What Third Party Developers Had To Say About NGP

By Spencer . January 27, 2011 . 1:45am

photo7After Sony Computer Entertainment showed off Uncharted and Hot Shots Golf Next, third party developers took the stage at PlayStation Meeting 2011 to talk about their plans for NGP.

 

Capcom

Jun Takeuchi played Monster Hunter Portable 3rd on NGP and showed a realtime rendering demonstration of Lost Planet 2. "MT Framework is Capcom’s gaming engine… and we are getting ready for NGP as well." No titles were announced, but Capcom plans on announcing new games for NGP.

 

Sega

Toshihiro Nagoshi showed a realtime rendering demo of Yakuza 4 with the PlayStation 3 shaders. Nagoshi is interested in developing for the system’s "networked game experience." No specific titles were announced.

 

Tecmo Koei

Akihiro Suzuki showed a Warriors game running on NGP where he defeated enemy units by touching them. This concept also had a touch screen musou attack. "Those are all ideas, but we’ll be experimenting with that. I’m sure we’ll be able to develop a title that looks and feels different than in the past."

 

Konami

Hideo Kojima took the stage with a clip of Metal Gear Solid 4 running on NGP. This was not an announcement of a port, just a demo.

 

"When we launched Peace Walker for PSP, this is what I said: In the near future there will be a world of cloud computing… I really believe that you can have a portable MGS and Peace Walker was an experiment for the cloud computing future. NGP allows this cloud computing. What I’d like to realize is playing on your PS3, and when you go out, you put the game on your NGP, and when you come back home, you can once again use your PS3 and large screen TV. This dream is going to come true in the near future. And right now, I’m working on this project of the dream. I’m sorry, I can’t reveal this now. But we’d like to present what we’re doing at E3."

 

Epic Games

Tim Sweeny showed a demo of Unreal Engine 3 on NGP and a game called Dungeon Defenders. "This is made possible by Sony’s multi-core GPU… which is roughly 4x as powerful as any portable we’ve previously seen," and later "We’re very excited and think you’ll be stunned at what’s possible on Sony’s next generation portable platform."

 

Activision

Philip Earl announced a Call of Duty game for NGP. "We believe that NGP will change the way people play games on the go, and what better way to prove that, than with Call of Duty."

"We believe Call of Duty for NGP will set the bar for the next generation of portable gaming. When considering the OLED screen, dual analog sticks, touch screens, and social connectivity options, the possibilities are endless"


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  • http://twitter.com/BurstDragon Kush クシュ

    Could Kojima’s “taboo game” be this cloud computing game he’s working on?

    • Kai2591

      hmm….good point…

  • Balmung

    Wow this is just looking better and better. In one day sony have jst pwned nintendo up the a** then tossed them into the gutter. Im liking the sound of the mgs game awwww im jst so excited!!!

    • PurpleDoom

      As a hardware device? Yes. They’ve still got a looooong way to go in terms of the software library, not to mention that it’s not back-compatible with UMDs.

      Not hating, I’m pretty hyped for the system myself, but “pwned” is definitely the wrong term here.

      I do concede that the list of developers working with the system is looking pretty awesome right now… but so is Nintendo’s.

      • Testsubject909

        I’m a bit irate it’s not compatible with UMDs, but it’s not so tragic.

        I still have a PSP, so I don’t really mind. And it’s still backward compatible with the games in digital format, which I’ll be getting for a few games anyhow.

        The console also just had a reveal, there’s still plenty of time to announce more upcoming titles or launch titles and since we’ve already had rumors and confirmations that developers had PSP2 dev kits since last year, there might be a few good games coming up on launch. (But I’m the type to wait for price drops for new consoles/handhelds. So it won’t matter too much for me what games are on launch. I’m more of the long term kind of guy.)

        Right now. I see both sides having their own merits, and both sides being capable of both flopping horribly or creating truly unique and wonderful games.

