Compile Heart’s NPG Countdown Leads To…

By Spencer . March 24, 2011 . 12:15am


You may have seen Compile Heart’s new countdown site with a handheld device called "NPG" in front of a mountain of old consoles. Is that a Dreamcast on top of the heap?


While we could have waited for twenty days to pass to find out where the "NPG" site leads, but I was curious. So, I decompiled the flash teaser site and it leads to this URL: It is not live yet, but you can see it in the text.




Neptune Mk2 as in "mark 2" sounds like it’s leading to a Hyperdimension Neptunia sequel.

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  • HarryHodd


    • joesz

      Not recommended.The game is already not selling that good.I mean in foreign countries.

      • PurpleDoom

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t it bomb in Japan too?

        • RagnaXBL

          i think it did

          • raymk

            it didn’t bomb at all in japan, In fact its doing well here in the states as well :).

          • Darkrise

            It sold well over 20k on it’s first week or I think in 3 days which was not bad and then sold more in the following months. Don’t know the exact numbers but it’s not bad.

        • malek86

          Apparently not, I know Idea Factory said it made them good money for this fiscal year.

          (it was probably made on a terribly low budget, so it’s not difficult to believe)

          • Ereek

            Budget is the key word to remember here. Not all games have huge budgets and they don’t all need to sell 1,000,000, or even 100,000, copies to make a profit.

            Flop is a very different word for different companies.
            For example, Alpha Protocol was considered to have done “well below expectations” by Sega and it broke 700,000 copies sold. A flop by these smaller companies might be 20,000 or 30,000 sold. Maybe even less.

          • malek86

            Sales are looking relatively healthy. It went past 70k, which is not bad considering. There also seems to be interest in it outside of Japan. Overall, it looks like a hit for IF.

            Maybe they could use some of those profits to make the next game actually good.

          • Its probably has to be less than 20,000 considering some titles had expectations to sell 20K (Was it Devil Survivor that was expected to sell 25K and it did 40K in the US)

        • MizuMikomi

          Actually it was one of their best sellers last year. Of course you have to bring into account the fact it is Compile Heart/Idea Factory, and that a big seller for them is normally mediocre compared to other companies

          But when you look at it, Neptune was still one of their better selling games.

          • PurpleDoom

            I confess that the only thing I was thinking of when I posted that was vaguely remembering (probably incorrectly) a much earlier Siliconera article saying that the game didn’t do all that great. Seems I’m in the wrong, though.

      • endaround

        I doubt that is true. It has been sold out at NISA, Gamestop and Amazon.

      • HarryHodd

        You work for NIS?

    • PurpleDoom

      Sure looks like it’s hinting at an NGP release to me…

      • I sure hope NISA is nice enough to bring it over if it arrives at any of the consoles, portable or not.

        • Obscure RPG’s sell HORRIBLY on 360 in the West, though. Remember when Atlus put out those three titles and one of them sold literally a thousand copies? It would be a huge waste of NISA’s money to release a 360 version if such a version were made.

          Not to mention a good deal of their PS3 fanbase would see such a move as a betrayal. Do you remember how angered people got at them when the 360 version of Cross Edge was released in Japan, even though it was something that took even them by surprise?

          An NGP game, though, I could definitely see that coming Stateside.

          • malek86

            If VGC data is anything to go by (it might not be, but still…) the 360 version of Agarest sold something like 150k copies in the US. It all depends on how they market it. I guess that Really Naughty Edition was useful.

          • Do you know how many PS3 owners I know who bought the Really Naughty Edition just so they could get the extra stuff? It was actually pretty funny to check eBay the week that came out to see how many people were selling the actual game itself on there, but without any of the extras.

            And as I said, NISA has a particular fan base that’s very loyal to them, because they’re very loyal to us while a lot of companies haven’t been. Any PS3 release from NISA is an automatic buy right now. I certainly wouldn’t have picked up Last Rebellion otherwise. If they went multiplatform, that would cease. Some of them would probably do an outright boycott. I wouldn’t. But NISA would no longer equal purchase. It’d be on a case-by-case basis from then on. It would do a lot more harm than good.

