Drakengard 3′s Lead Character Is Rather Promiscuous

By Sato . May 14, 2013 . 5:35pm

We recently reported that Drakengard 3’s protagonist, Zero, will have other allies aside from dragons to help fight on the battlefield. They’re male characters called “Apostles,” who we’ve briefly described. This week’s issue of Dengeki gives us a closer look.

 

According to Dengeki, the Apostles serve the role of… satiating Zero’s sexual desires. She can also take along two of them to help out on the battlefield.

 

Here are details surrounding some of Drakengard 3’s Apostles:

 

Dito

A beautiful young man with a contradictory brutal personality. He has sharp insights, but also a sadistic nature, as he feels joy when deeply injuring opponents and hearing them scream in pain when tormented.

 

Decad

A middle-aged brawny man with glasses who fights with his fists. He secretly considers his pains and adversities to be some sort of rewarding trial that he enjoys in a masochistic manner, but he still has common sense and consideration towards women.

 

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Octa

An older man who uses special ring-like weapons. He walks around wearing a pair of amazingly tall wooden clogs. The old man is considered the best of the Apostles when it comes to sexual activities, an abnormality for his age that he is proud for.

 

Cent

Cento (pictured right) is a young man with a cross-shaped scar across his stomach. Cento’s weapon of choice are dual blades. He’s a handsome man who has nothing but absolute confidence in himself, but he often makes the mistake of announcing his knowledge, which might seem cocky to others.

 

Drakengard 3 is slated for release on PlayStation 3 later this year.

 


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  • http://twitter.com/#!/Leafy_Cam Leafhopper

    Too lewd for me.

    • Highasthesky

      I hear ya bro i bought Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus but that game is tame compared to this

    • NTaiyokun

      And that’s okay. Because this is the internet and you have the right to say ANYTHING you want and totally not worry about igniting the fanbase on fire.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Leafy_Cam Leafhopper

        I honestly was just joking around but I guess people take everything seriously. I thought it sounded like a joke even the way I worded it.

        • NTaiyokun

          Protip: 4 words alone can’t translate sarcasm well.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Leafy_Cam Leafhopper

            I get that but it just seemed really obvious. Oh well.

          • AtrusHB

            Should’ve said “2lewd4me”.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Leafy_Cam Leafhopper

            I actually thought about that and thought it would be too obvious.

          • Asura

            Nothing in your statement states obvious. Nothing. There have been posts similar to yours that are non-sarcastic across multiple sites.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Leafy_Cam Leafhopper

            Of course, because you, the psychic being that you are, can tell the intentions of words over the internet.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/kaishou Kaishou

            Screw that, sarcasm hardly works online.

        • Nameless App 1989

          Sarcasm is never as easy to detect online as it is in person.

  • MrSirFeatherFang

    Decartes sounds cool because he is a brawny glasses wearing man!
    I’ve only see a few of those glasses wearing badasses

    • FakkuDesu

      Would be totally badass if it weren’t for his masochistic tendesies, which kind of contradicts the badassery lol.

      • Testsubject909

        Hey, whatever gets him off.

        Plus, if you want to consider things from a badass character viewpoint. Either you get a badass who A) Doesn’t like pain or B) ignores pain or C) likes pain and pushes through it to success.

        I doubt he actively seeks it out as he’s got common sense, but this means that in combat, pain is less of an ordeal for him and thus makes him more apt to keep on fighting.

        • FakkuDesu

          Well if that’s the case then no problem here, it’s just that common sense+masochism doesn’t sound like they’d go together, but if he doesn’t actively seek to be beat up for pleasure then i guess it’s no big deal, but if he flaunts it then it’ll be a big turn off for most people, same goes for the sadist guy, and the old man and his sexual prowess lol.
          damn, this game’s fucked up xD

          • Testsubject909

            You should never get involved with any BDSM or Dom/sub community. Their discussions will screw your perceptions of what is and isn’t fucked up.

            Edit: or do.

            Variety is the spice of life and knowing more of the world and of the many mentalities that are around you helps you better understand the madness and make a clearer path for yourself in life.

        • http://twitter.com/crxuchilbara MegamMix

          I would seriously be afarid of any of these men…

  • https://twitter.com/polaritymanx StarFang

    So Deto is Caim 2.0.

  • piichan

    how about making an 18+ pc version :))

    • MrTyrant

      Eeeew I dislike hardcore hentai hahaha.

      • Testsubject909

        Then aim for softcore hentai.

        • ShadowDivz

          Or in laymans terms. Boring.

          • Testsubject909

            Ah. That made me laugh more then it should’ve.

          • Sakurazaki

            Get hard or get out, is what I always say.

            … Yup. Not taking it back.

          • Testsubject909

            Well, to begin with, if you’re soft, I’d imagine there’d be some trouble getting in.

    • DyLaN

      Otome ver coming soon ™ to Jap only XD

      • Boba Bob

        for realz?

        • DyLaN

          No. I am just fooling around :P

          • piichan

            someone can do a doujin :D

  • Arcana Wiz

    Well this is Drakengard then that relationship is no surprise to fans,
    Glad that it won’t go for a typical rpg story.

    • Rentekabond

      Adding Apostles doesn’t ruin the chances of it having a typical rpg story, unfortunately.

      • puchinri

        Is Drakengard known for a typical RPG story though? They sound kind of. . . different to me. At least as far as the characters go (saying nothing about the plot itself and the directions it takes).

        • AnimusVox

          It kind of is honestly aside from some of the effed up things that happen, but it’s all about the characters if you ask me. They make the game different.

          • puchinri

            Ahhh. So it is a case a effed up characters but cliche plot? That’s certainly an interesting mix at least (and more refreshing than the norm, anyway).

          • Soroth23

            Well, its not ENTIRELY cliche. I mean, ya, the first one is pretty typical, rescue the girl, save the world, that kind of thing. But in Drakengard 2 they have quite a twist to the normal story near the end that I wont ruin for u if u havent played yet.

      • SuperBrother

        You clearly haven’t played a Cavia game, lol.

  • NTaiyokun

    So… Appropriately disturbing….

