<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: How Did Ubisoft Get Into Making Girl Games?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/</link> <description>The secret level in the world of video game news.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Joanna</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-609499</link> <dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:53:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-609499</guid> <description>while you are absolutely correct. I think the point was that statistically/stereotypically most girls are into RPGs, yet video game makers refuse to cater to girl gamers in any way. That is they continue to make protagonists male, and offer lots of fan service for males.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously your point was that this is still stereotypical, and I agree. I just think that the point of his/her assumption was that even in areas that are supposedly dominated by female gamers, there is no represented given to these gamers, which isn&#039;t right. Some games have started to remedy this like pokemon, but the vast majority still cater to male gamers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while you are absolutely correct. I think the point was that statistically/stereotypically most girls are into RPGs, yet video game makers refuse to cater to girl gamers in any way. That is they continue to make protagonists male, and offer lots of fan service for males.</p><p>Obviously your point was that this is still stereotypical, and I agree. I just think that the point of his/her assumption was that even in areas that are supposedly dominated by female gamers, there is no represented given to these gamers, which isn&#39;t right. Some games have started to remedy this like pokemon, but the vast majority still cater to male gamers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-609497</link> <dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-609497</guid> <description>and your point is? this doesn&#039;t excuse video games in any way. Just because x, y, and z are doing it, doesn&#039;t mean it is right.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and your point is? this doesn&#39;t excuse video games in any way. Just because x, y, and z are doing it, doesn&#39;t mean it is right.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-609500</link> <dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:46:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-609500</guid> <description>90% of the examples you listed have underlying assumptions about femininity in them, so yes they are sexist. This list wouldn&#039;t look so sexist if there was more variety in the occupations, but taken together it is pathetic. If they threw in inventor, chemist, architect, then this list wouldn&#039;t look sexist at all. Even Animal Doctor and Family Doctor though science oriented have underlying assumptions that these roles are nurturer roles and the feminine role is that of nurturer. Out of your list I see only 1 masculine occupation: detective. Those business owners own very feminine business like interior and wedding designer, so they don&#039;t really count.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of the examples you listed have underlying assumptions about femininity in them, so yes they are sexist. This list wouldn&#39;t look so sexist if there was more variety in the occupations, but taken together it is pathetic. If they threw in inventor, chemist, architect, then this list wouldn&#39;t look sexist at all. Even Animal Doctor and Family Doctor though science oriented have underlying assumptions that these roles are nurturer roles and the feminine role is that of nurturer. Out of your list I see only 1 masculine occupation: detective. Those business owners own very feminine business like interior and wedding designer, so they don&#39;t really count.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Holly Green</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-609498</link> <dc:creator>Holly Green</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:11:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-609498</guid> <description>They&#039;re &quot;treated as a joke&quot; and yet, you contribute to the pigeonholing by claiming that older girls are into slow RPGs and Sim type games. I for one love FPS. I also greatly enjoyed GTA Chinatown Wars on my white DS. Maybe instead of trying to make things specifically for females, and in doing so condescend us all, maybe they should focus more on including us in what&#039;s already available.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#39;re &#8220;treated as a joke&#8221; and yet, you contribute to the pigeonholing by claiming that older girls are into slow RPGs and Sim type games. I for one love FPS. I also greatly enjoyed GTA Chinatown Wars on my white DS. Maybe instead of trying to make things specifically for females, and in doing so condescend us all, maybe they should focus more on including us in what&#39;s already available.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna_T</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587535</link> <dc:creator>Joanna_T</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587535</guid> <description>while you are absolutely correct. I think the point was that statistically/stereotypically most girls are into RPGs, yet video game makers refuse to cater to girl gamers in any way. That is they continue to make protagonists male, and offer lots of fan service for males.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously your point was that this is still stereotypical, and I agree. I just think that the point of his/her assumption was that even in areas that are supposedly dominated by female gamers, there is no represented given to these gamers, which isn&#039;t right. Some games have started to remedy this like pokemon, but the vast majority still cater to male gamers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while you are absolutely correct. I think the point was that statistically/stereotypically most girls are into RPGs, yet video game makers refuse to cater to girl gamers in any way. That is they continue to make protagonists male, and offer lots of fan service for males.