A Closer Look At The Legend Of Heroes: Trails In The Flash Characters

By Sato . February 27, 2013 . 5:30pm

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Falcom shared more information regarding the first four characters of their upcoming game, The Legend of Heroes: Trails In The Flash.

 

Rin Schwaltzer

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Rin is originally from an aristocratic family of the Northern Empire. He’s the adopted son of the Baron Schwartzer. Thanks to his straightforward personality, he has no problem socializing and getting along with others, but at the same time, suffers from an inferiority complex due to being adopted as a child. For that reason, he doesn’t believe he can succeed under his family name.

 

Seven years prior to the story, Rin trained under the master, Yun Kafei, and studied the Hachi yō ittō-ryū style. However, even after training under his master, he still feels limited to his abilities. He is determined to advance in the Thors Academy in order to follow his own path.

 

Arisa Reinford

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A young lady of the Reinford Group, known for being the empire’s largest heavy industry company. She has the appearance of a princess. Contrary to her looks, she’s outspoken and strong-minded. Deep down, she is softhearted, but can also be a meddling person at times. Arisa the type of person who can’t just watch other people in trouble and turn a blind eye.

 

She decided to join the military academy as a way to stand against her hardheaded mother, who is the president of the Reinford Group. While her family runs a business that deals arms, she selected archery as her military art at Thors. Thanks to the teachings of her grandfather and servants, she became quite the archer at a younger age.

 

Elliot Craig

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Son of imperial army general, Red-Haired Craig. Contrary to his father who is known as a fierce hero, Elliot is a gentle young boy. He likes to play the violin and piano and originally wanted to attend the empire’s music academy, but was forced into Thors academy by his father.

 

The magical wand Elliot uses was made by the Reinford company, which also incorporates Epstein technology. It is used as a requirement to further his training at the Thors academy.

 

Laura S. Alzeid

 

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Laura is the daughter of an elite military family who are on considered on par with the Vander family in terms of power. She’s a prideful young lady who lacks knowledge of the world around her but has no shame in it, and is ambitious to learn new things.

 

She was taught the ways of the sword by her father, who is considered a sword master. The Bastard Sword is her weapon of choice, which she has the ability to swing around freely. Thanks to her gifted and talented skills, she’s by far one of the best at the academy. As a fellow swordsman, she’s shown an interest in Rin and his Hachi yō ittō-ryū style.

 

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Flash is slated to be released in 2013 on PlayStation Vita and PlayStation 3.



  • puchinri

    Interesting group there. Rin sounds like he could be cliche and boring, but I rather like the sound of Arisa and Laura (it’s a mixed deal with Elliot, but he’s so moe I really don’t care).

    I’m looking forward to more of the game~.

    • asch999

      That’s like indirectly saying that I like the women and don’t care of the boys :)

      • puchinri

        Haha, not at all~. After all, Elliot gets a free pass because he’s cute, so I obviously appreciate the boys. x’D

        My thing with Elliot is that he also sounds a bit cliche, but his cliche parts just made him sound even cuter, and that’s hard to refuse. >u<
        I just really hope Rin doesn't get played strongly as the "oh no, I am so insecure about being adopted, even though I'm incredibly competent and am probably even considered a great choice to take over the family, but my angst, you see, for I am adopted!”

        (Obviously, the problem with that is compared to the others who had a slight twist on their character, his sounds like it’s going all the way with the trope.)

        • MrTyrant

          I think it’s better than the others without complex of any kind (except Elliot and his family issue) it’s not like he would be over pessimistic we don’t know about that. Elliot being “cute” is the bad thing about him.

          • puchinri

            That’s also a fair point. I’m of two minds about it. I do love complex characters, but I am also incredibly tired of melodrama and angst (for the sake of it). I like the sound of Laura because instead of being the type that’s so down/hard on herself for being unknowledged, or the type that’s haughty and throws her shelteredness in others’ faces, she accepts that part of herself and is prepared to do something about it, which is fun and healthy.

            I don’t mind at all if Rin is troubled over his situation, but it only sounds like burden/angst on his part (even his conviction sounds completely driven by it). But again, how it’s handled is game is where the difference will be.

          • MrTyrant

            The “she felt no shame” in her ignorance is the thing that broke the cliche. Since it’s common to put a girl who is so strong, so perfect but fail in common knowledge and because of that they feel ashamed making all kind of kawaii faces lol srly.

            But it’s not my cup of tea either.

          • puchinri

            I think they do it to male and female characters quite often, actually (but it is certainly handled in different ways, and it’s spot on how you said it would be done with a girl).

            I like when off the bat, a writer can show me that yeah they threw in a common trope, but you shouldn’t expect the character to be reduced to it. (Which is why Laura is such a nice exception, and Arisa was almost there, but Rin doesn’t seem to be breaking away from his at all; and Elliot really isn’t but barely could.)

