Square Enix Forms Final Fantasy Committee To Ensure The Quality Of Future FF Games

By Spencer . October 17, 2013 . 2:33pm

ffxv1 There was a time, not too long ago, when the Final Fantasy brand was a hallmark of quality. Recently, however, Square Enix have stamped Final Fantasy on a bunch of titles and not all of them live up to the same standard.

 

Final Fantasy fan site FF-Reunion reports Square Enix have formed a Final Fantasy committee to ensure the quality of games in the Final Fantasy series. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn director Naoki Yoshida, Final Fantasy XV co-director Hajime Tabata, Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama, and Final Fantasy VI director Yoshinori Kitase are members of this four person party.

 

Yoshida is an interesting choice since he hasn’t worked with the series as much as the other team members, but the successful re-launch of Final Fantasy XIV probably earned him a seat. Aside from Yoshida, all of the other staff members are part of the 1st Production Department.

 

Tetsuya Nomura, who is co-directing Final Fantasy XV and is the director of the Kingdom Hearts series, is not part of the committee since his time is taken up by other projects. Takashi Tokita, designer of Final Fantasy IV and The 4 Heroes of Light, and Shinji Hashimoto who leads the 1st Production Department, are also notably absent from the list. Hiroyuki Ito, director of Final Fantasy XII and one of the designers on Final Fantasy Tactics isn’t on the team either, but that’s probably because he’s spearheading Guardian Cross and the zombie themed spinoff Deadman’s Cross.


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  • Xaltmas

    Could have used this a few years ago.

  • Allec Ribeiro

    Motomu Toriyama is a member, making this completely meaningless.

    • Xaltmas

      “You know what this needs?”

      “…”

      “More Lightning!”

      • Surgeon of Death

        That’s not even funny. Fu*k lightning.

        • Herok♞

          I would, Lightning is hot …. oh you meant in a negative way never mind, I like Lightning

      • Chaos_Knight

        “We need Lightning everywhere! And that includes KH3!!!!!”

        • Sardorim

          I would be surprised if she didn’t have an appearance in KH3.

          • Rayhan PromisedGallery

            don’t worry, she’ll become one of 7 lights

        • Jean Alcantara

          I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows up in XV. In one of the trailers I swore that was her.

      • Sardorim

        I can only Hope…..

      • Wtv

        You know…I don’t like Cloud and he is, like, everywhere. I don’t care.

        Who doesn’t like Lightning shouldn’t care too.

        • Xaltmas

          What? No he isn’t.

          For a lot of people, Lightning is associated with people’s dislike of Square Enix today. You can’t blame them for wanting to see her gone.

          • Wtv

            If people dislike Square Enix today, they should stop bothering about them.

            Cloud is everywhere, yes. At least just like Lightning. He must have be in more medias than her.

          • Xaltmas

            Why should they? They have every right to voice their displeasure and demand better.

            And no, Cloud isn’t everywhere. He isn’t in Final Fantasy XIV.

            But guess who is.

          • Wtv

            FFXIV is a new game. You could say that Lightning is today what Cloud was before. Who knows if that will last as much as for him, since even today he still appears sometimes.

          • Xaltmas

            Lightning has been in three games.

            Cloud had one and a movie, and the only time he appears in other games are games that EVERYONE is in like Theatrhythm and Dissidia.

            You know who else is in those games? Lightning.

          • Wtv

            Have you played Final Fantasy Tactics?
            He’s also in a fightning game that no one remembers, it seems.
            FFVII has a lot more spin-offs than FFXIII, and they lasted for years.

            Cloud is also always one of the most marketable/important character in these crossover that everyone is him. But well…

            It seems he made a apparence in a Chocobo Racing game too.

          • Xaltmas

            Final Fantasy VII had TWO spin-off games. Final Fantasy XIII has had two direct sequels. In the time those spin-offs came out, we still got other Final Fantasy games.

            These past few years it’s been Lightning Lightning Lightning.

            Also, you are forgetting a major thing here. Most people like Cloud. A lot of people don’t like Lightning or Final Fantasy XIII in general.

          • Wtv

            4 if you count mobile games.

            And a lot of people hate Cloud. They just don’t talk about it anymore because it doesn’t matter now. But everytime that I would saw something about him, everyone was complaing about how “emo” he was or whatever.

            And I’ll agree that was bad to make three FFXIII games without nothing in between. But this was probably because Square was with problems. I do miss games from them that aren’t Final Fantasy.

            Anyway, I have nothing more to say about that.

          • Xaltmas

            None of Final Fantasy VII’s spin-offs were even about Cloud, now that I think about it.

            And I don’t think people hate Cloud, it’s just a vocal minority. The same people who go on about how over-rated Final Fantasy VII is every chance they get.

          • Alex Shadov

            A male point of view… Lightning is hot and can kick your ass any time
            (she is a badass), Cloud is a pretty boy and an emo… from FF VII I
            prefer Zack… and he is just on a cinematic on the main game… XIII is
            a good game, compared to visual novels, and XIII-2 … (*reload gun,
            point it to the head…. shoot*) wow, the game is so bad I survived the shoot.

          • blastleaf

            Here goes my little assumption,
            The only reason why Lightning is getting so much love from SE is because she, well…cost hell a lot more (time/monehh) to make compare to Cloud. Not just her…but the entire XIII universe is, compare to VII. I guess it makes more sense for them to recycle used materials, which still have some milking value, than to build a spanking new XV, XVI off the bat. Besides, recycling old materials provides more room for experiments with game mechanics and trying out new ideas, if those ideas turn out to be a major fuck up, it wont hit them as hard. Not saying it is a good thing, but its understandable.

            and Cloud, SE knows he is like the final trump card, together with a remake of VII, the day they go down that path, will be the day i lost all hopes for SE, since remaking VII is like admitting defeat, and declaring “we really have nothing up our sleeves anymore”…if it happens….it will truly be a “final” fantasy for them.

            p.s. and if they do remake VII, you can safely assume they will milk 3 games out of the same content, like they did with XIII~

          • delmar

            I dont think it’s only money, I think it’s about re branding themselves. They have already have started to remove themselves from the classic turn base style/ game play from I-X. Cloud was milked because he was the face of the series before they became Square Enix and Sakaguchi’s departure. Now they are pushing Lightning because they want her to be the new face for Square Enix/ new generation of Final Fantasy.

          • Chiupon

            no i definitely the forum days where people wouldn’t shut the hell up about cloud

            it just seems like everyone’s forgotten. I mean you honestly couldn’t go on a forum without several “cloud is emo/gay/whiny/a fag/etc” threads

            Lightning is literally cloud 2.0 and it doesn’t help that her initial game was lack luster. I’m really praying for LR, but… I personally think Final Fantasy should just go peaceful into that goodnight

          • Lemon

            “And a lot of people hate Cloud.”

            “A lot” is subjective and definitely skewed when put in your own perspective. It’s not some rigged coincidence that people vote for Cloud in character polls. You are welcome to your own opinion, but your opinion is wrong.