  • DesmaX

    Fascinating

    • Testsubject909

      Quite

  • ronin4life

    So… she fights alongside her… prostitues? Harem? Er… whatever the term is…
    That… is different. And by that I mean I don’t know how, what, or where to think about this. So I won’t.

    • Logeres

      Dunno, sounds pretty normal compared to, say, Conception, where you woo ladies so they bear you children (all PG, mind you), which you then use as party members. The only unusual aspect of this game is that it’s a male harem, not a female one.

      • ronin4life

        Not really. One is implied at “worst”, but mostly just joked around and the other is quite direct and blatant.

        Though, sex harems are/were real, while magic baby soldiers were not… so I guess this is more “normal”…*_*;;

    • Testsubject909

      I believe it’s Gigolo.

    • Chiupon

      SHE FIGHTS ALONG SIDE HER MANWHORES
      YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

      • Testsubject909

        I believe they prefer the term Apostle. At the very least use the words Personal Manwhores.

  • Anime10121

    E3 better come with a localization announcement, get to it Square if you aint got it in your show already!

  • Byas

    “The old man is considered the best of the Apostles when it comes to sexual activities, an abnormality for his age that he is proud for.”

    I really had no need to know that. õ_õ
    Now I’m imagining an old geezer and the main charac- STOP IT BRAIN!

    • FakkuDesu

      Pfff, all of them are pretty disturbing to imagine, except for Cento, who seems like a pretty normal guy.

      • Testsubject909

        You should never trust a front of normalcy.

        • DyLaN

          T-T

          • Bur

            I don’t think anything Drakengard-related as touched beastialty yet. Maybe that’s his thing?

          • Sperium3000

            It’s official. I need a freaking drink…

          • Testsubject909

            Want some plum wine?

          • DyLaN

            As long as the subject is a humanoid being, I can live with it.

          • YuanMori

            There’s that whole relationship with Caim and Angel, pretty sure that’s somewhat close to beastiality.

          • Bur

            Good point. I think that was as close to romantic as Caim was capable of.

          • YuanMori

            Pretty much. He went mad trying to save her when he realized the seals were tormenting her, and fought until they were able to be freed from that pain. He did grow to love that dragon, even if it wasn’t quite romance.

          • AnimusVox

            *George Takei voice* Oh my

    • Testsubject909

      Wait until you go to sleep. See what your dreams come up with.

  • Prinnydoom

    So……….question is it a good idea to play the first two drakengard games before this one or will that not be an issue?

    • MrTyrant

      Not necessary because this games is the precuel of the first one. But the game might have characters, event or more twisted ending that connect with the first two games ignoring any boundary D:

  • Bur

    Somehow this seems quite normal compared to the cannibal, pedophile, hermaphrodite, and gay transexual skeleton.

    • DyLaN

      >gay transexual skeleton
      Tell me more abt it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

        I think his name was Urick and he was implied to have slept with a high keebler elf.

        Edit: Damn. Can’t believe I forgot about Emil.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1598149010 Rayhan PromisedGallery

          Urick is a normal male (pretty boy), it’s just that he;s immortal.
          The gay one is Yaha, and he has one-sided-love toward Urick.

          The skeleton that he mean is Emil from Nier

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

            I’m too lazy to look up the exact scene, but it is implied Urick slept with Yaha.

            And I realized we were talking about Emil shortly after.

          • prometheus126

            Urick was suggested to had a sexual relationship with Yaha, he mentions it during the battle with him.

      • Bur

        Emil in Nier. He starts out as a boy in his own boy body but midstory he ends up possessing his sister’s body, which happens to be a skeleton thing. Also he’s gay.

        • DyLaN

          @Nicholas Bur
          Duhuhuhuhu sounds….. Amusing ;)

        • Jack Frazee

          I loved Nier, got every ending and spent a lot of time on it. I never picked up on anything about Emil possibly being gay. Where was this information?

          The only thing I recall is that he may have had a bit of a crush on Kaine.

          • Bur

            iirc, the writer said it. Apparently it’s a lot more obvious with young Nier.

        • prometheus126

          You forgot hermaphrodite Kaine.

    • ronin4life

      “transexual skeleton”
      … that isn’t possible… a skeleton can’t have a gender…
      @.@;;;

      • Testsubject909

        A skeleton can have a gender.

        You can still determine the gender of a person based solely on their bones. The same with many animals.

        • Asura

          No, you determine its sex. Gender and sex are not the same thing. Though skeletons can have both, assuming the skeleton is alive and has a human personality.

          • Testsubject909

            M’bad. Though in this case, said skeleton did have both.

            Edit: … waitaminute…

    • Pockystix

      I wouldn’t mind the more options for Zero lol

    • Soroth23

      Christ, how many people are gonna say that Leonard was a pedophile? He feels guilt over his little brothers deaths, and feels the lives of children are sacred, thats all. He doesnt want to have sex with Seere, he wants to PROTECT him.

  • Victoria [Rokuso3]

    “he old man is considered the best of the Apostles when it comes to sexual activities,”

    SO BIZARRE. I’m really going to buy this game on day one. It seems even weirder than the first one. And I always thought that was impossible.

    • Testsubject909

      I’m guessing here that Age = Experience.

      So it’s not that bizarre.

    • ShadowDivz

      Imagine milfs… then switch that for a dude.
      Same concept…im guessing.

      • FakkuDesu

        Not all milfs are pretty lol

        there is no “offical” male equivalent for milfs, though i’m guessing that’d be a middle-aged man, this guy we’re talking about is “old”.

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        The term for that is “filf”. The more you know!

        • ShadowDivz

          Ahh. Thanks and now i know.

          AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!

          • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

            GOOO JOE!!!

          • Testsubject909

            Huh… edited out the Rhino for a Filf huh?

          • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

            Yea I got that term wrong. I had to edit that post quite a few times.

            At first I said “bobcat” but then found out that “bobcat” is a “cougar” but about a decade younger. Then I changed it to “rhino” but then found out that that’s just an older gentleman who hunts for younger women. Then I actually re-read the comment and found the correct term, “filf” or “father I’d like (to) f***”.

          • Steven Higgins

            I thought that was dilf as in daddy I’d like to… you know the rest.
            On another note what if the sex is another way of strengthening the character? Like sleeping with a certain apostle raises a specific stat.? It would be kind of interesting.

          • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

            That would be an unusual but interesting mechanic. Or not just stats but for certain battle skills too, like sleeping with the older gentleman for magic based skills and stats, or the dual bladed guy for speed and evasion based skills and stats. Could make for something quite unique in a way that could not only change your play style but also change how the story progresses due to the relationships you decided to go with.

  • riceisnice

    Isn’t this the game with the giant floating baby heads?

    • Kelohmello

      Yes, Drakengard 1 had giant floating human-eating babies.

  • KuchikiSentou

    Harem-style. Nice.

  • Laith Rem

    ……………………………Huh.

    • Testsubject909

      Well well well… The silent protagonist isn’t so silent now is he?

  • surakian

    Well, this is interesting. Descartes sounds like the nice guy despite being masochistic (though I guess in the bed that might be a bad thing for Zero?) The whole sexual desires thing is out of left field, though

    Edit: jeez I didn’t even see the “not” part of my comment :x

    • Boba Bob

      Wait what? how is him being a masochist not a bad thing in bed? He’s literally the worst to have in bed out of all the male characters followed by the sadist nut, i’m assuming you either accidentally typed the “not” in there, or you’re being sarcastic lol.
      Cause that’s some backwards logic right there.

      • ShadowDivz

        If Zero is sadistic they are a perfect pair.
        Live a little dude. Geez, the way you said it sounds like “trying something new in bed? MADNESS!”

        • Testsubject909

          Quick! Hide every copy and mention of the Kama Sutra!

        • FakkuDesu

          Zero isn’t a sadist though, there are types of sadism, and she doesn’t seem to fit the bill of any type (from what i read/heard).

      • Testsubject909

        Masochism or Sadism is just another trait. How you make use of it is what’s really important or more importantly if you bring these traits to the bedroom.

        If you do, then it depends on the person itself as a trait does not override a person. Do you make use of your sadism or masochism in a way that is appreciated by your partner or not would be the primary question.

        As such. Neither the trait of Masochism or Sadism would indicate if someone is good or bad in bed.

        So, I ask your “not backwards logic”. What makes it that him being masochist makes him bad in bed?

      • surakian

        Crap! I put “not” xD Thank you for telling me I didn’t even notice.

  • DyLaN

    …………At least one of them still have common sense.

    Edit: huh did some1 misunderstand my comment? I mean it tht its good to have a level headed guy in their team….

  • Eric

    I feel like they put this in the game just because. Obviously, I don’t know much about it or if it even holds significance in the plot, but it honestly just seems like they wanted to be “out there” without any intent besides being just that.

    • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

      So?

      • Eric

        I just find it in bad taste is all.

        • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

          Unlike all the murder and occultism and deviancy in past Drakengard games?

    • puchinri

      I don’t think this is in bad taste. For a better comparison to me. . . Killer is Dead, Mondo being a gigolo basically isn’t in bad taste. Those gigolo glasses? Yeah, that’s bad taste. As long as this remains story/character-specific, and doesn’t turn into “look!!! you can see through their clothes and stufff!!!” out of nowhere, it’s in interesting taste. (Then again, I’m also expecting Suda to play around with the Bond trope and not just follow it straight, sort of like this is hardly following sexuality as is usual straight.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

    Hmm, on one hand, I feel it somewhat unfortunate that one of the somewhat rare leading female protagonist (that I know of) must be a harlot. On the other, deviancy is par the course in Drakengard.

    • Testsubject909

      Damned if you do, damned if you don’t huh?

      Let a woman be sexually free to do what the hell she wants with her body I say.

      And on a perverted end with a slight comical tone. How do I sign up to be an apostle?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

        I’m just cautious of unfortunate implications of one of the few leading ladies in video games being a whore/sex fiend but I admit I’m probably worrying more than I should.

        And I wouldn’t be surprised if becoming an apostle(if it isn’t something you’re born into) would be an unpleasant process and would require a Master’s degree in sociopathy.

        • FakkuDesu

          Hey hey, there is no need to judge the game so early (although i do agree that the concept does sound messed up), it’s not like they’ll put some giggolo harem gangbang scenes in there or something, i’m guessing it’ll be just small hints and implications.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

            I’m just being wary of sex based marketing. If her sexual desires feel more like a character trait/sign that the world sucks then okay, If it feels more as “fanservice” then that’s what’d bother me.

        • Testsubject909

          Don’t worry. I get the whole “Oh boy… is this going to be sex sells or is this actually going to be an interesting character trait not seen done well before but done well here” kind of deal.

          But I say… We don’t get a lot of this sort of character. Yes, even if it’s just for pandering and sex sells… It’s variety.

          Variety can open up new doors, new ideas and new protagonists through. At least on the hopeful side which I tend to side with more often then not.

          And I would imagine that becoming an Apostle would be an unpleasant deal. But again. Jokeful nature here: But dem benefits!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

            Sharing one woman with a flower for an eye with at least 4 other men(one being a good deal older) is a benfit? XD

          • Testsubject909

            If you’re open minded, it can be.

        • puchinri

          She would have to be paid for it to be a whore, but I’d suspect she’d be paying them?

          The problem here is, some people will view her explicitly as a whore and that has nothing to do with her, just ignorant people.

          And there’s nothing wrong with a leading lady in a video game being a sex fiend, so long as she isn’t defined just by her gender as a sex fiend (in-game, “she’s a slut” and blah blah blah). Of course, given she still seems to have more personality outside of that from what we’ve heard, I think we’re good on that front~.

    • ShadowDivz

      Guy has harem:Awesome.
      Girl has harem: Harlot?
      As long as she’s kicking ass and not waiting for someone to save her, i don’t care what she does in her free time nor with who.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

        For the record, I don’t think a male getting around is a good idea either. I think what I’m most wary of is her supposed promiscuity being more of some form of sex-based marketing and less about how rotten the world of Drakengard is. Of course, if Zero manages to be compelling enough in other ways then I’d willing to ignore the promiscuity even if the trait existed because sex sells.

    • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

      It’s not like this Zero character is the only female protagonist in a video game – but so far it looks like she IS the only female protagonist who’s also sexually assertive, so that is a refreshing change imo.

