Final Fantasy XV Will Feel Like A Group Of Guys Going On A Road Trip

By Sato . September 22, 2014 . 2:10am

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Square Enix shared the latest look at Final Fantasy XV with a new trailer and gameplay footage during Tokyo Game Show 2014. Hajime Tabata, who has taken over the role of director from Tetsuya Nomura, recently spoke with 4Gamer about the game’s characters and more.

 

During the interview, 4Gamer mentions that after seeing the latest trailer in Tokyo Game Show, along with some demonstration footage, it looks like the development of Final Fantasy XV seems to have gotten quite far already.

 

“At the moment, it feels like it’s at around 50 – 55%. The system’s basic parts are more or less complete, and you won’t have to wait another five or ten years after the release of the demo, so don’t worry. Of course if it isn’t well-received, we’ll have to re-think things,” Tabata replies with a laugh.

 

Next, 4Gamer asks if it’s safe to say that Final Fantasy XV will be an open-world RPG.

 

“In the sense that the world is seamlessly connected, then yes, that’s right,” responds Tabata. “That’s how the story will be told, as you ride a car and go on a journey.”

 

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The interviewer also mentions that the trailer’s style and the way the characters were shown, gave off the vibe of a road movie, which is basically where the main characters leave home to travel from place to place, and are often placed in situations that are different from their everyday lives. In Final Fantasy XV‘s case, Prince Noctis is on the run and will go on a journey with his buddies.

 

“Exactly. We’re designing it to be a road movie that you can experience as an RPG. You’ll feel the romance of going on a trip, and such,” Tabata says.

 

4Gamer then mentions that the trailer and demonstration footage both focused on male characters, and that they get a feeling that it will be like a trip with guys. Meanwhile, they point out, we’ve only seen female characters in cutscenes.

 

“The party will only have male characters,” replies Tabata, “and that hasn’t changed since its previous form of [Final Fantasy Versus XIII].”

 

4Gamer asks if the road movie-style is also something that the game inherited from the days Versus XIII.

 

“Yes, we’re making Final Fantasy XV to have a strong road movie vibe to it,” explains Tabata. It’s a part of the game in which we’re placing great importance.”

 

Final Fantasy XV is in development for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.


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  • theguyacrossthetable

    OH HEY NO FEMALE CHARACTERS

    THIS GAME MUST BE MISOGYNISTIC :^ }

    Jokes aside though… I really am interested in the road trip vibe they are going for. Also really digging the homey vibe I’m picking up from the group of friends.

    • Shippoyasha

      Don’t even jinx it! Funny thing is, what I’m reading from Tumblr and some sites, FF fans are quick to point out the series has always been amazing with female character representation. And besides, this stylistic choice seems to actually be catering more towards the female demographic.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        If only Ubisoft said that about Unity than imply it’s overbloated, then people wouldn’t be harping at Ubisoft.

        • Shippoyasha

          Ubisoft gets so much undue flack as I see it, when there’s been some amazing games that they published that had great female protags like Child of LIght. People like hounding on them the way people love to do that with EA. Big bad companies people want to treat as an easy target.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      This ain’t like AssCred Unity. This is probably more of a choice of what kind of story Tabata and Nomura want to tell, not because of re-working some animations.

      What’s the point of having a story about brotherhood if you shoe-horn in a female party member?

      Remember that X-2 had an all-female party. Let XV be X-2’s polar opposite.

      • MaidKillua

        No one’s made a comment about how X-2’s polar opposite is a game that’s actually good yet??? WELL THEN, I guess I better step in (Nah I didn’t mind X-2 even if it wasn’t great)

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          I hate X-2 for it’s J-pop/Charlie’s Angels nonsense. It feels insulting.

          I want a game that’s the exact opposite. Mature, cultured, intelligent, fun, never insulting my intelligence. That is what I want from XV.

          It’s hard to imagine something like Tactics and X-2 sharing the same name despite severely different tones.

    • chronocide

      Sorry man. The Tumblrinas are all up in arms about it already.

  • Dark Zerato

    Yes, I was right. FFXV is about a boy band going on a picnic. This is some kind of otome FF for fan girl. Oh, I miss the old days.

    • Wasn’t 13 for anime lovers?

      • Dark Zerato

        Anime lovers are much more than otome fans.

        • Is there a real difference between the two?

          • Dark Zerato

            There is. Anime lovers consist of boys and girls. Otome fans are mostly girls.

          • I meant in a sense that anime has a huge fan girl fan base like otome.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        Which kind? We know death has no meaning in XIII as well stuff happening in stories is the equivalent to a child claiming to have an everything-proof shield so he doesn’t lose.

    • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

      Agreed. At this point, we really need a FF like FFVI and FFIX. Something that is Medieval and has all the traditional FF gameplay and story themes.

      In other words, we really need Hiroyuki Ito directing FFXVI. Thankfully, all signs point to fact that he already is.

      • Basically a game with a good story, characters and somewhat of spin on traditional elements.

      • AndyLC

        That’s Final Fantasy XIV, the director of the game even straight up said “it most resembles FF6”

        The game you’re looking for is already out, XIV is a really really solid game

        • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

          What? FFXIV is nothing like FFVI. The mainline FF games that most resemble FFVI are FFIX and FFXII, all of which were directed by Hiroyuki Ito.

          Also, FFXIV ARR is a MMORPG, which FFVI was not.

  • I hope FF XV is good. Really don’t have faith in the series anymore. Not fond of the “road trip movie” vibe. SE is almost obsessed with glorified cut scenes.

  • TheDarkEmpress

    Awwww shiiiiiit

  • SupaPhly

    The Hangover: FF Edition

  • AndyLC

    Final Fantasy+Road trips has always, always delivered

    (…followed by a massive hit of THE FEELS ;_;)

    *btw FFXV has the same director as Crisis Core, Hajime Tabata

    • LemonsArentForever

      argh dont do this to me…this scene, this scene right here i played during my puberty years and it took me on an emotional roller coaster from hell…i think i was scared to even put another game in my psp for awhile in fear of tarnishing the experience i had just had.

      • AndyLC

        Hajime Tabata directed Crisis Core. Hajime Tabata is now heading FFXV

        Tabata also directed FF Type-0, which has an intro sequence of a soldier slowly bleeding to death as he futily tries to cast cure on his dying chocobo (no magic points left)

        Based on previous works, FFXV gonna hit ALL THE FEELS

        • LemonsArentForever

          well then…i can’t play this around my girlfriend, not cause i don’t want her crying but because i’m crying and she’ll think i’m a bitch…then again maybe the feels will totally be cancelled out by hearing noctis go ARE WE THERE YET every 15 seconds and the end of the game is them getting to their destination, which is spring break in cancun.

          • Shippoyasha

            Tabata did say the original theme of this game (when it was still Versus 13) was ‘tragedy’ or something to that effect, so hold onto your butt!

          • LemonsArentForever

            well if he can get me attached to the characters then ill absolutely be terrified of the inevitable tragedy that will wipe them all out.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            As long as there is a good amount of comedy first, then bring on the tragedy. We need to like and fun with the characters before something bad happens. If the characters end up likeable, then we might feel legit empathy when tragedy strikes.

            Think of the times Game of Thrones had characters we root for before they get killed off.

          • HarakiriKami

            What is this akame ga kiru?

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            I don’t know. What is it?

          • MrSirFeatherFang

            I dunno how this came up, but Akame ga Kill is a currently ongoing manga series and it also has an anime adaptation that’s currently airing now too.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          I don’t like the word “feels” because it reminds of teens going on about “FFFFEEEEEEEELLLLIIIINNNGSSS!!!” with stuff like Anakin Skywalker whining, Bella and Edward staring awkwardly at each other and XIII with Vanille’s speech about miracles.

          But Type-0 seems to avoid all this and isn’t afraid to show characters dying violently. XIII had none of that because Toriyama assumed we always want young and physically attractive characters to always live and have a happy ending.

          Type-0 and XV seem more to my liking, especially since I’m more into things like Blackadder and Fraiser as oppose to garbage like iCarly, Zack & Cody or Hannah Montana.

          • AndyLC

            iCarly is where Emily Ratajkowski got her start so it’s not all bad

  • Shippoyasha

    I hope if it’ll have a comedic side at that point. Sounds interesting at least. Kind of like the opposite of how FFX-2 was an all female cast.

    Kind of surprised it’s 55%ish done. I would have thought it’d be more like 15% due to all the secrecy about it.

    • Coming to next gens systems…. it wouldn’t surprise me it they released it around 2020.

    • Tarkovsky

      According to Gematsu, it’s actually 55% done since Tabata took over, so that’s really fast.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      As long the comedy is good. X-2 and the XIII trilogy were like a woman putting on a valley girl voice, knowing it sounds annoying, but doesn’t get that it’s still annoying anyway and people will want to rip her head off.

  • Tarkovsky

    This is going to have a huge HUUUGE female fanbase in Japan.

    • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

      On 2ch there were females already hating that there’s no female party members. This game has already disappointed them. LOL!

      • Tarkovsky

        Well, a few women on 2ch do not represent what all women in Japan think. One cannot argue with the success of Arashi, SMAP, EXILE and etc and how most women like men like those and the FFXV cast. I’m sure there are men who are disappointed as well because they want to play as female characters.

        • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

          True. I just don’t think as many females will like FFXV in Japan as you think. If I hadn’t seen that 2ch backlash, I’d have agreed with you. Boy bands are really popular over there, after all.

          • Shippoyasha

            Let’s not forget that 2ch is overdramatic to the extreme. So take the ‘outrage’ there with a grain of salt. Certain gaming news outlets I would rather not mention doesn’t.

        • Kensike

          With that logic that you’re presenting, what makes you so sure that a large female demographic in japan will go nuts with FFXV If it’s not even out? Hiro just pointed a valid source with women complaining, and you flat out just said no they’re stupid they don’t represent japan wtf women will love this

          • Sato

            2ch as a valid source. . .

          • Kensike

            Are you implying that because it’s from a site like 2ch, that makes it any less valid? /b/ is full of rediculous people too, but that doesn’t detract from any points they make

          • Sato

            Er, yes?

            Sure, they can make good points, but these are still based off opinions from a very minor, yet vocal, audience. Like Shippoyasha said, I’d take this by the grain of salt.

          • Shippoyasha

            Not that it’s less valid. But it’s prone to extreme drama. It’s like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. They are melodramatic about almost every hot topic.

          • Yuki97

            what has this world come too? And that user is a joke anyways

          • Tarkovsky

            Whoa whoa there. Being a little feisty there aren’t you. Firstly, I never said anything about women on 2ch being stupid, I just said that a vocal minority don’t represent the majority. Secondly, I lived in Japan for awhile a couple of years ago and made many female friends. I can tell you, 8 out of 10 women love beautiful men or bishounen like those in Arashi, SMAP and the cast in FFXV. You can choose to not believe me but it’s a fact that different cultures have different standards of beauty and it just so happens that a majority of women in Japan like thin, slender and more feminine men. Of course there’s always the exception and I know women who love muscular men so yea take that with what you will.

        • The majority of people could careless so long as the characters they’re playing as are likeable.

        • HarakiriKami

          sengoku basara and tales too

    • Hector Velar

      the biggest mistake a company can ever do is to single out their audience, that is a suicide wish.

      • Tarkovsky

        Actually it’s the other way around. A company that has a target audience for a game is more likely to succeed than one who doesn’t. Just take Destiny as the best recent example, such a mishmash of so many genres that they ultimately lost focus on who they wish to cater/appeal to. FPS fans find it an incompetent FPS, RPG fans find it a lackluster RPG. Even fans of both find it an inferior Borderlands. Sure, it sold well but that was purely down to hype, coverage and advertising.

        • Hector Velar

          are you insane “Destiny Holds Lead in UK Chart, With PS4 Driving Sales” “Destiny sales total $325M in first five days”. Now to explain better what I meant, if you have a product and you limited to one audience…only that audience is going to buy, If you make it so that it will satisfy a broader audience you will get more sales. for example you release a game a game just for the Nintendo WiiU, will it sell as much as if you make it for WiiU+PS3+PS4+xbox360+xbone? not at all! how many copies of Mario Kart 8 would have sold if Nintendo was not hugging it? you limit the game to flavor to girls, then those are who are going to buy the game, a very limited audience if you ask me, I know there are more female gamers now than back in the 1990’s but the numbers will tell.

        • MaidKillua

          FPS fans love incompetent FPS’s though. They’ve had the top sales figures year on year since the start of last gen. I dunno how Destiny could possibly be worse than the stuff they already fawn over (Although I did only play a little of the beta)

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Nothing new. The only thing that rivals Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts in that regard is Devil May Cry.

      • Wappuli

        Sengoku Basara.

  • Elbender

    I am not going to like this, I can already feel it. I mean, males only, and I hate the small blonde one since the first time I heard him talking

    • Juede

      I recommend you play it first just saying :D

    • Kalis Konig

      Well go play Neptunia maybe. All girls. lol

      • Elbender

        I already played all of them, waiting for the next, thanks

        • anonymous

          Pathetic

          • Misty Dawson

            We back in to the girls have cooties stage?

          • anonymous

            We’re back in the “Neptunia is terrible and you should feel embarassed” stage
            In fact we never left

          • Misty Dawson

            Aw that’s sooo cute.

        • Kalis Konig

          Girls RPG by level 5 then. That should keep you busy.

        • Shadow Rebirth

          Senran Kagura?

  • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

    Ugh. The concept sounds garbage.

    – Over importance of the car due to it being a road movie?
    – Backstreet Boys party with no females?
    – Fully automated combat with Auto-Attack and Auto-Dodge buttons?

    This game is a walking corpse at this point. Just give me a traditional Medieval FF like FFIX, but just with realistic size characters and using Luminous Studio graphics.