      • raymk

        Puchinri is female so I think she’s warranted to like females in games more than the guys.

    • MrTyrant

      All of them sound cliche and boring by “nowadays” standars, at least for me but I believe the plot will speak more about them that what we see in their presentation. It’s Falcom, if anything they can give you good surprises.

      • puchinri

        Heh, fair point. The girls’ twists on their cliches were only slightly better and sounded like they were in the right part compared to the guys (especially in comparison to Rin, who I felt had no twist mentioned at all). I was thinking that though~. I’m looking forward to the game and what surprises they will have in store.

    • nonamekeyblade

      why western people always complain cliched and boring character?there is no such thing is not cliched in game character.maybe it culture difference between us asian.

      • Kevadu

        Actually, there *is* such a thing as non-cliche characters is games. It’s just that hardly anyone does it, which is why we all complain…

        Though to be fair there are just as many cliches in the west. They’re just different cliches.

        • MrTyrant

          Well cliche wester would be some soldiers doing mission for her country and things like that. You know, when I though the next setting would be in Erobonia I was eager to know if the next main character would be a soldier, a full time soldier in the military that left or will left the army for whatever reason.

        • raymk

          Cliches aren’t really bad its how they are used that makes the difference. All forms of media from east and west uses them and some stories wouldn’t work without them.

        • nonamekeyblade

          you mean character like yuri in tales of vesperia?

        • puchinri

          Pretty much all of this.

      • puchinri

        No, I like tropes, but cliches are a problem. I like writing that takes tropes and uses them well (whether it’s averting, subverting, lampshading or even playing them straight, depending on what it is). But if it risks being repetitive and uncreative, it is a cliche and that is a problem. I really don’t expect Rin to play out that way in the game, but I’m not sure I feel positively about him right now (hence, why he sounds cliche, but I’m hoping the trope is played better than that).

        • nonamekeyblade

          i see.well let just hope so.

  • Jugiatsu

    And it will never see the light of day here. Drats.

    • JazzyMan123

      Which is pretty sad, considering how great the series is…(yes, I’ve played them).

      • PoweredByHentai

        I’ve played them too! :D

        /high-fives

        • JazzyMan123

          Out of curiosity…how much JP do you know? I know Chinese and a bit of JP (basic level) I admit.

          • PoweredByHentai

            Enough to be able to translate on the fly and hold a technical conversation on software engineering issues.

            I’ve also translated some promotional videos back when I was on Kotaku (one when Tales of Graces was coming out in Japan and the other when Deus Ex Human Revolution had a Japanese promo vid).

            That said, I’ve been mistaken for being a 2nd generation Japanese-American by Japanese people on occasion.

      • Lilith

        Congratulations, you must feel like you’re special or something.

        • JazzyMan123

          …and what gave you that idea? All I’m saying is that I’ve played them and they are great games imo and I would like more people to play them. I never claimed I was the next “Jesus” or something.

          • http://www.facebook.com/chao.m.wu.5 Chao Min Wu

            If you know where to import the chinese versions from, then you can play up to Zero no Kiseki, they have Aoi no Kiseki to be release in march. So you can pretty much catch up the whole series if you understand chinese.

          • JazzyMan123

            Since I live in Singapore…some shops are selling Zero no Kiseki (CH) and I bought that and I’ve had a preorder on Ao no Kiseki like forever ago.

            So I’ll pretty much catch up by March.

          • PoweredByHentai

            Heh, my dad’s side of the family lives in Singapore.

    • Brandon001

      My thoughts exactly.

    • Thankful4JRPGs

      It will if we forget about SC, the 3rd, Zero, and Ao, which honestly, I think should be done. I’ve played the Trails games in the series up till now and most of the stories are kind of “Meh, same ol’, same ol’.” Music is generally a blast to listen to, but I don’t how much I liked the arrangements for Evolution…

      Plus, I have extremely high doubts any of theses older Trails games will be profitable in the US the way any localization company would want them to be when you consider the time it would take to translate and release them.

      PSP is pretty much a dead system in the US, so we should accept the fact and move on to the Vita. A few really vocal fans for this series and their circles of friends just don’t have the financial ability to buoy up the series and cause a miraculous turnaround with them either.

      The other big problem is that whoever dares to take up the task of translating these games is going to have the Trails fan base griping about how a name is translated or whatever and picking at every little thing, because they’ve been “playing the games for years before the localization company ever picked them up and therefore they are the experts.” This same issue happened with the Trails anime when Sentai picked it up and so in my opinion, it’s best to let these games on the PC and PSP stay unlocalized and just move along to Sen if another game in the series is ever going to be released.

      I think Sen has the best potential for long-term sales, given how “new” the Vita is compared with other systems of this generation. And honestly, I don’t think it’ll be necessary to have played any of the previous games to enjoy Sen like some of the fans will claim to the moon and back. The first 3 trails games were one series, Zero and Ao were another, and Sen should be able to stand on its own just fine. A few overlapping characters and details a gamer isn’t familiar with from the previous series won’t ruin the experience. If it did, then nobody in Japan new to the series would be buying them at all. That’s just my 2 cents.

