A Remade Lighter Hunt

By Spencer . November 12, 2010 . 6:50pm


It’s doesn’t mean thank you, but it is ever so loosely related to Euclidian geometry…

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  • Okay…?

  • Has Spencer been hitting the sauce?

    • RupanIII

      Hahah.. the first time I saw one of these I had a similar reaction

  • PurpleDoom

    Methinks this is a puzzlenouncement. And once again, I have absolutely no idea what it could mean.

  • Ereek

    For the new posters, who obviously haven’t seen this before: Spencer likes to give out hints for upcoming unannounced titles in puzzle posts like these. The goal is to solve the puzzle/riddle and usually in a week or a few days we’ll get the answer, or the offical announcement.

    Anyways, I’m off to think about this one.

  • More vague every week.

    Oh well, you get :D Marona screengrab at least.

    • I think this is the most obvious one yet.

      • androvsky

        Is it just one game being teased here? The Phantom Brave screenshot makes it pretty obvious, but I don’t see how it fits the other clues.

      • SolidusSnake

        Ok, Phantom Brave PSP or nothing, I give up.

  • Geometry? As in shapes? Square is a shape, is it a game from Square? Am I on the right track here?

    • Ereek

      Euclidean Geometry has a lot to do with triangles.My first thought was about triangles, since the cute little monster, whose name I can’t remember off the top of my head, has a triangle hat.From there I thought “Trine 2 release date announcement.” Spencer did something similar with the KitN release date announcement, so it’s possible.Eh, I know I’m stretching it, but I don’t have time to think about it right now. I’m not very good at these anyway, unless one just randomly pops out at me. I’m sure someone will be able to get it before I even have time to scratch the surface of a more intelligent guess.

      • malek86


        But… no, that can’t be it.

  • darkonezero

    Are they remaking Phantom Brave again? That would be a bit too obvious….

  • maybe a squeal ?

  • I could be wrong here, but I have a feeling the ‘lighter hunt’ relates to Persona 2 in some way since that as an item of importance to the main character.

    But with all of the news about that on the site and the general popularity of Persona over here, it seems fairly obvious that a localization announcement is soon…

    • MizuMikomi

      Spencer said above you that it has nothing to do with persona-anything.
      So thats one series completely marked off the list. =/

      • Damn these puzzlenouncements, always so tricky…

  • Has to be Persona 2 Innocent Sin PSP (remake) and Tatsuya’s lighter he’s constantly playing with :3

    Can’t wait for the announcement :D! One of my favorite games ever!

    • I don’t want to crush anyone, but this has nothing to do with Persona-anything! Sorry :(

      • Haha, no worries, Spencer :) I don’t doubt that it will be announced at a future point in time anyway ;)

  • SneakyHawk

    Okay, I’m gonna take a stab at it:

    Phantom Brave Portable announcement?

    • PurpleDoom

      Like darkonezero said, that would be too obvious. NISA are focusing their efforts on PS3 anyway, and considering fan reaction I doubt they’re going to do many more localizations of ports, especially of a game that was released in Wii form just last year. I hope it’s an announcement for the PSP version of Persona 2, like others have been speculating.

      • Locklear93

        I’d be more open to localizations of ports if the port wasn’t of the single worst NIS game I’ve ever played. :/ I adore NIS, and bought the Wii version anyway, but won’t bother playing it. Phantom Brave had the best music of any NIS title, in my opinion, and the worst gameplay. :/

        La Pucelle Ragnarok is what I want, badly, but if Mastiff is in the way… bleh, Mastiff, why do they even still exist, seriously? :P Guess I’ll just keep importing La Pucelle figures at silly prices.

        • Phantom Brave had the worst gameplay? I found it easy to get a handle on, myself, and actually managed to finish the entire game– though admittedly, it was also months after I had gotten it.

          Personally I think NIS SRPG games work best on a portable. I don’t think I’d have been able to beat Disgaea or Disgaea 2 on the PS2. I think Phantom Brave’d be easier to swallow for a lot of people if it were coming out here on the PSP.

