Pokkén Fighters Might Be That Mysterious Pokémon Game With Lucario

By Spencer . August 20, 2013 . 1:25am

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A new Pokémon title was teased during Pokémon Game Show with a brief image of Lucario and Blaziken about to face off. The title was not formally announced, but Siliconera believes it may be called Pokkén Fighters or Pokkén Tournament.

 

Siliconera uncovered trademarks for Pokkén Fighters and Pokkén Tournament filed by The Pokémon Company in the US. Two bipedal Pokémon about to fight? Sounds kind of like a Pokémon fighting game to me and it and there are enough fighting type Pokémon for this game to exist. And that flag in the top right hand corner looks like the logo for fighting Pokémon from the Pokémon Trading Card game. Hmmm…

 

Siliconera contacted The Pokémon Company and are awaiting a response.


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  • Sentsuizan_93

    And my interest has piqued quite considerably reading this. Can’t wait to hear more.

    • Demandred

      I’m completely the opposite. I was hoping it was an RPG for the Wii U (either sequel to XD or something different ) and have no real enthusiasm for fighting games outside a few key franchises.

      • The Watcher

        Why would it be an RPG when X/Y is around the corner?

        • Renaldi Saputra

          maybe he meant something like Colosseum..

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            which wont happen

          • Renaldi Saputra

            although it was really good for pokemon games as good as Mystery Dungeon series

        • EmptyStar

          We had Pokemon Battle Revolution released really close to DP. I guess it’s a marketing tactic, releasing one handheld game, then a console game to go along with it that you need to transfer your Pokemon over to use.

          So yeah, I’m personally hoping for another Stadium game. I’m a big fan of fighters, but this would be ridiculous, haha. I feel like Pokemon really must’ve jumped the shark if they’re making a fighter.
          =(

          • Langdon Herrick

            Why? The entire point of the series is to catch the cute bastards and make them fight each other. How is a Pokemon fighting game any more shark jumpy than Pokemon Snap?

      • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

        that not happening on Wii U.
        Game Freak Director already said it wont

        • Rasputing

          Do you have a source?

        • http://takopako.tumblr.com takopako

          no…Masuda said that there would never be a main series pokemon game on consoles. Pokemon XD is not a main series pokemon game. Therefore a sequel wouldnt be either.

        • Lynx

          XD and Coliseum were side games, not main games. Main games aren’t as plot focused as those were.

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            uh yes they are. It just the getting gym badges, trading, training, battling and catching Pokemon is the main selling point.

            There won’t be another XD or Colosseum. Those games failed to sell enough for it to be considered.

          • Lynx

            Umm…Was referring to how XD/Coliseum had the main plot and not much else. Other games have say, Battle Tower, Game Corner, events, etc.

            Gym Badges are what make a main game. According to this logic that make XD/Coliseum main games, Battle Rev and Stadium would be considered main games. This meaning the only side games are Pinball, Trozei, Snap, Rumble and the Mystery Dungeon games.

            Unless you want to say that Mystery Dungeon is a main game as well?
            PS: There was only one Gym in Orre, and it didn’t award Badges.

          • Rasputing

            I’d disagree with you. I’ve found that that sales were roughly 1.8 million (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_pokemon#Sales. Note that this doesn’t include EU sales, which are unknown) This is quite good consider GC wasn’t the most popular console. The original MD games, on the other hand, have about 3.08 mil copies sold (source: http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/07/25/nintendo-sales-update). Again, given that EU sales aren’t included in Colosseum’s sales, they really aren’t that far off. In addition, Colosseum had good overall reception while MD’s was all over the place.

          • Suicunesol

            Main games are intended to introduce a new generation of Pokemon and to create a new generation of Pokemon fans. Neither XD nor Colosseum do this. In fact, no game introduces new Pokemon except the main games on the handhelds. A new generation is a sign of a main game. (Or a remake/update of a main game is also a main game.)

          • Renaldi Saputra

            yeah, main games only focused on fighting trainers, collect gym badges, beating champion, complete your pokedex, and compete with your friends or another ppl via internet.. also joining events in order to get rare items, shiny pokemon, and so on.. that’s why they sold so high..

            meanwhile in spin-off games (technically MD series and Colloseum), you have to complete the story and find the secrets of the game..

      • Sardorim

        Agree. A Pokemon rpg on the Wii U would help Wii U sales so much.

        • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

          yeah i wonder why GameCube didn’t sell better than it did when it had XD and Colosseum.