      And yeah, male heroes who bang lots of chicks are a dime a dozen. What’s wrong with turning the tables? This is a badass fantasy game, not real life. I don’t much respect promiscuity in people of either gender in the real world, but it’s still a fun fantasy.

      I mean, not that I wouldn’t mind seeing a video game protagonist (male or female) being depicted as being in a loving, stable relationship either, but. Maybe not in the bleak, perverse world of Drakengard.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Wilder/100002008494048 Nicholas Wilder

        I don’t mind her being openly sexual if it really feels like an actual character trait and not sexualization for the sake of money.
        Ex: I don’t mind the ladies of Dead or Alive being gratuitously proportioned but I do mind when suddenly the Lesyay becomes ramped up to 12 and they’re dancing on poles and playing butt battles for no real rhyme or reason.

        And I don’t presume to judge real people but as a Fantasy story that I may want to immerse myself, I just want to hope the sex is more of an actual narrative aspect and not some cheap sex sells hook. If it does that then I’d be on board.

        • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

          Yes, I’m sure the old-man sex slave idea was a carefully calculated business decision.

    • puchinri

      Supposing she has her own sexual agency, I think it’d be a huge step forward. This reminds me a little of Remember Me, where not only did they have a hard time finding a publisher cuz “female lead is a no no!”, but because she even shares a kiss with someone (and men simply can’t handle the idea of playing as a female especially in a relationship or something ridiculous).

      Given the team behind it, I don’t expect it to be handled cheaply (and it’d be a bit hard to do). I actually wonder how the protag will be viewed in the world around her though.

  • new_tradition

    I think they mentioned before Zero was promiscuous, and most of the comments about the Apostles in the last article pretty much guessed this conclusion xD

    I actually really am all for having a female character be sex positive. For some reason it’s popular in Japanese media for a female character’s first time/love/whatever be with the MC (and games with pair endings especially, pretty much no matter who you aim for, they’re all inexperience with love, wtf? xD), and I’m bored with that. Makes it seem like if a girl isn’t a virgin they’re trash, or it’s something to apologize for, or some other demeaning attitude.

    (That’s something P3P did surprisingly well with in terms of the FMC; she’s free to pursue romance with more than one male like the MC can romance more than one female. But the FMC is a playa’ in that she can go after more than one guy at the same time with no consequences. Frickin’ awesome xD)

    Anyways, looking at the kind of setting Drakengard 3 is, there’s no time to fall in love and woefully yearn for that one special man. If these urges are something Zero has to get taken care of, and there are willing helpers, than go for it, lol.

    That said, while all this information is interesting, I highly doubt we’re in for some graphic scenes, or anything beyond hints in terms of sexual relations. Like, if you played NieR, you know Kaine is a hermaphrodite, but it’s mentioned so vaguely in maybe one or two scenes, it’s easy to forget, or possibly not even understand the first time. For me, I knew because I followed the gaming news before release. So same as here, we know this and if we can play the game, we can make some educated guesses about scenes and what not, but I think that’s it.

    • Testsubject909

      It is new and refreshing in that aspect. While yes I imagine there’ll be the usual “it’s fanservice in our face” well…

      You get your choice. She’s virginal and thus appeals to the male fantasy or she’s not virginal which appeals to the male fantasy.

      Whichever route you go, you’ll appeal to some male demographic, so might as well go the unbeaten path.

      • FakkuDesu

        Though let’s face it, this idea might ruin many of their chances to get good sales, as many male otaku would be completely turned off by the idea, and most casual rpg fans aren’t really going to find this appealing, so they kind of screwed themselves over, but hey, we’ll have to wait and see the final result, at least the graphics and gameplay do look promising, right?

        • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

          Eh, we haven’t seen any gameplay (though I don’t see them straying too far from the previous games) and the graphics… I’ll let other decide for themselves. But the final result should be interesting to see.

          • Testsubject909

            I look forward to a video trailer.

        • Testsubject909

          Allow me to ruin some dreams while I’m at it if certain types of people happen to pass by this comment.

          Hey, random Otaku with an unhealthy obsession over virginal characters.

          Yeah, that idol/voice actress/singer you like? You’re not going to go out with her, most of what you see is a product, you’re actively ruining her life, she’s eventually gonna get a boyfriend and move on and piss off from attempting any sort of retribution from having your so-called “pure innocent heart” trampled over because guess what. It’s called having a life.

          Now, I understand liking kind hearted girls. I understand the appeal of a virgin. Get your head out of your little cloud though and brace for impact with harsh reality.

          Alternatively
          You like that anime/video game/manga/original character?

          Eh… enjoy your waifu. I got nothing.

          • ShadowDivz

            *voice breaking*
            You…You shut up! You don’t know what your talking about! She is a pure hearted innocent lady who has never been soiled by a man!
            She’s….She’s my pure flower!!!
            RAOFFAGLAR!
            *dashes at testsubject909 wielding a knife in a fit of crazy otaku rage*

            Seriously, i never got that. I mean, yeah she voices your favorite character but there is no need to go all stalker.

          • Testsubject909

            The female crowd is just as bad. There was one time where a male voice actor was stalked by a fan, when he asked not to be followed I think he was the one who got reprimanded for asking not to be stalked. I think…

            Crazy Fans are fucking weird in… anywhere in the world really. But I mainly get to hear that from Japan… And Bieber fans.

            Edit: And Twilight fans… And some Harry Potter fans back when…

            Edit 2: By the way, love your profile pic.

          • ShadowDivz

            Id just plow her. Hentai has thought me many things, mainly your penis is the ultimate tool for anything.
            Or in the case of Gantz, let your self get killed and see if she follows you into the world of the dead.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Come on. We can run this discussion without looking completely like a junior high boy’s bathroom stall. :P

          • ShadowDivz

            Thanks, it’s Waddles from Gravity Falls. (not an anime)

          • Testsubject909

            Cool name for a sharply dressed swine.

      • puchinri

        I think the thing is, not being virginal doesn’t inherently appeal to the male fantasy at all, while virginal is kind of that (most of the time). Being not virginal appeals pretty well to the female and male fantasy (and given our culture, globally, especially to the female fantasy).

