• Nanashrew

    That’s definitely a more competitive price point which I was hoping for.

  • http://www.ihasnowebsitez.com Satonaka CP-Four

    “but will have a touchpad built into it as well.” sigh, why does this hint at lower battery life :(

  • Suicunesol

    That’s actually a relatively good price, isn’t it? Consoles cost less here in the states than in Japan, which means PS4 might launch at… $300? Or something.

    I’m interested in seeing how they would put a touchpad into a Dualshock without making it look like something else… :P

    Can’t wait to see the Sony-branded proprietary harddrives (sold separately).

    • puchinri

      I was actually trying to figure that out. Do Nintendo consoles go cheaper usually, or consoles in general?

      • Suicunesol

        Consoles in general, I believe, are more expensive outside of the US. This is not just an issue of exchange rate. Companies price products differently for different territories depending on various factors. That’s why a 3DS imported from Japan costs more than one from American retailers.

        Unfortunately, I know nothing more about this subject, except that the price difference is one reason why Nintendo region locks its consoles.

        • puchinri

          Ahh, okay. And yeah, I was thinking if we go by exchange rate, they should be more expensive for us anyway. Makes sense~.

  • Peeka Chu

    You can’t directly convert prices like this article has or is attempting to do. It will be $349/ $399 USD/ CAD tops, if not even in a 2 SKU configuration exactly like that.

    Oh, and unless BC is built in or offered through Gaikai for all my PSN downloads, I’ll probably be passing on launch until I catch up on my backlog.

    • idrawrobots

      isn’t the dollar much weaker against the yen than it was in 2007

      • malek86

        Worldwide pricing doesn’t depend too much on currency exchange, it mostly depends on the market you want to enter in, the competition, etc.

        • Peeka Chu

          Correct.

      • Follower_of_Pram

        “Actually, on Feb 1, 2013 the exchange rate for JPY to USD is 92.75JPY to 1USD…”

        Taken from what someone said at another site I go to give ya a good feel of it. Either way, as the others that replied to ya said.

  • malek86

    For comparison, how much does the Wii U cost in Japan?

  • puchinri

    I read this to my boyfriend, and he thinks the touchpad could be cool, and I think it could be used well, but how will this be done without seeming like they’re copying Nintendo again, and without making an already nice controller into a clunky mess?

    Is this going to be a PS3 controller that’s part Vita? I’m curious, but not excited. But I suspect PS3 controllers would still work with it, so that’d be nice (supposing that’s the case).

    • http://twitter.com/ChestnutBowl Chestnut Bowl

      Rumors suggest the touchpad will be small; it’s intended to replace the Start and Select buttons and will be similar to the Vita’s rear touchpad.

      • puchinri

        Huh. I don’t know if I should call that gamer or lady intuition (or just what’s most logical). Being similar to the Vita’s rear touchpad is what I assumed would work most, but that does still make me worry a bit about how they’re going to reformat the controller.

        I’m going to miss the Start and Select button, but this could be very convenient (or bad for clumsy people like me).

  • nickmanx5

    if i can pay 300 for a wii u i can pay 400 for a ps4. im not going to lie ever since i switched my gamecube for a ps2 and played ffx which was my first final fantasy ive leaned toward the ps brand even tho i own all consoles

    • puchinri

      Even though I’m a Nintendo lover at heart and through and through, Sony always had a special place with me (the first console that I owned, and not a relative, was a PS1). Even though my PS3 has disappointed me in comparison this generation, I do look forward to what will be on the PS4 and how things will go (and I’ll probably try to own a Wii U and PS4).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Altin-Bujupaj/1157167838 Altin Bujupaj

    That’s better than 599 USD I’d say.

    • http://www.twitch.tv/jpnags Jason Naglic

      Har har.

  • Randy Marsh

    Oh god, a touch pad?! I assume there will be a classic controller for those who hate using touchscreens? Hold on a second. Did I really just say that for a Sony system, I understand Nintendo, but Sony?

    • fqc

      Touch screen is not the same thing as a touch pad.