  • Renaldi Saputra

    hmm, card battle related?
    somehow reminds me of Digimon Digital Card Battle/Arena which the battle are virtualized

  • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

    Pokken Pag Pournament

  • LightGenx
    • Renaldi Saputra

      I also remember the MUGEN game

      wait, maybe this is originally an arcade machine game in Japan

      • Seraph

        I remembered making stages from Type-Wild for MUGEN. (Was known as Saiyajin Mui there.)

        I should get back into stagemaking one of these days…

        • s07195

          Whoa, where can I download your stages? I still play Mugen.

          • Seraph

            http://saiyajinmui.mugen-infantry.net/

            I remembered even asking the person who made Type-Wild if I could convert the stages for MUGEN and got the ok.

          • s07195

            Wow, thanks a lot! Any character recommendations, BTW? I seem to always download unbalanced characters. :P

          • Seraph

            Get to know a few good character authors (eg. P.O.T.S, etc) and you should be able to go from there.

            Back on topic though regarding the game. A Pokemon fighting game would certainly be a first for the Pokemon Company, seeing that Type-Wild is a doujin game.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            hmm, but they usually collaborated with another Nintendo characters.. so it became Super Smash Bross

          • Seraph

            Which interestingly enough also incorporated itself (like every other fighting game) into MUGEN.

          • s07195

            Someone made Alteisen as a fighting character? 0_0

        • ShawnOtakuSomething

          mugen…I made char for it also

        • RichyGaming

          Shiki would defeat any pokemon with his mystic eyes activated… except Magikarp.

          • Seraph

            Or any Pokemon resembling a chair.

  • domonkun

    LOL, totally reminds me of Type Wild, that Street Fighter-esque Pokemon fighter by one of the ex-animators of the show. This one seems different though, since it’ll apparently be more Tekken-style. If it even is a fighter in the first place O_o

    • Aerii

      Type Wild is really by one of the ex-animators of the show? Or is that just something you heard.

  • Guest

    Lucario will use Hadouken

  • http://shadious.tumblr.com/ Vince

    The King of Pocket Fist/Paw/Claw/Wing Tournament.

  • AndyLC

    I really, really, really, reaaaaaally hope there’s a pokemon with a 360 degree grab. But that won’t happen…

    • Fitzkrieg

      Machamp has 4 arms to throw you with.

  • Robgoro

    Awesome news!

  • Beta

    A full Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness-esque Pokemon game with all the Pokemon being catchable where you can battle like the anime by controlling your Pokemon with the control stick and doing actions yourself (Dodging, etc.)? A man can dream… ;_;
    Something along the line of this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYJ3RJm9wzQ

    Imagine this with online multiplayer D8

    • Renaldi Saputra

      this is medarot?

      • Beta

        Indeed, it is. But I meant the gameplay style.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          hmm I think it won’t suit for pokemon..
          pokemon with SRW style battle just don’t meet each other

          • Beta

            I was thinking more of 360-degrees movement of your Pokemon and assigning all 4 attacks to each of the ABXY buttons and jumping, blocking, etc. for shoulder buttons. 1 on 1 fights, of course, and with online multi-player.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            hmm interestng enough.. but for that kind of game, the risk is.. not all pokemon is playable.. it can be just 40-50 pokemon are playable

          • Beta

            Yeah, implementing all 700+ (if they included X/Y Pokemons) would be truly hard and would take years. But a man can dream XD

    • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

      I lost it where you said Anime

      • Beta

        By anime that I meant that everything is realtime, not turn-based.

        • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

          that not what I meant
          by anime you mean what see anime in terms of
          battling

          • Beta

            Yes, something along those lines.

  • Jon McGuire

    Pokemon x Tekken?

    • Renaldi Saputra

      seeing from the title, could probably..

    • PreyMantis

      = Pokken

    • Göran Isacson

      holy shit that is awesome enough to balance just on the orecipice of “too good to be true” and”too good a businessopportunity to pass up”. I do hope it will be the latter.

    • Stephen

      More like the Poke (from the Japanese Pocket Monsters) and ken (from the Japanese word for fist)

  • Kalis Konig

    I figured that already based on how close the pokemon were standing together. The distance in the stadium like games has always had them further apart. Can’t wait for this. Hopefully we can get at least a 40mon roster. Assuming this is restricted to the more humanoid pokemon that would be a pretty good number.