          • Chiupon

            these are the same character polls where Lightning does pretty well tho

          • Zero_Destiny

            If I had to put it in words I would say a lot of the “too much Lightning” may come with the fact that Square Enix gave so much of her in a relatively short period of time, like they flooded the market with Lightning.

            So while FFVII may of gotten a lot of love and cameos, and spin-offs, it may not be the fairest comparison, since that happened much more gradually.

            There is certainly a polarizing effect here with XIII, and probably to be frank, some band wagon jumping with the dislike of her. But there’s also some honest criticism, even from people who may not of cared one way or the other about XIII, since we’ve seen a lot of her, it’s hard for Square Enix’s consumers not to have an opinion on her by this point.

            I would say to just not let it get to ya’, what others say won’t make Lightning any less of a character to you, though it can be frustrating. You’ll probably be here until you’re blue in the face if you try to defend her.

          • http://grhughes.com/ Gareth Hughes

            I think the big difference is, plenty of people asked for more FFVII. I think there was a lot less demand for more FFXIII

          • Camael Lima

            I agree with you, I like Lightning, and is for the same reasons that others don’t. So why should anyone bother bringing her up in the discution?! When that happens it all starts and all we see is “Lighting sucks” and “Stop talking that!”. It’s meaningless.

            If they don’t like her, don’t talk about her/ don’t buy the game (LR: FF XIII), that’s what makes her famous and that’s why SE use her like used Cloud before, but like you said, in a more moderate way. I respect others’ opinions so I won’t try to make them like her, but it is frustrating when someone talks certain things about a character you like…

          • Jeremy Barnes

            Cloud’s Sword is in FFXIV

        • EinMugenTenshin

          Sophie, you’re just biased because you are both robots.

      • Dark Zerato

        Lightning is considered as Cloud’s female version. So it’s normal that she would get the same treatment as Cloud. As her name suggests, lightning is born within cloud.

        • Xaltmas

          I bet you $10 there is either a fanfiction or fanart on Deviantart about your last sentence.

        • d19xx

          Cloud’s a hermaphrodite?

          • Chiupon

            the whining could stem from a hormone imbalance

            i think you’ve discovered the mystery behind whatshifaces writing!

      • Lucky Dan

        You know its kinda annoying that FFXIII part 3 should of been Final Fantasy XIII

        So it took 2 shitty movie games to get the game right.

    • Monterossa

      Toriyama made FFX, the best game of the series.

      • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

        Actually, Kitase was chief director and producer. Toriyama was just event director, alongside two others who were battle and planning directors.

        Also you spelled FFXII wrong.

        • EinMugenTenshin

          Was that FF X-2? Best combat system so far, as from this point it started to go down hill towards “press X and see it happen”, so you got a point good sir!

          But from joke to revolver, FF VII was and is the undisputed champion of FF games.

      • Allec Ribeiro

        Toriyama also made XIII, the most polarizing game in the series, and is generally a really creepy guy.

        • Neutron15

          do you want vinegar to cast away thy saltiness???

          • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

            They’re allowed to be salty, just like you can enjoy FF13/Toriyama. Lets not harass people now.

      • Surgeon of Death

        LOL no. It was a pretty damn good game but it lacked certain things to be called the best. the best is out of 9, 7, and 6. I vote 6 :)

      • Pockystix

        I really hate when people say one guy “made” a FF title. I think Sakaguchi was a bigger influence on the series in a great way, but he’s just one guy. The man had a team before, and it shows.

        While Toriyama seems like a giant f*ck up to me, he’s not the only one to blame for the recent downward spiral the series has taken.

        • enorka miho

          but director get to say allot of stuff.. They are sort of the core for the entire production.. The rise or fall of the project pretty much lies in their hand.. As for Sakaguchi, he has different ways of interacting and working with people.. Which is why you felt it was a game made by a team..

      • Masa

        *slaps you ffvi*

        wrong.

      • Grape Monet

        No, but he did direct X-2.

        • Surgeon of Death

          lol I can tell

    • Masa

      couldnt agree more…really SE

    • Wtv

      He actually made one of the best battle system in the series.

      Yes, I’m talking about XIII.

      • Allec Ribeiro

        Oh, there are definitely good things about XIII — though I would not play it again because of my issues with it, I enjoyed that one playthrough — but the fact is, it was one of the most polarizing entries in the series; if the Final Fantasy games started to go down in quality somewhere, it was there.

        You should also consider the controversy surrounding Lightning Returns and the fan response to FFX-2 and (though obviously not a Final Fantasy game) 3rd Birthday, projects that had heavy involvement from him.

        Personally, I think he is really creepy about his female characters and treats them more as fetishes than anything else, and that ends up affecting his games negatively, but even without this one issue, Motomu Toriyama is not a person I would put in a committee made specifically to ensure the quality of future titles.

        • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

          I didn’t realize he was involved with each of those; I am seeing a pattern — and it is indeed a skeevy one. Is he the one that mostly made the gross comments about Lightning for Returns?

          Goodness, I wish he’d be relegated to stuff where he has no particular influence on characters (especially design and action-wise).

          • Allec Ribeiro

            Yes, it was him, and I agree; sadly, most of his credits are related to story and characters. I think he can do a decent job when he is not directly in charge of it, though, but he seems to be getting more and more prominent as the time goes.

          • http://twitter.com/puchixseda puchinri

            Guhhh. That’s a worst case scenario then. I guess I’ll just abandon all hope now.

        • Wtv

          Well, I don’t think the quality is going down. To me the series is the same as always. In fact, FFXIII-2 was the more Final Fantasy-like game in the series since FFX. I think a lot of people are nostalgia blinded, because they are complaing about things that were always there.

          I also think that Final Fantasy X-2 is a fun game. Yes, it’s not as good as FFX, but it’s a spin-off, after all. And I don’t see a problem with Lightning Returns since visual fanservice is always present in every japanese game and never was a problem.

          Actually, I think it’s funny how Toriyama treats Lightning like some girl he’s in love with. That’s not too weird to me though, since I’m a anime fan and that’s actually pretty common there. And he said that the character that he will work must be someone he loves, what makes some kind of sense. Nomura said that too, that his favorite character is Sora and because of that he can work with him.

          The thing is that Toriyama is a japanese creator and isn’t trying to hide it. The gameplay and story aren’s being affected for it, so I don’t see a problem.

          • Allec Ribeiro

            You don’t think the quality is going down, but sadly Square Enix itself seems to disagree.

            As for your Nomura comparison, I find it completely inadequate. Toriyama has been actively sexualizing Lightning in ways that are not true to her character, to a degree that has generated jokes even among people in his staff and discomfort (and in some cases, ridicule) from Japanese players. In many Lightning Returns videos, you see Lightning in poses that she would not make and outfits she would not use, in a heavily advertised system that does seem to be part of the gameplay.

            Simply put, Lightning is not what we know her to be anymore, being reduced to something like a doll. The same thing was done with Aya Brea in 3rd Birthday — fanservice for the sake of the player, taken to an absurd degree that only gets creepier as you find out more about the plot. Considering all this, how can you say it is comparable to Nomura liking to work with Sora? Nomura works with Sora as a character; no matter what he does, he stays true to that character.