      • Randy Marsh

        They’re the same in my opinion, but let’s see how this goes. I’ll probably just end up using the touch screen controller when I watch a movie on it. I just hope the PS4 controller is smaller than Nintendo’s touch screen controller, The size is the main reason I refuse to use my Wii U’s standard controller, because it’s a disaster playing with it while looking at the television screen and I’m still afraid that thing will give me cancer.

        • http://hedjahead.wordpress.com/ Hedja

          Your opinion is completely wrong then. A touch pad is not the same as a touchscreen.

          A touchscreen has a display with a backlight which is what causes most of battery to drain. Check any phone/tablet’s battery stats and you’ll see a large majority of consumption is through the display.

          A touchpad has no display and uses a different technique to track touch compared to the resistive/capacitive displays used in touchscreens. This means they’ll consume a lot less power. They’re used in laptops by the way and don’t need to be large to be usable (depending on its use).

          Do you stare at your touchpad when you’re moving your mouse (assuming you use a laptop)?

          Oh and I’m not supporting this touchpad feature, I’m just pointing out why you’re wrong.

          • Randy Marsh

            Whoa, whoa buds no need to go on the defensive. We’re all friends here. So yeah my mistake on the whole touch screen/ pad, they’ve always been the same to me, but then again I’ve never been a fan of the touching gimmick on systems, probably the main reason I don’t know that much about them in difference. From this statement, I now know. You have taught me a lot my yellow spongy teacher, perhaps in another reality I could have called you friend…..

          • http://hedjahead.wordpress.com/ Hedja

            Oh right. The Internet is a tough place to have discussions and sometimes I need to adjust my language to get a point across; there are some really thick-headed people out there.

            I don’t see anything wrong with being wrong as no one’s perfect, but there is something wrong with being wrong and not admitting to it.

            I apologise if I seemed too forceful; I misjudged you by your previous post seeing you deny fqc’s correction.

            Oh and don’t misjudge my avatar as simply Spongebob, see it more as a man brooding over a cup of coffee. And I don’t know you enough to be a friend :p

        • http://twitter.com/Klarktastic Klark / Bengalinha

          its not a mater of opinion a touch pad and a touch screen are two completly diferent things

  • dahuuuundge

    FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

    • Randy Marsh

      Plus 100 cents.

      • Alexander Aubert

        99 cents

    • John Esteves

      MASSIVE DAMAGE

    • Sergio Briceño

      Geez, you beat me to it. But I was going to romanize his accent. :p

    • Gholla20

      You joke, but this is what I paid for mine. :( I got the 80gb MGS4 Bundle with Nascar 09. 599.96 Summer of 2008. I WILL NEVER FORGET!

      • Wesley Kenneth Houpt Mattingly

        Me too, lol, but I got it when Wal-Mart had a $100 gift card for buying a Blu-ray player and a PS3 counted. Grabbed another Dualshock 3 and 500GB laptop HDD to install in the PS3.

        But seriously who cares about the price, given it’s rumored specs, a PC eqivalent is going to cost about $800-$1000 so I would happily pay $699 for it once they get the kinks out of it. My gaming PC cost $750 for me to make and is slightly less powerful than the PS Omni rumored specs. Only people that complain are people without jobs, lol!

  • alundra311

    I’m guessing it would cost more or less around $449 when it gets released in the US.

    • http://www.dorqs.com/ Pace

      Actually no, Sony doesn’t price things equally according to exchange rates. So if its ¥40,000 then it will most likely be $400 and €400 etc.

      • alundra311

        It will cost $400 only IF it will cost 40,000 yen. The article says it will cost over 40,000 yen. How much over, we don’t really know. But based on the rumored specs, I’m actually leaning towards $449 to $499.

        This is just a guess anyway so, we’ll have to wait for them to announce the actual price.