    • E.T.993

      At least we have Bravely Default. :3

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        I hate how deformed and ugly the character models look in the game. I want detailed and realistic character models in a Medieval FFIX and Bravely Default world.

        • Shippoyasha

          Wha, really? I loved the super deformed style in Bravely. Besides, you said you loved FF9? That had a more deformed style than Bravely.

          • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

            Not really. If you look at the in-game character model s for Zidane and Garnet, you’ll see they look more detailed than the in-game character models in Bravely Default. I’d just like detailed and realistic character models like in FFXV, but with Medieval clothing/armour and in a FFIX world.

          • Shippoyasha

            Well, I meant that the characters had a really odd body proportions in FF9. I still loved the game, but boy was characters like Steiner look goofy. I think the next gen handhelds will easily handle intricate designs though. The Vita and smartphones already does it. A lot of detail might not show very well on a 3DS with its low screen resolution.

    • AndyLC

      >>Just give me a traditional Medieval FF

      FFXI, FFXII, FFXIV are all in medieval fantasy style. XIV is a damn solid game, you should check it out.

      (Yeah it’s an MMO, but it really is a numbered FF title in terms of story content and world lore)

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        I played the Beta for 20 hours, It was a fun game. I’d score it a 7/10 overall. However, I don’t like having to pay monthly subscription fees for games. I also don’t like games that are always online.

      • Hector Velar

        just mod your Skyrim game to match graphics of those in FF games, change the intro and loading screens to say FFXV…BOOM you got it. It is not that hard, my Skyrim looks much better of what they were showing on this video :P

        • HarakiriKami

          Skyrim is not a jrpg and its a shit game anyway lol

          • Hector Velar

            dude get back in the closet.

          • HarakiriKami

            Try me. Skyrim has shit combat and shit world design.

            Anyone who plays unmodded skyrim is a plebian.

    • Wiccan1109

      – Doesn’t matter if its in a car or on foot, they’ll still be travelling the world which is something done in every installment. Cut scenes taking place in a car instead of an airship is different, we had highwind, ragnarok, invincible etc, im all for changes now. It’s still gonna have a plot outside of the car. xD

      – Well FFX-2 went out with all girls and a pop music, clothes changing, all singing, all dancing experience and it didn’t do too bad for itself. A lot of people i know consider it their favourite. Every installment will have different things, theres no universal best or worst. Some will love it, some wont, i’ve never known FF to be an exception to that. To be fair, men are dying out in JRPGs and theres quite a few these days that feature no men at all. The ones that do often only have 1 or 2 and they’re usually androgynous. This is actually a really bold move for this genre considering its one that tends to sell games based on girls, dating and boobs. I can’t defend something that isn’t out but im always willing to give a bold move a chance and maybe not judge the entire party just for being male.

      • Juede

        Well said my friend! :D

    • Kalis Konig

      Look how many JRPG’s force an all or majority female cast. At least this games tone makes sense for it to be a male group. If that is one of your reasons to pass this up than that is just silly.

      • Misty Dawson

        I don’t understand. Girls can’t go on road trips?

        • 古戸ヱリカ

          Women in cars is mighty bad luck, says the old pirate code.

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        It’s not just the Backstreet Boys playable cast that’s the problem. I also heavily dislike the over emphasise put on the car and driving, and the fact the battle system is heavily focused on Auto-Attack and Auto-Dodge.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      What kind of music was played in the new trailer?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_C_8F1usDo

      Didn’t sound like Backstreet Boys to me.

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        That’s background music. It has nothing to do with how the cast actually looks and interact with each other.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          It’s too catchy to be ambient. Music can define the tone of the game like how X-2 is filled with J-pop nonsense.

    • Wappuli

      Just because you have an option for auto-attack and auto-dodge doesn’t automatically make it FULLY automated combat.
      I’m pretty sure that relying on those functions wont be the best way to get through battles. Just look at FF13, it has an option for auto-battle that picks commands for you, and mashing it will be enough to clear most of the battles with 5-star rating throughout the game.
      But is that the most efficient way to battle? Not at all.
      And I don’t think many would find that type of playing all that fun either.

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        If you haven’t heard, the Auto-Attack and Auto-Dodge buttons of FFXV are mandatory. They can’t be disabled like in FFXIII.

        • Wappuli

          Nope, haven’t heard of that, and a quick googling didn’t give me any source for it either.
          Auto-battle in FF13 can’t be disabled, you can just make it so that it isn’t first thing you cursors points at. And even if it was were possible to disable, that wouldn’t refute the point I was trying to make in my previous message.

          Also, calling them auto-attack and auto-dodge “buttons” is kinda misleading, since they don’t have their own specific buttons, instead you just hold down regular attack and dodge buttons: Which from what I have read, is the same as it is in Type-0 too.

  • Go2hell66

    inb4randomhitchhikers

    • E.T.993

      Inb4randomhitchhickersthatlooksexactlylikeeachotherbecause crappySquareEnixCharacterDesign.

  • Prinnydoom

    Ok I made a joke about FF road trip in another article but now I am a little concerned. Still, I am sure that won’t devalue the rest of the game and hey having an all male party is something thats never happened before in FF be good to see some diversity but hey as long as it delivers I’ve got nothing to complain about.

    Come on square don’t let us down now.

    • Shippoyasha

      FF1 was an all male cast, basically.

      • Prinnydoom

        Really? I often thought of the white mage as female.

        • Shippoyasha

          It was designed as a male though some fans interpreted the class as a female class. FF1 on the PSP showed white mage as female though.

          • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

            I wonder if it’s cause the sprite looked more feminine with its color scheme (though it just looks like the red fighter class with a white blanket on) or some sort of sociological bias people have attributing a weaker, healing class to being a female role? That would make an interesting research study.

          • Shippoyasha

            It’s simply that the White Mage did look somewhat feminine and was wearing a full robe. I think it was more because of that. Even in the early RPG days, there were female warriors (and stuff like Dungeon and Dragons lore was big in Japan even a decade before FF1) so I don’t think that was the preconceived perception.

            Either way, it was still a male healer. It’s all the public confusion about it that they made the White Mage into a female design later on. They also showed off the White Mage as a distinct feminine look in FFT, where the male White Mage didn’t put on the hood while the female design did.

          • HarakiriKami

            I never thought the white mage was a girl.

            Looks more like a gingerbread boy

  • lolcatz6657

    Well that’s very disappointing.

  • Raze

    Rad Bromance the Movie

  • Hagaren

    Well then it better have all the road trip movie shenanigans!

    • AndyLC

      >>Gilgamesh as a hitchhiker

      • Prinnydoom

        Literally,would love to see that.

      • Syn

        hahahaha!!!!! i that would be epic

      • HentaRobot

        Gilgamesh: Thanks for the ride guys! I really appreciate it!
        Noctis: No problem. Have a safe journey!
        *Gilgamesh leaves*
        Prompto: Uhhh guys, our weapons are gone…

        • AndyLC

          dudewheresmysword.jpg

    • SupaPhly

      Lightning cameo appearance
      (just kidding please don’t kill me)

      • Guest

        That would be hilarious. especially if the group just rides past him because he is a creep. Gilgamesh then goes on a hunt for them for not doing him a solid lol.

    • Rohan Viajar

      “Guys….”
      *ROAR* (in the background)
      “I think I woke up a leviathan.”

      “How’d you do that?”

      “By takin a piss on him while he slept”

      >_>….

  • JeremyTMH

    It might not be all bad, still I’d avoid this like the plague.

    • Hector Velar

      Brilliant! /applaud

  • Hector Velar

    so for those who argued with me about this title a few months back… Is it still a Final Fantasy game?…

    • Shippoyasha

      The combat showed a benemoth and dragons. So yeah. Very much so.

    • Juede

      For me yes :) It still is

    • Syn

      Amazing graphics, crazy haired protag, bahemoths, goblins, Adamantoise, magic, and a combat system not limit by the systems……….. Yep looks alot like a bonafide numbered FF to me………….and ave played them all.

    • Tarkovsky

      Depends on what your definition of a FF game is. From what I’ve seen so far, it’s an FF to me.

    • Herok♞

      Square could make Barbie Chocobo adventures and it would still be a FF game if they wanted it to be, there are no things that go hey if you have this it is or isn’t an FF game

      • Hector Velar

        I think we can all agree that a Barbie Chocobo game sounds like a much better idea than this.

  • Juede

    I don’t know why some people are complaining about there being only guys in a party, for me I think it is much more awesome and realistic because well frankly in the real world we tend to hang around with mostly our gender group be it male or female and we are more comfortable hanging around with them and we are more ourselves if we hang out with them. So I see no problem with this as a matter of fact I am more interested to see what they do with this kind of relationships. Nuff said :)

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      lol, people usually complains about this and that because it is not believable and unrealistic, even for “fantasy”. Now when we got more realistic elements, people complains it is not fantasy

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    hurrr hurrr everyone complaining about no female.
    And here i am just enjoying story as long as it is good, no matter what the gender.
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1372/5182705574_253ffb3d07.jpg

    • Juede

      yeah man! haha.. nice example :D I believe some people just hate for the sake of hating :(

      For me as of right now this game is my most anticipated game to date (been waiting since ’06) XD

    • Elbender

      You can’t compare the badassness of Kazuma and the others to those 4 idiots from FFXV

      • Tarkovsky

        Only advice I can give you is to never judge a book by it’s cover.

        • Elbender

          Im not judging by the cover, I’m judging from a trailer that is made specifically for that purpose

          • Tarkovsky

            “You can’t compare the badassness of Kazuma and the others to those 4 idiots from FFXV”

            If that isn’t judging, I don’t know what is.

          • Elbender

            Did you even read? I said “I’m not judging by the cover, I’m judging from a trailer”, seriously dude read first then reply

          • Herok♞

            The point is the trailer isnt even much to go by at this point we have a grand total of 7 minutes of footage overall for the game and you are trying to compare that to a full game. Hense judging the book by its cover

      • Derek E Nay

        I wouldn’t call them idiots just yet. We barely know them. Wait till you experience them in the full game to get a feel.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        We don’t even the intelligence of those guys yet. I hope Noctis banters and manipulates other with wit.

        • Elbender

          From what I can see, they all have a standard stereotypical anime personality, that’s why I already hate the blonde guy, He’s gonna be the “Dumb guy who thinks he’s funny and cool but it’s just annoying”

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            He reminds me more of Zelos from Symphonia. Prompto will probably date hundreds of women, charm them and will be seen again with loads of lipstick kisses on his face.

          • HarakiriKami

            …. No you’re just projecting Natsu onto the guy because that’s his VA who also voices that guy from Free.

            Prompto actually looks cool though. He fixes the broken car lol

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      When Sega said the new Yakuza was gonna be all-man, I assumed it be called “Ryu Ga Gotoku Bara!”

  • Blesmi

    SAUSAGEFEST 2015 HERE WE COME BABY! We got all kinds of sausage, emosage, bottomsage, bearsage, even yuppysage!

    • Hold on to your butts.

      • 古戸ヱリカ

        Dinosaurs eat male leads, female leads inherit the game.

    • HarakiriKami

      2016

  • Sion12

    “At the moment, it feels like it’s at around 50 – 55%”

    fuck this shit see you in hell! *jump out of window

    well hopefully it will release in 2016 then

    • Syn

      lol, ur profile pic sums up your comment so well hahahahahaha

    • Juede

      :/ hope not! Maybe around Fall 2015 :D

    • Lan

      Technically that’s after two years of work. They mostly scrapped everything before then and built up stuff.

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    Jeez. Why can’t people accept Fantasy doesn’t always imply a medieval
    setting with castles and princesses? So tired of these “This game sucks
    cause modern and I didn’t even tried it yet”. Ughhh.

    • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

      Well, the majority of the Final Fantasy games, especially the early ones, had more traditional fantasy settings. The games have slowly incorporated more and more technology, more sci-fi elements in them. I dunno, there’s something that just sorta feels different having a metal airship versus a wooden one. There’s something to be said about aesthetics when trying to create a fantasy setting and putting a modern looking car like this coming game, for example, kinda breaks that wall of disbelief a little? If that makes any sense.

      • Shippoyasha

        I think a lot of FF fans have fallen in love with the light steam/magic punk styling though. I absolutely loved FF8’s design for example. Just a really nice mix of modern fashion, old fashioned machinery and magic.

      • Soran Kimihiro

        There were already changes in FF6,just look at the intro and you will get it,it is reminiscent of industrial revolution .In FF7 you had cloud on a bike,if that isn’t modern,then I don’t know what is,and lets not forget FF8,in which at the beginning of the game you could also travel by car,you had airship that could go to space,and the school(garden) could float. It was only with FF9 that the series went back to medieval style,but with still sci-fi elements like the origin of Zidane.
        FF had many modern elements in them and will still do,fantasy doesn’t mean medieval settings but is a situation imagined by an individual that expresses certain desires or aims on the part of its creator. Fantasies sometimes involve situations that are highly unlikely; or they may be quite realistic(Quote from wikipedia)

        • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

          Of course just about ever Final Fantasy had some modern or futuristic type technology in it. It’s when they become over abundant when you lose the “fantasy” setting aesthetic that people expected up until FF6. Sure FF6 had a lot of technology in it, but like you said it was industrial area technology which has a fantasy aesthetic to is. In fact, a whole sub genre of fantasy is dedicated to that sort of aesthetic as “steam punk”. You could say FF6 had early steam punk qualities in its design. Now FF7 onwards (save for FF9) leaned more towards a scifi aesthetic. Now what distinguishes fantasy and scifi, to the average individual, is the presence of advanced-modern to futuristic technology or not. The thing is with a series, such as Final Fantasy, most people desire some sort of consistency that ties them together. Especially a series like Final Fantasy that has a Twilight Zone style to it in that it has different characters and story each time, but should keep something else consistent. For Twilight Zone the consistency was in the story structure and it’s “creepy” themes, so lack of a better description. What do you have in Final Fantasy? For a while there it was similar story structure and fantasy setting and similar battle system aka gameplay. But look at the series as a whole, it’s changed drastically! It’s hard to say what really connects the games other than the inclusion of things like Chocobos and certain items and a Cid somewhere, but those are really minuscule things to be an overarching connection for a series. No, I theorize the reason people are more upset about the lack of a traditional fantasy aesthetic in the more recent Final Fantasy games isn’t just cause it’s called Final Fantasy so it should “just be” or what have you and more cause I mean what else makes it a Final Fantasy title if not that? You could call it anything, really, imagine each Final Fantasy had a separate, unrealted title. You’d never link it to the other Final Fantasy’s other than seeing a Chocobo or Moogle here and there but in that context you could chalk it up to like a Squareenix mascot they put in games. The more scifi-like aesthetics aren’t themselves a bad thing by any means, they don’t detract or add to the game as a whole, it’s just the inconsistency I think alienates some people. But, you know, just my thoughts on the matter.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        Can we just not accept Final Fantasy as being convoluted because it’s not simple anymore. Besides, I never knew about the series ’til VII. See, I live in Ireland and spend my time watching Power Rangers while you yanks were playing FF3/FF6 on SNES.