        • Testsubject909

          Trust me, I’ve talked to a lot of guy who would put “being non-virginal” into their fantasy.

          • puchinri

            Haha, I can understand why, but I mean in general, not being virginal doesn’t coincide more with it (or at least how society/culture see it) and that it’s also more of an equality with female fantasies than being virginal, which, well, yay all around institutionalized fantasy for everyone?

    • ShadowDivz

      For the kids at home and people with a case of TL;DR:
      James Bondish female:Good.
      Pure virgin we are used to seeing in anime:Overplayed.

    • Steven Higgins

      @new_tradition Still waiting for the Persona game where the character’s gender doesn’t matter when it comes to perusing romantic relationships, even if some of them end up being one-sided on the protagonists part. P2:IS did it with Tatsua and Jun but I’d like to see more options in future entries.

      • puchinri

        I really want this. I hoped for that with P4G (given Kanji and even Brosuke would be perfect for that).

    • puchinri

      Wonderfully put~. I agree entirely, and I’m more excited now actually, thinking of it that way.

  • Hossi Blumengaarten

    the original drakengard was some crazy stuff, incest and pediphilia
    damn, the american version was censored so sometimes the cutscenes made no sense
    I like how they had those other dimension beings but then they turned out to be giant babies or something

    • FakkuDesu

      Well if the original game had pedophilia and incest then this doesn’t come as much of a surprise, guess they’re just going for more weirdness.

      • Testsubject909

        A female protagonist who is sexually active is weird?

        • FakkuDesu

          Sadist/masochist/old man who’s pro at dem sex/etcetcetc

          • Testsubject909

            Bit late reply but.

            You know… That’s actually pretty common. It’s just not put out at the forefront. You need to know where to dig to find out that… There be a loooot of people like that.

  • Joshua Myers

    God i cant wait Drakengard’s been one of my favorite games ever since the first game. I hope this one will turn out to be awesome

  • ShadowDivz

    the Apostles serve the role of… satiating Zero’s sexual desires.
    *looks at a picture of Zero*

    So, do i just leave my resume on the table… or…?

    • Testsubject909

      You might need to pass a physical examination, a written exam and a mock combat scenario to prove your worth on the battlefield.

      • SaveTheDay

        “On the battlefield” (If you know what I mean)

        • Sperium3000

          *BA-DUM-TISH*

        • http://www.facebook.com/trevor.nicolaysen Trevor Nicolaysen

          In the beddlefield?

    • NTaiyokun

      Don’t. Knowing Drakengard, it probably consists of BDSM.

      • Sakurazaki

        Unless, you know, he/she is into that kind of thing…

  • http://www.youtube.com/Lyonharvestmoonfan Eduardo Rocha

    What… the… fridge!?

    • Testsubject909

      Well, I know I ask that myself every now and again. I mean my fridge is leaking water from time to time despite being properly sealed up everywhere. Maybe it’s accumulating some extra frozen moisture in the back and that just sort of randomly defrosts and causes the puddle because the doors are properly sealed and the food inside is proper cooled…

  • Luis Camargo

    Can anyone tell me if this game was already confirmed for NA ?
    I recently bought Drakengard 2 and I will probably go hunting for the first one too.

    • Anime10121

      Nope not yet, but hope for it at E3 (though its doubtful, they usually just spring Drakengard releases on us outta nowhere, with little to no marketing).

  • Always No. 9

    Is it just me…..or does Cento look like Nowe from Drakengard 2?……in….terestng…..that is. #9

  • コルセット

    So she’s a sexually active female protagonist. Why is this controversial, exactly? Do male gamers expect all female video game characters to be nuns? Pathetic.

    • Testsubject909

      I can explain why controversy in two, maybe three words:

      Female.
      Sex.
      (Optional third word) Japan.

      The slightly less short version.

      Whenever we talk about the depiction of a female character in any media, this will attract the attention of a specific movement and whoever knows of it as it’s unfortunately a hottly debated subject that’s currently present in the general mindset of the populace and of which gaming has been in the hot seat every now and again.

      Sex. It’s sex. It’s raw, it used to be much more taboo but it still has a bit of taboo with it. Pair it up with the aforementioned topic and you get a bit of an explosive combination.

      Japan. It’s alien. It’s not here. It’s culture is taken into account. Most of what people consume from Japan visually will be taken into account. Stereotypes and whatnot will be taken into account.

      As for the very lengthy version… Do I really have to?

      I ask because anyone who knows me knows that this will turn into a huge… huuuuuge… wall of text. I would say common sense should be enough to understand why controversy.

      • Derek

        Japan is not what you call liberal sex lovers. Not compared to the US. Remember shows like HBO have more sex than ATX with a couple of exceptions. And with JRPGs, this goes double since aside from cocktease, there is rarely blatant sex happening.

        • Testsubject909

          Yes, but that’s not what I meant by Japanese culture. I should’ve specified. Japanese culture as viewed by Westerners.

          For Japan, I’d imagine this is quite revolutionary… When I think that something like Virgin Fleet exists. Yeah, Japan desperately needs a protagonist like her to shake things up socially… would be what I’d normally say but then I started to think about the whole carnivore women/herbivore men phenomena…

    • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

      Well I definitely don’t. There should be more characters, both male and female, who can express their sexuality without backlash.

    • http://www.facebook.com/trevor.nicolaysen Trevor Nicolaysen

      There is a distinct difference between expressing sexuality and having what sounds like a squadron of sex-monkeys fighting for you. I find the idea odd and inappropriate regardless, although this is fiction, and therefore perfectly okay as long as it’s observed by people with good enough judgement not to emulate it in unhealthy ways.

      But in real life… what happens between five conscenting adults is no one else’s business anyway. Although less killing is generally appreciated.

      • amagidyne

        Inappropriate for what?

        • http://www.facebook.com/trevor.nicolaysen Trevor Nicolaysen

          I personally find the idea of anyone having what seem to amount to religious servants disgusting. Plus she is a multiple amputee with a flower growing out of her eye socket, has a violent temper, and fights harder when she is covered in other people’s blood. Think about that in a less cel-shaded and artsy format.

          • puchinri

            It just sounds ridiculous. But kind of hilarious too.

          • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

            I guess if you don’t like dark fantasy media then don’t consume it?