  • TiredOfMyOldUsername

    400$ will only be the basic system with only like 10GB space and they will also release a deluxe version with 250GB space for 500$ and the super deluxe version with 500GB space at 600$.
    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Sony would do something like this for real…

    • 果林

      no kidding haha

    • John Esteves

      Or maybe you can switch your 1TB HD on your PS3 and switch it on your PS4. Just a thought

      • TiredOfMyOldUsername

        If they do like they did with the Vita, they might make their own hardrive for the PS4

  • roxas sora

    wait ps4????noooooooooooooo…..(cry in front my ps3)

  • d19xx

    From the rumors with the competing consoles Sony has a really good chance of regaining the top spot in the console market.

    They can also sweeten the deal with this if they throw in a free month or two of PSN+.

    • John Esteves

      Or maybe PS+ get free access to the Gaikai Cloud Service?

  • Ehren Rivers

    So uh… Any word on backwards compatibility, then? I haven’t heard anything reliable, but the rumors have it that the PS4 is abandoning all previous architectures. I won’t lie, with the disconnect between PS2 and PS3 I’m a little worried about ANOTHER major software change. I have so many questions, there’s so much I’ll need to know before I can be excited about this. Will I be able to transfer my games to this new console? What about games with locked saves, will there be some kind of free one-time cloud transfer or something?

    For that matter, with the next XBox being designed to have one-time console codes for discs and requiring an internet connection to play does this system allow for the the buying and selling of used games? Lots of questions like these are rocketing around my head. Hopefully there’ll be some solid information on the 20th.

    • John Esteves

      70 M people own a PS3. Is backwards compatibility even needed? Even with the PS4 out I highly doubt it will slow PS3 growth and sales, since it’s still an alternative for developers to make games on (assuming the PS4 to expensive). Honestly it’s not really that bad anymore, I just want the PS4 online software to be upgraded with Party Chat, A better friend’s list, and hopefully less defects like the YLOD when it comes to hardware.

      Oh yeah, The Games. Can’t forget that too. Games.

      • Ehren Rivers

        Yes, backwards compatibility is needed.

        • Wesley Kenneth Houpt Mattingly

          It’s pretty obvious why so many titles are going digital, the PS4 will obviously be backwards compatible in the sense that it will play the digital titles of old.

      • Tails the Foxhound

        FWIW, I still don’t have a PS3 because I couldn’t afford one of the ones that were BC to PS2. PS3 was going to be my way to start playing PS2 games, instead I went out and bought a used PS2. PS4 was looking to be the same for PS3 to me, unless there’s no BC.

    • MogCakes

      The PS4′s architecture is said to be completely different to the PS3′s, so I wouldn’t bet on backwards compatibility. On the upside, games will be much, much easier to program for on the PS4. It’s a trade-off and certainly a hard decision for sure.

      • Ehren Rivers

        That’s not much of an upside, unless the developers of previous games re-program games from the PS3 for the PS4. For that matter, we only just started getting a good number of HD collections for the PS3 from the PS2 era. This is an incredibly important issue for someone like me, who is poor enough that to buy a new console I would have to sell my old console. And then we have to think about things like support for the PS3, and how long that will continue to last. There are a lot of factors here which have to be taken into account, and Sony’s treatment of the PS2 to PS3 transition was less than satisfactory.

        If there’s no backwards compatibility, that’s a major blow to buyability for some people, myself included.

        • MogCakes

          No doubt, and I’m right with you in the money department. But with the internals being so different from the PS3, I’m skeptical that BC will be available.

        • Spirit Macardi

          I know exactly what you mean. It was hard enough convincing myself to get a PS3 with its lack of PS2 compatibility, so if the next one isn’t compatible with any of them then I may wind up ending my support for Sony entirely.

          • Ehren Rivers

            I would consider that option if most of my franchises weren’t so anchored in Sony, and the whole used games problem with the next Microsoft system.

        • drproton

          The upside is that future multiplatform games will run at least as well as on any other console, and development wil be cheaper and more efficient for developers, meaning bigger or more bug-free games.

          It’s clear to me that they made the correct decision, even if it means sacrificing backwards-compatibility. Sony is cutting its losses and trying to position itself to offer the best product to consumers and platform for developers, at a cheaper price than it would have cost to include backwards compatibility into the design.