    • bob

      “A fantasy game based on reality” has been the theme since day 1!

    • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

      Their nostglic and can’t accept anything but the boxed spirites and light fantasy story telling that feels no different from your standard anime like fairy tail.

      ITS ABOUT TIME WE GET SOMETHING DARKER YET MORE DOWN TO EARTH FUNNIER AND SOPHISTICATED. ITS TIME TO MAKE A MATURE FF

      • Espoir

        FF has always been mature. If blood and gore and ‘darker’ themes implement a mature game, then I believe you’re mistaken.

        I don’t know what you mean by ‘funnier and sophisticated’, but I’ve laughed countless times to an assortment of final fantasy characters/moments and not to mention the class each story brings to us.

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    Final Fantasy XV = Grand Kingdom May Theft: Auto-Hearts DevilGod of Warcry: final Road trip boyband mix edition

    • James Enk

      it seems like you put a lot of effort in this, good job man xD

  • D-Omen

    Will need tons of bromance and maybe one actual instance of gay romance? They’ll never be so bold to pull that off though.

  • Espoir

    Male only group?

    Hard pass.

  • Xion

    this could make a great hit among fujoshi.. yaoi fandom XD

    • AndyLC

      Remember in the trailer one of them says “Man I need a bath”

      … bath scene GUARANTEED

  • Soran Kimihiro

    OMG we’re gonna die from having only male cast. Come on it is a game,and if I remember correctly it was already intended to be different from other FF entries and lets not forget the characters are akin to yakuza style, of deep relationship and mutual trust between men. So deal with it and lets hope we can enjoy a good game.

    • Misty Dawson

      The argument of “it’s a game” is a silly notion to have on a gaming website imo..

  • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

    I fully expect this game to score in the 70’s range on Metacritic. What an incoming disaster after a decade long development time.

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      wow. If having no/few females is that much of disaster, then 90% of games and other medias in this world are failure.

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        Not just the lack of females, but also the awful sounding battle system and high focus on driving a car around a barren world like I’m playing Need for Speed: Rivals or something.

        • Yuki97

          Then youre a fool.

          • HarakiriKami

            I know right? the battle system is looking good
            /s

          • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

            Don’t hate just because I’m being real and honest. The only amazing thing about FFXV is the graphics. The playable Backstreet Boys cast and automated battle system are both garbage.

          • Yuki97

            Still dosent change the fact that youre a fool. Fool.

        • Rayhan PromisedGallery

          yeah, that’s why Kingdom Hearts and Shadow of the Colossus are failure

          • Shadow Rebirth

            lol

          • FF is neither KH or SotC.

          • Rayhan PromisedGallery

            judging metacritic score is more like judging game as a whole and how fun/good it is, not as “FF game”.

            The combat is similar to KH, and KH certainly isn’t awful or failure to this world as a whole
            Driving in barren world is like SoTC and it isn’t awful. The barren world is how the atmosphere intended to be.

          • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

            You never drove around in a car with three other people that were constantly talking to you in Shadow of the Colossus. The game was focused on Wander being alone in a desolate location.

            Also, the battle system in FFXV is nothing like KH. If you’re you’re not aware, Tabata’s changed it from Nomura’s original vision and made it fully automated with Auto-Attack and Auto-Dodge dedicated buttons.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          Go back and play X-2.

          • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

            That wasn’t a mainline FF, though.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            That doesn’t matter. It was a full 3D console release that got plenty of attention back over 10 years ago.

      • In what way does that related to his or her comment?

        • Rayhan PromisedGallery

          see her other comments below in this page and how lack of females disappointed her and how she thinks that “lolololol many girls already hated this game because of no females loolz”

          • I see, that does sound ridiculous. Tired of that old argument about girls being “hated”

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      What about Team Fortress 2?

      That depends on how honest Square-Enix will be honest with us.

      What if the story, characters and gameplay ends up being good?

      Are you saying a hypothetical Half-Life 3 is gonna suck, no matter what?

      • Hiroyuki_Ito_XVI

        I’m saying that what we’ve recently been told about the gameplay is not looking good. The gameplay and battle system is a major downgrade from what were promised by Tetsuya Nomura as far back as 2008, when it was still VersusXIII and a PS2 game.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          A PS2 game?

          To me, the gameplay still looks good. The framerate looks better than last year’s trailer.

          This time, it could be actual gameplay and not some vertical slice like with FFXIII, Colonial Marines or Watch Dogs.

  • vileBrenman

    Airships, Chocobos, and automobiles.

  • I’m sure Lightning will show up anyway. Nowadays, it just wouldn’t be a Square game without her ;)

    She doesn’t even need to know why she’s there – just like when she popped into Eorzea:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScwhyd12Xg

  • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

    That’s disappointing that you can’t play as a female character. But, to be fair, you don’t really PLAY as anybody so much as set a few parameters for your characters to play automatically in the latest FF’s.

    (I haven’t played one since FF12 where you didn’t really PLAY anything and from footage of FF13 I assumed they went a similar route)

    Maybe the female characters that are in the story will be well developed instead?

    • Shippoyasha

      Noctis, the protagonist’s antagonist/rival is Stella. So of course she will have to be fleshed out as a character.

  • vileBrenman

    In all honesty. I think this game looks rad. Having an all male party doesn’t bother me. In fact i think it’s about time we get a jrpg that focuses on male camaraderie.

  • Zen Grenadier

    Well that’s interesting. Here’s hoping for a journey of self discovery with a good mix of comedy if they’re going for the road trip genre.

    Or they could go off on a tangent and make a Road to Morocco knock off with a sing and dance routine at the end.

  • Hagaren
  • Kalis Konig

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with an all male group and if you think so dismiss yourself. Honestly throwing a female into the road trip would really ruin the tone going by what we have seen.

    • Misty Dawson

      How so?

    • would it? is it impossible to have a group of friends that is predominantly male with one female mixed in?

  • James Enk

    not sure i like what i am reading here…

  • SpardaCastle

    I’ll love to have one sidequest where the party woke up to find one of them missing and they have to retrace their steps to find him.
    Just like in the Hangover movie.

  • DudeJericho

    I don’t care about the all male thing, but it depends on how they go about it. One thing I could have done without is the Japanese boyband designs…

    • landlock

      It wouldn’t be the first time I mean Cloud and Squall really fit that category,

      • DudeJericho

        Not really, at least not in the original games they showed up in, Cloud changed quite a bit though as they went for a more “realistic” look, but before he was this cyber-punky dude.

        • Misty Dawson

          Yeah. Advent Children is where they really hit him with the boy band stick

          • DudeJericho

            Oh yeah definitely.

        • landlock

          Well your entitled to your opinion.

          • DudeJericho

            That I am.

  • Kornelious

    ……Unhuh……I do love road trips and all, but this seems kinda weird…..I guess “Road-Trip” is just a more modern word for Adventure, so I guess it fits……

    What me is that the party will not have any females……That sucks :( I REALLY wanted to see what the female members could pull of in this game (Plus they’re much prettier to look at, lol <3) But I guess this is a bit of a different FF than most…..Though i wonder if there will be MORE than just your four party members available -_-…………

    It still looks great though, just a few new things to think about, So keep at it! :)

    • Guest

      FFX2 was all female so wat

      • Kornelious

        …I never complain when there are too many females in a game :P

        I just think a bit of variety, over archetypes (If that makes sense) would be nice…..

      • Misty Dawson

        Spin off. Irrelevant. Like saying lightning returns is all female.

  • rinalicat

    An all guys road trip RPG? Sounds like fun and a rather pleasant change!

  • Namuro

    Throw in a serial killer, and we have a slasher flick! LOL

    I’m loving it so far, anyway. This is probably the first Final Fantasy game that really gives me the sense of “adventure” from looking at the trailers. With its (hopefully) wide and opened world, where you cruise around with your close friends for who-know-what purpose. It makes me want to “explore” the world.

    I also hope they put a lot of focus on the relationship and interactivity between the party members.

    • leadintea

      I’ve pretty much disliked everything I’ve seen about FFXV, but I have to agree with you about the adventurous feelings it’s giving off.

  • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

    For those who don’t know what road movie is, it’s a genre of film.

    In this genre of film, protagonists hike from A to Z. In-between the two, they stop off at B, C, D, E, and you get my point. At each letter something important happens. These things teach each hero something they didn’t know about themself. Since Final Fantasy XV is about bringing back a crystal to its rightful place the stops must be brief, being less about input location and more about how it relates to the larger crystal story. Road movies are called road movies because they tend to use a lot of a vehicles. Nomura already said his game has a usable car years ago. The vastness of the road in a road movie is VAST. The big event is surviving against Niflihuiem, not all the tiny sub plots of each location that create the larger story (I’m looking at you Star Ocean 4, opposite of road movie). Nomura stated Final Fantasy XV’s story is indeed using a road tripe formula. Taba enforced his statement. The live ftoogae proved it.

    • HarakiriKami

      Lord of the Rings basically

  • Freya2012

    Yaoi fans r going to have a field day with this!

  • Kuromadou

    *waiting for some news about people make some petitions*

  • makubexnas

    http://www.hunterknightonline.com/images/bgmain.jpg

    this game will be the Jrpg version of Sexdrive movie but with out the sex ( maybe…) and plus a big ass monster.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Sexdrive looks like crap. Needs more Nicolas Cage to entertain us, the viewers like when he punches a woman and stole her bike while he wore a bear-suit.

  • Codi Schumacher

    Sorry but as a fan who has played since the start in the original FF I have to say I’m not impressed.

    • HarakiriKami

      Nobody cares

  • Grumpy Drizzle

    Aren’t they little tired of making games about pushing a group of metrosexual clones down the corridor? I believe it’s about time to try out a different setting and different art style. That’s what the series did back when it was good.

  • Nathan Stiles

    ‘The game is about 50% done…If the demo isn’t well recieved we will
    have to rethink things” Are you fucking kidding me? REALLY!? really!? MY
    GOD GUYS WHAT THE HELL. Not to mention the wait aside, is this game
    looking more and more disapointing with each trailer to everyone else?
    Apparently this guy is a prince? The gameplay (though hard to judge from
    videos) looks to have no more depth than Drakengard 3, the characters
    look even more generic than usual and sports cars because why not…
    Have they even thought things through or are they just throwing crap at
    the screen? … I’ve been a square fan for a very long time but.. I’m
    ready for the funeral now, I’ve held onto guilt and hope for a long time
    but if FFXV ends up being as bad as it looks I will be happy to see
    them put out of their misery. Too me they are like an old dying dog at
    this point that the family refuses to let go, please just end their
    suffering and our own, they are going to die eventually, and seeing them
    suffer is is harmful to us as well.

    • Codi Schumacher

      I think the FF saga will best live on in Bravely Default and Bravely Second from what I have seen so far.

    • Shippoyasha

      Wow. Overdramatic much with that analogy?

      The game is fine. It looks more solid than just featuring an aerial hack and slash action like they did a few years ago, which may not be very feasible + it’ll be a QTE festival if they did. And I doubt they just threw ideas into the game willy nilly when the game was in planning stages for so long.

      • Nathan Stiles

        Not at all overdramatic, the last 3 Final Fantasy games were terrible (XIII Trilogy), FInal Fantasy Type-0 was better but suffered from far too many flaws to be on par with the rest of the series. and this one isn’t looking to be much better, in fact the combat looks watered down when compared to Type-0 which is frankly a bit pathetic considering it was already ripped directly from the 3rd Birthday. add that all up and it’s been about 10 years of mediocrity in this series alone, let alone their other affairs. They might as well rebrand themselves as Eidosoft at this point, it’s not the first time Square has had to have their ass pulled out of the fire, and I doubt they will get that lucky twice.

        • Shippoyasha

          FF13 was alright. The second and third games really picked it up with the gameplay fidelity (not that the first game was bad either) though I can understand why people dislike the storytelling in it.

          I don’t think the company is in such dire straits personally. Though they can use some mega hits to become superstars again and well, this game looks like it’s having a lot of bold ideas that could be really good if pulled off right, mainly the exploration/roadtrip part. I think the live action combat has been a long time coming in FF series though. They’ve been building towards that ever since FF12.

          Also, they did confirm that the combat can be strategic as the user wants it to be upon pausing.

          • 3PointDecoupage

            Sounds like Dragon Age.