          • http://www.facebook.com/trevor.nicolaysen Trevor Nicolaysen

            I love dark fantasy. But as is natural for most things similar (fetishes) that doesn’t mean they aren’t by nature disturbing, raunchy or destructive.

    • puchinri

      Kinda sad, huh? Albeit, I think whenever sex comes up, it has some of this level of controversy, but some of it is very sad in this case.

  • NightzeroAX

    Oh so no baby killers or molesters? Im cool with that. Hopefully Cain makes an appearance.

    • Testsubject909

      Well if you want baby killers you can always play one of the Ultima games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Obb/100001994017630 Jimmy Dean

    THIS is how you make games best, Japan. Stop trying to copy Gears of War.

    • Testsubject909

      You should say that to a few western developers too.

      Copying Gears of War is not limited to just one country.

    • amagidyne

      THIS is how you make a non-sequitur, Siliconera. Stop looking at my nose.

  • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

    And I’m assuming she will always be the dominant one in these “relationships”.

    I can dig it.

    I don’t mind if she is sexualized in her designs or mannerisms (from my male bias), but as long as she is the master of them, then that’s even better. Sexy for her own sake and not a man’s gives her a higher ranking in my book.

    • Testsubject909

      Don’t see a lot of Domme’s as main characters do we?

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        Other than Bayonetta (kinda), I really can’t think of anyone who is close.

        • Boba Bob

          Nah bayonetta isn’t really a “domme”, she’s just, more like a female dante, and dante isn’t a dom, he’s just confident and aggressive, also funny and isn’t a douche.

    • ShadowDivz

      Nothing is sexier than a woman who’s confident.
      I wish we had more “in charge of their sexyness” in games.

      • Testsubject909

        Well, that depends on the woman and her traits. Really, play to your strength is what I would say.

        Some women look very, VERY sexy without having to put a confident front. Others look very, VERY sexy by doing so. Depends on the woman.

        Same goes for men I would guess. But you’d need to ask a woman for that.

    • puchinri

      I don’t want her sexualized (ie objectified) in her design and mannerisms), but I don’t mind if she wears her sexuality out there as she pleases.

      • Lexaus_the_Alchemist

        I would agree with you but your definition of “sexualized/sexualize” is incorrect. Sexualize means “to render sexual; to endow with sexual characteristics”. Giving her sexual characteristics/mannerisms does not explicitly mean it’s “objectifying” her, which would really mean to reduce her existence to nothing more than an “object of/used for sex”. I think her design was made to show that she has total control of herself and will do what (and with whom) she pleases.

        Unfortunately we do not have enough info to say whether this was the artist’s intention or not.

  • Aoshi00

    Awesome art by Fujisaka Kimihiko as always.. also can’t wait to hear the music from the Nier composer.. I wish Drakengard 3 would be up for pre-order soon.. same for Disorder 6 and Killer is Dead (only the US ver is up and not 100% sure if Xseed would include dual track). Make it Cero D or Z, don’t wuss out :)! (still a bit peeved the Jpn Tomb Raider was censored even w/ Cero Z)

    • Testsubject909

      Oh hey… it’s on a sushi…

      Took me that long to figure out what your panda bear was laying atop of…

    • Luis Camargo

      Is there a confirmation regarding this title being launch in the US or anywhere outside Japan ?

      • Aoshi00

        Not yet, but I figure S-E should be localizing it as well like the first Drakengard or Neir since they’re funding it.. hopefully US release won’t be too far behind..

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    Every new tidbit of info I see on this game makes me wish even harder that I could forget how awful the first Drakengard was.

  • Vash bane

    opposite of killer is dead XD

    • Testsubject909

      They should meet up at a bar, talk, flirt, not get down and dirty with each other and just go back to their respective game after a fine night of wine and chatting and sexual tension without payoff.

      • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

        That would be hilarious lol

  • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

    Wondering if this lessens the chances of a possible localization? Am I looking at having to import ( >_<)?

    • Testsubject909

      I certainly hope it gets localized.

      It’ll be nice to have a female character openly be sexual.

      There’s a difference between openly sexual and sexualized. Just to get some people thinking here on why this character is different.

      • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

        Dx I really hope it does.

        I could not agree more.

        That is a good point! It will be really interesting to see how they integrate it into the story line or if it’s a side thing to make her stick out character wise.

    • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

      I seriously doubt this has any impact on the game’s chances of localization. Far sicker shit gets published in M-rated games all the time. The only people who consider this “controversial” are internet man-children who are scared by the thought of a woman enjoying sex.

      • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

        I just have that tinge of fear of the possible let down that it wont. Haha!! So true.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    This game………. It is already glorious. =^_^=

  • Testsubject909

    I wonder how the female crowd is reacting in general, or the otome visual novel dating sim type are reacting to this title… Or the female fans of the Warriors series by Koei since they’d be a bit more accustomed to action oriented games.

    • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

      Can’t say I speak for everyone but I find it a very intriguing and interesting concept.
      Depending on how it plays out in the way of it being a gimmick or well thought out integration into the story line or game play it could be a boon. bane, or simply fall flat. My first thought as I read of “Could this mean visual novel vibe?” and the excitement at such a prospect .. I’m trying to keep it in perspective.
      I mainly play RPGs and otome visual novels so this game appeals to both those sides.
      I also wonder if they might go the Persona social links route. Build relationships and they get stronger type thing.

    • puchinri

      I want to see what they’re thinking and how they’re reacting. Personally, I’m excited and giddy. And the only downfall is that the old man isn’t a sexy old man like I was imagining/wanting, but hey, if he knows what he’s doing then more power to him and Zero.

      What I really can’t wait for, is to see the fanart and how it gets handled by different parties (not just between the female/male crowds, but also in other spectrums).

  • AnimusVox

    Bowchicawowow

  • Taylor Davis

    What did I just readied……………………..I can’t wait to play it!
    (Well I shouldn’t be surprised, it IS a Drakengard game after all.)

    • Testsubject909

      What did you ready?

      • Taylor Davis

        What? I know that drakengard was like for a long time. (if that’s what your asking.) Or what I just readied? (The most weirdest thing I readied was ” the best of the Apostles when it comes to sexual activities”.) Sorry if that didn’t help ^^;

        • Testsubject909

          No… it’s just… the word readied… It means preparing for an activity, to ready yourself.