            I find that it is not a matter of Toriyama being a Japanese creator and not trying to hide it. Yes, fanservice seems to be more natural over there, but it can be done right and it can be done wrong, it can be sexual and it can be innocent, it can come from the character in a way the player may enjoy, or it can exist solely for the enjoyment of the player. Generalizing it as a common Japanese trait makes it seem like all the other Japanese creators are hiding their fanservice cravings inside a closet.

            For the record, I actually like most of the characters in XIII, and greatly enjoyed XIII-2. I do not mind Lightning popping up everywhere, as some have put it, because I like her as a character. This is precisely why what he is doing bothers me so much.

          • Chiupon

            woah there buddy

            first of all lightning isn’t your character and second of all did you even play 13 because lightning is pretty surly

            please remember that she roamed around the globe in a miniskirt that was like 2 inches long. Lightning likes to dress like a hoe and more power 2 her for it.

            Lightning is not your character, you can’t definite whether she’s being “true” to herself or not. characters, like people, can develop. Lightning obviously is a girl who likes mini skirts (her old military outfit had a miniskirt as well okay) and in no way does doing that or doing a FANSERVIcE POSE LINKED TO A NON-cANON OUTFIT derail her character

            furthermore Sora hasn’t had character development in like 3 games, but his crotch bulge got bigger so can we talk about that

          • Allec Ribeiro

            Yes, I did play XIII. Lightning had a very practical outfit there — said miniskirt had shorts underneath, for instance — but the point is, she was never played for fanservice in that game, and as a character she was very serious and determined; her arc was not about losing those qualities, but instead about not keeping a close lid on your feelings all the time.

            XIII-2 did not change that.

            You might not know this, but each costume changes her animation (and sometimes cup size, according to Toriyama), and some of them are decidedly canon and present in the game:

            http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63087406&postcount=288

            The idea that you need to own a character to be able to spot inconsistencies in their characterization is silly. Yes, they can (and should) develop, but if any such development happened to her, it was offscreen and a 180 from what we have seen in the previous two games, your claims about her choice in clothes notwithstanding.

            This will probably be my only response to you, because I am not interested in discussing whether or not Sora has developed a bulge, nor in comments so rudely phrased that they might as well be troll bait.

            Despite our disagreements, my discussion with the person using the Sophie avatar was at least fairly polite.

          • Chiupon

            not your character though
            not your character
            that’s literally like telling a writer they described their own character wrong
            I’m sure lightning’s wearing shorts underneath that shit too. Her body language is certainly more sultry for the purpose of fanservice, we all know it
            but lightning is not your character, and you cannot tell Toriyama he’s doing her wrong, because
            ~she’s not your character~

            If Lightning wants to parade around and has suddenly discovered in the time gap that she wants to be Naomi Campbell, then BAM that’s her development as a character, that’s her writing
            Lightning’s fashion choices and posing are not indicative of her character in any way either, because regardless of what slutty ass outfit she has on (and wow some of those) she is still Lightning and says the same stoic boring ass shit

            “this will be my last response to you”
            why’d you make one in the first place?
            also jfc that was a long ass post son ain’t nobody got time 4 none of that

            lightning is not your character
            she cannot be mischaracterized by the dude who wrote her

          • Fsteak

            OBJECTION!

          • delmar

            That is a bad argument point, Toriyama is not in the business of “I’m going to do the hell I want in which way I please”, he needs to meet the bottom line and that is selling a product that will be successful.
            I thinks as a series FXIII has had this problem and it has to do with Toriyama choices ingeneral. He negates the traits of the characters and their designs by changing them so drastically that its hard for the consumer to just swallow it down. (Example Yuna X to X-2) Yes, it is his character and yes he can do anything he wants to lil Lightning. Yet we are the consumer, he is providing for us and he needs to create a product that causes the suspension of disbelief so it’s successful. Toriyama changes the design of his characters it way too much, and it conflicts with an established idea of who this character was. Now if Lightning had become a more flirtatious and sexual being over the series it wouldnt be a huge deal, but now its a character design flaw because she wasnt initially.

            The character design in general for the series wasnt very strong in the later two games. It seems like they were trying to push a completely new concept/ idea in each installment which is not how that usually works when it comes to character designs (look at Advent Children, all of them had similar designs from the original installment) I also find that at one point the main series theme was about controlling your own fate, it’s not in the hands of gods but now has become I’m going to become your chosen because I’m at your will. That is called bad and contradicting story telling.

    • Alex Shadov

      Come on! щ(ºДºщ) Toriyama is not that bad, he just make horrible FF games.

    • GVmanX

      “Bluh bluh I hate Final Fantasy XIII!”

      • foopy

        It’s a pretty horrible game.

        • http://blackstar2661.deviantart.com/ SilverSpades

          By what standards? Because when I see stuff like this, I think “the sane boat as Div

        • Red Harlow

          Yeah and alot of people loved it, like myself. But Screw the first game to use a new engine am i right?

    • Neutron15

      so salty

  • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

    R.I.P. Hiroyuki Itou.

    ???? – 2006

    • Xaltmas

      He’s the director we deserve, but not the one….nah, he is the one we need right now.

    • Judge Magister

      Itou is still working at SE and “he’s been planning and doing some proposals for a new project at the moment” <- this is what Shinji Hashimoto said in a interview not so long ago. I would like to link that article but I don't know if it is allowed.

      • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

        Yeah, I saw that on RPGSite. But late last year Itou suggested in an interview with Jeremy Parish that he’s not currently working on Final Fantasy.

        • Xaltmas

          Because he is creating a new IP! Right? Right?!

          • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

            Yes. That would be their upcoming social game Deadman’s Cross. http://www.jp.square-enix.com/dc/

            The successor to Itou’s Guardian Cross last year.

          • Xaltmas

            Ugh. .____,

          • Heropon

            Ito is made tea and cleaning at SE

      • Zero_Destiny

        It should be fine, just so long as you aren’t linking to pirate bay, or a NSFW site, or something. lol It’s cool.

  • IS | 桂木

    >Motomu Toriyama.

    I don’t see this working out like they had hoped. Maybe with the powers of YoshiP and the others they can make this work

    • Yause

      Politically, it works out for the people involved.

  • Surgeon of Death

    Trolliyama just killed it for me. Nomura would have assured me of the future….. :(

  • James McEneely

    I actually like Final Fantasy XIII. Fuck me, right?

    But they have Kitase-san. All will be well.

    • Herok♞

      I like 13 as well so our opinion is wrong and we are wrong.

      • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

        At least you admit it!

      • Neutron15

        yeah, we who like the 13 games dont have the right to give our opinions

        at least we are not nostalgia sh*ts

  • klkAlexar

    Well, hope that works out for them.

  • Shady Shariest

    “And it was on this day the committee was formed, it was made sure, far and wide that no longer would the loving grip and guidance falter!

    Such as veil of doubt has been peeked, it has now been lifted… The Final Fantasy is a Phoenix. And this committee the fire to keep it beautiful, to make sure that no longer, never, should any Fantasy be dimmer than one before.

    And that Final, would just be a callback”

    • Xaltmas

      You should just go all out and write a fan-fiction.