          • Nathan Stiles

            I disagree that they have been moving towards real time combat since 12… I just think it’s what they are resorting too because it’s all the remaining note worthy staff member they have knows how to make (Tetsuya Nomura). Despite everyone’s griping, Final Fantasy XII plays EXACTLY like the other games in the series did (concerning combat) except that the battles didn’t change to a different map. You could set gambits too make things more streamlined, but the ability to fight like in every other game was still not only present but completely valid, I’ve done it. FFXIII wasn’t moving towards active battling either, it was moving towards simplicity though (and I truly struggled finding a word there that didn’t come off as demeaning or insulting). If this game were made by someone other than Square and wasn’t a Final Fantasy game I’d probably be more okay with it.. but meh. I defended this game for a long time, I am not anti-real time combat but when you change to much in a series title.. it ceases to keep the spirit of the series it claims to be a part of.

          • Shippoyasha

            Well, they have been moving towards something resembling real time combat I mean. Though FF13 series actually did kind of go back to an oldschool sensibility in some aspects. FF11, 12 and 14 were all plays at trying to make a seamless world with combat.

            And again, the interviews did mention that the strategic element is still there upon pause. So I’ll have to take them on their word for it for now.

        • Hector Velar

          Fans are going to defend, even if it is in the shape of a cucumber to shove up their rectum, they are still going to like it and support it, they are so blindsided. I lost hope on the series way back, so I agree with you. I still play Final fantasy 6 and tactics over over(yes to this day!), but they are not going to ever be that good as the company keeps shifting the series. Also the new generation who picked up on ps2/ps3 have no idea what the Real Final Fantasy games are like, can’t blame them.

          • Shippoyasha

            Having some hope for the franchise isn’t the same thing as defending them for defending them’s sakes. Come now.

          • Hector Velar

            …oh my, you are a very defensive person aren’t you? ;)

  • Kuromadou

    which reminds me, the FIRST Final Fantasy features all male characters, even the white mage/wizard ones.

  • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY

    so what about the bad guy? Idola. LETS TALK ABOUT HIM

    • HarakiriKami

      Stella’s sugar daddy?

  • PowerSerg

    All male party, that lost my sale real easy. I mean I guess they couldn’t make female characters without having to invest in a giggle engine after lighting returns.

    • Shippoyasha

      Still onto the “Jiggle gate”? It’s a ridiculous thing to cling to. The director just answered frankly that the physics as a whole was getting better and people latched onto one it like it was a negative.

      • British_Otaku

        “Jigglegate”… That was a thing? I’m at work, so I’ll search that up later.

      • PowerSerg

        Oh like saying “Oh get maxium giggle by going in and out of the start menu.” He said that. That was a thing he said. You can’t defend that a perverted factor was brought into it. People love to ignore what companies they love do but love to bring up shit companies they don’t do. I love lots of squares games but they can’t be excused for their actions.

        • Shippoyasha

          They were just having fun at a relaxed and low key press conference. People just need to stop crucifying for them making a little joke. None of that had any impact to the game itself.

          • PowerSerg

            Yah the game it’s self was really bad in every aspect not just the perversion. I like how you would rather excuse a company then actual other gamers. Fun fact other gamers have a chance at caring about you but Square will never care about any of us as individuals.

          • Shippoyasha

            The game series is really not as bad as it’s made out to be. It has its faults but it has its bright spots as well. I really loved the gameplay especially for tougher fights especially in the last two FF13 games. I’m not saying you have to love it. I’m just saying a case can be made for it as well. And I think they learned a lot of things in the making of this game and they can improve for later.

          • PowerSerg

            I really didn’t enjoy the plot or gameplay on ether and I actually didn’t hate the first 13. That is personal stuff but that was when square started really screwing up for me. 13-2 had that sweet sweet on disc dlc and honestly since then I haven’t trusted them. I borrow these titles from people because I refuse to buy games with on disc dlc.

  • Yuki97

    let the stupid comments roll in. This is fun

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    seeing that this game will be all male. I hope the final battle will be like this, but with J-pop song
    http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131226054536/drakengard/images/7/76/DD3_Intoners7.png

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      First, I freakin’ love Drakengard 3. If Zero was in X-2 or XIII, she would slaughter everyone and offer some actual comedy, the kind that makes me laugh, not the kind that makes me cringe. I’m looking at you, Vanille.

      A J-pop song boss finale? In XV? Have you not heard the music or looked at the settings in all the trailers?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_C_8F1usDo

      Feels more like we’re gonna see a masquerade than some pop concert. Imagine Noctis and Stella doing a waltz while wearing fancy masks.

      I’m expecting a more mature or at least a sense of dry wit with a sense of believability. Stuff like Suikoden, Game of Thrones, Hamlet, etc. It can’t be moody if Noctis is as hammy of Kenneth Branagh’s Hamlet.

      In terms of comedy, I hope for Noctis to be like Rowan Atkinson as Blackadder, not Adam Sandler with his toilet humor and sex jokes.

      • Rayhan PromisedGallery

        i’m just making a joke about how this game is basically reverse of Drakengard 3 in gender ratio of playable character lolz. Why not make the final battle also similar

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          Belts, zippers and hair… As you whipper-snappers put it, “LOL”.

  • aizen310

    Road trip?
    So it will be as linear as FF13 but without “walls” so it doesn’t feel like a corridor? Figures, we had a walking simulator, now we have a real driving simulator… Final Turismo.

    • HarakiriKami

      Err More like GTA. Linear story line, open world game where you can go off instead of advancing the story.

  • 3PointDecoupage

    After all the harem JRPGs that come out, I don’t mind a sausage fest for once.

    • Land of Green Pasture

      I’d call it BROrgy

    • Postnjam

      As long as the men are hot as fuck and are there are two guys who totally aren’t homosexual with each other but totally are but try to hid it.God, I’ve been watching too much Swimming anime.

    • MrTyrant

      A lot of Yuri or Yaoi pandering is not sane neither

  • Tarkovsky

    Question to people complaining about the all male cast. Ask yourself this question. Are there any games in your collection(digital or physical) that feature only playable male protagonists? If so, you should be very very ashamed of yourselves. No amount of arguing will prevent you from looking like a huge hypocrite.

    • Misty Dawson

      And? It’s a Final Fantasy game and we haven’t had an all male cast since the FIRST game. That’s right, the first. And while I’ve played games with male protagonists, I do prefer to play as a female character. I associate with them better and Final Fantasy has always done a good job of that to me.. heck, SE in general. So yeah, I’m going to complain about it and, given the circumstances, you shouldn’t feel bad for having an opinion or make someone feel bad for theirs.

      • Rayhan PromisedGallery

        “the first game had all male cast”
        that means that “all-male” cast doesn’t betray the series

        • Misty Dawson

          I didn’t say it betrayed the series. It just seemed like they moved away from that until this one now. Just sad about the decision.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        What about the White Mage?

        • Misty Dawson

          Always named WHM after myself but the Warriors of Light were male. I thought it was interesting that the white mage was female in Mario 3v3 Hoops. If they actually stated that he is in fact female, then never mind.

          • Shippoyasha

            Female White Mage is revisionism. The original warriors were male.

          • Misty Dawson

            Thought so

      • Shippoyasha

        I can respect it, though to be fair, FF characters all ooze with personality. I think they have something to prove with this game story-telling wise and one of the crucial characters will still be a girl it looks like. Potential for a Romeo & Juliet story with the main characters.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          Or Hamlet. The quote in the first trailer came from Hamlet, so imagine Noctis would sooner organise a play to provoke his uncle and mistrust some of his friends than sneak out to see Stella.

          Gametrailers assume Stella will be like Ophelia, thus, Stella will likely end up insane by the end of the game.

          • Misty Dawson

            Well that’s disheartening.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            Not if Noctis puts the HAM in Hamlet. What also be great is if Ifrit had a beard made of fire was voiced by BRIAN BLESSED.

          • Misty Dawson

            Lol what? That was an unexpected response! But what if all summons are… dare I say it.. different kinds of cars in this one?

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            Did Leviathan looks like car at last year’s E3?

          • Misty Dawson

            I dunno, I don’t remember anything about it

          • HarakiriKami

            Eh? Did they do a video on FF15? Where? Link me please I want to watch.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt
        • Misty Dawson

          Here’s to hoping. Currently reminded of Dave Chapelle’s “Dudes Night Out” sketch when I see them in that car…

      • Solid Knight #SouledOut

        Let me go cry about how X-2 only had 3 playable female characters. No wait… I didn’t care.

        • TBF people were complaining about that back then, so yeah…

    • KanjiLikesBoys

      We would only be hypocrites if we said we “refused to buy unless they added a femal charcter”
      there is a difference between a complaint about one facet of a game and tempting to dump it all together
      and remember, we were complaining about this since we saw that first trailer

  • Sometimes I get the feeling that people and I aren’t looking at the same thing. The TGS trailer for the game looked amazing and fun. No there aren’t any female party members in this one, but with the vibe if gave off it kinda seems okay. At least there are female main characters in the game though lol. After the demo comes out we’ll see for sure weather or not this kind of plot is able to house a lady along for the ride lol

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      I know, right? There are plenty of over-used tropes in many games like dull worlds with no colour, which is fine if you’re invoking it in the narrative to show what the world is like, not so much for played-straight actions games with no sense of awareness.

      Same can be said with an all-male party. Remember Kingdom Hearts. Sora, Goofy and Donald were all dudes. Let’s not forget that X-2 had no playable male characters in the story. I hope XV will be the opposite, not with gender issues, but in tone, narrative and music. X-2 is a valley girl while XV is a gentleman. Books, wine and classical music and not thong bikinis, cheeseburgers or pop songs. Oxford, not California.

      • Yeah, I hope that others can come to appreciate what he’s trying to do with this one. It looks really good so far. I’m happy to see that each FF is looking better and better, and are different from their predecessors.

        Although I would definitely love to see more of Fran from FFXII in a future FF game or maybe a XII-2 lol =P (Random side thought lol)

  • Derek E Nay

    So, it’s going to be like FF13 as in linear lol. Ah its ok. I knew I wasn’t going to play the game anyway. I do love the graphics; but I feel like that will be the only thing I like about it…. I miss the old FF games; but I understand the need to evolve. I just hope it evolves in to something people like.

    • Detrimont

      old FF games only gave the illusion of non-linearity

      • Derek E Nay

        I am aware. But at least the game’s had interesting backstorys told right. FF13 had no real backstory other then reading the crystals. And to go back to what I meant by interesting; FF6 had some fun story telling of the NPCs (like the npcs that took care of Terra). I enjoyed the backstorys and learning about the world. So I agree with you. But, I meant to say that it sounds like the story will bore me.

        I meant by old FF games was the gameplay. I know it’s stupid, but I enjoy the Turn-based/RTB battle systems. I just don’t have much hope for SE anymore.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          I’m asking people for a good while and never get a response. Please hear me out.

          Let’s pretend this is 2009 again and we’re waiting for XIII to come out… How much did we know about the story, characters and gameplay until we got our hands on it.

          What did we know? Were we lied to? Did Square-Enix PR doing their best not to answer us?

          You know what else was like that? Gearbox when it came to Aliens: Colonial Marines.

          How much did we know about XIII and Versus XIII in terms of story?

          Versus XIII: Someone who’s last in line to a throne must defend the last crystal (which is basically fuel, electricity, etc.) against marauders.

          XIII: A bunch of people they’re branded as l’Cie and nothing else.

          • Derek E Nay

            I don’t really know what you are asking. If they are lying to us about the game? The market will always try to push as much as they can. I don’t think anything can really top Colonial Marines. Besides, I am not saying that SQ is lying to us. I just don’t find what they are doing that interesting. It’s nice to look at I can give it that. But story wise, I don’t really want to play a road trip game. And the gameplay looks like something I am not interested in. But that’s just me.

            I am not bashing this game, or trying not to. All that I am trying to say is that I am not excited for 15.

            All I can do is hope people can enjoy this game. And if I hear good things I might try it out. But I am not going to pay 60 bucks day one.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            Fine but at least tell me how much you knew about XIII before it was released.

        • Detrimont

          tbf on Xiii, talking to NPC’s too learn world backstory doesn’t make sense in Xiii’s story, seeing as everyone is afraid of the cast

          • Derek E Nay

            I’m aware :P. I know story wise it makes sense. Doesn’t make it better for me. And just because I don’t care doesn’t mean others shouldn’t care if they liked it.

            Sorry if it sounds like I am just bashing FF13. Not trying to lol. Just spouting my opinions.

          • Detrimont

            you’re not.
            just saying that it makes sense in the style of the story

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        IIIILLLLLUUUUUUUUSSSSSSIIIIOOOOONNNNNN. (Now I’m making ghost noises while wiggling my fingers at you.) I’m gonna put a spell on you.

        Isn’t illusions usually a bad way and invoked to be antagonistic? That just means developers are lying to you about what of game you’re playing. That means XIII was at least honest with itself.

      • aizen310

        That is BS. Old Final Fantasies gave you much freedom after you aquired an airship. There were a lot of optional dungeons and towns even in the SNES games. JRPGS MIGHT just tend to be more linear than WRPGs since there aren’t a plethora of trivial side-quests in them, but saying that JRPGs are linear is stupid.

        • Noor Mahmoud

          Umm, no. You typically had to unlock places of interest by advancing the story. Otherwise you just had a wide open and boring overworld.

          • aizen310

            Umm, no. Ever played Final Fantasy 6? The cave of Phoenix? The village where Relm and Strago appeared? Shadow’s whole existence in that game is a side-quest. Hunting for the eight dragons? Recruiting your old party members? The Tower of Magi? Yeah, linearity. Do keep lying to yourself lad.
            Also:
            “boring overworld”

            I swear, gamers these days makes me very sad. All about hyperactivity and supercool action :/

        • HarakiriKami

          You do know narratives dont HAVE To be linear.