          If English isn’t your first language, I understand. Read past tense is still written Read, but pronounced Red.

  • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 水木

    I’m still on track for importing this as soon as it becomes available, really impressed by what i’ve seen so far

  • Lazulis

    Well, this is a pretty positive thing (get dem Apostle bootays) so it’s pretty normal/tame compared to that one protagonist who had to prostitute himself to older men.

  • Go2hell66

    Zael from the last story? Is that you!?

    • SauriansMaster!!

      the character artist for drakenguard is the same from the last story. that’s probably why they look similar to you.

  • Sonny Oranga Taing

    This gave me a chuckle, but I can see some people (or websites) being up in arms about this.

    • Testsubject909

      *coughkotakucough*

  • Nickie

    This better be localized or I will hunt some people down, I swear.

    • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

      I will join that hunt!

  • pancho

    heres a link whit pictures of the other guys

    http://cmc.liblo.jp/archives/4464564.html

    • JustThisOne

      Thanks!

      Ack. That old guy gives me the heebie jeebies if he’s considered “the best of the of Apostles” in terms of sexual activies. >__> Is it the stilts? Ladies love the stilts?

      • DyLaN

        Honestly, I’m expecting the oldman to be more like SAHA/Augus than Kalrow lol.

        Let’s not think too much abt it. I don’t want to know the details >_<

      • puchinri

        Hahaha. Yeah, my feelings exactly. I’m guessing he just knows what he doing? Maybe he puts her pleasure first the most? I really do wonder. They’ll probably tell us in-game though. . .

    • Chiupon

      Now i’m just questioning Zero’s taste in men…

      i mean that old man

      really zero

      really?

      u can do better girl.

      • Testsubject909

        If he’s the best at what he does.

        No. No she can’t. Because he’d be the best.

    • new_tradition

      Well maybe once Octa gets off his stilts, he’ll be at the right height to-

      *coughs*

      Deto actually surprises me too. He looks more boy than man as the description initially read. I could sort of see boyish mischievousness escalating to sadism. Sort of.

      • DyLaN

        Haha I was expecting is bishie too but not exactly surprised tht he’s a boy. Saw just enough yandere boys to be not surprised.

  • Pablo Sanchez

    that sword remind me cains

  • Chiupon

    hell yeah

    i want to see all of her harem, though. I will pick two husbandos and make them battle royale for my love.
    One must be real tired of her sister’s shit though.

    • FakkuDesu

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

  • Z3

    I can already see the doujins…..

  • Guest

    so has this series always been perverted or did they ruin another series ? (really asking I don’t know)

    • brian

      Not especially perverted like certain Compile Heart stuff, but they (the first at least) do have some taboo sexual plot elements.

      • Derek

        Compile Heart is blue balls.

      • iota-09

        compile heart – perveted.

        uhhm… what is wrong with this comment? let me think… oh right! it’s so simple!:if you ever played a CH game(as for example neptunia just to say one) you’ll find out that it’s not perverted even if some characters are sadists or tending to pedophilia.

        i mean heck,people said it was maschilist why most of it’s community is of woman(and trans) and the team who i made it had mostly woman in it!

        • brian

          Why reply now?
          And hey, that was a positive to me since I’m a pervert but yeah I’ve played a couple of their games, but not Neptune.
          Funny you should mention that since Neptune seems the most perverted of all mainly due to character designs, especially certain goddess forms.

          • iota-09

            well,except to vert/green heart,trick,and the opening of mk2 thou,there’s pretically nothing of ecchi or similar,you can go play it if you don’t trust me…

            in fact,it seems almost idiotic that someone would say this is less perverted then ch games while they are completely different in every single aspect.

            and about he reason why i commented only now:i’ve seen this page right some hours ago for the first time.

            by the way,of what ch games are YOU talking about?

          • brian

            I gotcha, and um
            Mugen Souls, Loli bath minigame; Agarest 2, massaging; Agarest Senki Marriage, a bunch of CGs.
            These may be minor aspects to those games but this series in general (not this game since we know barely anything about it) is still pretty tame compared to those games above.
            edit: also Neptune, pantsu.

    • Oscar Alberto Abrego Suarez

      LOL new to Drakengard no doubt.

      Aniways God is right you are a prude if you think just because the lead has sexual tendencies that the game is sudenly perverted now.

  • Testsubject909

    Huh… It just dawned on me but… You know, you folks worried about Decartes and his masochistic aspect.

    ….

    I know the perfect example… Think… Klingons… Worf to be specific.

    Worf has a masochistic streak of his own… Never stopped him from being one of the badasses of the show.

  • shuyai

    wait really?? i mean it is fine if she pick one of them to date like otome game or even date a few of them but have sex with all of them? thats super bad even if the main char is guy and apostle is girls.

    surely thats not true? except they try to be controversial as marketing?? i mean they can justified her lust as a side effect of the dragon but that still disappointing

    • Lemon

      I think they were serious when they said Zero was promiscuous, so her sleeping around with all of them just for pleasure doesn’t sound too much of a stretch. Drakengard is one of those series that aren’t afraid to tackle or include heavier and more mature themes, so it’s fair to not expect the ‘traditional’ kinds of stories or character traits.

      On the other hand, her sister is the complete opposite of her though, if it’s any consolation. Needless to say, I’m curious how this game will do in Japan – where pure virgin heroines are worshipped and girls who even dare to have thoughts of other men who are not the player’s self-inserts are shamed and constantly damned for being “used goods”.

      • Derek

        She has a steady relationship with Nero. But Zero is pretty much going to push the rating to a CERO Z. A first for Japanese first games.

        Bloody hell Young Gan Gan, the manga publisher for Drakengard 3 manga had a rape scene to start.

      • iota-09

        i highly doubt a theme could be considered mature only when there’s a girl or a men who is obsessed with sex,i mean look at wolfguy,that’s a perfectly fine manga/novel where harsh themes as mafia and raping get bonded perfectly good ‘ol style romance-love.

        couoldn’t they do something similar of this game instead of making the protagonist a nympho for who-know-why reason?