      • Shady Shariest

        Nah, i lack the consistency of doing so… It would likely end up being more Suda51 than anything Final Fantasy :P

  • Yause

    Shinji Hashimoto heads the marketing division. He isn’t a developer, although he has been closely involved with certain teams.

    Kitase, Toriyama, and Tabata make up a single axis, and the creation of this committee solidifies their places as the overlords of Final Fantasy.

    • Xaltmas

      And it solidifies that Ito has probably been demoted to either making mobile games or is now a janitor.

  • Minos

    Did previous FF needed this?

    Does the Squenix’s CEO has so little control over his company he needs “Comitees” to ensure quality?

    • Yause

      Historically, they’ve left the creative aside alone, so they have little input on the details of content.

      The rationale is that developers know games the best, and that management should stick to strategy. Creating a committee from directors reinforces that position.

    • Shady Shariest

      New CEO mainly focuses on getting some sense to SE and how it spends money/ makes expectations…
      Having quality control is a future-proofing first step.
      Edit: The committee makes sure that sub-par is not a thing regarding FF.

      • Minos

        Quality Control is basic on any company, if they really need to make a PR statement saying that they just made one for a only-god-knows-how-expencive-proyect… I understand why they have so many issues.

        • Shady Shariest

          Yeah, that has basically been it. There has been business side and then the creative style. This is nothing more than a calming nod that they will not be allowing EVERYTHING to go by from development side.
          Edited a horrific typo :O

          (other problems have been with localization and games practically sitting ready waiting to be delivered)

          This saves time and money in the long run…

    • Ty Austin

      I think now that it costs way more money to produce an FF game versus way back when, they need to ensure that when they make one, they make it count.

      • Minos

        It is their fault the costs skyrocket.

        Dragon Quest has not suffered from this.

        • Shady Shariest

          That would be because they aren’t made in super-high-fancy-holy-****-how-many-polygons-style as XV or other big FF-titles.
          And have recently been out on either handhelds and Nintendo machines in general, which have a large following worldwide.

          • Minos

            Correct!

            JRPGs are quite expencive to make, that is why other developers use Cell Shaded, but, for some reason Squenix needs to use those super-expencive production values on FF for no real reason.

            Why FFXIII is a hallway?

            Because it would have been too expencive otherwise.

            I think its vanity, they want to say “Oh look hat I did”.

          • Shady Shariest

            I would love to see a cell-shaded FF! Borderlands has shown how flexible it is, not to mention gorgeous…
            *Chains the fanboy inside*

            But FF XV is all ready more openworldish…And what they are doing with KH III… It seems that SE will rather improve this to hell on main games…

            Oh well.. Maybe a mad mashup of FF-makers with Cell :3

          • Shady Shariest

            Something this requires its own comment: I love the way you started with “Correct!” i read it as a Phoenix Wright shout’n’point :3

          • Ty Austin

            C’mon now, somebody has to make a JRPG with graphics on the level of the big name titles out there.

            While I do like the cell shaded style, it’s nice seeing JRPGs with a more realistic look. FF is a big brand for them and has always pushed whatever current hardware they were on to the limit, they’re going to put a lot of effort into the presentation.

            It would be like if you took a well known, graphical game series and dumbed down the graphics just to cut down on costs. Games like WoW and Borderlands, which have that established look, don’t need to worry about this.

          • Zero_Destiny

            It’s true that lately they’ve been shooting themselves in the foot with their development cycles.

            It’s somewhat ironic, ever since they made the jump to the Playstation One, Square with Final Fantasy and Graphics that push the system, have been somewhat synonymous. It’s been something many fans expected out of them, they’re known as the show-stoppers, very flashy cinemas, and nice in game graphics. And now here we are today.

          • Chibi RAWR

            thats what FF always had good flashy visuals even on old 8bit pixel stuff

          • Zero_Destiny

            Yeah you could say FF was doing some impressive things for the graphics of the earlier consoles as well. Going from NES to SNES, IV was pretty impressive. And I-III looked good back then as well, though not as impressive as the leap to 3D (and CD based media) or the initial jump to 16 bit, but that’s not a fair comparison ether.

  • http://www.thejaystack.com/ Jon Stachewicz

    How long till they have an Official Square Enix Seal of Please Be Excited

    • School Idol Addict

      Please be excited, it’s coming soon.

  • wererat42

    Read the title of this post and thought. “Huh, so Square-Enix didn’t have a QA department?”

  • TheExile285

    Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

  • DrakeClawfang

    nice, FF14 dude, FF15, Kitase….oh fuck, Toriyama?

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      don’t forget about the conversation of the Tales, Final Fantasy & Dragon Quest producers talking about a collaboration.

      • DrakeClawfang

        I’ve not. I just don’t trust Toriyama to ensure any sort of high quality standard for Final Fantasy.

        Don’t mistake me, I liked FF13, but Toriyama has ridden that train into the ground shouting “weeeeeeee!”

  • gold163

    If they’re not going to regulate the number of mobile game spinoffs and constant re-releases then there’s really no point.

  • whatinthewolrd

    Ito is going to make the next FF9, just you wait!

  • epy

    I want to believe you.

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    > Hajime Tabata
    > Motomu Toriyama
    lol, what quality?

    I’m sure fans are greatly reassured to know that the brain trust behind some of the most hated franchise sequels in the company’s recent history will be presiding over future games.

    • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

      Their opposite creative abilities cancel each other out. Alas Naoki Yoshida ultimately brings it into the negatives, making this committee a failure.

      • MogCakes

        Do people hate Yoshida that much? As a fan of XIV ARR this is pretty surprising to me.

        • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

          No, everyone loves Yoshida except me. FFXIV is a great game, but not a great Final Fantasy game imo. It’s fun to play but I find everything about it to be very uninspired. I’m honestly more impressed with that FFXIII saga than FFXIV despite that fact I can’t stand Lightning.

      • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

        Whoa hold on, are you suggesting that Hajime Tabata is capable of creativity?

        • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

          You got that right. Crisis Core, The 3rd Birthday, Type-0 are the best action games to come out of Square Enix Tokyo this past generation.
          Final Fantasy Type-0 was especially creative.

  • KnifeAndFork

    “Here Here! And now for the first order of business!…..Toriyama!….

    get out”

  • 3PointDecoupage

    And where are the people who made 6 through 12? Are they the same guys?

    • 1Truth

      Hiroyuki Ito (FF6, FF9, FF12 director) is still at the company and is secretly working on FF16. It’s surprising he’s not part of this committee, but I guess the reason is because he’s too busy with FF16.

    • Heropon

      It was Hiroyuki ito ( battle , gameplay design for 1 to 12 except 10 ,Director (6,9,12) and ATB creator ) but he completely vanish after his work on FFXII

  • IS | 桂木

    An idea just crossed my mind. Maybe Toriyama… is just the mascot of the comitee?