          It doesnt have to play out like a boring linear style GAT esque movie either lol.

          Either take a page from Metroid. hell even SMT games implement non linear narratives.

          If you want to make a game that has a linear main plot, but doesnt have linear world, You can look at Xenoblade with its freedom of exploration and its affinity/collectapedia system and how it handles NPCs and the everchanging roles of those npcs

        • Detrimont

          yeah, but how far into each game was it before you even got the airships…

          • aizen310

            JRPGs are more driven by its story. Of course you need to follow the story to a point where you gain access to the world. Feels more immersive then your typical WRPG, where when you are done with the tutorial dungeon, everything is available from the start. I like it, when you progressively “unlock” areas to explore, and even if in late FFs, you needed an airship to unlock said areas, a lot of them was still optional, thus making the game more adventure like and less linear.

            I feel that the “linear JRPG” statement is a big misconception. And games like the Elder Scrolls series just overshadows the JRPG genre, thus creating the “linear JRPG” statement. It MIGHT feel more linear, but it’s not.

          • Detrimont

            but in most cases, they are linear for the first 60-80%

          • aizen310

            First 60% is fine. Areas included in that 60% usually can be backtracked later to reveal more hidden things. Final Fantasy 6 had Narshe as it’s starting town, but later, Narshe had two optional recruitable PCs, Umaro and Mog, also the eidolon Ragnarok, which you can take as a sword or a summonable eidolon, so even after the initial 60%, it is probable that you can do extra stuff in past towns/dungeons.

            Dissing the exploration element from a JRPG game just because of that circa 30-40% is outrageous.

            Now, Final Fantasy 13 was really a linear JRPG, even the fan favorite FF10 was like “you start at A, go to B”. FF10 was somewhat redeemed itself with the International version, with Dark Aeons and hunting for the ultimate weapons and catching monsters for the Monster Colosseum. But it was pale in comparison to the likes of Chrono Trigger, FF6, FF7 and Tales of the Abyss for example.

          • Detrimont

            i’m not dissing the exploration element at all, i’m just saying, for at least half the game, in most of the series, only gives the illusion of non-linearity, which is completely true

          • aizen310

            Wrong use of words from my side. Sorry.

            I meant that nowadays developers throwing out the exploration element, and that’s why there’s that false statement of “linear JRPG”.

            ” for at least half the game, in most of the series, only gives the illusion of non-linearity”
            And why is that wrong? The last half is still non-linear. Even I said in my previous comment: “JRPGS MIGHT just tend to be more linear than WRPGs since there aren’t a plethora of trivial side-quests in them”

      • Every game gives you the illusion of non-linearity. EVERY game is somehow linear, but it doesn’t mean there are no differences. Old FF games were linear but not THAT linear, you still could travel around the world, do side quests, visit towns, explore world, unlike in XIII where the first 30h of the game is literally a tunnel…

  • landlock

    I don’t really care if the characters are male or female I just like a interesting story and the game looks like it’s going to be fun.

    • British_Otaku

      Arbitrary percentage made up to deflect criticism and keep people hyped for much to come.

      Senran Kagura Estival Versus is 30% finished as of the TGS build and it releases in March next year: http://gematsu.com/2014/09/two-minutes-senran-kagura-estival-versus-ps4-gameplay

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      I would love to hear Patrick Stewart’s voice in XV. It would be fitting if you want a sense of class.

      • 3PointDecoupage

        I doubt that would be hard. I mean, he does family guy.

  • fyi1191

    I hope they meet up with a group of female villains at the end.

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      people will complain “BEATING UP FEMALES? AND ONLY MALES WIN!? SEXIIIIST!!!”

    • Go2hell66

      Anita Sarkeesian will be all over that shit

      • is she still relevant?

        • Go2hell66

          was she ever relevant though?

        • Symbol de Au

          She got a death threat about a month ago. Screencapped that carp in 12 seconds(literally) to stay relevant.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        Not if their gender has nothing to do with their motivations.

    • 3PointDecoupage

      My first thought: Fighting good guys by daylight. Winning love by moonlight. We are the villains of FF15!

      • Detrimont

        We are the femme fatale’s of XV

    • LemonsArentForever

      it’ll just be this..

    • KanjiLikesBoys

      that would be amazing

  • Blati. Boyu.

    And that’s exactly why this game is gonna sucks, besides pretty graphics. FF’s soul is dead since XII. XV is basically boring dudes on a modern world. Haha, this is so Final “FANTASY”, right.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Fantasy is defined by what can be conjured up in the human mind, not elves and dwarves. You can just play Dragon Age or Bravely Default if you want old school Final Fantasy settings.

    • Yeah, because there are always giant monsters roaming outside in a “Modern” world lol

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      “Jeez. Why can’t people accept Fantasy doesn’t always imply a medieval setting with castles and princesses? So tired of these “This game sucks cause modern and I didn’t even tried it yet”. Ughhh.”

    • 3PointDecoupage

      I like the modern setting. Reminds me of 8.

    • Naryoril

      i’d say the FF soul is very much alive in XIV, even though it’s an MMO

    • r4ind4nce

      Fantasy doesn’t have to be tolkienesque High Fantasy… imagining your boss or teacher doing backflips in front of you is already fantasy… and I imagine FFXV is stuffed with all kinds of flips, so there.

      • HarakiriKami

        dark fantasy much bettah

    • Hound

      What was so fancy about XII?

      It seemed like their attempt to make an offline spinoff of XI to entice more people to buy into MMO gameplay since the concept wasn’t very popular when the game was first being developed.

      Everything from the story intro, the story its-self played out half of the time, to the monsters, to the battle system, to NPCs, to running into NPCs, to randomly dispersed safety camps, to grinding specific things in dungeons, to dungeon events, to warping, to paying for slightly faster transport, to the excuses to move onto a new land or area, to bosses, to hunting/quest boards was just saying “This is what an MMO is like. We made one. You should play it.”

  • 3PointDecoupage

    You know what 50 percent means? They probably had a ton of the game done and just through it out and restarted which is really disappointing. In the TGS trailer there was no.sign of Noctis using telekinesis to control a ton of swords. I remember a blonde girl with a rapier who seems to have disappeared, and I swear all four of thosw guys look different.

    • British_Otaku

      Senran Kagura Estival Versus is 30% finished according to Takaki.
      Percentages don’t need to be mean anything specific.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Remember back early 2011 when you can switch between characters seamlessly? Though that was probably just a pre-rendered proof of concept.

    • Pretty sure the blonde girl supposed to be the main heroine, but iirc they kinda changed her role now… so who knows

    • Magicks

      Yeah. Stella used to have long hair, and they redid her face in the 2011 trailer IIRC. The guys look much different than when they appeared previously as well. And I hope that Noctis retained that ability to wield multiple weapons with all the swords swooshing around him. We’ll see once we see footage of the demo.

  • Txu Zai

    No female party members, that’s cool, as they are normally the most annoying.

    • Kuromadou

      probably they put some female char, but it will bad written and everyone will go nitpicking all over again :))

    • Andrewmated

      Really? That could not be farther from the truth, in my opinion. Rydia, Eiko, Dagger, Terra, Sarah, Yuna, Rikku, Rinoa, Selphie, and Quistis are some of my favorite characters in the whole series. It’s really weird and disappointing that this game is shelving female party members.

  • sakusakusakura_nyo

    No! I always roll with an an female party in these games, what am I supposed to do now?

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Play X-2?

      • Kuromadou

        don’t worry, there’s a tons of schoolgirls on Type 0

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          Even a lesbian among them. That lesbian being Seven, who likes if Light and Hope had a baby together.

          • sakusakusakura_nyo

            Nice, that’s what I’m talking about dude.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            Seven is bi. we can conclude that after *huge spoiler*

        • sakusakusakura_nyo

          Yeah Type 0 looks cool.

      • sakusakusakura_nyo

        NO! I hate that game.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          But it has females and you say you want females. Do the math.

          • Addy

            What a foolish response.

          • Hound

            Nah. It has imaginary female characters born from some guy’s loony Charley’s Angels obsession.

          • Extra Z-001

            Gender is often a factor in why people play games.

            But it’s rarely the only factor.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            There’s a difference between having an all-male party if it’s relevant to the plot or thematic and then there’s having only men as playable to appeal only men and boys, something Activision is very fond of because “they sell better”.

          • Extra Z-001

            One has to wonder why having gender exclusive journeys would be a thematic theme in many cases.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            As a guy, I find it difficult to explain but it’s sorta like if you bring your mother on a journey, you lose control and where you go and any sense of deep thinking, only for someone, who feels out of place, kills the mood.

            What you and some dudes we’re riding motorcycles on a highway, sit down at night with a campfire circle, drinking a few beers and reminisce while planning what to do next. You think having a woman wouldn’t ruin the experience? Maybe not if it was all-female.

            In many ways, Women are still from Venus and men are still from Mars.

            Let XV have it’s brotherhood.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            This doesn’t even have to be as ‘socially aware’ as your final general thoughts.

            I doubt there is a guy who when they are alone with their brother from another mother or a girl spending time with her BFF does not honestly recognize that things are different then.

          • Extra Z-001

            “You think having a woman wouldn’t ruin the experience?”

            I don’t say or do things based upon what gender someone is. Except what pronouns someone wants to be called.

            “In many ways, Women are still from Venus and men are still from Mars.”
            I disagree entirely.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            Okay, how about this, “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.” Better?

          • sakusakusakura_nyo

            I want a better game than that. Don’t be a fucking smartass.

  • Wallahby

    Dat sausage fest

  • Rafael Martines

    Only 50%? Please BE EXCITED!!! LoL

  • Shuryou

    Final Fantasy? A road movie? 4 dudes on the go? No women in the party? Hahahaha, this sounds so ridiculous I just have to try it now. Final Fantasy XV ‘Dude, Where’s My Car’ edition!
    Edit: I really hope the car gets to have a name, like… Chocobo! Or Epoch! Or Highwind!

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      How dare you. You compare XV to some low-brow shlock, especially the kind that’s bad, even for low-brow standards.

      I’ll stick to art-house animation like Revolutionary Girl Utena, thank you very much.

  • SirRichard

    You know, from all I’ve seen of this game, really wouldn’t have expected it to be one big flashy road trip. Not that I mind, sounds like it’ll be pretty fun, if they’re intentionally acknowledging that.

    Will your party members fight to ride shotgun? This is critical.

  • Rocco

    When I saw that the game is only at 50-55%, I almost had a heart attack. 8 years for 50-55%!?
    “…and you won’t have to wait another five or ten years after the release of the demo, so don’t worry”
    Unfortunately this does not sound that reassuring to me. Now I’m not even that positive that we’ll get this game in 2016…

    • Detrimont

      50-55% in the years since Tabata came into the picture, meaning 50-55% in a couple of years…

      • Shadow Rebirth

        2 years to be exact

  • Expect a swimsuits DLC. “Free Fantasy” Ughhh….

    • Robert Backland

      The funny thing is I was thinking the opposite. At least we won’t have to deal with costume DLC. You’re probably right though.

    • HarakiriKami

      you do know they are voiced by the cast of free yes?

  • Shadow Rebirth

    American girls= prefer “girls”. Japanese girls=prefer bishounen(handsome boys).
    hmmm, i prefer Japanese girl much better.
    All male-character? doesn’t give a ****. still day-one

  • Kaijumaster

    I don’t understand. ..I didn’t see any men in the trailer.

  • Romancer Ecclesia

    All males>adaptation to suit american market>assassins creed non female cast argument>controversy>social justice warriors>popcornlolz

  • Lolita

    At least there ARE still female characters in the game, just not playable unfortunately. Still have no idea if this is Stella or that Luna girl that Noctis’ group mentioned.
    http://i.imgur.com/pRCUZ0A.jpg

    • We start the game , after the demo , the male group is destroyed , noctis escape but is captured , his three buddies killed
      Stella is responsible of this and we play Luna girl and her buddies girls in a trip to save Noctis

      Players will be so MAD , need this !

      • Eilanzer

        …don´t give them ideas man XD

        • Hahaha !

        • Dark Zerato

          I actually like this idea more than a group of boys running around.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        dude, you just spoiled me the plot of XV-2

    • MrTyrant

      I wanted to see more about the hime cut girl.

  • MinakoArisato

    Well, if they have planned an all male cast, then there is nothing to do about it.
    The only thing I do is not buying it, because I think it is better to have as many different characters as possible, so everyone has a chance to play a favourite.

    Its my personal opinion, but I think, this is a bit of a downgrade.

    • Not everything has to be all-inclusive. You could not possibly represent every kind of person so you will never be able to make everybody happy. At least if that’s the single only requirement for the enjoyability of a movie/show/game.
      If you only buy things that fulfil an arbitrary set of rules like the Bechdel test you’re filtering out some potentially great material (eg. Dead Poets Society, 2001 Space Odyssey, Shadow of the Colossus) while keeping some bad apples (eg. Fast & Furious 6, Sucker Punch, Onechanbara).
      Here’s a suggestion: Wait and see if a movie/show/game is reportedly good, THEN decide if you want to buy it or not. OR you could just give it a try yourself despite the lack of playable female characters. Obviously you were interested in the game before that factoid hit.

  • Samuel

    What’s the problem with a all male cast? I mean,really? It’s just a bunch of buddies saving the world. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be any story behind it or anything,it still is FF -.-

    • Janrabbit

      It literally blows my mind that such a large number of people are too close minded to see this.

      • What does it have to do with being close minded? It’s just that all of them are men and all of them seems similar in “style”. It’s normal that people want to have at least one character they can relate to or at least like, the lack of diversity kills it for many people…

        • Janrabbit

          Why don’t you reserve that judgement until you actual play/see any of the game. THAT is what I mean by close minded.

  • Mecha_the_Hedgehog

    Ah gotcha its reverse Senran Kagura say no more.

