Tecmo Koei Made Toukiden Because Monster Hunter Moved To 3DS

By Spencer . March 4, 2014 . 2:27am

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Tecmo Koei joined the hunting game ranks with Toukiden: The Age of Demons. While it came out just last month, Toukiden was originally announced in 2012 before God Eater 2 and Freedom Wars.

 

"In Japan, there is a large market for portables like Vita and PSP. Within that, there are a lot of people into hunting games, as well. Capcom has been releasing their titles on Nintendo 3DS," producer Hisashi Koinuma said to Siliconera. "Because of that, we thought there are a lot of Sony users who would like to see a hunting game and that’s why we came up with Toukiden."

 

Like many of Koei’s titles, Toukiden: The Age of Demons has hints of history in it. The Oni are from Japanese myths and players can attach the spirits of Japanese warriors to their weapons. Koinuma explained that, "Koei is well known for are historical titles, especially games based on Japanese history. That being one of our strengths we used that has a key theme for Toukiden: The Age of Demons."


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  • chibidw

    “”Because of that, we thought there are a lot of Sony users who would like to see a hunting game and that’s why we came up with Toukiden.””

    You know what I’d also like to see on the Vita, Tecmo Koei? Atelier Rorona. HINT HINT.

    • Kamakuma

      Wasn’t there a remake for our lovable pie loving alchemy teacher? @-@

      • nick_54g

        that’s what he was referring to

    • Kornelious

      Word :)

    • Lucky Dan

      don’t forget Atelier Ayesha with dual audio as well ;_;

      • Slayven19

        Can you people give them time to make the announcements?

  • Lemski07

    Good job on toukiden , they are on the right track. just a little more tweaking and graphical improvements.

  • Shippoyasha

    Obviously, a game that is as popular as Monster Hunter will have negative consequences of squeezing out the competing severely. It’s a really smart move considering Vita can always use new game franchises. And the system sales are holding steadily and all it needs are some hits to get the owners on board.

    • malek86

      Even so, however, I don’t think it’s a wise idea to ignore the new hunting market that was created on the 3DS. Considering they have even made a PSP version, I think a concurrent 3DS release could have made sense (and MH4 was a long way off at the time, so there was still little risk of competition).

      Nonetheless, things seem to have worked out well for them. I think we’ll see a Toukiden 2 before long, this time for PSV only.

      • JonathanisPrimus

        It wouldn’t have made sense to release Toukiden as a PSV/3DS release. By doing that they’d lose Sony’s marketing support, and they’d no longer be able to support cross-platform multiplayer.

        • ronin4life

          It… *could* be a good move: With the install base, the potential to sell past any potential losses from Sony support is definitely there.

          If they could compete against Monster Hunter anyway… as well as the rest of 3ds’s massive library. That is were this idea would fall apart I think.

        • Link

          Basically the same argument on why Monster Hunter shouldn’t be multiplat as well. I dont mind Toukiden being a Vita exclusive because it needs games like these.

          • JonathanisPrimus

            There is a difference between Monster Hunter and Toukiden. One is an established brand with distinct subseries. Toukiden was a new IP. Capcom could’ve easily had different Monster Hunter games on Vita, and 3DS (Vita continues the Monster Hunter Portable line, and 3DS gets the mainseries) but decided against that. They don’t need a first party’s marketing support either.

          • Link

            For the Japan no they dont need Nintendo’s support, out west though its Nintendo who has been marketing and establishing the franchise out here, thats the type of support I was referencing too.

  • makubexnas

    what ‘if’ Rockstar try to make a monster hunting game? what would the game be?

    http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250×250/43897193.jpg

    • neocatzon

      Red Dead Redemption spinoff as a cowboy era hunting game?

    • Keine

      have leashes and whips as weapons??

    • Skeptika Crediblus

      As long as there is Sexy Time involved, I approve and endorse this.