  • TheDarkEmpress

    More or less what I was willing to spend. I think the general consensus was $400 is what people would be willing to spend. I personally wouldn’t go much higher than that, but if Sony does keep that kind of price point they can definitely expect my business.

    • http://twitter.com/Tiredman_ Tiredman

      Actually, with the sheer amount of items coming out trying to give computer gaming on tv’s, I think $400 is going too high.

      As for me, I am not touching next gen for a long time. I am skipping release day hiccups and bugs, nasty hardware issues that cause thing like the infamous rrod, and the lack of good software. I learned long ago, buying new and at full price is a suckers game.

      • Wesley Kenneth Houpt Mattingly

        $400 too much, get a job you lazy ass!

        • http://twitter.com/Tiredman_ Tiredman

          I would rather take that money and add to a vacation fund to go to the coast this summer and get a seaside hotel room and hit the beach and play in the ocean.

          Wait a year to let the hardware work out the kinks. Two reasons. One, it saves you a lot of headache. Two, it teaches console makers that this shit is getting old. Quit pushing our your consoles while they are broken or buggy. This should go for games too.

          As for your name calling, yeah, I will just ignore it.

  • gamefreak86

    Too big a backlog, no bc no sale.

  • Guest

    Heart stop

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    “touchpad built into it as well.” Bwhahahaha. This is what I see.

    • Model_M

      Thats a touch SCREEN dummy

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        Its a joke! dummy

    • Learii

      i hope is not that big

      • MogCakes

        It’s the same shape as current controllers (basically, DualShock 4)

        • Learii

          i hope is not like wii u gamepad that bad for me

    • Kefkiroth

      Why are circle and square swapped?

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        I think its mirrored

      • Locklear93

        Because it’s not a terribly good shop. <_<

  • XYZ_JolteonZ980

    So I guess that is $399 for us. Though are people really expecting price details on the 20ith?

  • grevlinghore

    Cut the price in half -> twice as many people will buy it -> Same profit, but your statistics will look better. I for one will not be able to afford one of these, even though I would absolutely love to own one.

    • MillieChliette

      That’s not how it works, buddy. If something will cost $300 to produce and they sell it at $200, they’re not making any profit, they’re losing money.

  • xavier axol

    i’m more curious about the controller than anything else, i for onces would like to see something different from the duo shock controller. last gen microsoft convince me to purchased the xbox360 first because of the controller (and other reason like pricing), i hope that sony had put more thought on the shape of the controller and the function (adding a touch screen like the wii u or the vita, would lean me more to purchase the ps4 at launch)

  • uchihalord1994

    Get ready dad…

  • Kai2591

    wah and i thought the PS4 will be released next year…

  • Pockystix

    not even surprised lol

  • Göran Isacson

    Huh, so it may go the Vita route and have a touchpad on the back of the control? Because if they intend to keep the PS3′s control-size, the back of the control is the only place I can think of to put a touchpad.

  • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

    I think that will be the pricing sweet spot for entering this new gen. $399.99 for a basic console and decent HDD, and $499.99 for a deluxe console with the whole upgraded HDD and online/entertainment bundle included, i.e. PSN plus/Xbox Live, or whatever their successors will be like.

    The touchpad on the controller will be interesting to see where they’re going with this idea. Just no overly stupid and mandatory gimmicks, please, I’m begging you!

    • smashbrolink

      Like what?
      You know it’s going to be doing everything the Wii U pad does anyways. A second screen kind of CALLS for a minimap and storage access at a touch. It’d be stupid if they DIDN’T do that.

      • Mir Teiwaz

        There’s one problem with your logic, my dear Link: The PS4 controller uses a touch PAD, not a touch SCREEN. It’s not going to be showing anything like that because it has no screen to show anything with.

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        Like people were saying below, it’s a touchpad, not a touchscreen. Much more limiting than having a second screen, but still annoying if it’s going to be used for gimmicks that break game immersion. This is pure speculation, but still worrisome…

  • http://lukalovesgames.blogspot.de/ Alkaid

    Seems like the people here still remember this: http://www.psxextreme.com/feature/88.html

    Hopefully it will not be that expensive. Then again, we’ve seen console pricing taken to a completely different level with the Wii U (partially because of the controlpad). It could very well be everything at this point but I’d be very happy, if we didn’t have to pay *more* than the japanese gamers do.

