An Ar tonelico Character Returns For Ar NoSurge

By Spencer . February 11, 2014 . 1:32am

imageGust already announced that Ion and Cas from from Ciel NoSurge will be playable in Ar NoSurge. Ar NoSurge has elements from the Ar tonelico series like Song Magic and according to Dengeki the PlayStation 3 game has a familiar character too.


Ayatane Michitaka an old friend of Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia hero Lyner is in Ar NoSurge. The magazine also mentions a girl named Nero is in the game too.


Ar NoSurge is scheduled for release on March 6.

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  • Yes, they also revealed Shurelia from the first Ar tonelico last month, but it seems that you guys are unaware of that.

    • AlphaSixNine

      Really? I guess I saw that report somewhere else lol. Thought I saw it here.

    • Zeonsilt

      Shurelia is in Ar NoSurge?Awesome.

  • AlphaSixNine


    • Anesia Hunter

      Can she even leave out of the range of the first tower safely?

      • kannasama9854

        We saw that she could with Ar Tonelico II.

        • icecoffemix

          Pretty sure it’s because the second tower is within the range of the first tower.

        • aquagon

          You’re wrong. Metafalss is still inside Ar tonelico’s range, and she didn’t go to Sol Cluster because that region is on the exact opposite side of the planet from Sol Ciel, so she would have left the tower’s range and died if she had tried going there.

      • icecoffemix

        Even if she can’t why does that limit her being in this game?

        • Anesia Hunter

          same game, maybe no issue then.

          • icecoffemix

            No, it’s not, since this set before the war that made people live in floating continent the map would have to be completely different. Beside inside the tower of course but it’s now full 3D anyway so the only similarities is going to be the theme.

          • aquagon

            The timeline. The game has been hinted to take place a few years before the Grathnode Inferia, so it would be more than 300 years before Mir was even created.

          • icecoffemix

            Huh? Then it would be different Ayatane than the one Mir met?

          • aquagon

            It’s been confirmed that it’s the case. The Ayatane Mir met is Ayatane Michitaka Kirinami, while the one appearing here is Ayatane Karyou Kirinami. Most likely, it’s the grandfather of that Ayatane, or some other kind of relative.

          • icecoffemix

            Lol why even bother I wonder, is he even popular? At least we know that he won’t be dead or is already old enough to have kids in this game.

          • aquagon

            I’m having the suspicion that he was the mastermind behind the Grathnode Inferia. After all, it was said that the Terus from the Ayatane clan were the ones that led all the other clans in the sabotage operation that had that enormous catastrophe as its final outcome.

          • Kai2591

            oh. So that’s when this game takes place…I wonder how the story will go, since we know the inevitable disasters that will come..(is a happy end even possible despite that? lol)

  • Raze

    The ultimate dark samurai…

    Mir will be the last salvation for this game…

  • Liamv2

    If he’s here then that means that we might get to see Mir.

    • icecoffemix

      We definitely will see Mir, unless if it’s the other Ayatane…

      • Keksus

        Well. The other Ayatane didn’t exist before AT3.

        • icecoffemix

          Not that one but the one that exist before all other Ayatane. His (and Mir’s) story is told in the song.

  • Zeonsilt
    According to source,Shurelia will play a major role in Ar NoSurge’s story.
    *Insert your “YES!YES!YES” quote here*

    • icecoffemix

      Wow they’re really really good in translating 2D to 3D now, guess all those Atelier game paid off.

  • Astraye

    Wait, so Ar No Surge is in the same world of Ar Tonelico ?

    • Speedo Redempteur

      The timeline is like this :

      Ciel no surge > ar no surge > ar tonelico 1 > ar tonelico 2 > ar tonelico 3

      Just so you know this ayatane will probably the “original” since the ayatane is tonelico 1 was a copy , a fake made by mir to look like someone she “liked”
      Shurelia is also confirmed in ar no surge

      • Furu Chi

        Did Ciel no surge get localized?

        • Keksus


          • Furu Chi

            *Sigh* I guess Ar no surge is a no go aswell :((

          • icecoffemix

            Ciel no Surge is a full waifu simulator, Ar no Surge is Ar Tonelico direct prequel in story and genre.

          • Keksus

            Ciel no Surge is a dating sim. Not the kind of game that sells well outside of Japan. Ar No Surge is a JRPG.

          • Furu Chi

            Ohh sorry for not doing my homework. Thanks for clearing that up :D

    • Keksus

      It’s a prequel.