    • platomaker

      It sounds …like that could work actually. Stupid as it might sound, something like this may not be too far off. Shameless pandering aside, it could turn out pretty darn good. (Didn’t the battlefield series start off as “bad company one”, I might be getting senile)

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    “Capcom once copying our Samurai Warriors as Sengoku Basara, now we’re doing the same with Monster Hunter. And this time there’s no bashing to each other because MH moved to 3DS”

  • http://altsune.com/ Altsune

    All I wanted was a hunting game that I could play with my online buddies, since it’s hard to find a local that was serious about Monster Hunter.
    Toukiden delivered where Monster Hunter 3U (3DS) didn’t.

    I mean, if I had a Wii-U, this wouldn’t be an issue- but I can’t be asked to tell all of my friends to buy a Wii-U to play one game.

    • CozyAndWarm

      But they’ll all buy a Vita for one game?

      • outlawauron

        Luckily for him, he can play with people online.

        • Aaron K Stone

          and so will MonHun 4.

        • CozyAndWarm

          He can with Wii U too though

      • Slayven19

        A vita is cheaper than a wiiU right?

        • http://altsune.com/ Altsune

          Yep!

      • JonathanisPrimus

        Vita likely has more hunting games than Wii U has quality games in general. Almost all of them feature online play too.

        • http://altsune.com/ Altsune

          That’s what I’m saying! XD
          Glad someone understands.

      • http://altsune.com/ Altsune

        Yes, isn’t it a no-brainer? Yes, we’d get Vitas for Toukiden, because there are actually hunting games with online play on that handheld. Several of them.
        .
        We want to play hunting games online with our friends at home, and be able to take it with us while we’re travelling.

        While it is possible to do that with MH3U, that requires buying the same Monster Hunter game twice, two consoles (Wii-U and 3DS), or we have to wait until next year for MH4U.

        If I had to buy a PS3/4 to play Toukiden online, we’d still get it over the Wii-U because of the other games on Sony’s system that you could play with Ad-hoc party (meaning, other Monster Hunter games and Gods Eater).

    • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

      Wait until Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate then.

  • mynameisdats

    Vita users are hungry for hunting games. Thank you Koei. :)

  • Rose Spinoza

    Haha, gotta love their honesty.

  • OlimacFTW

    Tecmo Koei says: Vita users are hungry thanks to the “lack” of hunting games, but still I wonder if they don’t know about God Eater, Soul Sacrifice and the soon to be released Freedom Wars.

    • .:Raphællius:.

      God Eater 2 never got released outside of japan remember? And Soul Sacrifice Did fairly well. But despite doing fairly well, MH fanboys/girls kept complaining how it did not turn out as good as MH and that it was a failed clone. Still best vita Hunting game in my opinion though. :)

      • cyberkinghardy

        it was released outside japan, though not in the west. mostly asian countries

        • Jason Ryer

          God eater 1 came to the states digitally so 2 will at some point. It just has not been announced yet. This will be the vita boom year where a lot more games will start to get ports outside of japan.

    • keithmaxx

      Tells you how much sway MH has over the hunting gamers demographic. I think no other game comes close, much less so on a Vita.

    • Jason Ryer

      True but soul Sacrifice is a different style game then Monster hunter if you think about traditional hunting games. Once the player gained magic you can get the bad ending right off the bat. Freedom Wars is ‘rumored’ to be coming out in June so until then its too early to say soon to be released. Delta will be the only big hitter for tecmo to worry about if freedom wars gets delayed.

  • .:Raphællius:.

    The best hunting game remains to be SS IMO. I’ve never played Monster Hunter, and Toukiden sadly didn’t turn out what i expected it to be. I kinda knew that Tecoei made this game to get the old MH fans in possession of a vita to buy it.

    • WhyWai

      While SS is good game, but I dun think it’s a “hunting” game….

      • .:Raphællius:.

        Well it’s not an traditional hunting game indeed, but it still has the key elements of a hunting game.

    • Satori Satya

      “The best hunting game remains to be SS IMO. I’ve never played Monster Hunter…”

      Your opinion will survive as long as you stay away from the truth.