    • amagidyne

      Why would that be bad?

    • Neophoton

      Welcome to Drakengard.

    • Ni

      This not so shocking since this is coming from Drakengard

    • Warboss Aohd

      ya are clearly new to dis franchise, this ain’t so bad when ya consider da first game’s party consisted o’ The Protagonist, whom woz a bloodthirsty Sociopath (he enjoyed killin’ his enemiez), a Lumberjack who woz a pedophile, a Elf Woman who LITERALLY ate babiez, a genocidal Priest, an’ a…..Little Boy who woz da only one who wozn’t out o’ hiz gourd.

    • Firekitty

      What I wanna know is why you make it sound as if it would be any less ‘bad’ if it were a male hero with a bunch of female apostles.

      Or why consensual sex between a bunch of adults (..except maybe Deito, he does look a little young…) is ‘super bad’.
      Personally I think this is an interesting tact for the series to take – they’re obviously going a bit overboard, like Bayonetta did, but god knows there are few enough mature and sexually assured heroines in gaming.

      • shuyai

        i am not trying to “sound as if it would be any less ‘bad’ if it were a male hero with a bunch of female apostles”, the point i am trying to make is both male and female having sex with several partner at the same time is a douche/slut and an unlikeable trait. because i know people will say “oh finally a mature female character because she have sex alot with alot of people so she is like the best character in all jrpg” and that is just shallow.
        i mean its totally fine if she is not virgin or has a number of partner before but a squad of sex gigolo? i just cannot see how thats an admirable trait like everyone saying.

        • Testsubject909

          Hmm…. This is a lengthy debate and one that might not end up being very safe for work.

          If ever we meet again somewhere else, that is to say in another Drakengard 3 article, I’ll gladly start up the debate again with you on the topic.

          • shuyai

            lol you were gona type a whole essay on this ? well lets meet again in another place, another time and another article.

          • iota-09

            wait here just a.. month.
            i want to participate too!
            i mean,i want to study psychology,and if isn’t this a good chance of knowing how people reacts to these themes…

  • Enma_Kozato

    Soooo anyone want to place bets on who is the least satisfying under the sheets? Based on these descriptions, it sounds like Cento is the obvious vanilla man.

    • Kittymimiko

      He may be that good guy that satisfy her at first being a S and then deredere towards him. He may be her “true ending” we never saw coming :P

    • puchinri

      It’s really tough. I’d feel like it’d have to be the sadist, because unless that’s the kink she’s playing for at the time, then he’s not looking to indulge her, right?

  • Angryshooter

    I hope this game will come to the U.S side soon after it launches in japan.

  • Setsu Oh

    who takes the bet on? will it be sex like in the witcher 1 or or like in fallout3?
    i really doubt they will go as far as Fahrenheit. no one did.

  • Hinataharem

    I wouldn’t mind having her life.

    • Testsubject909

      How many Apostles would you like?

      Edit: To note as well: Hinataharem. How fitting.

  • Prithivi

    Wow, now I love this game even more!

  • Sperium3000

    Oh man, you just know that if the genders were reversed there would be riots on the street and FOX News would be calling this game a sex simulator.

    • https://twitter.com/A_Beast_of_Prey Equinox K

      And then find some way to blame the president for this hyper violent sex simulator coming stateside, such is the logic of Fox News.

    • Testsubject909

      No. Instead there’ll be riots on the street and FOX News is going to go and have tons of interviews with femi-nazis as they outcry sexism is everywhere.

  • https://twitter.com/A_Beast_of_Prey Equinox K

    ….wait is this what I’ve been missing from this series? I need to go ahead and play the copy of the first game I got.

  • puchinri

    Yesss. I love this. I want to pre-order it now.

  • Crimson_Cloud

    It’s even more interesting how boldly everything is said. You needed more full stops to make it more dramatic.

  • gRiMmYdArK13

    Another thing to wait for is the materials book

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004160287608 Jade Curtiss

    Well, i want some female apostles in game :3

  • WyattEpp

    Can I trade them in for women?

    • Sylveria

      I suspect we’ll see at least one generically hot female show up. It just seems like that kind of game.

      • Testsubject909

        We already have a hot female. It’s the lead protagonist.

  • XiaomuArisu

    XD
    the f?!?
    This is so awesome crazy!
    I want it!

    • http://twitter.com/myprivilege john shrapnel

      If the sexes were reversed, you’d scream “MISOGYNY” at the top of your lungs.

      • XiaomuArisu

        Nope
        why should I?

  • Warboss Aohd

    She must be one o’ dose chaos humiez o’ Slaanesh.

  • iota-09

    i seriously don’t get this, how can a character with a past like that be trasformed into… THIS! it’s the total opposite of what you would expect from a human being.

    oh but right,is she tecnically 100% human(prothesis doesn’t count)?

    but i already see people starting to talk about selfish and ignorant people saying “well,DUH,love doesn’t exist it’s all aboout SEXSEXSEXSEXSEXSXES(continue in an infinite circle-like loop)

    well,guees what?it is like religion,that’s why it appears to not exist,nobody believes in it anymore…

    by the way the last part of the post was just a pre-caution.

  • Nicholas Martinez

    I wish Nowe was one of the Apostles. I bet he is extremely kinky in bed.

  • puchinri

    Haha, well put. It’s sad because I can see it going down exactly how you stated. But morbid curiosity has got the better of me so now I’m waiting for them to bring this up.

  • Asura

    If gaming websites are going to be opinion-based, I’d much prefer they try to criticize even if they fail (and if hopefully they can learn in the process) than just maintain the status quo which is more horrible and putrid than people who just really need to go and take feminism 101 at their community college before writing.

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    Not to defend Gawker or Internet Feminism (not to be confused with the real thing) but how could even Kotaku not see this as a sexually liberated woman, i.e. exactly what feminists want?

  • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

    Why throw in the whole American thing? Really not needed… I would find it very funny if he turned out to be from another country. Also the person commented as a guest so the world will never know.

  • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

    *sigh* Sorry, I’m not good at internet sarcasm detection (._.;; )

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    mmmmmmmm actually I’d rather gaming websites keep their writing apolitical altogether than try and turn it into community college feminism 101

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