  • WingsOfEternity

    I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I read that title. Oh dear SE…

  • Saint_Stahn

    You know, to me, each Final Fantasy game was a stand alone game. Like a short book if you will. You read it once… and that was it. If it was good it was good, if it wasn’t well… it’s ok, You enjoyed what you could. Overtime, you would let it sink on you, the gameplay, the story, the characters and their world, and you would reminisce over the years over its quality. Because… in the end, ANOTHER one was gonna come, with new things. That anticipation to play a new game with a whole different universe could not be put into words. Oh hey! what are they gonna come up with next time? Weather it was a semi mediocre high school drama pretending to be an epic fight between good vs evil, or a simple story of chosen people on a quest to save the world. it didn’t matter.

    It was different. One could always look forward to a new story after finishing the last one. Sure there was some borrowed elements and mythos from the past games… but they weren’t that big to intrude in the new setting or story that was being told.

    And then… Final Fantasy X-2 came out… and Advent Children as well… and at that point I realized something was very very wrong.

    Obviously I though… Oh my! Final Fantasy X must’ve been such a Godamn masterpiece it garnered a sequel right???… Oh what a foolish thought. Final Fantasy X was good all right… but no final fantasy game is a masterpiece for everyone.

    The fans chose which one was their masterpiece. And it sure is hell didn’t need a sequel.

    That was my beef with Lightning, I didn’t get a chance to even bother to care about her. I already found her obnoxious and abusive, but before I could sit down… and let FF XIII settle in me, a sequel was announced… and ANOTHER one as well…

    I don’t about you guys but wasn’t final fantasy also about a ”GROUP” of people? sure we had a main character… but the game was never a one man/woman show. IF you didn’t like the main… well there were another character to care for or relate. Oh so many of them!

    And that my friends, is what Final Fantasy XII-2 onwards is NOT. It is an unnecessary sequel and a Lighting one woman show.
    It’s not Final Fantasy.
    It’s Lightning’s Chronicles Adventures, quest for the Happy ending.

    I’m not here to change anyone’s mind or bash the series at all (that joke is overdone) I just wanted to rationalize… why was Final Fantasy XIII so polarizing and why one feels the quality of the series has lowered?

    I don’t want to see Lightning bulldozer with pretty graphics more than twice… I don’t want to see Kain creep over Rosa and Cecil brohoyay with Golbez 20 fricking years after the original didn’t need a sequel and was already perfect, I don’t want to see The Gullwings powerpuff like Charlie’s angels with any real purpose other than fanservice…

    Can I just have a nice new game? with a a new world to explore?

    I know releasing Final Fantasy XV or whatever you want to call it now would be a very very VERY GOOD start.

    I don’t care if the main character sucks or most of the cast sucks… hell I don’t CARE if the game EVEN SUCKS… I just want a new experience, even if it is a terrible one. At least then… I can look forward to the next one.

    It anyone bothers to read through this mess, you have my utmost respect.

    Good day sirs and madames.

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      “And then… Final Fantasy X-2 came out… and Advent Children as well…
      and at that point I realized something was very very wrong.”

      I love you. I think the same~<3

      • Saint_Stahn

        Kindest words I’ve recieved in months. I thank you deeply my friendo.

    • Göran Isacson

      I think this is one of the more reasonable posts I’ve read on the subject of Final Fantasy sequels, and it may touch on something which I haven’t heard a lot of people say but which may be part of their subconscious thinking. People were suspicious of the sequels to these games the minute they were announced, perhaps not because of the sequels actual quality but just BECAUSE they’re sequels. Maybe something special happens when a story is just allowed one shot. When it’s just that one adventure, and then it’s up to the audience to let their own imagination do the trick.

      Sure, you will have the people who disagree and say some things should have sequels, but I do wonder if you’re not onto something: if choosing to NOT have sequels make each game stand out that much more, and feel more unique and interesting than a story spread out over several games when that was never really part of the plan.

      • Saint_Stahn

        Thanks. The thing is, making a sequel already is very difficult. You’re pretty much continuing a story that you already ENDED. Everything about the story was solved in a good tight knot, everything was resolved… Why keep it going? There really is no where to go anymore.

        Also, there is very little chance writer will have the exact same mindset he/she once had when the story started.
        What was the point of the story? What was the soul of it? What am I trying to tell here?

        Growing up I remember considering Final Fantasy IV on of the best games of its generation and even this one.
        The characters were simple, the plot simple, the game simple, EVERYTHING was simple… and it WORKED.
        It was what it was trying to be, and that was it.

        Also I can’t be the only one whose mind was completely blown by the ending of Final Fantasy VII.
        Did everyone survive? Did Cloud and Tifa get together? am I gonna see a FMV version of Vincent and Yuffie anytime soon?
        Final Fantasy VII was more ambitious so there where bound to be some minor mistakes or inconsistencies but the story was solid, the game was solid and by the end of it, everything was resolved.
        The only thing left was the player’s own interpretation of the fate of the characters after the final battle.

        I loved and hated that ending… I hated it because it made me feel cheated out of a happy sappy ending. But I loved it because it made me THINK… it made me feel several conflicted emotions and uncertainty. And me ponder for years. In other words. It was memorable.

        It wasn’t deep because it was trying to be deep in a pretentious sort of way. It was deep because it made you think and ponder about the uncertainties of life.

        And then the movie came out…
        ”Oh so everyone is alive… and.. they’re playing daycare center… ”
        No to mention the After Years.
        ”Oh so Kain has been running around….. for 15 years… looking for his dark self. ” ”Wait did Rosa get captured AGA-”

        To try and keep it short, (too late) the sequels were not meant to exist. But because for OBVIOUS business reasons… they were made. The movie after a couple of years. And the IV sequel after 15 YEARS.

        Is it there any doubt why they weren’t as good as the original? Or even good at all to some?

        Sequels usually worked better when a story is too long to fit in one movie/game/book, so it’s split up accordingly.

        I mean a series like final fantasy whose core point is ONE story and the development of its characters within THAT ONE story… is bound to end up hurting itself if it goes on, TOO long. In other words.

        SEQUILITS. *plastered in blood for creepier effect*

    • Judgephoenix

      I have to agree with you on the “One man army crap” just seems SE forgot what FF was all about. They really just need to stop using the name. It is just sad the name is what keeps people playing. Like I like 13-3 gameplay. None of the FF games had bad gameplay. but lately the stories and everything else about them just rub me the wrong way. I skipped 13-2 I am only half tempted to play 13-3 due to gameplay same thing for FF15 but the sequels will drain what content a single game for each entry would have done easily. =(

      • Saint_Stahn

        I personally don’t want to sway you out of buying 13-3. I’m not buying since I can’t use a full party and would rather play Majora’s Mask instead (see what I did there?) As for XV… When or.. IF.. the keyword now being IF it comes out.
        Let’s all give it a shot.
        Suuure it’s not turn based. On the plus side…it has a whole new cast. No Lightning. It’s a new story. No Lightning. It has a new world to explore. Not Lightning. YOU CAN USE A FULL PARTY… what else? O yeah NO LIGHT-… *cough* sorry… If anybody likes Lightning it’s ok.

        We all have our tastes.
        BUT… one cannot deny that because of what I previously mentioned… as of now, she IS part of the problem. otherwise there wouldn’t be so much Lightning base breaking.

        All in all XV is gonna be a new game, new stuff, I mean.. I’m hyped, and I kinda already gave out on the series. But it’s still gonna be a new experience in all aspects and I throughly welcome that.