    • NintendoPSX

      If I don’t get my Absol I’ll be pissed!

    • AndyLC

      If Koffing was playable, hahah

      • Fitzkrieg

        Koffing would shoot close range smoke puffs and perform headbutts/tackles for his normals and have an jumping normal that hits all around him for cross-up use.

        Specials would be things like dropping Smog clouds and Sludge puddles at varying distances that poison the opponent if walked into. He’d probably have a Sludge Bomb projectile super that flies in an arc and a high damage (to both players) counterattack super in Explosion, too.

  • shafiq95

    Here’s hoping it plays like Tales RPG

    • Renaldi Saputra

      never

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        How about like Monster Hunter

        • Renaldi Saputra

          pokemon is about catching pokemon and battlng trainer with pokemon, not killing pokemon.. so, also no…

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            How about like Xenoblade then

          • Renaldi Saputra

            I don’t know about Xenoblades.. but it seems the game have something like weapons and armors.. so maybe pokemon doesn’t suit in that type of game..

            Except if GameFreak is brave to make it like Digimon World X aka World 4

  • Grape Monet

    I KNEW IT!!!

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    I called it!! its going to be hyped.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      if it’s really a fighting game, then not all pokemon is playable.. only fighting type pokemon

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        pokemon that have no lags,4 lags,or wings can’t fight but the the rest is fine

        • http://takopako.tumblr.com takopako

          its possible for non-bipedal pokemon to be in a fighting game…

        • Landale

          Wings should be fine, so long as the winged Pokemon in question relies on close ranged attacks.
          Just applying the limitations of “Bipedal, unless hovering in which case arms required. Not primarily flight based. Height greater than 3′ but less than 7′. And Ditto.” I come up with 132 possible fighters, not counting any I may have forgotten nor any that may come up in X & Y.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          ghost pokemon aren’t counted.. they can’t be kicked/punched bcos normal punch and normal kick are.. well you know it

        • Fitzkrieg

          Who says that something with a non-humanoid body can’t fight? Look at Amaterasu in UMvC3, Poppy in Samurai Shodown V, Iggy and Petshop in the Capcom JoJo fighter, Arakune in Blazblue and many others.

          Admittedly, making a moveset for something like say, Serperior would be a bit of a challenge, but not impossible. In fact, let’s think about that briefly.

          Were it up to me, I’d make Serperior a mid-range character with good reach (but slightly slow) normals that involve striking with his tail and/or Vine Whips, as well as the ability to set up blockstrings with delayed-fire Razor Leaves. Maybe give him an anti-air command throw or some other kind of constricting grapple for some flavor.

          See? Not that hard.

          • Tre W

            In the end, it will depend more on exactly what kind of fighting game they stand to make. In a 2D fighter, it’s an interesting challenge, but not impossible to make a quadrupedal/amorphous character have a
            reasonable-sized hitbox and various other things that can work within the context of that game, such that they don’t have a ridiculous advantage over the humanoid characters.

            But notice how in 3D fighters (re: Tekken, SC, the upcoming Jojo fighter), we don’t really
            see this type of thing. For all the bears, raptors and funky demon/robot things that are abound in Tekken, one thing is certain: Namco made sure
            to stay strictly with creatures that could operate as bipedal characters. It’s also worth noting that Iggy and Petshop are NOT in the upcoming CC2-made Jojo fighter, likely for this very reason.

            So, assuming that this is going to be a Namco-style 3D fighter in some way? There’s a reason why they’re likely focusing on the Fighting types: Highest concentration of humanoid-sized bipedals that would easily work in the context of a 3D game of this sort.

            Having said that? I highly doubt that other bipedal/humanoid PKMN won’t be considered.
            Mewtwo should be another easy pick. And if Namco could make bears work in Tekken, I’d like to think that the likes of Charizard, Blastoise, Sceptile and etc. should have no problem.

      • subsamuel01

        That makes sense

      • http://thespellcraftcolumn.wordpress.com Rudolph Consuegra

        And Pikachu of course.