    • http://twitter.com/Vietgeta VietGeta

      Well, the fact that this is for PS3 and Vita and not the PSP, there’s still hope.

    • TatsuyaKyo

      We will see it eventually…. After ten years. :(

  • DesmaX

    I’m playing FC now. Kinda sad that this is not coming to the west…

    Oh well, hope they’ll finish this saga with this one, and move to a complete new story (And find another publisher to boot)

    • JazzyMan123

      To be fair, I doubt “another publisher” (you are talking about localization right?) would be any faster considering the amount of text the games have.

      • DesmaX

        Honestly, my biggest problem is the Voice Acting.

        Seriously, the voices in this game doesn’t fit the characters (Agate voice made me laugh). Bad Voice Acting kinda breaks a game for me.

        I don’t mind for this game, because it has only Battle Voices, but Sen no Kiseki is fully voiced, right? Definely a problem (Unless they find a way of releasing the game with JP voices only… But that would hurt the sales)

        • JazzyMan123

          …so what’s giving you the idea Sen will be localized therefore skipping everything else?

          Anywho, I’m just going to stop here….

          • DesmaX

            lol, of course not.

            But Falcom will probably start fully voicing their games. Definitely will make localization even harder for future games (Even if they finish this saga)

          • JazzyMan123

            Yeah. Licensing can really be a pain in the rear (See Kara no Shoujo).

          • MrTyrant

            Kara no Shoujo suffer a lot of issues, one of them was that the company didn’t want the game to sell outside and they interrupt the fan translation.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Something tells me Carpe Fulgur’s Project 4 will be the reason SC gets released and then it’ll all fall apart for the 3rd because nobody wants to translate the Trails in the Sky series anymore. Which is all the more reason to go for a fresh start with Sen.

          • raymk

            Money and the fact that xseed has to bring over games to you know actually stay alive as a company? They can’t just stay alive without releasing anything now can they.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Which is exactly why they should cut their ties with the Trails games and move onto projects that are more manageable.

            I’ve enjoyed a handful of the games they’ve released, but recently I’m not sure what direction they’re headed as a company and last year’s lineup for the most part was really disappointing…

      • raymk

        Actually another publisher would be better,xseed are just slow regardless of the game they are bringing out. Look how many damn titles atlus and nisa bring over compared to the 2 games that xseed even try to release in a year. Atlus or nisa games combined trumps the text that any 2 games of the games that xseed are trying to localize.

        • DesmaX

          Well, they probably have more translators in their staff… But still, it’s really, really text heavy.

          It would need a publisher that knows how to make good marketing too

          • raymk

            True, but that really just means that they really need some help with getting games out.

          • JazzyMan123

            Well, at this point, I seriously doubt anyone else even wants to touch the games after seeing how much effort it requires (not to mention poor sales to boot).

          • raymk

            Well nothing they can do about that being that its psp. Just like atlus with growlanser I knew it would bomb even though I wanted it to come over.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Well, nobody else should do SC through Ao and gamers should get a clean slate with Sen. If the small group of vocal fans think otherwise, they should translate them themselves or create a giant wiki page to help everyone else out.

        • JazzyMan123

          Are you really comparing the scripts of the games Atlus and NISA does vs. the LoH series?

          http://twitpic.com/bq5of9

          Sooo…what exactly are you trying to say? Comparing the script sizes is just like comparing a pond in a park to the Pacific Ocean.

          • DesmaX

            … wait a sec

            It’s even bigger than Persona scripts?

          • JazzyMan123

            LoH? Yup. SC in particular, the story and NPC text are both far more lengthy and verbose than say, P4.

            And unlike the ingame books in Persona, you can actually read the books in the LoH games.

          • raymk

            Yes because you probably missed the actual comparison I’m trying to make. I’ll make it simpler(not saying your stupid or implying that at all) 3 of atlus rpg’s trump 1 of LOH games. Yes their games have a lot of txt but it is in no way an excuse if atlus can release 2 to 3 rpg’s a year that have a lot of text as well as doing voice over for all the characters.

          • JazzyMan123

            Well, yeah. I doubt any of the text in the RPGs that Atlus localizes even comes close to a fraction of FC’s text. So therefore they can localize it faster.

          • raymk

            So you doubt that 3 of any atlus rpgs comes close to any FC games text? I’m pretty sure your exaggerating a bit much here, I’ve played FC games that were released here and I’m sure that P4 Arena text alone equals the FC games that are released in the west. Again that’s not even counting voice-overs in english which also takes a long time to do and xseed only has had to do battle voices up to now.

          • JazzyMan123

            Okay, so they might. And P4A just might match FC (oh wait, does P4A have any NPC text? Then hahaha nope).