  • Eefara

    This has actually made me more excited for the game. FF roadtrip? Dudes only? Yeeeessss.

  • mojack411

    Huh, that’s actually really interesting. The group dynamic of having an all male cast in the party combined with the road trip style is certainly something I can get behind. Bros being bros is always a welcome breath of fresh air from male/female dynamics in most RPG’s.

    On another note… 50-55% complete… *le sigh*

    • Janrabbit

      What ever happened to “Bros before Hoes”. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

  • You know what they should put in their music player while travelling that vast open world, defeating Behemoths and other creatures DOOD? THIS:

    https://youtu.be/uOBnL07VWUM

    hAHAHHAA XD I know it’s out of game dood, but still… just imagine this song while Noctis and his entourage enjoy the views ;-D YEAH DOOD! M/ LET’S PARTY DOOD!

    (By the way, I bought Tekken Tag Tournament 2 the other day for PS3 and it’s awesome dood! Can’t get enough of its awesome tunes dood)

    Then suddenly… we fight the creatures with this disco dubstep tune XD yeah dood! FINAL FANTASY XV: THE ROADTRIP DUBSTEP EDITION!

    • Fainaru Luna

      They’ll be alot of sidestepping wave dash is this adventure XD

    • Classy guys need classy tunes

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj1XRs2y0Uo

      • m/ awww yeah dood. Now this one rocks as well. When you’re not fighting monsters, Noctis and his boys will enjoy the crystal sunset!!!! yeah dood!

  • RagingTiger44

    I have no issue here with the cast. I got a road trip vibe from the trailer, nice to know that’s what they were going for. I personally hope there’s a bit more witty banter among the characters. If we’re gonna be on the road with them for a long time, it’s gotta at least be entertaining.

  • XaviIniesta

    Incoming fanfictions about the all male “roadtrip”.

    • SpeeeeedowaGOOONnnn

      Prepare for what’s to come

    • KanjiLikesBoys

      Britney better do the opening theme

    • FINAL FANTASY: CROSSROADS 2!

  • Kaetsu

    If Square Enix sees everyone complaining about the all male cast, they’ll take it as a chance to make a certain character return.

    • HentaRobot

      Maybe it was their plan all along?
      SE: All according to plan.

      • Axle

        Those clever bastards LOL Lightning will never stop

    • greeeed

      character return…..
      by the way, FFXV world happened in same world as FXIII right?

      …..looking at Lightning……
      than again, it won’t be bad if she is here again since I like her armor and snow armor in FFXIV

    • Haha, Im pretty sure we’ll get something related to HER ;)

    • César H. Sandoval

      I’m gonna laugh if people complain about a male party when no one say anything about X2 having only girls.

      • Crystal Power

        In their defense Final Fantasy X-2 was a sequel, not a main installment.

        • César H. Sandoval

          True, but remember that XV was once upon a time “VersusXIII”, a spinoff to Lighting’s game and it was only renamed to XV because they have been “making” it for 8 years.

          • Crystal Power

            It really wasn’t a spin-off to Lightning game. It only share the same Mythology and besides it’s still apart of Fabula Nova Crystallis, as well as Final Fantasy TYPE-0.

          • César H. Sandoval

            Maybe, but my point actually was that since Versus was not the “main” FF game, they felt they could do different stuff (Al male party, real time combat) with it as they did with AgitoXIII(Type-0), and most of it remains even if the name got changed-

            Same as how they tried different stuff with X2, Dirge of Cerberus, Criss Core, XIII-2 Lightning Returns, etc. back in the day

          • Crystal Power

            In that case, it probably should have remained Versus XIII. It’s trying to hard to be different…

          • César H. Sandoval

            Indeed, I already see a lot of backlash online because of how “non-traditional” this seems for a FF game, most people may not care that it wasn’t a main numbered tittle back when Nomura came up with the idea, I just hope they give it a chance first before disregarding it.

    • SlickRoach

      Final Fantasy: Lighting Returns Yet Again for Another Time – Electric Boogaloo II

  • Randgriz

    If people start complaining about gender politics in a game weve already known about for 5 years, im going to go crazy.

    • KanjiLikesBoys

      News flash, we were complaining about it 6 years ago

      • Kengofu

        News Flash: Still to this day, not a person cares. They targeted two demographics: males and Japanese females who prefer “bishounen” male characters to women. Want women in your party, go play literally any Final Fantasy. If you just want something to complain about, however, no one will indulge you. Women are not a necessity for the party make-up, buddy. Not everything has to cater to your interests.

        • Whodat

          Unfortunately some people do still care & will still indulge others in their complaining. As annoying as it may seem to be to you, it’s often cathartic for them.

        • KanjiLikesBoys

          The fact that people are complaining means we know we aren’t catered to. This isn’t a case of “we deserve this because we are important” its “its we are consumers and would’ve liked something thing else in our product.”
          MEN aren’t even necessary for a party. They can add a robot, a cait-sith, a chocobo, a space ship.
          It’s not about shoulds but about “oh, well that makes this a bit less interesting”

  • KanjiLikesBoys

    that doesn’t sound very “fantastic”

  • Engi3Piece

    okay so its official the Fujoshi market/female otaku market in japan is at a all time high now and Final Fantasy just confirm it for me. Ever since Uta no Prince sama there have been a rise of anime and merchandise aim for the female audience there have been a really nice number of male PVC and figma figures release and anime that are likely aim at males (Gintama, Tiger and Bunny) are getting female oriented merchandise body pillows, (surprisingly gintama have way more male PVC figures then their female counter parts). I’m pretty sure the all Bishi-male cast is to drawn in the female demographic back probably since the last few games have been Lightning the cold Waifu(with the last one being Lightning Waifu Dress up Simulator). Also its laughable over the outrage this is I doubt any female will be complaining about this since the cast is an all pretty guy group (they’re fucking gorgeous IMO). Its a nice of change of pace form all the male otaku pandering games that keep being announce lately. Was there this much outrage when the FF X-2 cast was announced.

    Edit: I also forgot the cast so far from what I can tell are very popular male VAs in japan, which further proves my point that this aim specially for female fans

    • Ni ~Algidus~

      didn’t know XIII and XIII-2 were all about Light

    • Shadow Rebirth

      you are saying like i’m a girl…. **** it. still day-one

  • Chido55

    I give you Waifu for 3 games, you complained.
    Now I give you husbandus, you complained still.

    – currently enjoying the hate =D

    • Herok♞

      Give me one Final Fantasy game that was released, that gets no hate after the internet became a more permanent place in peoples life because I doubt there is one.

      • Maybe because FF is getting worst and worst…

        • Or maybe every one of us is… kupo.

        • Herok♞

          Final Fantasy is really a hit or miss game with people, like FF7 for example some people praise as one of the greatest games ever but I find it very meh, and I am not going to the 13 games were perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I still enjoyed them as is. Everyone has a different take on every game in the series that is a combination of nostigia and other factors, the games are all different but none are outright bad.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        it’s a tradition by now. I remember the massive amount of hate that XII got to this day. Every single website that I accessed had people hating the game.

        • Herok♞

          Pretty much my point exactly people will always find something to hate on.

  • Herok♞

    Just going to say we never see this discussion in articles for things like Senren Kagura or Neptunia where they plan to have all Female cast from the get go, heck people cry blasphemy and claim that the single Male Character in SK2 was the reason the game didn’t sell as well as the others. This just seems pretty hypocritical in my opinion.

    • ivanchu77

      I have seen many people criticizing neptunia or senran kagura calling it pandering, otaku bait, for virgins and crap like that, yet these same people get wet with this pseudo-yaoi game called final fantasy XV

      bunch of hypocrites

    • Istillduno

      Thats because we don’t expect anything better from them by now.

      FF might have got a bit rubbish with the 13 series but going full fujoshi bait has put it on the same level as Compile Heart’s “offerings”, it’s sad to see that happen to such an established series.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        >Compile Heart’s “offerings”, it’s sad to see that happen to such an established series.

        Even with the pandering. FF still is alot better than these shit games that compile heart develops. FF games at least had characters that seems to be inspired by cultures all around the world and with good gameplay

      • What are your thoughts on Final Fantasy X-2?

        • Istillduno

          I forgot that existed until it came with X on the remake and after trying it I was happy to forget it existed again.

    • Whodat

      I’ve never played Senren Kagura or Neptunia.. they’re not as popular as FF right? Anyway, didn’t both of those series start with all female casts? I’m just curious because I don’t know for sure. lol. Though If final fantasy as a series had always been all male casts — I don’t think people would be questioning this.

    • Extra Z-001

      The situation is kind of different. And different people like different things.

      Senren Kagura and Neptunia are sexualized fanservice games, rather than serious stories. Final Fantasy XV is not exactly an otome game with sexualized boys.

      And also, most video games are focused on male characters and their stories. So the situation is different and people are going to treat male focused and female focused games differently, because there aren’t enough and aren’t as many female focused video games in comparison to male focused video games.

  • ivanchu77

    Just look at Persona and especially tales of, where most of the fanbase are females and most of the merchandising is focused on fujoshis, yet they still have plenty of cool and/or cute girls and oddball designs catering succefully to much more people.

    If you want to have edgy yaoi emo boys that´s fine, but please include a bigger variety of characters, i certaintly don´t feel very motivated to play a game where i dislike every single playable character.

    • Justin Graham

      Calling them “edgy yaoi emo boys” is hyperbole, especially when we know next to nothing about them individually. It seems that one of the game’s themes is brotherhood and the bond between these characters, so the idea of an all-male party makes sense in that respect. The lack of female party members will undoubtedly disappoint some, but the current cast seems fine as is.

  • Göran Isacson

    Aww, guess that’s that. I was hoping for us getting to switch between different playable perspectives, perhaps play as Noctis and his crew on the lam, then switch to Stella as she tries to deal with the fall-out of all the events that lead Noctis to escape, but so much for that.

    Though I do admit that I am a bit wary now. From what I’ve seen this game seems to start with Noctis’s family being ousted in a coup by forces who wants to use the crystal protected by Noctis family (did I get that right?). Noctis escapes the attack with his possee, and they go on the lam. But that brings up memories of a certain other Final Fantasy title where the main characters mostly spent their time on the run from an all-controlling super-power, and that one didn’t exactly wow me with it’s story…

    I’m actually really curious now as to how they will treat the whole “on the run” aspect of the story and combine it with the less linear world-design. Will we perhaps be able to avoid the law if we play it safey? Make choices that will see the heat on us rise or lessen? Will there even BE less linear world-design, considering that Tabata is only saying that the whole world will be seamlessly connected, NOT that we aren’t going to be lead down a certain path? Who knows…

  • Sapitntapit

    The characters look pretty solid, but damn, they need to just give Noctis some pants.

  • Ni ~Algidus~

    “is noctis still being the only playable character?”
    Is what they needed to ask

    • bob

      on gematsu, they compiled all the interviews from different gaming sites into 1 article. Noctis being the only playable character was confirmed -_-

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        god fucking damn it. I fucking knew it. It is one of the reasons of why i hate nomura as a director. dude seems to hate party members being playable

        • bob

          Nomura isn’t even the director anymore though. for all we know, the decision could’ve been Tabata’s.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            But he was when the decision was made. and since his ideas are going to stay and be implemented on the game, I blame him

          • bob

            From the interviews, tabata seems a little too focused on getting FF XV out the door — the man cut co-op from type-0 ’cause he wanted to release it as quick as possible(source: kotaku)

            wouldn’t be surprised if that was also the reason why FF XV’s combat system is so simplistic….

          • bob

            Also, when Nomura was the director of the project, before it turned into versus 13, there was a gameplay footage showing temporary control of Ignis & Prompto(2011 trailer). it wasn’t until Tabata took over that all this talk about noctis being the only controllable character started…

      • Shadow Rebirth

        i heard it is only on demo. some confirms it

        • bob

          The guy claiming it was only in the demo got his info from the TGS gameplay trailer(basically, the combination attack with noctis and prompto). In the interview when Tabata stated that Noctis was the only playable character, it had nothing to do with the demo at all.

          Until we get an “official” confirmation, it’s safe to assume noctis is the only playable character just as Tbata stated….

  • Extra Z-001

    To be honest, that doesn’t sound that interesting to me at all. It’s good that they’re getting around to making and releasing the game. And I would get it if they released in on the PC instead of just consoles. But I think if it were just released on consoles, I would skip out on it. At least for a very long. This is not one of those types of games that I would get on the first day on consoles.

    I’m most excited about Tales of Zestiria. And other games that sound exciting are the new Xenoblade game and the new Disgaea game. And even the new Persona game is more exciting to me than this.

    I really don’t like the gender focus on this game. It’s too much about guys taking a road trip. The other Japanese RPGs coming out have a much better gender balance.

    • Ni ~Algidus~

      What would be your reaction if the game had a all female cast?
      Also, i’m not trolling. I just want know how you would react to that

      • Extra Z-001

        It would be a little less boring to me. Because unfortunately the video game industry is largely full of male characters rather than female characters. And perhaps because I just like playing as female characters more. Though there are some male characters I like more than some female characters.

        But right now these are things that are happening. To be honest, I think for most games a balance of both good male and female characters is the best. But I’m more interested in games with all female characters because I’m more interested in playing as female characters and because the video game industry has too many male characters and not enough female characters.

        • bob

          Diversity for the sake of diversity is just stupid. But if an FF game with an all female cast is what you’re looking for, you can go play FF X-2… there are no playable male characters in that one. have fun!

          Also – don’t remember anyone complaining about the lack of diversity in that game. lol the double standards, i swear….

          • Axle

            This.

