Microsoft&#039;s Project Natal? Microsoft showed in their demo the capability to scan objects as well for in game use, so how is this a new feature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this better or new compared to Microsoft&#39;s Project Natal? Microsoft showed in their demo the capability to scan objects as well for in game use, so how is this a new feature?</p>
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		<title>By: nathanpprince</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathanpprince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You`ve finally found a way into homes! Congratulations! Humans are now identified visually inside their own domiciles, their actual public shared quarters are identified in 3 dimension, so they know what kind of lamp you ACTUALLY own (as opposed to falsifying those online surveys you fake your way through) and on top of that, by clicking &quot; Accept&quot; and not bothering to read the fine print, you become a more focused market research target because by not having a particular product in your living room, ads will be more specific to your email when you log on to the net.&lt;br&gt;Ingenious. I thought about this about 12 years ago and still noone believed me... now this is proof. About darn time.&lt;br&gt;Now BUY IT! run!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You`ve finally found a way into homes! Congratulations! Humans are now identified visually inside their own domiciles, their actual public shared quarters are identified in 3 dimension, so they know what kind of lamp you ACTUALLY own (as opposed to falsifying those online surveys you fake your way through) and on top of that, by clicking &#8221; Accept&#8221; and not bothering to read the fine print, you become a more focused market research target because by not having a particular product in your living room, ads will be more specific to your email when you log on to the net.<br />Ingenious. I thought about this about 12 years ago and still noone believed me&#8230; now this is proof. About darn time.<br />Now BUY IT! run!!</p>
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		<title>By: Teamtendo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teamtendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natal is an eyetoy plus that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speaking of pattents, anyone remember the dual-shock??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natal is an eyetoy plus that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera</a> </p>
<p>Speaking of pattents, anyone remember the dual-shock??</p>
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