            On the other hand, I’m not exaggerating when I say none of them has anything on SC’s script (god, conversations in SC go on forever).

          • DesmaX

            “(god, conversations go on forever).”

            Well, definely a game that doesn’t appeal to the western market

          • raymk

            Doesn’t matter have you played P4A? Its basically a big visual novel, but again I did say more than the one’s released in the west from what I’ve played. Either way you may be right on this but at the same time its still no excuse. Xseed has actually been ass at releasing other rpg’s that don’t even have big scripts so what’s the problem with those games huh?

          • M’iau M’iaut

            They’ve actually been quite upfront on the text issue. It’s the darn daily newspaper and the wiki-sized reports on literally everything in the game. It’s that every character in the game speaks in walls of text. Yes, stuff outside of game play, but you’ve seen how folks react when ANYTHING gets cut or adapted differently.

          • DesmaX

            I think those are pretty cool, actually.

            I enjoyed reading the newspapers in Red Dead Redemption

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Not saying they aren’t more than cool — and I think @JazzyMan123:disqus is saying the same. Just that such is a hell of a lot of effort for a game which would struggle to get 10-15k in sales, even digitally.

          • JazzyMan123

            Oh man the newspaper, it’s even worse in SC and NPC text is…how can anybody write so damn much?

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            The newspapers, reports and books are not that big. I remember seeing a Trails materials book over at the bookstore in Japan when I was last there that had the text for all those things for both FC and SC and all that text fit onto something like 20 or less pages in the back of the book.

            Here’s the listing here and you can see for yourself. It even has a picture of the book text in one of the sample pictures. And as you can see in the listing, all the world data for all 3 games in the Trails in the Sky arc amount to only 176 pages.

            http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b50.html

            Anybody exaggerating more than that is just flat out being misleading.

          • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

            Do you even have that book? Because that book doesn’t contain the information that’s being talked about here.

            If we’re on the topic of page counts for all the books, look at the scenario books. These are the scripts for FC, SC, and 3rd.

            FC: 488 pages – http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b49.html
            SC:800 pages – http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b58.html
            3rd: 628 pages – http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b67.html

            That World Guidance book has character profiles and basic information, written in the form of a travel guide, of Liberl. A lot of the plot stuff that’s brought up in 3rd is actually barely touched on in that book, too.

            If you really want character info, go for the two Special Collection books.
            FC/SC: 352 pages – http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b36.html
            3rd: 260 pages – http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b72.html

            Or if you want a whopping crapton of info on Crossbell and stuff that came up in Zero/Ao? The Crossbell Archive is your friend, at 320 pages. http://www.falcom.co.jp/mailorder/catalog/b73.html

            However, formatting of this book is wildly different from the Scenario Books, and doesn’t give you a script. It’s 85-90% text, some of which is really small print, and this book contains /summaries/ of Zero and Ao, with sidebar annotations of events that happen through the games.

            One of the things about these books, is that while they contain some info that crosses over between them, it’s not a lot. Most of these contain new information to some degree. The Crossbell Archives even doesn’t display things in Zero/Ao, in order to save room for things that never made it IN Zero/Ao.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Yes, it does. It has the newspapers, reports, and books. I took a good look at it after having played the first Trails arc a few years back. I’m not talking about the scenario data, which I don’t know why you listed. If I was talking about the scenario books, I would have listed them, so quit talking down to everyone like you’re the only one who’s ever played these games.

          • raymk

            Well ok you may be right but at the same time I still don’t find that an excuse when they only have to work on what is usually one game at a time.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            The reason this comparison is flawed is because xseed hasn’t even translated the text for SC nor do they have the license for Zero or Ao, so right now they’re looking at what? 1.5 million characters they’ve done (and not even internally according to the interview with Deus, which makes it seem like the whole translation was contracted out) and maybe the same for SC.

            Then everybody is already pretty convinced it’s Carpe Fulgur who’s doing SC for their Project 4 anyway, so if that’s true, it won’t even be the licensee who’s doing the translation again.

  • raymk

    Laura S. Alzeid sounds the best so far, she’s seems like the none annoying character as well and she wants to learn instead of being ignorant. With the way LoH games usually break away from cliches when you actually play the games and makes the characters enjoyable. Put it like this Loh games are cliches done right and everything just about fits into cliches anyway nowadays so its what you do with them that counts.

    • MrTyrant

      That’s probably just the first impretion, the guy might sound the worst by some people but when they play the game it can be one of your favourites characters. Who knows?

      • raymk

        When did I say the guy sounds the worst? I may have said that Laura S sounds the most interesting but I meant what I said when I said LOH knows how to break away cliches and make you like characters. Some characters though in LoH even without cliches (like any game really) just aren’t redeemable.

        • MrTyrant

          “some people” don’t imply you exactly.

          • raymk

            Well you quoted me so I assumed it was directed at me. My apologies then.