</p><p>Obviously your point was that this is still stereotypical, and I agree. I just think that the point of his/her assumption was that even in areas that are supposedly dominated by female gamers, there is no represented given to these gamers, which isn&#39;t right. Some games have started to remedy this like pokemon, but the vast majority still cater to male gamers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna_T</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587536</link> <dc:creator>Joanna_T</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:47:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587536</guid> <description>and your point is? this doesn&#039;t excuse video games in any way. Just because x, y, and z are doing it, doesn&#039;t mean it is right.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and your point is? this doesn&#39;t excuse video games in any way. Just because x, y, and z are doing it, doesn&#39;t mean it is right.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna_T</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587534</link> <dc:creator>Joanna_T</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:46:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587534</guid> <description>90% of the examples you listed have underlying assumptions about femininity in them, so yes they are sexist. This list wouldn&#039;t look so sexist if there was more variety in the occupations, but taken together it is pathetic. If they threw in inventor, chemist, architect, then this list wouldn&#039;t look sexist at all. Even Animal Doctor and Family Doctor though science oriented have underlying assumptions that these roles are nurturer roles and the feminine role is that of nurturer. Out of your list I see only 1 masculine occupation: detective. Those business owners own very feminine business like interior and wedding designer, so they don&#039;t really count.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of the examples you listed have underlying assumptions about femininity in them, so yes they are sexist. This list wouldn&#39;t look so sexist if there was more variety in the occupations, but taken together it is pathetic. If they threw in inventor, chemist, architect, then this list wouldn&#39;t look sexist at all. Even Animal Doctor and Family Doctor though science oriented have underlying assumptions that these roles are nurturer roles and the feminine role is that of nurturer. Out of your list I see only 1 masculine occupation: detective. Those business owners own very feminine business like interior and wedding designer, so they don&#39;t really count.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: winnersusedrugs</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587498</link> <dc:creator>winnersusedrugs</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587498</guid> <description>They&#039;re &quot;treated as a joke&quot; and yet, you contribute to the pigeonholing by claiming that older girls are into slow RPGs and Sim type games. I for one love FPS. I also greatly enjoyed GTA Chinatown Wars on my white DS. Maybe instead of trying to make things specifically for females, and in doing so condescend us all, maybe they should focus more on including us in what&#039;s already available.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#39;re &#8220;treated as a joke&#8221; and yet, you contribute to the pigeonholing by claiming that older girls are into slow RPGs and Sim type games. I for one love FPS. I also greatly enjoyed GTA Chinatown Wars on my white DS. Maybe instead of trying to make things specifically for females, and in doing so condescend us all, maybe they should focus more on including us in what&#39;s already available.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lyh Scully</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587438</link> <dc:creator>Lyh Scully</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:25:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587438</guid> <description>«« , i like ubisof really , but i hate this line of games , but its how DsI is advertised here in europe its a machine that takes pictures .... and has games for girls.Seriously all those tv adds make me puke ! O_O ubisof you got me on the 1st rayman , you got me on Assasins Creed and Prince of Persia , and im  sorry im not a male gamer XD ! and i HAVE a blue DS !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>«« , i like ubisof really , but i hate this line of games , but its how DsI is advertised here in europe its a machine that takes pictures &#8230;. and has games for girls.Seriously all those tv adds make me puke ! O_O ubisof you got me on the 1st rayman , you got me on Assasins Creed and Prince of Persia , and im  sorry im not a male gamer XD ! and i HAVE a blue DS !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kupomogli</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587406</link> <dc:creator>kupomogli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:17:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587406</guid> <description>This shouldn&#039;t be old news.  Ubisoft has been pushing out crap for awhile now.  If you ask me they&#039;re in the same league as EA.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shouldn&#39;t be old news.  Ubisoft has been pushing out crap for awhile now.  If you ask me they&#39;re in the same league as EA.