        • Trevor Nicolaysen

          I hate that you’re right…

        • Renaldi Saputra

          but pikachu can’t do anything except thunder, whipping tail, and slamming its body

          • http://thespellcraftcolumn.wordpress.com Rudolph Consuegra

            Yeah but Pikachu has to be in anything Pokemon related. It’s an unwritten rule.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            yeah, right

  • http://www.facebook.com/craigybabyxo Craig Brown

    So, they’re trying a Pokemon meets Tekken deal? Grrr, Pokemon should never fight like that. I want Pokemon Stadium X&Y

    • Renaldi Saputra

      hmm, pokemon doesn’t do normal punch or kick, so yes, I think they should do fight on their own way

      • doubleO7

        Fighting Pokemon do plenty of punches and kicks, so as long as they primarily stick to Pokemon with fighting-type moves it shouldn’t be far-fetched (no pun intended) that they may be making a Pokemon fighting game.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          I know but they can only do 4 variation (as what the moves they learned) + struggle.. I haven’t seen them dong normal punch/kick that doesn’t belong to their moves.. except in dungeon series

          • doubleO7

            While not a regular “kick” and “punch” there are plenty of attacks that involve kicking and punching (mega punch, low kick, fire punch, etc).

            But even so, I don’t think any of that really matters. Its not one of the handheld RPGs, so it doesn’t necessarily have to follow the same rules.

            If this is a proper fighting game, as long as the Pokemon have hands and feet, they can kick and punch. All the attacks they could perform don’t necessarily have to be actual attacks from the game either. Heck since there’s only a limited number of moves in the original games that would be practical for a fighter, those attacks could just be made special moves with everything else being simple punch/kick combos.

            Sorry for rambling on for a bit, but I’m seeing lots of ways they could turn Pokemon into a fighting game. You just gotta keep an open mind, it doesn’t have to operate exactly like the handheld games (or anything like them for that matter).

          • Renaldi Saputra

            since if this will be a fighting game, yeah, maybe they can change the rules like that.. you might be right

          • Fitzkrieg

            I’m hoping for move integration similar to what was done in Persona 4 Arena. Having a set of normals appropriate to the Pokemon using them with some creative specials and supers themed around existing moves would be awesome.

    • grevlinghore

      Maybe you can have both :o

    • KingRuff

      Lucario from Brawl would like to have a word with you.

  • Juhis815

    Fighting game with Pokémon?! Just shut up, and take my money!

  • https://twitter.com/TSCPS TSCPS

    Some people think Aeon Calcos/Lizardman from SoulCalibur V will be playable because Masaaki Hoshino, new producer of the SoulCalibur series (@hoshino_calibur) has posted a tweet about Pokemon Game Show and deleted it 2 hours later… What do you think? That would be weird and hilarious!

    • doubleO7

      Do you know what the tweet said?

      • https://twitter.com/TSCPS TSCPS

        No, but the link of this tweet was http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pgs/ (August 14)

        • Dhruv Rajyagor

          I actually do find it weird. I mean, the producer of SoulCalibur tweeting about Pokemon? That seems really, really suspicious. Though, if Lizardman is playable, or ANY SoulCalibur character, then I’m definitely gonna get “Pokken Fighters/Tournament”

          • Tre W

            I don’t think it’s so much a clue that Lizardman will be playable, so much that Hoshino and his team might be the ones making this game. Since the new “Project Soul” reports directly to Harada, that would still likely mean that some of the Tekken staff is likely involved.

          • Dhruv Rajyagor

            True. Nintendo and Namco have been close lately, since they recruited Namco for Smash Bros U/3D. But look at it this way: both Project Soul and Tekken staff make fun fighting games! If their staffs are making the game in collab with Nintendo, then hopefully the game will be fun! :D

          • Tre W

            Oh, I’m not complaining at all, as I like Namco’s fighting games. SCV is easily my favorite fighter of the last generation thus far.

            I suppose the main thing I’m hoping for, assuming this is true, is a fun, yet in-depth game that is worthy of being a PKMN spin-off (cuz let’s face it, as large as the PKMN roster is now, and as in depth as the game’s mechanics are, I’d be more willing to trust Bamco with such a thing than most devs!).

            Furthermore, Harada once talked about how Namco’s fighting game staff were eager to try to make a fighting game that diverted from the Tekken style a bit more. Since TxSF is still very much on the backburner apparently, maybe a game like this could be their answer…

          • Dhruv Rajyagor

            Hm…. possibly. Considering Tokyo Game Show is next month, maybe we’ll know more then. Or maybe tomorrow at Gamescom, Nintendo and Namco will announce the Pokemon fighting game collab.

            I have heard about Harada saying that. Maybe it’s this, maybe it’s TxSF, or maybe it’s an entirely different game. We’ll have to wait and see.