    • puchinri

      Agreed~. My only difference is, I’d call the cliches done right tropes, instead of still calling them cliches (mainly because of the connotation of the word). And I also feel the same about Laura. Arisa is a nice middleground because she doesn’t too stuck on her flaws, but at the same time, she could be more flawed/”developed”. I do hope to see that all of them are handled well, and I do expect it.

      • raymk

        I agree with this as well and I know that they won’t let us down. With that I just want to see some gameplay now and more characters.

        • puchinri

          Same~! I can’t wait to see more gameplay and any other characters.

  • Zharkiel

    March 29 is just around the corner, someone go bug XSEED about it.

    • Thankful4JRPGs

      I think it’s better to ask another company with a more reliable track record for getting games out. No sense in gamers getting their hopes up only to find out a game is not coming… Hint: GKH

      • Zharkiel

        Eeeh, the GKH dealio ain’t something I want to touch, I have strong feelings for both companies and I can’t be partial. For that one I say, “shit happens” and stop thinking about it.

        Now as for having hopes of release, I must admit mine ain’t that high, but I WANT TO BELIEVE, so until Sili posts an article quoting Ken saying “SC is cancelled” I’ll keep believing we’ll get it.

        • Thankful4JRPGs

          GKH wasn’t the first game they screwed US gamers on. There was Arc Rise Fantasia and Muramasa.

          The problem is they keep pointing the finger at someone else after they announce they’re going to release it, which is really messed up. Seriously, it’s like don’t announce something until it’s gone gold from now on. SC looks like it’s in the same boat and the 3rd also. I’ve just never seen any localization company drop the ball this many times before.

          Then it was just last year that Jun Iwasaki jumped ship over there and took over at the new US Gung-ho office. Though it doesn’t surprise me with the track record of the last few years why he wouldn’t be headed for greener pastures.

          On top of that there’s that pending lawsuit for xseed poaching employees from another company and stealing or using development tools that apparently didn’t belong to them in that whole drama with Marvelous and that mobile developer whatever their name was.

          This is why I think they’re drowning. They’re in way over their heads and though maybe they can handle the Ys games since Deus will probably do them and all they’ve got to do is edit them, but they should seriously cut their ties with the Trails games before the whole ship goes down.

          • JazzyMan123

            Wow. Just wow. Just how the hell did you come to all those conclusions? Stay classy dude.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Pretty simple really. There’s been all kinds of news about these issues and a lot of this information came straight from the horse’s mouth. Between here, Neogaf and some of the other big gaming websites, there’s no shortage of reports and interviews.

            And I don’t know about you, but if you were one of the original founders of xseed like Iwasaki, why on earth would you abandon your post as president of the company to go take over Gung-ho unless things were not going well financially for the company? Just saying…

          • M’iau M’iaut

            You’ve ridden the GKH horse to death on more than one post. We can leave it be now. It is doubtful you can find a developer small or large in history who does not have a game (or more) cancelled. It’s part of business that sometimes things happen. Disappointing yes, but not part of some grand conspiracy to ‘screw’ their customers.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            I don’t think it’s a conspiracy, I think it’s more like committing to too many projects to handle without the manpower to do them. It seems like common sense that you wouldn’t take on something massive like SC only to have to tell people later the script is too big and it may have to be canceled… It is kind of a kick in the face for all those who already bought FC.

            My theory though is Carpe Fulgur will be releasing SC as their Project 4 on PC. Don’t say you didn’t hear it here prior to the announcement. The only problem with SC releasing on the PC is that it screws all those who bought FC on the PSP. I think the only way for xseed to redeem themselves in many gamers’ minds is to put FC on PC too and to give everyone who bought it on PSP a steam code for a free download of the game.

          • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

            Looking at your posts about XSEED, and even having seen your rant in another (completely unrelated post, at that) thread, you’d almost think that the people at XSEED kicked your puppy. Or maybe stole your piccard and turned it into bacon. Or something.

            I imagine, then, as you’re such a big Falcom game fan, you’re probably a little upset that XSEED has that whole exclusivity deal, huh?

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Don’t own a puppy and you are seriously creepy… How about you quit acting like you are God’s gift to man and putting down everyone for wanting to play Sen first? Yeah, you’re not the only one who’s played the games, so get over yourself.

          • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

            pfft, you act like I’m stalking you or something. :)

            Nevertheless, I actually have more of an issue with people spreading misinformation, which you’ve been doing in the whole comment section. Half of the information I’ve seen from you isn’t even close to right, to be honest.

            You also seem to ride a high horse, thinking that you know everything when all you seem to know is nothing but misinformation, and you spread it like it’s the Word of God. I know for a fact that I am not the only one who’s played the games. I enjoy talking to people who can provide intelligent arguments/discussions about the things brought up in them.

            I think I’m asking a fair question about your hate for XSEED. You’ve shown quite some vitriol over them both here and on unrelated posts. Your hate for them is strong enough that you’ve convinced yourself that they’re trying to wrong you when the things that happened are things that were out of their control.