          • Whodat

            people keep using this argument but is X-2 even a flagship numbered title? 10-2? it’s a spin off sequel…right? if this had been 13-versus like it was meant to be there’d hopefully be less complaining. This is a game that people waited 9 years for & it will be the first numbered final fantasy to have an all 1gender party.

          • bob

            FF XV is about a bunch of guy friends that grew up together, going on a journey. There are main female characters in the game, but they aren’t part of that clique of friends! Throwing a female character in there just for diversity sake is dumb!

            lol but lets be honest here, majority of the people complaining are pissed off ’cause they didn’t get their boobs. boobs that they were hoping to dress up in little school girl outfits when dlc for the game came out…..

          • Ferrick

            No, X-2 is NOT a spin off, it’s a sequel, and XV will be the third time to have an all 1 gender party

          • Extra Z-001

            “Diversity for the sake of diversity is just stupid.”

            I didn’t say they had to have diversity. I just don’t happen to like games with mostly male characters.

            And diversity is generally a good thing.

            “But if an FF game with an all female cast is what you’re looking for”

            Actually, I said that I prefer for games to have a mixture of good male and good female characters.

          • bob

            If the writer didn’t intend for it, then it isn’t a good thing! Just doing it to shut a bunch of people up is stupid.

        • Ni ~Algidus~

          I see. Well, I care more about the story and how the characters are going to be placed and act. I don’t have a gender preference when playing a game. if the characters are doing their job at fitting in the story i’m okay with it and would gladly play as them.

          • Extra Z-001

            I guess we like different things, then. That’s okay.

      • Whodat

        I’d feel kind of bad because of the lack of diversity for other players, but for me personally, since I prefer playing as a female — I wouldn’t mind. & you know, that is exactly what it must be like for all the people in here commenting that an all male party isn’t a big deal — they enjoy playing males so while the diversity is lacking this is still acceptable.

        I think I will still play this but I might not get it right away, I really liked the more boyish designs noctis & prompto had in versus.. prompto was honestly the closest thing there was at the time to a female party member lol, and now that they’ve gone and made sure all the party members are a bit more masculine.. it just adds to the disdain for me personally.

        That’s just my feelings/opinions. My 2 cents, w/e. Since you were asking about reactions. I’m not saying the game is bad at all & I hope it does well.

    • Godmars

      More disheartened by the apparent lack of controllable airships and that weapons are going to be some kind of random selection than that there’s only going to be four guys in the party.

      • bob

        ^THIS!

        they haven’t officially announced that there won’t be any airships, so we can’t say for sure. I’m with you on the combat system, tho! not digging what i’ve been hearing at all! the game basically plays itself…

        EDIT: Hope the demo proves me wrong and the game turns out to be fun, yet challenging.

    • Yeah, all of this. Especially since the new Xenoblade may have character customization~. (At least I may be able to play a gal in that game. ♥)

      The all male case here is disappointing, but it’s just one of the things added on top to make it less of a buy. The case overall doesn’t seem as fun as the one in Zestiria, etc.

  • Shinobikens

    Fujoshi Fantasy XV

    • When can the other XIV be released in HD for glorious fujoshi viewing/playing~?

  • zferolie

    “The party will only have male characters,”

    Welp, no buy for me then. Sorry, but i like having some sort of playable female character in these games, and not having any just kills any interest I had in it.

    • lemon

      You must not play many games.

      • zferolie

        haha. Well thats not the only thing I look for I guess. its just, other then the game looking pretty, nothing really drew me to it. If there were some female cast members I may have looked more. But right now it just looks pretty.

      • Manny Being Manny

        Well, I’m the same way but I only really play JRPGs and visual novel style games. I don’t think I’ve ever played a JRPG with only male characters and I won’t start now.

    • Shuryou

      The car is a she.

    • FivePointedTheStar

      This is a rather shallow reason to not play a game.

      • Manny Being Manny

        Different people play games for different reasons. If you don’t like the characters in a story based game, I don’t see that as a shallow reason to not play a game.

        • lemon

          If you don’t like the characters because they’re male, isn’t that sexist?

          • Manny Being Manny

            As sexist as a gender can be towards themselves, I guess. This is obviously being aimed more at female gamers so I don’t think they are the ones who are going to be avoiding it.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            How is this game being aimed towards female gamers? Just because it’s a mostly male cast? So if I’m a guy and I buy the game it’s because it’s assumed I like yaoi or some other fandumb excuse?

          • Manny Being Manny

            Yes, because its a group of popular bishounen archetypes. This is all the rage in the current Japanese gaming and anime industry to appeal to women.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            “This is all the rage in the current Japanese gaming and anime industry to appeal to women.” I’d like a source before I hear a “fact” like that.

          • Manny Being Manny

            http://i45.tinypic.com/209q82o.png

            All of the Shonen Jump manga with a focus on hot guys appeal more to women, even though it runs in a magazine aimed at teen boys.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Giving me a chart by itself isn’t enough. Who made the chart? What method did they use to gather the information? When was it made? Without any of that information, you could’ve it pulled out of anywhere.

          • Manny Being Manny

            http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdfx3iZsx81qamhyd.jpg

            Its translated from a poll Shonen Jump posted last year

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Why are the titles split into two sections in the original chart, but it’s all one chart in the translated one?

          • Manny Being Manny

            The top part are the most popular titles among women, and the bottom part are the most popular characters among men.

            They just added them altogether in the translated chart.

            And if you look at the chart, the stuff men are more heavily skewed to are the manga with hot girls like Nisekoi and Medaka Box. While women prefer hot shirtless guys in sports anime like Kuroko and Haikyuu. Its pretty simple to understand.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Yeah… I get what argument you’re trying to make, but your evidence doesn’t really fit.

          • Extra Z-001

            I don’t know, I think that the evidence was pretty good, in this case.

          • Pdugna

            Dude One Piece almost flipping 50/50 I love the series. Sucks people on Arlong Park forms bitch that nami and robin are sexist because they grew tits over the timeskip.

          • lemon

            You don’t think going on a roadtrip with a bunch of dudes may appeal to men?

          • Extra Z-001

            To be fair, I think it’s only partially falling into the fushijoshi appeal. There will certainly be many fujoshi fans of the game and an overlap between the otome game fanbase and fans of Final Fantasy XV.

            And there is already an overlap in the Final Fantasy fanbase and those who buy Final Fantasy games. Final Fantasy and many Japanese RPGs have always been popular with women. Kingdom Hearts is very popular with women because of its bishounen and shota characters.

            That being said, Final Fantasy XV is certainly no Free! or otome game. There are two very bishounen characters in this game, Noctis and Promto. But a lot of the other male characters are really far away from being bishounen.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            NEWS FLASH: Are gamers sexist?
            :O
            “WHOOOOOAAAA”

          • GreatKino

            Lol

          • Extra Z-001

            Sexism is more nuanced than that.

            A lot of people are focused on things like racism and sexism and things like that as if it’s best to talk about individuals and shame them or something if they’re racist or sexist. Like a klansman or something like that.

            And yes, if someone is a klansman who harasses ethnic minorities and poses harm and danger to them, or someone who threatens and harasses women, like women in the gaming industry or something like that, that is racist, and sexist, and vile.

            But an even bigger issue than badly behaving individuals, is how groups of people are treated differently. Treating racism or sexism and an individual perspective or behavior, rather than trends in society, ignores the bigger picture. Which is more important.

            It might be a little sexist to prefer female characters. But it’s a far bigger problem than the video game industry itself is sexist as a trend against female characters.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            He was making a joke.

          • Extra Z-001

            Hard to tell!

        • FivePointedTheStar

          We know almost nothing except the fact that they’re mostly a male cast. Anything said about “characters in a story based game” means nothing as of now.

      • zferolie

        I just enjoy female characters, but thats not the only reason. from what little we have seen, I am not that interested. Sure the game is pretty but it looks like every pretty FF game now. The characters don’t look that interesting and what we know of the story doesn’t hold for me. I admit the gameplay looks interesting but looks and feels are completely different.

      • PowerSerg

        Not representing 51% of the world is a shallow reason, id say that is a bigger reason then most reasons to not play a game. What reasons do we have not to play a game that aren’t shallow? The fact is it’s his 60 dollars, plus if he would have to buy a ps4 add that cost as well. If a frame of a game looks shitty and that is a persons reason to not play it then it’s a good enough reason. Plus what has this game done for anyone, nothing? The game isn’t out, no one here has played the game. The game isn’t worth defending until at least you know it’s good enough to call people who were upset about that and tell them “Okay the gameplay, plot and all that’s amazing so don’t worry about the minor issue.”

        • FivePointedTheStar

          “Plus what has this game done for anyone, nothing? The game isn’t out, no one here has played the game.”

          I can turn this right around, say the exact opposite of what you just wrote, and it’d still make sense. In other words, your argument is very weak.

          • PowerSerg

            No it isn’t I have to spend 60 dollars to buy a game. I don’t owe companies anything to buy a game. I can pass judgment on things I don’t indulge in. Other wise by your logic everyone should see every movie, watch every show and play every video game. We all pass judgment on things prior to indulging in it. When watching I a movie my job isn’t to find a way to like it or not be bothered by things. Their job is to please me as an audience member even if a minor thing would bother me.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            The only real argument you have is something I can’t dispute. Yeah, it’s your money and you can do whatever you want with it. I agree with that. You’re absolutely right about that. Everything else however, is an ill opinion.

        • FivePointedTheStar

          “Not representing 51% of the world”

          Do that 51% a favor. Never write or say that ever again.

          • PowerSerg

            Or you could do the 49% a favor and stop making us look like idiots.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Unfortunately for you, it’s not me. lol

          • When and where did he ever point you out an idiot?

          • PowerSerg

            He didn’t make me look like an idiot, he makes men look like idiots.

          • Extra Z-001

            Irony.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Touche.

        • GOLD

          I’m sorry but making characters for he sake of representing a demographic is dumb. From what we know the game and it’s story are based on the over arching theme of a bro-ad trip. It’s the story the developers want to tell, so let them tell it before you decide you dislike it based on the exclusion of something that wouldn’t have fit into the overall theme.

          • Extra Z-001

            It is if they’re poorly represented characters who are only included to pander and done half heartedly. And become token characters or poorly made characters. Or if someone’s vision is compromised.

            But then again, not everyone is going to like some people’s visions. And some of them are reflective of social values or feelings that not everyone is going to like.

            In the end, people should be able to make what they want to make. And they don’t have to make things to please other people. But other people don’t have to like them, either. If people don’t want to play a game with only male protagonists, they’re entitled to that, and it’s a completely valid reason to not want to play a game.

          • PowerSerg

            What you are saying is i’ll informed. If we are going to talk about video games as art then let us look to art. Do you go see a film starting a cast that doesn’t appeal to you? Should we all see every indie film that releases to never ignore the artist vision of an artist? If games are art then we can not enjoy a game for the same reason we don’t enjoy a film. If we don’t identify with our protagonists in a film then likely the film will fail. I doubt you go see every chick flick that releases. I doubt you see every film. I doubt you play ever game. What makes this game so special that judgment can’t be passed before release? You can watch a movie and walk out saying “Why weren’t their black people, why weren’t women in the movie” the same thing can be done for a video game. You don’t want these games to be art you just want to protect what you love from judgment.

          • GOLD

            Ill informed? I wouldn’t judge a movie based on its cast before I even see it, especially not based on something as superficial as the gender or ethnicity of the characters . My point is that this game or any SHOULD NOT be judged before its release or review, and when it is released it should be judged for what it is rather than what it isn’t. Its like neglecting a painting for not having the colors you wanted it to have. If the characters don’t fit they don’t fit. I am not going to beg for black characters in in a samurai movie just like no one should be whining about the lack of female characters in this game when the designers have already decided against it.. I am not protecting this game from judgement. it could be a total disaster, but throwing characters in the game for sake of having them is stupid.

      • Extra Z-001

        It is absolutely not a shallow reason to not play a game.

        Sorry, but you’re wrong.

        • FivePointedTheStar

          I’m sorry, but it is.

          • Extra Z-001

            Not only are you wrong, but you’re elitist.

            You clearly have no clue what being “shallow” is. Educate yourself.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            So you’re relying on personal attacks to argue.

            I’m taking back every like I just gave you. Lawl

          • Extra Z-001

            That was not a personal attack. Aside from me saying you’re elitist, but you are being elitist with your opinion by acting as if your opinions and perspective on games is okay, while other people’s are shallow and unjustified.

            In what way is caring about gender representation and what genders are important or playable in a game, shallow?

          • FivePointedTheStar

            NOT a personal attack. The things people write to escape responsibility.

            Who is this “many”? lol

            Never once has anyone brought up elitist. Except you. lol

            That’s really weird, because I liked your other posts because I liked your point of view. lol

            When did I ever argue that there needed be gender representation? Don’t fill their mouth with what you think and call it their argument.

          • Extra Z-001

            “When did I ever argue that there needed be gender representation?”

            You didn’t. I didn’t say you did.

            And while I’m flattered that you say you liked my other posts. It says more about you than it does about me. You’re not an arbiter of whether my posts were good then or now. And I’m not going to change my posting type or my opinions or perspective for you.

    • GreatKino

      Not a good reason to skip a game but It’s your money.

      • Manny Being Manny

        I think knowing you won’t enjoy a game is a good reason to skip something.

        • FivePointedTheStar

          How do you KNOW when the game isn’t even out and it’s only 55% complete? lol

          • Manny Being Manny

            Well, I’ve already said my bit on the characters, but I also don’t like open world games or action combat. I never liked the Kingdom Heart games even though I’m a huge FF fan so I doubt I’d like that kinda combat here.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            You don’t like open world games. You don’t llike games like Kingdom Hearts. You don’t like action combat. I do not understand why people speak of games they have absolutely no interest in.

          • Manny Being Manny

            I’m here because I’m a huge FF fan so I’ll still check out the articles on it while being depressed over the direction one of my favorite franchises has gone.