          Myself? I’m kinda looking forward to a Soul Nomad port or a Makai Kingdom remake (Remake I state, since the game itself sorta screamed “lower budget at the time”)

          • Locklear93

            I did find it had the worst, yeah. I really wanted to like it, but I HATED the confine system with a passion. I didn’t like the gridless very much either, but confine absolutely ruined it for me, mainly because of how a unit, once the confine broke, was gone for the rest of the map. Makai Kingdom’s system worked vastly better for me. Put a unit in an object, and it STAYED.I can definitely see the appeal of portable versions of NIS titles, and I buy those as well, but I don’t personally need portables. I’m always either at work, or home. I buy games for portables to support NIS, or because they’re native to the PSP (Prinny, etc.).And yes, Makai Kingdom was absolutely lower budget. The back of the DoubleJump strategy guide for it contained an interview with the producer, who stated that Makai Kingdom was done in 6 months, and their games usually take a year. That’s also why Makai Kingdom featured a variety of composers, instead of just one.

          • See, I couldn’t get into Makai Kingdom’s gameplay, conversely. It’s been harder for me to really play, and I’ve gotten a few chapters in. Maybe I’m just weird like that– I think NIS at least had something cool with that, with trying something different from their Disgaea-style SRPG mechanics.

            I try to buy any NIS-made games anymore if I can, since yeah, they need the support. I got ZHP as soon as it was out, plan on getting Prinny 2, and I’ve even started getting more Gust things as well. (Atelier Rorona was a pre-order purchase, and I’ve played through most of Mana Khemia on the PSP despite loading issues)

            Makai Kingdom had the issue also of actually being an entirely different thing– namely a test engine for Asagi’s game, Makai Wars. It ended up getting scrapped, so they just used the remnants for a different game. It’s why I kinda hope that if Makai Kingdom gets a current-gen rerelease, it gets revamped more than the basic NIS port.

          • I couldn’t play a game like Disgaea on a portable. With a long, involved RPG or SRPG, I need to be able to sit down in front of a tv for hours and get into it. Just playing while riding back and forth on the subway wouldn’t work for me.

          • Generally I play my games at home too– just playing in front of a TV sometimes tends to be difficult for me, or might require a lot more set-up for the system, or I might be at a different house instead due to circumstances. Portable tends to be a lot easier as a result since that’s easiest to have.

          • Exkaiser

            I’m the other way around. I find it easier to focus on RPGs and SRPGs when I can pick them up and put them down at any time. Really, though, I’ve found myself moving away from playing games on TVs in general.

            It’s why I’ve finished every portable SRW I own, but only one console one.

  • Obviously we’ll finally be getting La Pucelle Ragnarok, since why show an NIS game if it’s for Persona 2 instead?


    • PurpleDoom

      I remember hearing that NISA outright stated that they weren’t going to do La Pucelle: Ragnarok. They like being tricky with these, and I think the hint is probably more in the picture itself than it is that the picture was from an NIS game.

      • What, really? Curses. =/ I’m pretty sad that the game’s been outright stated to not be done, but… oh well.

        Who knows what this is, then.

        • Zeik56

          I’m pretty sure it’s because they can’t do it. I believe Mastiff still owns the US rights to La Pucelle, so they’d have to get the rights from them before they’d be allowed to localize a remake.

          • Yeah, I know about the Mastiff issues. Which is a right shame– it’s not like they’re going to do anything with the rights at this point, themselves. I think it also more has to do with getting the voice rights from them, too, since without that, it’d be too much of a hassle to bring over a port.

            On the other hand, I half-suspect NISAmerica isn’t into any games that might even be remotely related to the Marl Kingdom series, at this point– after all, Rhapsody DS was a pretty bad port, and La Pucelle’s basically supposed to be a ~*future*~ setting of the series.

          • cj_iwakura

            If Mastiff aren’t going to localize it, they’re obligated to give the rights to someone who will.

          • I agree really– and NISA could probably challenge Mastiff for the rights, since they’re connected to NIS, the developer of the game, but I think it comes down to: Is it worth it? Will people buy it if we do? Will sales reach expectations?

            Especially considering the PSP’s rampant piracy issues, NISAmerica’s pretty edgy about releasing things with high expectations onto it, which is why their main releases tend to be on a console instead. I’m just glad we got ZHP and Cladun considering it.

            It’d also cost more money to get La Pucelle from Mastiff, and also to pay the voice actors for licensing their voice work again, and maybe even voicing the new chapters– overall, it’d cost more money for a system that isn’t as viable for a good return revenue for the effort put in. It’s why like, instead, Phantom Brave: We Meet Again managed to get it’s new content voiced, because the Wii isn’t as easily pirate-able as the PSP. I think the only chance that we’d get the portable version for that is because everything has literally been voiced and done with already.