    Considering the current Yen to $/€ standing it would be really sweet, if it was cheaper. Especially in Germany I won’t really see that happening, since the custom dues are killing us.

  • Freud_Hater

    Better have some fucking good games to go along with that price, Sony Oo

  • smashbrolink

    Well, I hope someone picks up that phone.
    Because I F***ing called it.

    Around the same price as the premium Wii U, and I’ll betcha anything that the tech inside isn’t going to be THAT much more powerful either.
    It’d be more expensive otherwise, unless Sony is planning to sell at a gigantic loss for the first few months.

    • John Esteves

      I’ll pick up that call on Feb 20th and ask you “As you were saying?”

      • smashbrolink

        And then I’ll present you with that 500 dollar or more receipt and a list of devs that find the console too expensive to develop for, due to being asked to push it for all its worth, if I’m wrong and it’s a power fiend.
        To be perfectly honest, it’s in Sony’s best interest to keep their obsession over graphics and power in check for their upcoming gen.

    • sandra10

      People also said the same thing about the Vita, that because of its tech, it would inherently cost (much) more than the 3DS’s launch price.

      And they were wrong. Nintendo and their pricing structure are by no means the benchmark to judge others by.

  • Jack Frazee

    “Over 40,000″ doesn’t necessarily mean “Under 50,000″, does it? If so though, damn that’s cheap. I hope they don’t sell it for too low comparative to the cost of production and end up losing a ton of money.

  • Steven Higgins

    Either way I’m going to wait a few years to see if KH3 winds up on the PS3 before committing to this. If it does I probably won’t even bother with this.

    Also I’m going to guess that, like the Vita, the touchpad will be on the back. Probably between the handles. I just looked at my Dualshock 3 and there seems to be enough room for a small one back there. Since a touch pad doesn’t have a display there’s no reason for it to be on the front.

  • http://twitter.com/Nates4Christ Nate

    Things are usually more expensive over there so maybe we’ll get it for 350. I also think they might ship a free game. Maybe one that uses its new kind of eye toy or motion control. My biggest hope is they will have at least a few 4 player player split screen games at launch.

  • Kuro Kairi

    dayum, I’m just not ready for ps4 yet theres nothing new i think they could add about it that could make me hyped, the ps3 had promises of games looking great and more power for better games and lost of space for lots of content (lol), even if it turns out to be a great console it’ll have to wait, but if its in any way like the rumored xbox I’ll be saying goodbye to sony no matter the circumstances!

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Honestly, I feel like this is too high for the market of today, unless they have plans to cut price within a year. Current-gen consoles already have a huge library of games, but it’s taken a lot of time and effort for them to get this far.

    I could see a PlayStation Plus pack-in membership helping take some of the burden off the price, but I can only realistically imagine them giving you free access to older (ie: PS3) games, not new ones.

    Very curious to see how Microsoft price their system now. If they opt for a low-priced subscription model from the get-go, that could be very interesting indeed.

    • John Esteves

      In this day and age its not all about hardware anymore or the price alone on a console. it’s about software improvements, the service quality, and the games that defines a console and convinces users they’re getting their money’s worth. Judging from the way things are going I highly doubt that Xbox Live is going to drop the pay subscription compared to other service like PSN, Nintendo Online and Steam.

      As of right now the most consumer friendly is the Playstation Network and the service it provides, I was hoping Nintendo would improve on the online service on the Wii U when it comes to the social community but that didn’t exactly impress other then Mii-verse and its built in forum. But honestly I only buy a Nintendo consoles for their exclusives (who doesn’t?) so I don’t really pay much mind to the online feature even though it would have be a plus.

      Going back to Microsoft, yeah Halo is cool and Gears is awesome. But a new and proper Banjo-Kazooie game would be cool, Conker reboot would be awesome, Jade Empire sequal wouldn’t be bad, new IPs from Microsoft Studio too. I honestly don’t think the NEXT Xbox will appeal to anyone if they just make a stronger console but keep the same service.