        If we do get a XV-2, then you guys can grab the nails and the cross at your leisure. I mean at that point… why not? XD

    • ReiSakuraba

      I think you forgot Crisis Core FFVII? It is a one man show for Zack. Which has a good story and one of the saddest ending in FFVII (I cried in that).

      Personally, I’m okay with FFXIII saga. True enough, I didn’t enjoy the game the first time, but the story was great enough to keep me entertained and the endings gave me the bittersweet feeling. The second time I played it, the gameplay shines and I feel that there is quite enough depth in it that I bother to try keeling Adamanchelid with level 8 Crystarium (which I thought I won’t be able to do it in that stage).

      I agree with FFXIII-2 though. It does feel more like a Final Fantasy game but I feel the story is lacking and quite confusing. Frankly, I enjoyed FFXIII more than FFXIII-2.

      With all that, I’m pretty excited about Lightning Returns. I’m not bothered at all with the fanservice. Hey, I mean, don’t you like seeing pretty girls wearing sexy clothes? ;)

      Jokes aside, the gameplay looks solid, it will tie up all loose ends and looks to be a good FF game overall

      • Saint_Stahn

        Well, Crisis Core is a prequel. It didn’t really add new stuff to the Final Fantasy VII mythos, it just elaborated on previous elements that were not throughly explored. And because of the movie, people seemed more interested in Zack and HIS story.
        That being said, Zack and his game is ridiculously solid and amazing, and it’s not a sequel, proving my point.
        Also being a prequel, people already knew of Zack’s ultimate outcome.
        So it didn’t came much as a surprise in the end, but because the game was presented so well, people became attached to Zack and in the end, making the player feel more grief when the ending came about.
        I will admit Zack’s fate was different from the ”original” one from VII.
        But it was so underplayed and minimal to the story… making a few changes here and there so it’s MORE consistent and presentable (and awesome) couldn’t hurt at all.

        A sequel isn’t really a prequel…
        That’s just my opinion though, take from that what you will.

  • WyattEpp

    Right, because when we say “design by committee”, it’s TOTALLY a compliment.

  • fool

    It ain’t no “Final Fantasy Committee” without Hironobu “the ‘stache” Sakaguchi

    • MogCakes

      I think FF has grown beyond its creator and has had the involvement of many key people over the years. Some better than others, but nonetheless it is no longer the FF of Sakaguchi’s sole vision. For better or worse.

    • Aoshi00

      I miss “the Gooch” and Uematsu, but then we had Lost Odyssey and the Last Story as well :) Yeah, I do miss their signature styles stamped on the past FFs… it was “heart”.

      • fool

        Last Story is real cool but I kinda wish it had a FF-sized budget along with the heart. The trimmings were a little jank in that game. Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon are still in my backlog.

        (lol glad you said “the Gooch.” That’s what I wanted to use but knowledge of other meanings of the word made me censor myself like a noob)

        • Xaltmas

          Lost Odyssey is a great game.

        • Aoshi00

          yeah, would’ve been nice if the Last Story’s scale was bigger, it only had one big town hub, but the battle system was fun and I liked the chars. You definitely should play Blue Dragon & Lost Odyssey, they filled the void FF12 & 13 left for me :) just old school turn based RPGs like the old FFs.. they looked amazing at the time but probably look a bit dated now w/ next gen coming up.. I never thought of his nick having other meanings lol..

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      I miss Goochy too.

      Not for nothing Nomura made a tribute to him shaping Master Eraqus/Square on his image in Kingdom Hearts.

  • 1Truth

    I’m not surprised that Hiroyuki Ito is not part of this committee. He’s far to busy working on FFXVI to sit down with these idiots.

    • MogCakes

      Oi. Yoshida’s pretty awesome in my book.

    • kaimo

      Is this based on anything? if it is i wanna read it right now.

  • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 禍津水木

    Yay more delays

  • NimbusStev

    “The last few Final Fantasies have been lacking in quality, so let’s form a committee of people that are responsible for these lackluster games and have them ensure quality in the series.”

    • akiko_sakuraba

      That’s actually exactly what I was thinking. XD Kudos!

    • ChristyKf9

      Took the words right out of my mouth. Anyone else notice that everything Nomura touches becomes marketing gold? Since apparently Nomura and practically every good director at he company is capable of developing a good game is busy you’d think that’s be incentive for SE to get a new fresh source of inspiration. But maybe putting all of the mediocre directors together will assure the production of a good game by getting of the way or doing something that would normally take 1 competent director.

    • ElAbuelo69

      Hey man, at least give Yoshi-P some credit! He revived an absolute piece of garbage game…he truly went against all odds!

      Wether you like A Realm Reborn or not, you gotta see the merit of this guy.

      As for Toriyama…*sigh*

    • Ric Vazquez

      I agree, as a lifetime fan of Final Fantasy, I find the last ones have been highly lacking, my hopes are for XV to return the series to it’s forme glory and possibly even greater

  • Herok♞

    Even if some people don’t like some members of this committe its pretty balanced and you have to remember its not only one person who gets to make all the descsions in a company as much as you guys dislike Toriyama for somereason its not like he holds enough power to make what ever he wants with out approval from others but then again people just like scapegoat to blame for things, with the FF fanbase Thanks Obama(even though he doesn’t do everything people think he does) could become Thanks Toriyama easily.

  • Tiredman

    So, let me get this straight. People who were helping make the current games are suddenly on a committee to make sure future games don’t turn out like their recent past games? As the saying goes, will believe it when I see it on whether or not they actually understand quality of a Final Fantasy game.

  • Rock Volnutt

    >Toriyama
    It’s a good thing I’ve learned never to get my hopes up when it comes to Square Enix anymore, otherwise I would have been disappointed. I can’t wait for Lightning’s Armpit Adventures XIII-13: Crystals Crystals Crystals.

    Anyway, how much are you willing to bet that this “quality assurance committee” will approve dozens of shovelware mobile games?

  • ShadowDivz

    The Avengers of Final Fantasy
    Im just going to leave this right here.

  • Tsukino

    “The last few titles have been met with some pretty harsh criticism and lower sales. We should form a committee to protect the brand and ensure quality in future releases.”

    “OK, let’s make it up entirely of the people responsible for the last few titles.”

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      You gotta love SE’s logic

  • Alex Dunn

    Maybe Kitase can ensure that things don’t go wrong? FFVi is the best, so..

    • Yause

      The committee is stacked with Kitase and his collaborators, so that’s the general idea.

      You have to realize that from critical feedback, FFXIII and XIII-2 fared quite well, so those are positive points in Kitase’s favour. It’s stuff like FFXIV 1.0 and Final Fantasy: All The Bravest (which were totally hammered by the press and players) that they’re guarding against.

      • saxophone15

        “It’s stuff like FFXIV 1.0 and Final Fantasy: All The Bravest (which were
        totally hammered by the press and players) that they’re guarding
        against.”

        That’s what I was thinking as well. FFXIII was a commercial success, so I don’t think they are making this committee in response to those games (though they know not everyone liked the linearity of XIII). This committee is more likely a direct response to FFXIV 1.0….they wouldn’t want something like that to happen again, especially for one of their main single player games.

  • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

    Final Fantasy serious discussion:

    Nomura: Needs more belts :V
    Toriyama: Needs more Lightning :V
    Nomura: Skru you :V
    Toriyama: no u :V

    • Nice Boat Quatro

      Hashimoto: Your are both forgetting the most important thing: Excitement!

      • Godmars

        How about an actual, interactive world? Characters with honest depth rather than the projected crap they’ve been doing since, and I gotta say it, FF7 if not FF8.

        FF9 did a better job, whet back on a track established with FF4-6, but that was Sakaguchi’s swan song from the series.

        HEY! THERE’S A THOUGHT OF WHO TO BRING BACK!

        • Nice Boat Quatro

          Actually Sakaguchi worked until FF10.

          • 1Truth

            Nope. His last hands-on role was FF9.

          • Nice Boat Quatro

            Not really. He was the producer of FF10.

          • 1Truth

            He was executive producer of FFX. He had zero input into the game.The producer of FFX was Kitase.

          • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

            Maybe Im wrong but yup, Goochy still worked for X.

            He did say IX was his “finest work” though.

          • 1Truth

            He didn’t work on FFX. He was only Executive Producer, nothing more. He had zero input into the actual game. Ironically, he was more involved in FFXII than FFX, as he setup the FFXII team and even chose the game’s logo.

          • Godmars

            Missing the main point about an open world. Or at least the pretense of one.

            Also not saying that FF7 & 8 were bad, not really, but those are when pretentious characters and plots were introduced.

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

          Funny since VII and VIII introduced me to the series and made me love almost each entry from the NES ones to the PS2 era and still like both.

  • Godmars

    At the very least I’m throwing up a caution flag. Given Square’s general preference the past few years.

  • Heropon

    Hiroyuki Ito and Takashi Tokita are not on the list ,fail list . Poor Ito , alway work hard to create , balance new gameplay and system for FF and now vanish like never exist

  • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

    Yoshida: Okay.
    Tabata: Meh.
    Toriyama and Kitase: Nope.

    Final Fantasy is doomed when only one of them is actually doing the job.

    This idea is retarded, Squeenix. You just need the right people to work on your main numbered games. Like Ito or *gasp* Matsuno. This is like a self-checking committee which doesn’t know what to check or improve.

    • Eilanzer

      Yoshinori Kitase is amazing man ¬¬

      • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

        The only game he worked on that I liked is Chrono Trigger.

        • Eilanzer

          fair enough
          but…ffvi is still the best rpg ever ^^

          • 1Truth

            Yet, FFVI was mainly designed and directed by Hiroyuki Ito, not Yoshinori Kitase.

          • Heropon

            Wrong . 1truth , he only responsible about Design gameplay side . The scenario are Sakaguchi and Kitase .FFVI is result of great teamwork

          • 1Truth

            My point still stands that Ito designed FFVI. Kitase was not the solo director and didn’t design any of the gameplay.

          • Eilanzer

            Kitase was the director…not the designer of the game…

          • Heropon

            ok

        • Heropon

          Wrong . Most of credit in Chrono trigger are Masato Kato and takashi Tokita . Not Kitase

          • Eilanzer

            he was the director of the game so the most glory to him…
            if you count participation alone…Kitase worked in almost all Final Fantasy games…Kingdom Hearts and the list goes on…

          • Heropon

            His director role in trigger is not much and people think he do most the work but people forget that Tokita and Kato are play one of the most important role along with sakaguchi , Yuji Horri

            Not almost .He only work on FF 5,6,7,8 ,10 ,13 and he just producer in KH , most of the credit in that series go with tetsuya and Hashimoto . The man who work almost on FF is Hiroyuki ito ( except X )

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Ignoring the fact that he’s independent now, Matsuno hasn’t worked on a large-scale project in a very long time.

      • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

        It’s a sad thing, really.

        Although there are rumors out there saying he might be actually doing contractual work for Squeenix on a big project with Ito at the helm.

        It’s not like Squeenix can’t hire former employees — Uematsu recently worked for FFXIV and still has some kind of ties to them, I don’t think they can’t afford to screw things up this time.

  • Eilanzer

    “Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama”

    crap =.=”

  • Alex Shadov

    Well… seems that I will probably drop off FF as my main game series. Good work Square Enix. (-.-’)

  • 1Truth

    Points that support that Hiroyuki Ito (Director FF6/FF9/FF12) is directing FF16:
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/67503264

    • Heropon

      This will never work.

      • 1Truth

        I have hope that Ito is currently directing FFXVI.

    • Anime10121

      Oh, how excite I would be :)

      • 1Truth

        Fingers crossed, bro. Ito’s return to mainline FF is long overdue.

        • Anime10121

          That is one truth :P

  • staplecoffee

    character design change please, I seriously can’t feel the “fantasy” side anymore

  • PreyMantis

    What about Tetsuya Takahashi– oh, wait…

    • Anime10121

      Xenogears :(

      In a better world, we’d have 6 (and a bigger version of Ep 5)

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Unfortunate (but understandable) that Nomura isn’t on the committee. I feel like FF could do with someone that’s a bit of a rebel like Nomura to shake things up. He’s doing FFXV, which is great, but I do think all the mobile spin-offs would work out better, were someone ambitious like Nomura on the supervisory board to help keep them from being cheap and unremarkable.

    That said, I think Naoki Yoshida could very well prove to be just as good in the role that one might expect Nomura to perform. He’s got his finger on the pulse.

    • malek86

      As a general rule, it seems like anything done by a committee turns out terrible, so I think even Nomura wouldn’t be able to make this situation better.

      Besides, he would probably just lobby for more belts.

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        I think people are mistaking what this is supposed to be. It isn’t going to be six people arguing over one game. It’s a group of people entrusted with the FF brand as a whole. There’s nothing to suggest this is going to be a design-by-committee situation.

  • Runcio

    The game´s concept of FFX was “a journey”, so linear. I think that was the point of declive.

  • leingod

    I don’t see what’s positive in this. They basically chose the people who drove FF into the ground to fix it.

    The only good name I see there is the FF VI guy.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      In a sense, the people that have mishandled FF know best what they did wrong, in light of the reaction they’ve received. Besides, there is no one else at Square that could take their place.

      • brian

        They should’ve included Tomoya Asano considering the way he produced BDFF.

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          They could include a lot of people if they wanted to, but ultimately, they’re choosing to include people that have worked on big-budget Final Fantasy games. I can’t say I blame them. At the very least, those on this committee are well aware of how high FF budgets can go, and are probably going to be figuring out how to prevent them from going too high in the future.

          Square have some great directors/producers, but they aren’t involved with FF for a reason.

      • leingod

        Well, I guess that makes sense in a way… although technically, they can also keep messing things up. They seem like awfully stubborn people.

        Still, at least they pleased fans with the whole KH3 announcement thing… it’s a step in the right direction. Now if they’d only announce a FF VII remake…

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          Square’s been losing talent for awfully long now, unfortunately, so a lot of the old guard is gone. A lot of old Squaresoft people are at Nintendo now, because they went off and formed Monolith Soft back in the day.