          • Juuu

            Arc Rise and Muramasa were license swipes courtesy of Vanillaware and Ignition mostly, much like the GKH fadango was Vanillaware. I hate to be “that” person, but spreading misinformation generally gets nobody very far in a discussion.

          • Thankful4JRPGs

            Don’t worry, I don’t take your comment that way. Maybe this is just me and I’m being overcritical, because I tend to be sometimes. But I have a hard time seeing how Vanillaware would knowingly let a company announce they are bringing 2 different games and then retract on that. It just seems like really bad business not only for them but everyone else involved. Surely a move like that would hit both companies hard financially and there would be lawsuits or some kind of undisclosed settlement, right?

            Then with Arc Rise, how could Ignition do a license swipe if someone else had a contract guaranteeing them the rights and they kept their part of the bargain? I can’t think of where I’ve ever heard of a similar story in the gaming industry. It seem like there were a few where the publisher changed where either somebody went bankrupt or got bought out, but that’s it.

          • Juuu

            Sadly, we may never know–the world of NDAs and contracts is frustratingly murky to fans, isn’t it? :c But it was…pretty transparent that Vanilla seems to be in over their heads with Dragon’s Crown [as evidenced by White Knight Atlus swooping in to save the day, as well as a slightly concerning lack of progress] and while the script for GKH was DONE, they needed Vanilla to do some technical stuff with it, and they refused. I DO think it is damaging to both companies [the Arc/Muramasa double-whammy seemed to put XSeed at least in VERY dire financial straights and I worry about Vanillaware from time to time nowadays too.] Also, we have no idea how far Arc Rise was into production. It is entirely possible that they had just gotten the rights [so they thought] to Arc and Muramasa, announced them, but Ignition managed to juuuust sneak in and grab it up somehow, perhaps through a better deal. XSeed has, of late, been keeping announcements VERY CLOSE to their chest. Perhaps they jumped the gun on announcing these two, fully ASSUMING THEY HAD THEM, not knowing of Ignition’s talks.

            I don’t claim to be an authority on those two, and I don’t think anyone DOES know, but I guess I wouldn’t think there’d be a suit because that would just cost MORE money. So obviously, take the speculation with a grain of salt, but I CERTAINLY don’t blame XSeed for GKH and I don’t think we know enough to claim Mura/Arc were part of some sort of… I dunno, conspiracy either. Sorry for the text wall, ahhaha!

      • Luna Kazemaru

        Yeah ignore all the games they brought out last year and what they working on this year. For the record GKH:
        http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/16/the-saddest-thing-about-grand-knights-history-is-xseed-finished-the-english-text/

        get your facts right ok. Stay Free

        • JazzyMan123

          Man, what a troll-casion this it eh?

        • Thankful4JRPGs

          Uh yeah, games that most gamers don’t want like Sumioni, Way of the Warrior 4, Ogarythm, and Ragnarok Odyssey.

          I won’t even say how offensive and racist I found the broken English they purposely used for the Japanese characters in the Way of the Warrior 4. Not cool, man. Just because my eyes are shaped differently from yours doesn’t mean I can’t speak correct English, which is what it sounded like they were insinuating.

          The Last Story is an exception where they listened to their fan base, but they didn’t translate it themselves and just used the translation and voice overs from European edition.

          • http://wiredjungle.wordpress.com/ DrakosAmatras

            Drop the groundless assumptions and accusations here and now. And it’s not for you to decide what “most gamers” want or don’t want. You’ve gone on the tirade long enough in the past 24 hours. This is a warning.

          • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

            Actually, Ragnarok Odyssey was also a case of listening to fans. XSEED had numerous emails and one of the most active ‘request’ threads on their forum was devoted entirely to Odyssey.

  • http://queensblade.net/index.php/characters/cattleya gulabjamuns

    Thank you, new Eliot, for making the first girly Eliot look comparatively less girly. http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101210090236/deadoralive/images/thumb/2/23/DOA4_Eliot_12.jpg/640px-DOA4_Eliot_12.jpg

  • MrSirFeatherFang

    Obligatory miniskirt as part of the uniform… insta-buy for sure.

  • TatsuyaKyo

    Trails in the Sky – Bracers
    Trails of Zero – Crossbell Police Force
    Trails in the Flash – Elite Academy for Aristocrats/Nobles(?)

    Huh, seems like a pattern to me. I wonder what would be next?

    • https://twitter.com/polaritymanx StarFang

      I guess a spec-op or a cult. Or just a wanderers’ group.

  • Learii

    wake me up when XSEED bring this to the west or don’t wake me at all

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      What if I bring it to the west? Should I not wake you up :D

      • Thankful4JRPGs

        Hahahahah! At this rate, you’re the only hope of Sen getting released, at all.