        But I also don’t give much of a damn about stereoscopic 3D, so it’s not a big selling point for me, thus making it that I’m measuring the 3DS’s worth on it’s 2D and non-stereoscopic 3D games, which are impressive still. (I don’t bite into the shiny and new so easily comparatively to others. If it’s properly applied, then yes. I’ll enjoy it, but I won’t automatically rave and state it’s the way of the future. Guess I’m a bit pragmatic that way, even though it’s supposed to be one of my lesser traits. I’m supposedly far more idealistic. Though one could argue that proper usage of pragmatism is in itself an idealistic dream considering today’s society and our near future.)

        The PSP2 to me has quite a few nice features that could do very well. But the boosted powers of the 3DS with an already solid implementation of touch-screen (when developers aren’t being dunce), is pretty good too.

        That said…

        I don’t have much trust in developers who aren’t capable of remembering gaming of days old, taking a step back to take two steps forward, and move camera control to the FREAKING L and R buttons… Sure, you lose two buttons. But those two buttons could be remapped to the FREAKING ANALOG.

        ZHP is a good example of the proper usage of camera control. And yes, I know, some games would require you to aim up and down, but at least action games could make use of that as opposed to the claw with smart zoom-outs if/when required… I’m not pointing any fingers. But those games with retarded camera control, you know who you are.

        That said. I also hope they don’t abuse the “shine of new gimmicks” too much with either consoles. I know it’ll be done, the games will feel more like tech demos then actual fun games and we’ll suffer through this sort of dreg for a few months until they’ve done all their learning and finally apply it properly with moderation as a feature and weave it properly in the gameplay, as opposed to the crutch they lean upon to sell the game…

        But there’s hope. They’ve had that period of time with the DS’s original launch… Maybe they’ve learned NOT to abuse gimmicks… maybe.

    • alundra311

      The only way for this to “pwn” Nintendo is if it prints money. ;)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf99B_PQRUY

      • PurpleDoom

        But… but… the 3DS doesn’t have a GBA slot! How could it possibly do that?!

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          It flies out from the 3D screen.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472407455 Charles Lupula

            But it’s only a 3D illusion of money.

        • alundra311

          With Nintendo, we will never know.

      • Testsubject909

        *imitates a Hiimdaisy Psshaaaww*

        Print Money with the 3DS? Bah, why do that when you can just fill up your bank account online with the PSP2/NGP?

        I’d imagine that’d be an interesting argument.

        Physical format of money that’s technically just a measure of debt from the government to your own person, making that said item is still governmental property and thus cannot be destroyed without their consent anyhow as it’s technically not yours despite your ownership of the item as per state laws.

        Or the Digital format of money that’s technically just a measure of debt from the government to your own person that’s accessible via other means that can provide you the same services as the physical format without the actual entertainment of being able to slap someone with bills of money, but can process the transaction all the more rapidly.

        ….

        FIGHT!
        *Starts the mortal kombat theme song*

        [edit]
        PS. Alundra, good game, loved it.

        • alundra311

          *brain broke* O_o

          Fatality

          Reply to [edit]
          Alundra is one of my best and favorite game of all time, so awesome. (If your referring to the actual Alundra game)

  • http://twitter.com/BurstDragon Kush クシュ

    I know the system great specs but if they mess up the price then it’s going to get bad I just hope it’s less than $400. Who know maybe we’ll get Versus Portable and Kingdom Hearts 3D2: Drop Down Dead.

    • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

      Well they said their aiming for affordability and will take a loss on the system, so it is most likely going to be under $299, dattebayo!! Its just gotta be.

      • Ren

        I doubt it. $299 is pretty much the lowest point they can probably charge. Any lower and the NPG may do more damage than good with it’s sales. Sony still profits only from software with the PS3.

        • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

          I thought they said they make a tiny bit of profit on each ps3 sold?

          • Ren

            I can’t vouch for the validity of this information, but the last time I heard about it, both the PS3 and the 360 were being sold under an actual profitable price. I don’t know wherether this still holds true or not, I would like if someone with more knowledge about this could enlighten us.

          • Testsubject909

            Hmm?

            Oh, PS3 manufacturing costs and etc versus sales costs?

            A long while back, Sony finally broke even between the sales of the console and the cost for making it/shipping it.

            That was quite a while back. By now, they should be making some profit off of every sold consoles.