            I, myself, would buy La Pucelle Ragnarok in a heartbeat, but I realize overall what the business standpoint to this is.

  • Yusaku_Matsuda70s

    I can never guess what these are. The only one that was ever apparent to me was that Magical Drop one.

    • Aoshi00

      Me neither, and using 10% of 10% of my brain doesn’t help *.*.. I forgot, has most of Spence’s puzzlennoucement been about PSN games? Graces F would be pretty awesome and make everyone’s Thanksgiving that much better.

      • PurpleDoom

        Most of them have, but the first one was about Ys Seven, so not all of them have been.

      • Yusaku_Matsuda70s

        Yea, pretty sure they were always PSN games. If it covered an even wider spectrum of releases then my chances of getting it right would go into negative.

  • mach

    My guess is that we’ll find out in a week anyway, so puzzle posts like these are just annoying, especially since it’s not like we get to find out sooner if someone happens to guess the right answer.

    • You’re welcome to skip them. I think having a game with information that wouldn’t be shared otherwise is kinda need for the weekend, but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion.

      Also, this announcement may not come for awhile…

      • SolidusSnake

        aw damn, that means we’re gonna be suffering for awhile. I’m completely stumped on this one although some of the speculation is pretty amusing :S

      • vadde939

        Not for a while? I guess its speculation time! I doubt I’ll ever guess this but thanks for posting it. I do love me a good mystery.

  • Think I got it. Totally out of left field if it’s what I think it is.

    • androvsky

      So, were you thinking what I was thinking, or is it a different left field? :) I’m wondering if there’s possibly three games at play here; Persona 2 with the “Remade Lighter Hunt” title, Phantom Brave Portable with the screenshot, and Tales of Graces with the article text.

      • MizuMikomi

        Tales of Grace F would be nice, no?

  • androvsky

    Okay, Graces refers to three Greek goddesses… a triad, or triangle, if you will. There’s your ever so loose Euclidean reference, and Graces does sound like it means “thank you”. The Phantom Brave screenshot is because NISA is the one localizing it… and for the “Maybe that means thank you?” quote.

    It’s fun being evil, no?

    • MizuMikomi

      If it is Tales of graces, I will take back every harsh comment I have ever made about Scamdai. If not, I will likely continue to bash the crap out of them every chance I get, all the while importing their Tales games…. LOL

    • *epic jawdrop*

    • PurpleDoom

      Since it’s not Persona, please let it be this!

    • Considering that NISA are focusing on the PS3, if you are right, and this means NISA are localizing Tales of Graces F, I think I may actually explode from happiness.

    • nyoron

      And the “remade” refers to Graces F, and Marona’s voice actress Kaori Mizuhashi was Norma in Tales of Legendia and Ash’s voice actor Hiro Shimono was Emil in Tales of Symphonia 2 and Phantom Brave is about summoning the dead so they will be summoning the Tales franchise which is dead outside of Japan and

      (Don’t do this to yourselves guys)

    • Interesting deduction, but no, sorry! Don’t want to get your hopes up! The title is an anagram though and whatever this game is its currently slated for March.

      • PurpleDoom

        Darn! But thanks for the hint.

  • Phantom brave 3DS, Phantom brave 2, or phantom brave is coming to PSN would be my guesses :S a side note hi this is my first post xD

    • SolidusSnake


    • RupanIII


  • makai kingdom comeback

  • no idea besides phantom brave

  • can i ask for a hint? is it from NISA?

  • nyoron

    The title is clearly an anagram.

    I’m ready for “Her Adult Hentai Germ”, the eroge where you see how long you can last before contracting an STD.

    • How about “Lighthearted Manure”? a game based on the current anime season

      • Locklear93

        Aww, c’mon now, Otome Yokai Zakuro is good…

      • nyoron

        Wow, harsh but nicely done!I’m enjoying God Only Knows and Index at least… and Oreimo. YMMV of course.

      • Exkaiser

        But Star Driver, SRWOG: The Inspector, and Digimon Xros Wars are all great! I’m really enjoying this season.

        Well, okay, it’s a good season for mechs. I don’t know anything about other genres, since I’m not watching anything else, though I was thinking of checking out Psychic Detective Yakumo.