  • Aldorr

    maybe, MAYBE TekKoi will be willing to translate this. I would not let my hopes be high – to not fall into FURIOUS RAGE if it will not hapen

    • Kai2591

      I feels yah.

  • Zeongundam

    I already saw Ayatane coming. Surprised they didn’t keep him a surprise though. Pretty neat that we’re seeing some familiar faces.

  • Nero is part of the Ciel Nosurge story where it is revealed that she originally comes from beyond the 7th dimension (where the story takes place), which gives her a kind of to see and manipulate the 7th dimension easily (like how a 3d person can see the entirety of a 2d maze at once, etc). She was used as the source of power and multitasking core for the Ciel Tron server.

    In Ciel Nosurge, Tron allow just about anyone to connect and perform some preset song magic.

    Nero’s appearance in Ar Nosurge is interesting considering the events of Chapter 7.

    • Zeongundam

      Thanks for the clarification. :)

    • Oh and Gust just announced that they’re doing an “Ar Nosurge Caravan Event”. Couple of locations in Tokyo and Osaka they’re going to setup and let people take a shot at an Ar Nosurge battle. If you can activate the song magic and clear the level, you get a present (picture of some kind, not revealed).

      Tsuchiya (Director) will also be doing some kind of talk show presentation along with these events (with an unannounced guest).

      They’re also posting a screenshot-a-day at the Arno-Connection page:

    • Keksus

      I sthere some way to read up the full Ciel no Surge story? I’m really interested in it but don’t have a Vita.

      • aquagon

        A member of A Reyvatei’s Melody called knightless made a pastebin that contains all of the important details for Ciel nosurge’s plot and characters:

        • Kai2591

          Thanks. I shall save this and consume it ONLY as a last resort should the possibility of Ceil Nosurge being localized is absolutely ZERO :)

    • aquagon

      Not so much if you take in account the events of Chapter 8. In fact, Nero still being present in Ar nosurge was pretty much a given due to the CLASS songs using the REON-4213 language (ie: they interface with REON’s consciousness), and as far as I remember, if Nero/REON disappears, the Ciel notron server becomes useless and no one can use magic through the Ciel notrons or any other devices that need REON to work. Therefore, it would make no sense for these songs to work if she wasn’t present there too.

      • Finished Chapter 7 last night and dealing with moody Ion. I figured something would get worked out but yeah, that was the status, Nero/REON gone, no Ciel Notron, and Ion and Renaruru (however she’s supposed to be romanized) “dead”.

        Obviously they’re not really dead, just wasn’t sure what was going to be done to fix the server issue.

        Dealing with my very depressed Ion and catching up on Extra scenarios for 5-7 before starting up 8. Trying to have 10 finished by the end of the weekend so I’ll probably just have to skip Extras.

        • aquagon

          So in other words, you’ll need to leave her alone for a few days before she allows you to give her orders or even allow you into the Dream World again. I remember hearing this was one of the most annoying points in the game.

          • It’s very annoying. Fortunately one of the recent patches greatly expanded your ability to go Dream World (you can do it anytime now except for when she’s away. Bath time, restroom, cooking, eating, etc are all okay now) so she’ll let me go Dream World (though she looks unhappy about it and doesn’t say anything when we get back either), thus why I’m doing Extra Scenario right now.

            Might to say screw it and move on the Chapter 8 anyways. Time draws near and I want to get caught up.

          • aquagon

            That might be the best option, actually. Ion might take anything from three days to a full week to get out from her depression, so if you’re pressed for time, I’d be best that you go on regardless of this.

  • Ayatane! Don’t let him hit the ground in Cross Edge!

  • MaximDualBlade

    I liked this guy. Glad to see him back. So Ar no Surge is officially in the world of Ar Tonelico? Or just some random cameos?

    • Godmars

      Wait. That’s a gu- *Oh Never Mind!*

      (Damnit Japan…)

      • MaximDualBlade

        I hadn’t noticed that they made him more feminine here

        • icecoffemix

          It’s his sprite from the original Ar Tonelico, we don’t have any pic of him from this game yet.

          • MaximDualBlade

            Holy! I don’t remember him so bishounen. Weird, I remember him with a bad guy face

          • icecoffemix

            lol while I always remember him being that pretty boy with suspicious looking smile.