      • Pedro Furtado

        I would hand it to Monster Hunter as being the best hunting game, but Soul Sacrifice is a more complete single player experience, in my opnion, which isn’t exactly the original focus of these games.

        • Satori Satya

          Its a good game in its own right. No doubt.

          But when it comes to creature Huntin’ games? MonHun is still da king.

  • JonathanisPrimus

    “Tecmo Koei joined the hunting game ranks with Toukiden: The Age of Demons. While it came out just last month, Toukiden was originally announced in 2012 before God Eater 2 and Freedom Wars.”

    Tecmo Koei joined the hunting game ranks with Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce. God Eater 2 was announced in 2011, and was then announced for Vita on the same day Toukiden was unveiled …

  • Aaron K Stone

    Makes sense.

  • Ethan_Twain

    That’s just how to get me excited about a game. Telling me straight up “Nah, this didn’t come from a place of creative inspiration or anything. We just saw that Capcom’s big IP wasn’t on every platform so we decided to make a me-too on the Vita.”

    • J_Joestar

      gotta love the honesty.

    • psycho_bandaid

      Eh, not like they could’ve fooled anybody anyway. As far as clones go it’s a good one, and it’s pretty clear Vita will never get a Monster Hunter game.

      That said, I wonder how many people own a Vita, but not a 3DS? The Vita seems to only appeal to the “hardcore” (excuse the term, I can’t think of a better one) who would likely want both handhelds anyway.

      • Chris Evan Jonance Ingeniero

        i have Both ^_^

    • http://sstatus.wordpress.com/ Matt

      I have no problem with this. I want next-gen MH. I can’t have it. I’ll take Toukiden if it’s up to the challenge.

  • Learii

    I glad they did but PS3 never get any hunter game expect Raganok Odyssey Ace

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/jodecideion?feature=mhum TheWon and Only

    The statement seems kind of weird because I believe the game would have came to a Sony system. Regardless if Monster Hunter was on 3DS or not. The real question is would the game been somehow made on the 3DS if it didn’t have a hunting game. Regardless of the 3DS capabilities to run the game!

    • ronin4life

      3DS could run it: The PSP did.

      But it sounds more like they are saying it would never have been made if MH stayed on Sony handhelds.

  • Rafael Budzinski

    …great thinking. But to say Vita doesn’t have hunting games is a little exaggerated, as it have Lord of Apocalypse, Ragnarok Odissey/Ace, Soul Sacrifice/Delta, God Eater 2 (and will have Freedom Wars)…

    • ronin4life

      It isn’t because it wasn’t: A market was vacated and companies rushed to fill the void.

      Which has potentially created an over-saturation in the Vita Market.

      • Rafael Budzinski

        …more or less, because some of these games were present on the “first batch” of games of the system. But I have to agree that, despite God Eater 2 and Soul Sacrifice, they aren’t the bests of the genre though…

  • leingod

    Personally, I’m enjoying the heck out of Toukiden, so I’m glad they did.

  • http://people.ign.com/rob1610 rob1610

    No wonder my friend decided to drop Monster Hunter completely recently…

  • Draparde

    I’m glad they made it, while i like Monhun better, toukiden isint a bad game.

  • CozyAndWarm

    After MH4′s sales numbers, it seems strange that Tecmo would avoid the 3DS hunting market for the game. It almost certainly would have driven up sales

    • Epi09

      The problem with Monhun is that it makes everyone else reluctant to compete with them. There is no Hunting market it out for the 3ds it’s Monhun and that’s it. Every other hunting game is on the vita or another system.

  • platomaker

    “Best hunting game”, I think a game called “monster hunter” will pretty much eclipse any other attempt at that “sub-sub-genre”. You want to beat monster hunter? Don’t do a “hunting game”. Phantasy Star online for the dreamcast was good, but many comparisons can be drawn from it and monster hunter- no matter what, no one would think it as a “hunting game”. If an industry leader is leading the competition by the nose, then you’ll only see the competition in an inferior light, thus, DO SOMETHING NEW WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL.

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