        • yeah, SRW:OG is exceptional, I just couldnt pass up the joke :D

  • Finalstar2007

    I’ll be really happy if the announcement is for a Tales title coming in English for PS3

  • nyrjin

    I might be seeing things that aren’t there (I’m bad about that). But I’m thinking Persona 2 for a few reasons,
    The word remade is straightforward. Persona 2 IS’s story as far as I remember was generally a little lighter than EP (compare the jokers or what they’re “hunting”)
    If you know the cause and effect between the two games, I could see it applying to the idea of the Parallel Postulate of Euclidean geometry.
    And maybe the cause events between the two games were a form of thank you.

    Wild but thought out guess.

    • Ereek

      Spencer already said it wasn’t Persona 2, though.Still, a thought out guess is better than none at all. Who knows, maybe you’ll give someone else an idea?

      • nyrjin

        Yeah, I actually noticed that a moment after I commented. I have to look at the comments more carefully, rather than be in my own head at all hours of the day. Thanks for making sure other people know I’m wrong though (I’m not trying to be sarcastic I actually mean that).

  • Phantom Brave PSP, but the screenshot is taken from the Wii remake, though.

  • Gestahl

    Okay, here’s my theory: “thank you” (or “san kyuu”) is how you can pronounce 39 in Japanese. But the other way you can pronounce 39 is.. Miku! Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA announcement incoming! ^_^

    I’m sure I’m wrong and it’s some PSP-remake from NISA, though.

    • Love your thinking!

      I’m thinking it’s a confirmation of the localization of Phantom Brave Portable.

      • PurpleDoom

        Spencer mentioned the title was an anagram, and if it’s an anagram for the game’s title as I’m assuming it is, it wouldn’t be Phantom Brave. Plus, I doubt they would just throw a screenshot in there with some random comments as red herrings.

        • I saw that after I commented. XD But i was too lazy to seek out my comment and click the edit button.

          I still wouldn’t be surprised to hear about a Phantom Brave Portable release.

  • Hopefully Phantom Brave Portable >_< I want mah Hero Prinny…

  • [The Hunter] Doomrider

    It’s a remake… For a lighter platform… Of a game about hunts. Am I doing it right?=PNow, Euclidian geometry… Plane-Separation Postulate, or PSP. A remake on Plane-Separation Postulate of some game made by NIS. Yeah?

  • I think it’s Tales of Graces as well.
    It’s a remake from the Wii to the PS3. By lighter it means, many bugs were eradicated since too many bugs would cause the game to be heavy somewhat. Even after the recall, the Wii was unable to fix most of the bugs. The hunt part means they’re on a mission to negotiate with Namdai. Who knows if the hunt will turn out well or if they will continue the hunt until they’ve shot Namdai to the ground. Graces doesn’t mean thank you, but you do somewhat say it as a short prayer/thank you before/after a meal. I’m going to go with what androvsky said about the eg reference.

    If it’s not that, then wild guesses that have nothing to do with the hints around this page…my guess would be Atelier Totori.

  • You know, when it’s not Tales of Graces F, I’m going to get all sad and bitter at everyone who made me hopeful. lol

  • Dunno about the “remade” part, but my first thought was of Monster Hunter Portable 3rd getting a international release…?

    • PurpleDoom

      That fits the title like a charm, but I dunno how that would relate to the picture and the text beneath.

  • LastFootnote

    What ever happened to that hitchhiking game? GameFAQs still has it slated for 2010.

  • PurpleDoom

    Say, someone mentioned that Euclidean Geometry has a lot to do with triangles, and Spencer mentioned the title was an anagram. I checked, and you can in fact spell “triangle” with the letters provided…. ringing any bells? Am I on the right track here?

  • Lacry

    Mana Khemia 2 Portable

  • Exkaiser

    A Remade Lighter Hunt…

    …Medarot Triangle.

    Obviously it means three Medarot games are being localized. -Obviously-.

  • TeyNyan

    “Diarrhea Helm Net Tug”

    That can’t be right…

  • Anagram = A lighthearted return.
    Euclidian geometry deals with triangles a lot = tri-Ace.
    Radiata Stories, developed by tri-Ace, was lighthearted and key staff members are making a return with Radiant Historia.
    Phantom Brave is a Nippon Ichi title.
    NISA is localizing Radiant Historia. Of course, A Remade Lighter Hunt, if taking the first letter of each word could be scrambled to mean Atlus Localizes Radiant Historia. I hope I’m wrong about NISA, as I would prefer Atlus.
    But yeah, Radiant Historia is being localized by either Atlus or NISA. What’s my prize?