  • Marcus

    Loved him in cross edge. He was always in my party :)

  • Asaoko

    If Shurelia’s here, as well as Ayatane… That pretty much means Mir, right?! Since she’s the one responsible for AT1, it’s a sin not to include her! D8<

    …Is what I think, but to put it more politely: Yes, Gust. Yes, please. Mir, please. More songs from her, thank you. D;

    • aquagon

      No. This Ayatane has nothing to do with the ones from the Ar tonelico games aside of possibly being a relative of them, as well as being part of the same branch of the Teru Tribe: the Munoph/Ayatane clan.
      Plus, the Genometric Concerts have already confirmed that Mitose (Mir’s singer) will be only singing one song (CLASS::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE;) and that’s already been given to the same character for who she sang in Ciel nosurge: Zirillium Lemonait.

  • Fragmentsofdreams

    Ok… now give us Jacqli…

  • Kornelious

    Hope we get this is the west, I quite enjoyed Ar Tonelico :)

  • Göran Isacson

    Oooh, that guy. Would be kidna fun to see all these immortal dudes and dudettes in their earliest stages… makes one wonder if they will really play a big part though, considering I seem to recall that them being isolated from most of humanity was a pretty big part of their character in the original games.

    • aquagon

      Considering the Ayatane clan was one of the culprits behind the sabotage of the First Tower and the subsequent power overload that caused the Grathnode Inferia, I’d say they would indeed play an important part.

      • Göran Isacson

        Aaah, I maybe should have been clearer with what I meant. I was talking about Shurelia and the… whatever the term was for the original Reyvateils, the ones who were around when the towers were first built. THEM I recall being isolated from most other people.

        Of course, I could always just be misremembering things.

        • aquagon

          Reyvateil Origins. And the isolation mostly came for Frelia and Tilia due to them both having gone into cold sleep after the Second Tower became impossible to build due to the Grathnode Inferia (Frelia) and after Tilia’s Tower transformation ended in failure. As for Shurelia, she didn’t live really isolated for most of her life, as she always had to be around people in order to lead the order of things and maintain the stability of the Tower in Sol Ciel. However, she did begin repressing her emotions after the Second Era ended.

  • aquagon

    And this is what happens when all major western gaming news outlets don’t cover an important piece of information when it’s released.

    All of the following was confirmed to appear in Ar nosurge during January at Dengeki Online, 4gamer and Famitsu:

    FIrst Tower of Ar tonelico:
    The subregion of Syestine, part of Sol Cluster and where the Third Tower was built after its complete destruction in the same year Shurelia was born:
    First image of Shurelia in Ar nosurge ever revealed (note that it’s Delta and Casty with Shurelia in the room where the Orgel of Origins is supposed to be):

    Shurelia’s 3D model:

    • MaximDualBlade

      Ar no Surge takes place in another planet right? How come we have so many similarities? and how can they time travel? Am I looking to far?

  • Spirit Macardi

    Okay, now I’m a bit worried… If this actually takes place in the world of Ar Tonelico, it’ll make no sense at all since Qoga resolved literally everything. Which means something would no doubt need to be retconned in order to have any conflict, and I believe heavily in letting a completed story remain completed.

    (Seriously, if you’re going to downvote me for stating an opinion in a respectful manner, then you’re just proving how flimsy your own views are.)

    • KuroNathan

      Same universe, different planet

      • Spirit Macardi

        That raises a few more questions, but at least it’s not a retcon.

        As long as it doesn’t undo Qoga’s ending, I can accept it.

    • aquagon

      Plus, it’s that characters from Ra Ciela are sent to Ar Ciel in the period of time prior to the Grathnode Inferia. That way, it can’t really retcon or do anything to the plotline of the three games.

    • Arcana Drill

      this is a prequel. Before the first game.

    • Göran Isacson

      What Aquagon said- we’re in prequel town here.

    • Lynx

      Not sequel.

      They technically can’t do a sequel without BanNam/Banpre.

      • aquagon

        Though they have gotten Namco-Bandai’s permission for this game, as it can be seen in the trademarks in the Ar nosurge official site. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be seeing anything from Ar tonelico here.

  • Guest

    so Ciel no Surge and Ar no Surge are in the timeline long after AT3 i guess
    with Ayatana only be alive due to being a Virus actually

    • Anesia Hunter

      no. it takes place over 700 years before AT1. so it’s not the same ayatane.

  • Yan Zhao

    Patiently awaiting localization news.

  • Vash bane

    ah the pretty boy lol I remember him kinda

  • Yuuki

    This Ayatane is a completely different character…

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