            I loved SCV, but my main problem is lack of single-player content and lack of veterans.Two of my mains (Talim and Zasalamel) didn’t make it in, so I’m hoping SC: Lost Swords is a sequel (or expansion) to SCV that adds the content that Project Soul couldn’t put in. They only had a year to make the game, which doesn’t seem fair tbh. In the meantime, I’ll have to play my favorite SC game, SCII via SoulCalibur II HD Online. SOOOO glad they announced it :D

          • Tre W

            Rather than TGS, I’d expect that Nintendo would rather have this game showcased within one of their Directs at this point. Remember how we got the likes of “Bayonetta 2″ last year in their “September Update”? That’s when I would expect a bomb of this type of drop.

          • Dhruv Rajyagor

            Good point. Hopefully, they’ll also announce a $50 price drop for the Wii U. Actually, what would help is the announcement of a new F-Zero or Star Fox. In the meantime, we’ll have to wait.

  • KuroNathan

    Jokes on you, it’s infanct a new Pokemon tcg with 3d models like yugioh

    • ShawnOtakuSomething

      I would be upset

    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

      I wouldn’t be upset.

    • Lynx

      So like Digital Card Battle?

      Fund it.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        where the battles are virtualized.. seems yes

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Reminds me of Yugioh On the GBA

      do want.

      Oh wait Im getting puzzles & dragons in a year

  • ronin4life

    Some have said here it may be a Tekken cross over… and now I think that too…

    King of Iron fist tournament… a fist in the background… and it being called pokken which sounds a lot like Tekken…

  • Eon Droel

    Really nice to see they are trying something new.(if it’s true) Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

  • Brybry

    I contacted them and they didn’t want to share any information with me “at the moment” and told me that if this information become available, it will be announced on their website and their forums.

  • Ben Sylvia

    Meh, probably won’t have ghost types playable.

    Pass.

  • Jesse Torres

    Make it a fighting game with combos, try to include as many pokemon as possible to make it a well rounded roster. AND i might consider getting a wiiu.

  • Nameless App 1989

    Pokemon + Tekken = Pokken,maybe?

  • Guest

    This is so weird! Reskinned Tekken with Pokemon…?

    Count me in!!!

  • J_Joestar

    The thought that this could be a fighting game, makes me want to play the Type:Wild fan game again.

  • lozffvii

    I called it on the previous post!
    Type Wild was a fan-made pokemon fighting game wherein both Lucario and Blaziken were playable. Hence the CG image was probably referencing Type Wild.

  • mojack411

    I still wish it was something RPG related but this if fine too.

    • TheGameTagerZ

      Pokemon has been stuck on RPG mode for the longest. Why does this one have to be another one?

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        Because MonRanger

  • AnimeGirlOfYourDreams

    if it really isn’t only fighting pokemon i will main metapod…

  • French

    apparently this isn’t for any game release, its just conceptual art

    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

      The mystery isn’t about the image alone, but about what is the story behind the trademark found by Siliconera, and why is it called, of all things, “Pokkén”.

  • r4ind4nce

    It’s a bit silly but since I’m German it’s hard to overlook that Pokken, unless you pronounce it Poke-ken/Poe-ken (which’d be counter-intuitive in German), sounds exactly like Pocken to me, which is the German name for smallpox/pox – and just sounds wrong.

    Nevertheless, the concept strikes me as something quite interesting although I’d rather they didn’t limit the roster to fighting type Pokémon, which, again, leads to the question how big the roster is going to be and what they’re setting out to do with this in the first place. If they take in too many of dem Pokemans they’re probably gonna end up in balancing hell D:

    I’d prefer a large-scale Wii U RPG with awesome graphics and fresh control schemes/systems (think Ni no Kuni) over a limited fighting game, but hey, these are already filed so there’s not much to be done about it. Let’s see how this turns out.

  • Anesia Hunter

    Is it too hard for them to make a pokemon fighting game with style similar to BlazBlue?

    • Renaldi Saputra

      just the concept of pokemon seem don’t meet with some fighting games.. such as charge attack, special skill, etc..

    • Tre W

      As much as I like Arc’s games, we got no shortage of games from them coming out. A new 3D-style game could be just the thing that could really help this game stand out from its peers.

    • http://www.segalization.com/ Kuronoa

      There’s Pokemon Type Wild

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQp5sNsT6A

      Otherwise I personally don’t care what style it is in as long as it is a good fighting game.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        hmm it’s already listed below

  • David Curry

    welcome to the king of the pocket fist tournament?

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