      Consumer friendly goes a long way.

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        Judging from the way things are going I highly doubt that Xbox Live is going to drop the pay subscription compared to other service like PSN, Nintendo Online and Steam.

        Which was exactly my point. Low-priced hardware coupled with cell phone-like subscription model, similar to what they’ve tried once with the 360 already.

        • MediaMindControl

          The subscription model is personally my least favorite. I rather pay the 400 out the gate, never have to pay for online and have a quality piece of hardware. I understand I am a minority in this light. (or at least I think I am.) I was given the first iphone, before the G’s were introduced which is what I use today and I have never bought a game for it. Before the 360 broke, never paid a dime for online and the only MMO I will play is GW2 because of the non subscription fee. I hope microsoft converts to the other online services! Knowing them, they have many other techniques to pull from our pockets. Speaking of business models, I’m surprised you guys haven’t written an article on Path of exile! The rage is it’s what Diablo III should have been.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    $400, maybe. Over $400, seems a little too much. Also, I really hope the PS4 is backwards compatible as well because if it’s not then Sony made a big mistake and need to revise it.

    • alexis cortes

      I would gladly pay $100 more than the standard price as long as it’s backwards compatible with Ps1, Ps2 and Ps3 games. Oh, and I hope since it’s the first model, that it doesn’t get something like the YLOD for the ps3.

      • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

        What you said right there, that’s how they get you lol. They know you want it and I would love backwards compatibility as well, but at a reasonable price. Times have changed and they need to take that into consideration.

        • alexis cortes

          Lol you’re right. I guess I exaggerated a little, and there are still rumors that it won’t play used games.

          • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

            I’m going to be honest. The whole “not being able to play used games” thing doesn’t bother me as I’ve begun to only buy games that I know I really want in the first place. It’s been at least a year and a half since I’ve bought a used game if I remember correctly lol

  • SunOatBoatMatadorQuattro

    The PlayStation 5 will be so expensive that only the Queen of England and Japan’s Prime Minister will be able to afford it.

    • MogCakes

      I think they’ve learned their lesson with pricing, or rather Kaz Hirai is making sure he won’t be booted out of his position for pricing it to where only upper middle class people and higher can afford it.

  • Learii

    the controller have touch pad build? i hope the controll not too big

  • soulz

    I just hope they don’t give us a useless 80gb hardrive space or two different versions just so they can sell one at a higher price.

  • http://www.facebook.com/singabore Kevin Chang

    haha that`s a lot better than what the ps3 launch price was

  • Guest

    At least it’s not SICSU HANDEREDO DORARUSU.

    • MogCakes

      Kaz Hirai speaks fluent english, and it’s Five Hundred and Ninety-Nine U.S. Dollars.

  • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

    If it can’t read PS3,2,1 discs that’s one thing. But it would really suck if all the PSN store stuff gets dumped too.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/JadenPrinceton C.Guzman

    WOAH, NOPE. Actually, I can’t say no yet, because I said that the first time and ended up getting a PS3 anyway.

    (It happens every time… *shakes head*)

  • CirnoLakes

    That would have to be ridiculously powerful for them to be selling it at a loss at all.

    • MogCakes

      Not sure about that. R&D costs are quite high, and overhead and stuff. The off-the-shelf nature of the parts does really help the price though. We’ll see.

  • MediaMindControl

    I’m curious. How big is this machine going to be?? Compared to the ps3, I hope it is about the same size as the original. there is something so durable about it and I feel the slim ones are a lot more prone to damage like they are lacking armor.

  • Jeremy Barnes

    They just don’t learn. The next Sega of consoles.

  • RandomRenzo

    If the rumor is true that Sony went with AMD on their graphics than there would be no support for Backwards Compatibility. We’ll see when it gets announced.

  • Yuri Huitron Alvarado

    any proof of their saying?

    It’s quite easy to say everything but they just said and didn’t have any proof of what they published.

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