    • And I just realized my anagram has one too many r’s. Oh well.

      • PurpleDoom

        If anyone localizes Radiant Historia, it’s gonna be Atlus. The only connection to tri-Ace one could make from that is that Radiant Historia is the sequel to the tri-Ace developed Radiata Stories, as you’ve already pointed out – I just think that would be a little too obscure a hint.

  • Ok, I’ll throw in some postulation here.

    Spencer’s said that A) the title is an anagram, and B) whatever it is, it’s currently scheduled for March.

    With that in mind, it’s possible to make THREE EIGHT from the title. 3/8/2011 happens to fall on a Tuesday, which would make it the perfect date for a game release. Unfortunately, I can’t figure out what to make out of the rest of the letters. ARMADLUN. You can make ALUNDRA, LUNAR, and MARL with those letters, but there are some left over in each case. Maybe someone else can see something I can’t. Or maybe I’m on completely the wrong track.

    • … So it’s either gonna be an Alundra remake, the next Lunar game for the PSP, or we’re finally getting some Marl Kingdom going here– maybe Rhapsody for the PSP?!

      Actually I’d be good with all three.

      I think your guess has the most thought put into what the hint was– I couldn’t figure out anything from the anagram personally. But man, I hope you’re right.

      • PurpleDoom

        I got Lunar as well, though I couldn’t finish writing out “Eternal Blue” so I scrapped that thought. The Marl series seems to be largely ignored here, so I wouldn’t put my hopes on that, and Alundra got a PSN release here just last month, and I have doubts that Matrix is planning on whipping up another one all of a sudden. I honestly have no idea what this could be…

        • The fact that the Marl series has been generally ignored will make me sad for ages. And hope that the copy of Rhapsody (PS1) I’m being sent actually arrives eventually.

          Considering that there’s going to be a five month wait still until the actual release, Alundra wouldn’t be all that surprising. I think a six-month gap’s pretty good for it.

          Lunar would be nice, but like you said, can’t get Eternal Blue out of the anagram, or even the hints…

          One just never knows until an official announcement actually comes. At least there’s been a pretty active response to the speculation.

  • I’ll just take a shot in the dark and guess either Atelier Totori or Atelier Judie for PSP only on the assumption that whatever this upcoming game is (or it could be one of the two DS Atelier games Lise or Lina), it’ll be a NIS game.

  • Pichi

    I got a Gradius for a weird answer.

  • Give us a hint, Spencey :(

  • nyoron

    So this got posted on NeoGAF…http://www.play-asia.com/Phantom_Brave_Heroes_of_Hermuda_Triangle/paOS-13-71-b9-49-en-70-41kl.htmlI actually spent more time trying to sovle the anagram than I care to admit, and I gave up when I realized that it must had a made up word/name in it and I wouldn’t be able to guess. Although Urban Dictionary has an interesting definition for Hermuda Triangle.

    • Pichi

      That looks to be it. I’m happy, will get it as soon as I can for the extra content and such. Glad to see NISA brining it here. Hope they do other ones like La Pucelle if possible.

    • I suppose the secret might be out.If you rearrange the anagram title you might see something similar…
      And you may see this game around the 18th of some month….

      • nyoron

        Oh yeah I know now it’s “The Hermuda Triangle”. At one point I had pulled out “triangle” but didn’t know what to do with the rest.

        • That was the geometry clue. The original clue was it’s not the Triforce, but the shape of it. I nixed it since I thought it would throw people off even more.

          While related, the title may have been a red herring of sorts hehehe

    • M’iau M’iaut

      Ya it’s awful hard to play with any online anagram generator or work it yourself when one of the words is that made up. I’d started with the capital “AR” but of course could not make Ar Tonelico Qoga out of the rest. Hope to crap that gets solicited soon, if the Jan-Feb window is still gonna happen.Of course I’ll buy this one, but sad we getting confirmation of what will basically be a third port before say Princess Antiphonia’s Hymm……maybe we should start making anagrams of that one, so Spencer can’t trick us again!

    • YAY! I knew it >_> (or maybe I just hoped for it xD)

  • I know it’s most definately not, but I notice the anagram does have enough for “Triangle HEart” in there… and I’d really love to more english Nanoha…

  • It’s Phantom Brave: The Hermuda Triangle

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