          • malek86

            I’m pretty sure people are loyal to NISA because their games are good, not for something else. It’s not like they haven’t published for a number of other consoles anyway, especially Nintendo ones.

            I don’t think this is a 360 port of Neptunia, but even if it were, I don’t see how that would somehow make people angrier than when they made the Phantom Brave port for the Wii, or Disgaea for DS, or Sakura Wars for Wii.

          • Nintendo doesn’t count. No one sees the Wii as competition between PS3 and 360. Doing a Wii title is like doing a PS2 title. And nobody’s upset when NISA bring out a portable title.

            It’s in the HD systems, that people have particular loyalties. The 360 is the system that is usually unfairly favored and when a company shows that they are going to buck that trend, they develop a following because of it. When they start aping that trend, they lose that following.

            Hell, you haven’t seen people saying they are going to refuse to buy Tales of Graces F because the PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia was never localized but the 360 version was? That’s not MY mindset, but it does exist.

            Anyway, it’s all a moot point, because they’ve already said they have no plans to localize any 360 titles, so they will continue to be favored by PS3 owners who like JRPG’s.

          • malek86

            That sounds… illogical. Good thing I don’t have any alligiances. I would hate to feel morally obliged to buy a particular game just because it’s an exclusive, or avoid a game I like because it’s multiplatform.

            I’m not cut for boycott or blind support either. I’ll just leave that to other people.

          • neo_firenze

            “Remember when Atlus put out those three titles and one of them sold literally a thousand copies?”

            Which one? I assume you’re talking about the trio of Operation Darkness, Zoids Assault, and Spectral Force 3. And I assume Zoids is the low seller? That’s too bad, it’s a decent Front Mission clone – linear and not very long, but a solid enough SRPG. It’s worth the $9.70 new that it’s going for on Amazon right now.

            As for Agarest… I can’t believe people went that nutty over cheap pack-in trinkets. I intentionally WAITED until I could buy the 360 disc only version because I didn’t want to pay for a stupid mouse pad that I’d throw in the trash.

          • I looked it up. Zoids was actually not the lowest seller, it was Operation Darkness which sold less than 5,000 copies in its first ten weeks. The highest seller was Spectral Force 3, which did close to 29,000 in that same period.

          • neo_firenze

            Re: the bad Operation Darkness sales – interesting, but 5,000 in 10 weeks isn’t the same as “literally a thousand copies”. Still not good though, and I do agree with your basic point that niche RPGs don’t really sell well on 360 in the west.

      • malek86

        People have already made the connection, but I’m not convinced. The acronym is slightly different after all.

        Also, we have essentially no official sites about any NGP games whatsoever yet, it would be pretty weird if a small company like Compile Heart was the first one to put up a teaser site.

        • PurpleDoom

          I dunno. Compile Heart is a division – or at least somehow related – to Idea Factory, right? I’ve noticed that usually IF have something out the door on new Sony consoles relatively quickly after launch, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if they were the first to launch a teaser site.

          If it ends up not being an NGP game right away (or at all), I can think of two possibilities besides it just being a single-platform game:
          – They’re doing something similar to what Arc System Works did with BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II and announce a version for a currently available console, and revealing that it’s also coming to a newer console (the NGP, in this case) later.
          – They’re doing a 360 port of the original game. It’s happened with Agarest 1, Cross Edge, and Agarest Zero, why shouldn’t it happen to Neptunia? Actually, in retrospect, that sounds more likely…

          • malek86

            I don’t see a simple 360 port warranting a countdown clock (did they do it with Agarest and Zero?). If anything, it’s probably easier for it to be a multiplatform re-release with new content. A sort of Remix version.

            But I’m still leaning toward new game. Again, a remix would probably be something they just outright announce, not tease people for it.

          • PurpleDoom

            The 360 ports are never just straight ports, they always have new content added. I can’t say if they did the countdowns for their other enhanced 360 ports, but they do have separate websites, so the possibility is there.

        • Sam

          “The acronym is slightly different after all.”

          Although don’t forget, in the game they put Playstation as LaStation, Wii and Lowee et cetera. I would think NPG would be their attempt at switching around NGP…..

          Personally, I consider the words NPG to be more then just a coincidence….. but I will be interested to see how things turn out…. only another four hundred and something hours to go….