            Someone with better knowledge about computer specs could possibly tell us more about what this would theoretically cost to manufacture on a purely theoretical stage with a wide view on which GPU it’s utilizing or what it would cost for a portable GPU that has the, roughly, same graphical power as the PS3…

            anyho.

  • http://twitter.com/Megawarrior345 Elle

    Metal Gear Solid ….Monster Hunter, Uncharted, Yakuza…..I’m sold.

    • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

      Wow youve been sold Day before 1, lol. Uncharted is instant Win for me!

      • Guest

        You’re already sold

        • Testsubject909

          He’s always sold.

  • kupomogli

    “We believe that NGP will change the way people play games on the go, and what better way to prove that, than with Call of Duty.”

    After seeing this announcement a friend of mine stated the PSP2 has already won. Obviously a joke but still funny. 20 million users go online only to either have the game freeze on them or complain about every other user camping nonstop.

    • http://myfigurecollection.net/collection/ashgail Ashgail

      It’s sad that I have to agree with that statement. I just hope that NGP won’t be turned into a beefcake portable.

    • Testsubject909

      *Plays Demon’s Souls. Gets killed, over and over and over again. Rage.*

      “Why do you play the game?”
      “Because. it’s hard and it’s fun.”

      Of course, that whole statement I just did isn’t exactly the same as campers, that’s just an annoying gaming strategy. It does work but it’s a bit irritating.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P5I5ZDAC5VTHUOOLMEGGS7S2MY Shinsu Yokoshimi

    Sooo, like what? This is a portable PS3 handheld?

    • Kai2591

      I’m wondering about that too…If NGP = PS3 in terms of power and performance…..then that is just unbelievably awesome..

  • http://twitter.com/gabriel_may_uk Gabriel May

    Leave it to Kojima to give us the most in-depth answer. I swear when this man gets a hold of new technology he must get more giddy then all the kids at Christmas combined.

    • http://twitter.com/BurstDragon Kush クシュ

      You said it.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Yea, Kojima certainly had the most interesting forecast of any developer at this event. That’s a really neat feature, too…being able to take your game out with you whenever you want, then come back home and plug it into your TV. It also means cross-platform multiplayer, which is super-exciting for stuff like Wipeout, Motorstorm etc.

  • capristrider

    WTF! MGS4 and Yakuza 4 shown running on NGP!

  • alundra311

    Does Kojima mean that you can access your PS3 data like a server using the NGP so you can continue playing your game anywhere via the internet as long as the PS3 and NGP are online? Or is he just referring to transferring save data to the NGP and vice versa through a local or peer-to-peer connection not through the internet? If it’s the latter, it doesn’t seem like cloud computing to me. But then again, I’m not that well-versed in cloud computing, so maybe I’m missing something.

  • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

    Call of Duty, if its as addictive to play as say, Modern Warfare 2 and online, then, well it will be a stunning experience! But ultimately, would I really want to buy two copies of a game, one on PS3 and one on this system?

    • Testsubject909

      Um… Call of Duty IS modern warfare 2…

      It is called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for a reason.

      Brain fart moment?

      • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

        I was simply stating that if this Call of Duty thats in development for the 3DS is as addictive as Modern Warfare 2 was, then I would be game for it.

  • darkfox1

    So now i want to make my Judgement on this system….It’s a PORTABLE PS3….. Now whether thats good or bad idk might end up jus getting a PS3 instead :)

  • Tokyo Guy

    …So basically this is a portable PS3, seemingly with a bunch of PS3 ports heading its way.

    It certainly seems like Sony has given these developers advanced notice of the PSP2, though the question remains if they have development kits and whatnot.

    • Testsubject909

      That’s… kind of old news.

      Remember the leaked PSP2 dev kit article from the makers of Mortal Kombat?

      And they weren’t the only ones to hint at actually having a PSP2 dev kit. Actually, they were the only ones to blatantly go out and say “We have one. We’re excited.”

      • Tokyo Guy

        Ah, actually I didn’t remember that. But my point was that if/since these companies HAVE had development kits (and presumably for some time now), why is it that they can’t show actual products? It’s always tech demos from already made things.