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ShinNoKami</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587393</link> <dc:creator>ShinNoKami</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:24:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587393</guid> <description>...I have a dark blue DS and my friend&#039;s boyfriend has a pink one. Way to gender stereotype, Ubisoft. :&#124;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I have a dark blue DS and my friend&#39;s boyfriend has a pink one. Way to gender stereotype, Ubisoft. :|</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JeremyR</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587366</link> <dc:creator>JeremyR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:23:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587366</guid> <description>But if you look at the media as a whole, not just games, the same thing is done for music and movies and TV shows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Boy bands.  Oprah. Twilight (and basically every other vampire novel). Titantic. Hannah Montana. Why should games be any different?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you look at the media as a whole, not just games, the same thing is done for music and movies and TV shows.</p><p>Boy bands.  Oprah. Twilight (and basically every other vampire novel). Titantic. Hannah Montana. Why should games be any different?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JeremyR</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587365</link> <dc:creator>JeremyR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:19:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587365</guid> <description>I think you are overstating things. Out of all the Imagine games, how many are really sexist?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Animal Doctor, Baby Club, Baby Sitters, , Babyz, Ballet Star, Boutique Owner, Champion Rider, Cheerleader, Detective, Dream Wedding, Family Doctor, Fashion Designer (3 of them), Fashion Model, Figure Skater, Ice Champions, Interior Designer, Makeup Artist, Master Chef, Modern Dancer, Movie Star, Music Fest, Rock Star, Salon Stylist, Teacher, Wedding Designer, Artist, Babyz Fashion, Reporter, Party Planner, Soccer Captain, Teacher Class Trip, Zookeeper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what, 4 baby related ones and 2 teacher related ones, out of 36 games. Throw in Cheerleader. But there are some for doctors, police, owning their own business, etc. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Granted, might be nice if they had a few science ones.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are overstating things. Out of all the Imagine games, how many are really sexist?</p><p>Animal Doctor, Baby Club, Baby Sitters, , Babyz, Ballet Star, Boutique Owner, Champion Rider, Cheerleader, Detective, Dream Wedding, Family Doctor, Fashion Designer (3 of them), Fashion Model, Figure Skater, Ice Champions, Interior Designer, Makeup Artist, Master Chef, Modern Dancer, Movie Star, Music Fest, Rock Star, Salon Stylist, Teacher, Wedding Designer, Artist, Babyz Fashion, Reporter, Party Planner, Soccer Captain, Teacher Class Trip, Zookeeper.</p><p>That&#39;s what, 4 baby related ones and 2 teacher related ones, out of 36 games. Throw in Cheerleader. But there are some for doctors, police, owning their own business, etc.</p><p>Granted, might be nice if they had a few science ones.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pichi</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587357</link> <dc:creator>Pichi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:54:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587357</guid> <description>That would be ideal for many of the games out there, and they really should do this more often, as I think it would help as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Girl titles are just stuck in that doll/preteen or whatever way. I would love to play a more romantic sim game and things like that. Easy no brainer stuff that should be localized out of Japan to help in the expansion that way. I would like to see more of that Harvest Moon type of thing expanded more to other genres and for older audiences. Just more other genre types in general, and that&#039;s my main concern with the industry in general.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be ideal for many of the games out there, and they really should do this more often, as I think it would help as well.</p><p>Girl titles are just stuck in that doll/preteen or whatever way. I would love to play a more romantic sim game and things like that. Easy no brainer stuff that should be localized out of Japan to help in the expansion that way. I would like to see more of that Harvest Moon type of thing expanded more to other genres and for older audiences. Just more other genre types in general, and that&#39;s my main concern with the industry in general.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joanna_T</title><link>http://www.siliconera.com/2009/11/23/how-did-ubisoft-get-into-making-girl-games/comment-page-1/#comment-587354</link> <dc:creator>Joanna_T</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.siliconera.com/?p=52914#comment-587354</guid> <description>yeah I feel the same way. By making such blatantly sexist sim games (imagine babies, teacher....might as well include imagine housewife or personal slave...ah but I digress, these are just my humble opinions), the companies are just suggesting that girls really aren&#039;t into games unless those games ooze femininity. While real games are only for boys, and are masculine in nature.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah I feel the same way. By making such blatantly sexist sim games (imagine babies, teacher&#8230;.might as well include imagine housewife or personal slave&#8230;ah but I digress, these are just my humble opinions), the companies are just suggesting that girls really aren&#39;t into games unless those games ooze femininity. While real games are only for boys, and are masculine in nature.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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