        • Darkrise

          Also, it sounds a little too obvious.

    • Hi, we’ve said this before, but we really don’t like those types of comments around here because it only leads to people arguing. Please don’t do it again because we’ll just delete them. Thanks for understanding. :)

      • HarryHodd

        No problem. I was just joking. You know it had this ;) after it. Everyone around here is assuming it’s a handheld title.

  • Of course, lol

  • MizuMikomi

    Chou Jigen Game Neptune: Mk2/Mark 2?

    Sounds awesome, can’t wait to hear more about it!
    But first… I need to finish Neptune’s true ending.. xD

    Also.. has Compile Heart ever done a sequel for one of their crossover games, or is this the absolute first?

    Either way, awesome, just awesome!

    • It’s not a crossover game, though.

      • MizuMikomi

        Well I suppose you are right, however, it was following in the stead of their other crossover games; Cross-Edge and Trinity Universe, so I just always assumed it was because the fact Compile Heart, Idea Factory, as well as NiS, and Sega, all had a hand in it in some shape or form.

        But I suppose that is more of a collaboration than a crossover. Eh, my thinking was somewhat misguided, pretty normal. Lol

  • holyPaladin

    Is that javascript? :D

    • mirumu

      Since it was decompiled from Flash it’s probably Actionscript…which in effect has the same syntax as Javascript. Ironically that code indicates they’re also using PHP on their server and if they’d stored their secret URL in there it would probably still be secret.

      • holyPaladin

        oops my bad, missed the “flash” teaser site hehe
        thx for the info

  • *sets up camp and prepares to watch the screen for around 518 hours*

  • Please tell me i’m not the only one that facepalm myself when i see the clock, i mean 498 hours?

  • Wow. I guess Neptunia did that well, it now has warranted a possible sequel?Perhaps they’ll take out the horrid healing mechanic I’ve heard about in the next one.

  • PurpleDoom

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this actually ended up being an enhanced port to 360. They certainly have a track record for it, and this has all the usual symptoms (added subtitle, apparent new content, and – this is admittedly an assumption – being released about a year after the original version.) Not that a sequel wouldn’t be nice, but that’s what I’m personally going with for now.

  • PrinceHeir

    let me see the gameplay footage ;D

  • I finally go the game 2 days ago, while it has its faults (the only thing i wish is the battles to were a little faster), it actually is strangelly addictive… I could easily spend an hour making combos without getting bored, and the battles is all my brain trying to remember the combos xD. Also, i dont really see the problem with the healing way, is a lot easier that in other games, using like 60% of probabilities is already hard for the girls not to use a healing pot.

    And, i like the girl’s english voices, specially neptune’s not goddess mode, it really suits her o.o.

    Ahh, it made me want to hear the great wende lee’s voice again… Has she been on a game lately? The last one i played with her voice is Mimana Iyar chronciles

    • Perhaps the VA of which you speak may perhaps be present in the game of which you speak, perhaps indeed maybe.

      • Omg -maybe- she is?! Then! if there exist some small possibilities for her voice to be here, i still havent met the girl that will make my ears happy with her voice! Im sure if the probabilities are at my side i would note right away it’s her, so im sure that perhaps, i still havent encountered the possibility to hear the girl that may have that voice…….AHHHHHHH!!!!!! *runs to the ps3*

    • Guest

      L2 fast forwards attacks.

      • Yeah, i do that, but i sometimes like to see enemies hitting me (even if it sounds weird xD) but they just take too long to move T_T

    • Sal

      If I’m not mistaken Wendee Lee did voices for Ar Tonelico Qoga too.

      • Omfg, and that game is on it’s way to my house… i wonder if my heart could take it.

        IF SHE IS IN ONE OF THE MAIN CHARS GIRLZ THEN… THEN I DUNNO, but it will be pretty nice xD

  • Lenne

    interesting… can’t wait till more info is released.

  • >:D YUS!

    be a release title!(if it is for the ngp)

  • Oh god i hope its a sequel :o

  • Kai2591

    Instant get whatever it is. Premium edition.

  • Darkrise

    Sequel!? I’m looking forward to more info.

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