        Granted that’s great in terms of showing off hardware, but-especially with the 3DS on the horizon-I think a lot of people want to see GAMES. Then again, this was an industry/insider conference and not a public unveiling thus perhaps I’m out of line here.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472407455 Charles Lupula

      Why wouldn’t they have development kits?

  • tubers

    Wait, Kojima.

    Are you saying that MGS: Rising will be on NGP? I can see it work xD

    slice, slice.. *swipe* *swipe*

    *adjust slicing angles via gyro*

    :D

  • http://lonestudio.net Albert Van Otto

    ok is this just me, or kojima have the same Idea as me for Cloud Gaming?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472407455 Charles Lupula

    What Kojima is saying is EXACTLY what I would need to finally take the plunge into portable gaming. If this is as powerful as a PS3, then let’s hope that the majority of games for this thing ALSO come out on PS3, so instead of, say, the Valkyria Chronicles 2 & 3 situation, it comes out on both, so and because of the functionality of the portable with the home system, I want to play on both.

    Of course, then I’ll never get anything done and be playing videogames 24/7, but still…

    • Kai2591

      VC games on both systems? I like that~
      Lol that would be like giving Sega no choice BUT to make HD VCs. Perfect~

  • PrinceHeir

    love the design, just waiting for more games to be announced. sucks it’s only DDL BC but hopefully sony and other developers can put their old UMD games on the PSN store. MGS Acid games and T3B i think don’t have PSN versions yet

    • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

      Where did you get Download Only from? It says from the specs: Software titles on small, dedicated flash memory-based cards.

      • PrinceHeir

        im talking about the PSP1 games(sorry for misunderstanding), it says in the other article that it has BC support for PSP1 games(only DDL) they’ve even demonstrated Monster Hunter Portable 3rd on NGP(you can even use the right analog stick for camera view)

        even though im glad it’s still getting supported, i still want physical media since the boxart and manual are a plus(even though you can read the PDF file)

        • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

          I think you are still being unclear, well or I just cant follow. Are you saying you still wish UMDs were being supported at least through 2011 and able to be played on the NGP? Or are you saying the NGP can not play physical media, which it can since it can play the games sold by retailers on the small flash based cards?

          • PrinceHeir

            well yeah i was hoping for PSP UMD games still being supported, but im just glad at least you can still play their DDL versions. let’s just hope developers can put their old umd games on PSN(MGS acid games and The 3rd Birthday as examples) so it’s all good. im only talking about PSP BC. maybe the “PSP1″ confused you.

            as for NGP im actually glad we still have physcal media. i wonder what the boxart will be? same as PSP1 games?

          • Testsubject909

            Third birthday isn’t out yet here in the western shores. And there’s a relatively good odd it’ll come out in digital format.

            For one thing, since they’re skipping both retailers and manufacturing costs, they’d theoretically make more money with that medium at a lesser expense, so they’d probably opt for it. It’s also a smarter deal in the long run what with both the PSP2/NGP coming out as well as the rarity of games coming at time where such games get overpriced due to their limited existence, though becomes all the more accessible and enables the publisher/developer to see a continued revenue on these games as they’re still accessible via PSN.

            So… having games shifted over to the PSN is really all about whether or not the publishers/developers are at all financially savvy. Though of course, I also don’t know about any of the legal proceedings they need to deal with and whatnot, so for all I know the costs to put their games up for downloads on PSN might be quite substantial, nevermind the servers that needs to hold the game data and upload it all around.

          • PrinceHeir

            that good thing about DDL PSP games is that they can make the price lower. since PSP games nowadays cost $39.99 they can make it $29.99 it will be affordable not to mention it stays there forever(unless PSN get’s discontinued which is never)

            well i already read here that the The 3rd Birthday already had DDL in japan(though you can’t get Aya’s costume for lightning in dissidia), so i guess it is safe to assume both DDL is confirmed for US release.

            the only games i want are the MGS Acid games. almost every good PSP game made it on PSN(except Birth by Sleep another title i want but that was Disney’s fault to begin with)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYTAIKVXU4LFWLP3I7WT44UPFA Yasune

    Damn, so does this mean it WON’T support UMDs? I don’t see a single UMD port on that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UKKIGGOA4V5EIFXAD7BQQOV4 Heehee

      Yea. Sad. After buying all those UMDs, they can only be played with the PSP.