      • Learii

        only if i can buy it lol

    • MrTyrant

      Well then, we don’t wake you at all. Rest for all the eternity :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

    Yaaay butthurt downvotes~

    So where should I start the series from?

    • JazzyMan123

      Generally, everyone starts from FC. Theoretically, you could start from Zero while missing some plot points. Ao no Kiseki on the other hand…hoo boy.

      • Guest

        FC? Is it OK to start at TitS?

        • JazzyMan123

          Why yes. TitS is FC. As a heads up, there’s a lot of reading involved.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

            Why is it when I deleted the comment it’s still there ==;

            I just found out lol. Thk anyway. Just don’t spam words the way Umineko did then I’m OK.

          • JazzyMan123

            Nah. Nothing like Umineko. But on the other hand…I would say SC comes preeetty close to Umin…

            And OH MAN Umineko. Good ol’ Ryukishi07. Wonder what his next work will be…

          • MrTyrant

            It is good time to tell that I hate Ryukishi and his works. So if you tell me SC is close to Umineko i would hate it. Be aware of that, do not compare works.

          • JazzyMan123

            Eh, YMMV.

            It’s just how I see it.

          • MrTyrant

            YMMV?

            YHVH? god? haha. Sorry, my english knowledge is very limited. So i suppose you are saying that my opinion can be different from your or something like that.

          • JazzyMan123

            Yep. YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary.

            Hm, maybe comparing Umineko to LoH may not be such a good comparison after all…

            Oh, were you talking plot wise? Then there isn’t any comparison in regards to the writing.

            Though both Umineko and SC tend to throw walls upon walls of text at you haha.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

            http://i.imgur.com/NOcwN.gif
            Time to pull this gif out. Oh well, I survived the 1st episode of the VN so my curiosity *should* ensure tht I will take the ride to its end.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

            Too many words? Or is it the writing?

          • MrTyrant

            The plot, although the initial idea was very good.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001059050301 Jermaine Kanhai

        I don’t get it. With this game… what’s the chronological order? I mean, we have Trails in the Sky which is the first chapter, so… yeah, what are other PSP and Vita games of Sora no Kiseki? After? Side-story?

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      A Tear of Vermillion :D

    • Thankful4JRPGs

      Start from Sen. It will be a new story arc like Zero was.

      • MrTyrant

        No, the game that will come after Sen years later.

    • MrTyrant

      I gave you a downvote. You were asking for them lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

        :(

  • AndreasStalin

    well seeing how many comments this game gets every time it is mentioned on siliconera I would believe there should be a market for these games in the west too, so come on publishers start translating!

    • Thankful4JRPGs

      It’s really only the same few people commenting like 10+ times each, so that’s why these threads get so bloated with comments. I just thought I’d join the fun this time and voice my support for Sen over the other outdated entries in the series.

  • TheExile285

    Calling it now: Arisa is a tsundere.

    • puchinri

      She doesn’t sound tsuntsun though? She’s just outspoken and a softie that meddles often. She kind of reminds me of a more open version of Madoka (Rinne no Langrange).
      . . .Or Utena. Which would be interesting if she resembled the latter more than the former.

  • http://www.thejaystack.com/ Jon Stachewicz

    My skepticism about their designs aside, these characters seem interesting and already really well developed. I can see myself warming up to this

  • Ni

    I wanted to get in this franchise but the first game is just too slow paced for me. 12 hours just for the prologue was too much for me (this was pretty funny since I have read all kyoukaisen novels lol). Maybe some time in the future I’ll give the game another chance (:

    • JazzyMan123

      Well, the games work like that. They slowly but surely build things up…and then BAM! The big events happen and boy does it feel satisfying.

  • Raltrios

    If this takes place during war prior to TiTS, does that mean these characters are doomed? Or do they actually appear in one of the earlier titles?

    • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

      Actually, I would say that that’s a mistranslation. There’s enough data to imply, so far, that the Hundred Days War has happened, and in fact, FC has happened. (Not 100%, but it’s a good 80-90% at this point)

      There were terms used in that interview that give a rough idea of when it would take place, because of other incidents that could be similar to that ‘great war.’

      The guess for when it happens, though, at this point, is somewhere between 3rd and Ao.

      • Raltrios

        If that’s the case, I can allow myself to get attached to these characters. However, that also means they’re more likely to end up on my disinterested list because I won’t be able to bring myself to read about them. Not without knowing the story after the first game.

        I’m gonna have to find a detailed synopsis somewhere. Actually, I’ve got the anime downloaded. iirc, that covers the events of the Second Chapter, does it not?

        • http://www.esterior.net/ Endless History

          Unfortunately, not. It only covers about a third of it, and doesn’t touch on the main plot of it, sadly. And it does it in a very hurried manner, so a lot of things are missing as well.

  • Claud12

    US/UK release?????

  • raymk

    Or the same 3 people telling us that we need the other games to play this one.