          Meanwhile, Sakaguchi is obviously off doing his own thing with Mistwalker, while Matsuno appears to be striking out on his own, after a short tenure at Level 5.

      • VenerableSage

        If they (and the company as a whole) have found it necessary to go this route now, I honestly don’t know if the people that have mishandled the series seriously do know what they did wrong. If they actually did, then this would have been handled long ago and a committee wouldn’t even be necessary right now.

  • Somber

    I see stupid people lurks among siliconera readers :3

    • Neutron15

      Haters
      Likers
      Nostalgia People
      Stupid Peple

  • icecoffemix
  • http://myanimelist.net/profile/Hayayandere Hayayandere

    *sees Toriyama on the list*

    Well, this isn’t very reassuring. It’s sad that it wasn’t possible for Ito and Hashimoto to be in the committee.

    • Anime10121

      Ito is the big surprise to me, I mean, he’s had a hand in ALL of the most critically acclaimed entries in the series to date. Why the hell aren’t Square giving him the Final Fantasy director chair back :(

  • Neutron15

    good thing that I am a true fan that loves both old and new final fantasy, and I cant wait to see whats next

  • prinnywin

    Sakaguchi isn’t in the committee so it’s worthless.

    • prinnywin

      My comment was a half-joke, but good to see Siliconera readers don’t have a sense of humor, ironic since many thumbed up the previous comments about those in the committee being the ones who lead to the lackluster games in the first place.

      That being said, Sakaguchi is well needed by the Final Fantasy brand.

  • Brandonmkii

    The only FF game I don’t like is XII. So there’s a good chance I might like what they come up with.

  • Schuyler Preston Hunt

    When the focus became cutting edge next-gen graphics, the focused stopped being “tell a story that will resonate with everyone.” 13′s storyline and vocabulary made me feel like I was playing a game intended for Anthropology PHD candidates.

  • VenerableSage

    I would rather let the fans ensure the quality of the FF brand than the people that have (mostly) been responsible for the state of the series as of late.

    I should note that that’s not really a good thing, either. The fans have passion, but they’re also heavily blinded by their biases – too many different sects that like and hate different titles and mechanics. It’d be too chaotic, but at least there would probably be more consistency of quality from them. :/

    • enorka miho

      i agree to some of your points but definitely never let fans sway a production too much.. because that would only mean stagnancy in creativity… We have tons of COD already..

      • VenerableSage

        I was mainly just pointing out that I would have more faith in fans doing SE’s job than SE doing it. Of course, giving the series over to fan input would be tantamount to shooting it in the head… (Basically, I don’t really have much faith in the guys running the show. Having more faith that fans would be better is like adding 0.00000000001 to 0.)

  • enorka miho

    I hope they do not meddle on Nomura’s work.. Really.. His babies always have the quality… But, Hajime Tabata isn’t a bad choice…I love his FF:CC.. Naoki yoshida could overlook on the world design, his FFXIV is enough to prove it.. As for both kitase and toriyama, they should probably just overlook things, maybe some events in the game like they used to back in the days.. They should stop being a producer of any games.. I mean, kitase is quite an experienced long time SE staff..So he could be usefull in certain aspects of the game.. Maybe he was put in a position he just isn’t good at… Or perhaps I was being too positive? They should probably sack kitase like what they did to wada… I hate things that happen to Lightning now..

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      Im not very aware of Kitase’s works, what did he do?

      • Anime10121

        Kitase directed FFVI (co directed with Ito), VII, and VIII (also had Ito as a co designer)…

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

          Seems like a cool dude to me~

          • Anime10121

            He is. he’s one of my favorite directors at Square!

            I just wish he’d go back to directing rather than produciing :/

      • Anime10121

        Basically, Kitase’s a MUCH better Director, than he is producer…

      • enorka miho

        Well, you can google him up.. He has been with the company for over the decade.. Dabble in quite a number of final fantasy entries.. Including yours truly FFVII.. And FFX is somewhat his baby… lol.. Speaking of which, I missed out Toriyama.. Hmm… I always think that things aren’t so bad untill Toriyama comes in though… He just ruins everything.. And Kitase just sort of went with him…All games that Toriyama directed really went down the drain..

        • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

          Oh mmkay thanks!

  • Anime10121

    Ito not on this committee? W.T.F? The one man that NEEDS to be there, isn’t :/

  • delmar

    This is an easy answer, the creator of the series left. That’s probably the biggest reason why its just a husk of what Final Fantasy used to be. And why the hell is Toriyama on that panel. He caused the majority of the problem.

  • http://www.youtube.com/ReconMWS ReconMWS

    Someone wake Hironobu Sakaguchi from his slumber at Mistwalker so he can put foot to ass at Square Enix.

  • Michael Mario

    A quality control board wonderf- wait, never mind. Toriyama’s on there.

    Story pacing is going to continue to be subpar like it was in FFXIII. The basic plot was decent, but he prefers his stories to be like movies. Games are not movies. If anything, a good RPG is more like a book. Hence why people hate FFXIII’s story and characters- he knows little about developing them.

    Only Hope and to an extent Lightning seemed to get development, but even then they hiccupped with relapses a few times. Sazh doesn’t necessarily develop, but he’s the most human of them. Snow and Vanille’s development is incredibly rushed and skipped over. Fang is a black hole of development and doesn’t really have that much of a personality other than looking hot and acting cool.

    Now Toriyama’s ruining Lightning by making her fanservice to satisfy his fetishes. If he doesn’t deliver on those promises of real Lightning development, he’ll officially be a black hole of quality… does Square not see what fans consider the issue, or do they think Toriyama’s the solution rather than the problem? Either way, this board is already losing credibility with him on it.

    • Michael Mario

      P.S. Give FFVI a TRUE remake and not an RPG Maker knock off of the GBA version down the road to satisfy your NA audience since let’s be honest: there’s no way you’re making a FFVII remake any time soon, and maybe you’ll get a little more credibility.

      Giving FFV a similar treatment would be nice too- you’re giving remakes to mobile sequels more priority than remakes of actual main series titles.

  • Skeptika Crediblus

    Is it going to be like a committee formed of Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, Kevin Costner, and Chaz Bono?

    It is, isn’t it.

  • Jack Frazee

    Good to see Yoshi-P on the team. He took a sack of shit and turned it into gold with all of the FFXIV changes.

    He’s also extremely outgoing with fans, so I’d bet on him giving us a lot of insight to the process.

  • EX+

    You people need to calm down. Toriyama has contributed loads to the FF series and because he made mistakes with his own hands, he knows how o fix them best. This committee isn’t even developing the games.

  • Mis ♠

    They need to. They haven’t come out with a great game since X. Sure the graphics are gorgeous, but the characters and stories aren’t engaging, you don’t feel a desperate urge of the problem in the story, and even the battle system is disappointing. Pretty to look at, yeah, gorgeous, but when you go back to playing games from the PSone and PS2 because they’re more fun? You have a problem.

  • enorka miho

    just do not take Nomura away.. He is pretty much still the heart of SE…

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