      • Testsubject909

        I don’t mind.

        It’s not like buying a PSP2 means I’ll throw away one of my older console/handheld.

        The way I see it. They’re both quite easily brought with you. I tend to carry both a DS Lite and a PSP in my pockets when I go out, and when I drag my laptop around, I’ve got way more extra space (enough to carry my PS3 around to a friend’s house.)

        So carrying a PSP, a PSP2/NGP and a DS Lite for me wouldn’t be any trouble. If anything, it’d mean I’d also be capable of conserving battery power when switching between still-played games on the PSP and newly started games on the PSP2/NGP.

        Of course, that’s only if I get one. And I’ll probably wait till a price drop or a possible version 2.0 like with the PSP 2000 and 3000. Same goes for the 3DS.

  • KHSoraKeyBlade

    I don’t like that this has been announced now that they’ve kinda confirmed a sequel to BbS. I love the idea of a sequel as much as the next but I am NOT being sucked into buying another console, I bought a PSP in the first place for BbS. Heh, but I’ll see it happening, they will put it on this system and I’ll be out to buy yet another console.

  • Guest

    Region free?

    Region free??

    Do it Sony! Sony always wins baby

  • http://twitter.com/patrit19 Patrick McCauley

    As long as its not over priced it will be great. But does this mean a new console by sony in the near future if this can rival the PS3?

    • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

      Overpriced? If its selling at a loss, then it is not overpriced.

      • Testsubject909

        But most gamers aren’t informed to begin with. They’ll take everything at face value first, react before being informed.

        If a theoretical awesome console costs 12,000$ to make but gets sold at 3,000$, it’ll nevertheless be a Huge Ripoff to the mundane consumer and the majority of gamers.

        It’s overpriced, relatively to their monthly/yearly wages. In this day and age, we tend to rely heavily on relativism and emotivism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aunna-Terrell/100001267508146 Aunna Terrell

    lol so some crazy screaming at the NGP in public because someone was camping or glitched and killed you before you got a chance to shoot you in CoD? lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

    Third Party = ATLUS = PERSONA 4 PORTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • neocatzon

      no, thx. Persona 5 sounds better

      • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

        don’t worry my FRIEND!!
        we will get to that it BEARY CLOSE!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1507813163 Miguel Marfori

    The possibilities are endless….
    1. Monster Hunter Frontier on a portable! (With Wi-fi, we can finally match Japan’s online community)
    2. Tekken, Street Fighter, MVC3! Fighting games galore!
    3. Persona 4 maybe? Or maybe a new Persona
    4. Kingdom Hearts!!
    5. Portal Portable!!
    6. KATAMARI DAMACY! I liked the PSP version, but to see Katamari on NGP with a second analog nub? I can roll on all day!!

  • Shogunreaper

    If this thing is really as powerfull as the ps3 great, give me games on both consoles. But if its not and its only “Almost as powerful” then don’t, i don’t want my ps3 games suffering because they had to be downgraded to play on the ngp.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472407455 Charles Lupula

      It’s not like that’s not already going on, just with the 360 instead of the NGP.

    • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

      I dont know, I think people who are portable only games would want the nearest experience as possible. Not everyone is a console only or console and portable owner.

      I think “almost as powerful” is a good thing though, considering what the games look like and could play as. And wouldnt the only downgrading really be just having a games videos be a bit more compressed on the NGP?

  • crunc

    It sounds great, but I’m worried about the price. Even if they are losing money on the hardware, that doesn’t make the $350 or whatever outrageous price it will be, any easier to swallow. FYI, I also can’t see spending $250 on the 3DS, so I guess I’ll be sticking with my iPhone and occasional use of the DSi, and just looking longingly at the NGP and 3DS in the window.

  • http://twitter.com/norcalbayarea alex

    killzone 3

  • http://twitter.com/norcalbayarea alex

    killzone 3 in friekin’ 3D bitch…..

  • WyattEpp

    Oh Activision… What better way to provide the impetus for change than with hopelessly derivative schlock?

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