  • Jordan Coleman

    Which is kind of stupid. Yes western fans of Japanese things are in no way use to playing, reading, or watching things out of order. That excuse makes no sense and it’s not like this game is entirely dependent on the others.

    I mean what would really keep this out is really the cost of localizing.

  • Thankful4JRPGs

    It gets annoying, doesn’t it? I think there’s a superiority complex going on here where a couple of fans want to beat it into everyone’s heads that they “know more than everyone else.”

    I guarantee nobody will need to have played any of the others just to enjoy Sen. Zero was just fine to play without any of the first 3 Trails games (even though I did play those 3 prior to Zero) because Zero’s arc is not focused on Estelle and Joshua’s adventures, but rather Lloyd’s. Yeah, there’s some crossover of characters and such in Zero and Ao, but it doesn’t make the game anymore playable or less playable whether you have played the previous entries or not. It’s more like fan service or an unimportant FYI if you’ve played the other games. Falcom even stated this when Zero came out if anyone familiar with the press release remembers.

    Like I stated in another thread before, I didn’t care too much for FC, SC, the 3rd, Zero or Ao. They’re all kind of them same cookie cutter mold when it comes to game design and there weren’t any major improvements or upgrades to the games like you see with the jump from Ao to Sen and other RPG series. True, there’s a smattering of decent scenes in the previous 5 games, I’ll admit, but as a person who’s played this series, I think it’s best to start with Sen.

    Plus, from a business standpoint, it would be absolutely backward logic to alienate potential new customers and say, “If you want to understand Sen, go back and buy and play through all our other previous entries FIRST!” No game company in their right mind would be so stupid.

  • DesmaX

    Think it like releasing only Assassins Creed III in Japan

  • JazzyMan123

    Well…have you played all the preceding games?

  • Kevadu

    Actually the game *is* entirely dependent on the others. That’s the whole problem..

  • LynxAmali

    Actually…………

    AC3 is fine as a stand alone game.

  • Jordan Coleman

    Yeah and?

    I’d still be able to enjoy the gameplay and the main character’s main plot. I’d be lost on the overarching plot, but the game would not be a loss.

  • JazzyMan123

    Agree with this. Plus, as great as AC is…the story isn’t really that great imo.

  • DesmaX

    wait, what?
    oh…

  • raymk

    Well AC3 on vita Imo has a great story, now the ps360 version of the story isn’t all that good.

  • Thankful4JRPGs

    I beg to differ. Falcom specifically said Zero wasn’t before it came out, and it wasn’t dependent on the first 3 Trails games because I played it. I am 100% positive Sen will be the same way. Just because of character crossovers doesn’t mean you need to play the other games.

    That’s like saying you can’t enjoy Street Fighter IV because you haven’t played the old slow as molasses Street Fighter II in the arcades.

  • raymk

    I agree, but well I’m honestly getting tired of arguing with them. Sure they have some points but come on now, playing the game is better than not playing none at all.

  • Jordan Coleman

    Have you played this one?

    Are you really going to tell me I won’t be able to get the main story of these character’s issues without playing previous games? I very much doubt that.

    Beside’s there’s the internet.

    And quite honestly, I don’t care about the story in any Falcom game. It’s all pretty meh by my experience. I just want to play a good jrpg.

  • Thankful4JRPGs

    Exactly.

  • DesmaX

    Well, if you want the gameplay, just import yourself a copy, and use gamefaqs to guide yourself.

    And… Even the main plot will be hard to understand without the previous ones

  • Jordan Coleman

    Totally, because you’ve played this one and Falcom are apparently terrible story tellers and when they start a new sub-installment they are completely impenetrable to anyone but the most hardcore followers because that makes sense.

  • DesmaX

    Well… They kinda are.

    Take Ys Seven, for an example. Everyone says that you don’t need to play the previous ones… But… yeah. I got confused.

    “Why I’m in a ship? Who is Dogi?” was one of my questions when I started playing this game.

    But, sure, Ys is not “Story-Driven”, so I can let it slide. But Trails is another story…

  • Thankful4JRPGs

    One of the most enlightened comments of the day!

  • Jordan Coleman

    I never played a Ys game before seven either. Those things didn’t bother me and didn’t confuse me because they weren’t important to the real story.

    Why are you on a ship? Because Adol is an adventuer and they go on ships to go to new places.

    Who is Dogi? Adol’s ally and buddy who probably has some history with him seen in other games or maybe not, it’s not important.

    You get that from context easily and no you don’t need to play the other Ys games to make sense of that.

    That just sounds like obsessing over little details. If that is what these games are like then it’s not a problem at all.

    If YS 7 is your example then it’s pretty poor one. Ys games are pretty standalone and I’ve played them all out of order.

    I mean can you not read say a Batman comic because they may mention a past event you don’t know or a character that you are unaware of? The answer is no, you can. People do it all the time with Super-Hero comics.

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