          • PowerSerg

            By not enjoying games with no female characters? That is an easy way to know.

          • Manny Being Manny

            I’m a huge Neptunia fan, and I know I wouldn’t buy those games if you replaced all the girls with bishounen archetypes. Characters matter a lot.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Of course it is. lol

          • Extra Z-001

            If they come out with a new female character in a trailer, and the parts with only a few male characters in a car is only a small part of the game. And most of the game has a female playable character that I like, then I’ll like the game.

            But at this current point, that seems unlikely. Unfortunately.

      • PowerSerg

        What is a good reason to skip a game? What is a good reason to not spend money on something? What should I be buying or not buying?

      • zferolie

        It’s a good reason if you don’t see any characters you like. I normally like female characters, but if a male is interesting I will play it too. None of these guys look interesting to me. Just your normal regular pretty boy japanese guys. If you like that, more power to you, but its not my thing.

        • PowerSerg

          XD I wouldn’t keep pushing it with these people. They have fallen into the hype train induced by the graphics. They just want to feel justified in their liking of a game and feel like if they aren’t right about the all male cast not being bad then they are sexist. They don’t want to be sexist and they want to be right so they want to defend against every single post that disagree with them even so mild. They want you to feel like your in the wrong so they can feel like they are in the right.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            So now you’re making assumptions about the kind of person the rest of us are? That really shows your maturity.

          • PowerSerg

            No that’s psychology. I’m not saying your a sexist but I’m saying as a male we have a fear of being such when on the internet. We don’t want to be perceived that way so we need to justify out actions. I do it, everyone does it.

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Your psychology is failing if sexism is the only reason you believe I have written anything I have written thus far.

            I’m really sorry that it sounds like you believe everyone’s problems are freudian excuses.

        • GreatKino

          Don’t judge a book by it’s cover.

          • PowerSerg

            or do, stores have tons of books, 100s of books are printed every day, if something about the cover doesn’t work with you look around the rest of the book store. Plenty of books with covers that aren’t shit.

          • zferolie

            True true. However with games you can only judge by what you see, especially in trailers and pre release footage. I am judging by what they are showing me.

            if I can get a chance to play the demo I might change my mind. Maybe a character will feel interesting, or the gameplay be enough. Right not though, just based on this stuff, I am not interested enough to buy the game

      • Extra Z-001

        It’s a plenty good reason. People have different reasons to like and not like games, and not having interesting female characters who are important or you can play as are important and influential.

        You should let other people have their opinions without trying to push your opinions on others.

  • Elemiel

    Road trip? Will it be National Lampoon level?

  • I highly doubt the fact people are complaining are solely based on just the cast being a bunch of guys. Insecurities are sad to project on a game.

    • FivePointedTheStar

      If only I could like this more times.

    • zferolie

      Thats not my only reason, but its my current reason not to like it. Game is pretty, characters don’t interest me. And in a RPG, where characters and gameplay are your main draws, thats a huge minus for me.

      • This was not towards you specifically. This was retort to those who sit down and just chastised this game just because the lack of females then automatically deem it to be a fail game. If it doesnt interest you fine then isnt for you which i will respect.

        Im pretty sure people who said sausage fest is most likely insecure about their orientation and the lack of any true basis of opinion of their own and join the bandwagon. They practically attack a game that didnt even physically harmed them.

        • zferolie

          Ok, I just felt that I wanted to clarify, because my comment below may have seem that it was just the females that stopped it. it’s a big part, but not the only.

          If the guys looked more interesting then I would buy it right way. Gameplay at least looks good.

          • Im not here to attack anyone cause idk anyone here on a personal level. Im just pointing out the observation here. That a lack of a personal opinion is just sad and ride the OH THIS AND THAT SUCKS CAUSE… UHHH DUURR UMMM EVERYBODY SAID IT SUCKS! I KNOW CAUSE EVEYBODY DID!

            Thats sad.

        • Extra Z-001

          I don’t know what anyone is chastising the game. Many of us just aren’t very interested in male focused games.

          I think we should be allowed to have our own feelings and opinions and desires.

          Who is chastising Final Fantasy XV?

          • FivePointedTheStar

            Being not very interested in male focused games is fine. It’s the stuff that people add onto the “because” which isn’t always dandy.

          • This man gets it.

          • Dont know? Have you read the most of articles that goes on rants about male ratio? Have you ever seen other sites that rants on that part alone? Probably have or not.

          • Extra Z-001

            Can you show me these articles where people are chastising the game?

          • Look at the older articles about NO FEMALE NO BUY! OH please cancel no girls.

          • Extra Z-001

            What older articles?

            And what’s wrong with saying “no female, no buy.”?
            That’s not chastising the game.

          • You must be new here. I’ll leave it at that.

  • Sebastian

    When I first saw the trailer, the video for Scar Tissue came to mind, now it’s more appropriate than ever, this is in no way a game changer for me, it looks beautiful
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJj5-lubeM

  • AceEsper

    Like a roadtrip…. Well, that’s weird. This kinda has my attention.

  • Zepht

    I love male characters. No problem :)

  • Godmars

    Airship. Where are the airships?

    I-I…airships – GODDAMNIT!

    • Shuryou

      Where we’re going we don’t need roads! *car starts flying*

      • DOC!!!

        • aizen310

          To be continued…
          *sings Back to the Future theme song*
          na-na-naa-nananaa-na-na-naa

      • Godmars

        In this game? I seriously doubt it.

      • aizen310

        ♫~I believe I can fly~~♫♫
        ♫~I believe I can touch the sky~~♫♫

    • doubleO7

      In cutscenes…

      • Godmars

        Not the answer I’m looking for. The exact opposite really.

    • aizen310

      I can feel your pain. In new Final Fantasies, the good stuff always happening in cutscenes. Like those airships in the TGS trailer of FF15 when the music changed… I want to pilot those, not Gran Turismo cars :/

      Ever since FF10, airships are degraded into a mere function: “Oh, you want to go to that city? Just click on the map buddy. No more exploration needed! We are too cool for that. It’s 21st century, maaaan.” :/

      • bob

        “no air ships” hasn’t been confirmed yet. so don’t jump to conclusions. The car concept, i’m actually digging! goes in line with what Nomura’s been saying since DAY 1 about a fantasy game based on reality.

        • Godmars

          No. Airships are shown in cutscenes, they are elements in-game as combat levels, but the party’s main method of travel – will be a car! Its what they’re pushing. Pushing proudly.

          • Iirc, one of the older info pieces talked about vehicles in general being usable. Cars, airships, all that stuff. You see Noctis maning a cannon in the 2011 gameplay footage if I remember right.

          • Godmars

            Just remember that you’re talking about a game that’s been in development for over eight years and just had a change in directors.

      • Godmars

        That’s the exact, sad, thing.

        To fix the series, all they have to do is to strive to put what they have in cutscenes into a game.

  • DesmaX

    I love the Road Trip concept!

    I understand that people are frustrated by that decision, but the game was designed to be a road trip with the bros, and having a female character. would probably change that.

  • Robert Kupper

    Really not sure how I feel about the roadtrip thing. I hope they mix things up a bit, that the game has some urgency and dramatic tension, not just bros checking out the countryside.

    I am not going to pass judgement yet, it just feels like its going to be hard to portray the themes they were talking about before (Political struggle, depleted resources, war) with a roadtrip.

    • Shuryou

      Political struggle: “I call shotgun!” “Nuh-uh, I already did!”
      Depleted resources: “Dudes, we’re all out of gas. We need to find a station.”
      War: “Let’s use the car in battles!” “Give this guy a raise!”

      • 古戸ヱリカ

        “You used the car in battles?! Guys, my dad’s gonna KILL me!”

      • Kuromadou

        “Dude, where’s my car”

      • DesmaX

        Tension: “Oh my god, the BBQ stand isn’t on the trunk! We need to go back and find it!”

    • metonym00

      I kind of agree with you. Not sure how this vibe really fits in to an FF game at all. But they do have Tetsuya Nomura who was given full creative liberty, and the creator of Type-0, which I hear was very “mature” for an FF game. Hold our reservations until the demo?

    • I guess that’s part of my problem with everything we’ve seen of it too. Putting aside all male-cast; the image and tone and everything feels like it’s changed sharply the more we see of it. Sure, all of the designs are basically the same (character-wise), but everything else? It’s almost an entirely different game I feel. Even if it was so little released before, it still set up a fair bit.

      Now I feel like it’s Xenoblade meets. . . I don’t even know what. Not what I was thinking or imagining for it.

      • Robert Kupper

        yeah, I agree, the early stuff we saw had me far more excited. I feel like now every time they make an announcement its just “Well, this could still be what they showed before.”

        They could just be showing off a different side to the game, but if the feel is just what we have in this trailer, I don’t think I will be happy. If what we saw before is still there, then this could be a good thing, you can’t have a story that is always action and heavy drama, but you do need a driving conflict and something to keep the pace up.

        • Exactly.

          That’s true, and if this is just a different side, I certainly don’t mind that~. I suppose that just worries me though; are they showing this because it is different, they intend to focus on it more, or they’re just trying to generously show off how much the game has going on.

          Definitely true on that last part. vov

  • AuraGuyChris

    Feeling romance in the road trip…with only male characters…

    Gay option available?

    • J_Joestar

      Fujoshis will make one if they have to.

      • British_Otaku

        They will make some even if this only had gay options.

    • Kuromadou

      lets count on those comiket artists, they would make tons of it B-)

    • metonym00

      I’m pretty sure they mean romance in the traditional sense, as in “great adventure”. Not so much romance as in “love story”.

    • Funkadelic Delphox

      Let’s hope not

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Don’t start a fuss.

  • GreatKino

    Awesome!

  • Kuromadou

    meanwhile Gematsu articles says that “the party is STILL male characters only” ,which one is true !? they making me confused.

    • doubleO7

      This article also says the party will only have male characters also, so they’re both right.

  • At first I perceived the “no female playable characters” as not really not representative… Though Final Fantasy X-2 was an all female cast so I supposed it’s time (and only fair) to flip the script.

  • Pdugna

    Final Fantasy has had tons of female characters in their games and even all female casts such as X-2 so having a only male playable cast. It’s about fucking time.

    • Yes, so much yes right here. FF X-2 was all female, and while it was a sequel (and maybe not everyone’s favourite sequel) to a main FF game, that doesn’t change the fact that the party was totally female. What makes FFXV so different? At least, other than the fact that it’s a main FF game.

  • kylehyde

    The people need to chill out come on, they are not boys, not yet men, all they need is time, a moment that is theirs, while they’re in between

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlV7RhT6zHs

    • JustThisOne

      Damnit, Kyle. You always get me.

  • Kroz

    “and you won’t have to wait another five or
    ten years after the release of the demo, so don’t worry. Of course if
    it isn’t well-received, we’ll have to re-think things”

    In other words, “Don’t talk shit about the demo or we’re gonna try again on PS5”

  • Raspberry

    all male cast = my first main final fantasy that i will not play. oh well at least Tales are going strong.

    • Raztune

      lol you can’t be serious, grow up

      • Raspberry

        yes i’m dead serious, and i’m already grown up. It’s you who need to develop more if you can’t take opinions of others.

        • Ricewarrior

          That’s his opinion of your opinion.

          Then again, that’s my opinion.

        • Raztune

          The fact that you’re dismissing a potentially good game just because there’s no playable females shows your maturity level.

          • Manny Being Manny

            Oh boy, now we’re getting to the “If you don’t agree with me you’re immature” stage

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            Nah, there is a way to address yourself politely without sounding like some silly brat.

          • Extra Z-001

            It was a little bit… maybe the word is frank. But not that bad.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            I guess, I have nothing serious or foul to say to anyone :b

          • bob

            immature little kids complaining about the lack of fan-service in the game… ’cause lets be honest here, that’s what the majority of you guys are really mad about. Your pissed off ’cause SE isn’t giving you your boobs… boobs you were hoping to dress up in little school girl outfits when dlc for the game came out.

            FF XV is about a group of childhood guy friends going on a journey, and you guys want ’em to throw in a female cast in that clique of friends for what? diversity sake?? that’s the dumbest thing i’ve ever heard. But you say you want diversity, right? game already has diversity! There are main female characters in the game, they’re just not part of the clique of friends noctis grew up with….

            And funny how everyone’s only focused on the no female party member thing when noctis is the only playable character in the game. It’s like that part just goes over your heads and the only thing you guys can think about is “damnit, there’s no boobs in my group”…..

      • Manny Being Manny

        people said they wouldn’t play X-2 because of it being all girls, and I don’t remember all of the “Grow up, you’re shallow” etc comments for that. What makes an all male cast better than all female?

        • British_Otaku

          The question you propose isn’t the issue.

          Why should we care about whether it is a 100% male or 100% female cast? On the other hand…

          • Manny Being Manny

            Yeah, balanced cast would be the best. Every mainline FF game since 4 has had 3 or more female characters… not even having a single one here is just really offputting.

          • British_Otaku

            Is there a strong reason why it is no big deal that early games, sequels to mainline games (X2 gets mentioned a lot) and spinoffs can have a 100% male or female cast though?

            You can still have interesting character dynamics (I assume this is the point of the balanced cast argument, not to have some boys and some girls) regardless and they’ve probably proven that in the games I mentioned before.

        • Raztune

          Those people also need to grow up. It’s dumb as hell that people will dismiss a potential great game just because of its cast. I’ve played plenty of all female cast games which were really good.

        • Guillermo Oliva III

          You have to remember that FFX-2 ruined “Yuna” due to dramatic change of character. Also, they did that to please boy-fans by showing more skin and such. Moreover, it really could have taken a interesting turn for a sequal ,than what it is now. Above all, FFXV it is going to have a more serious story ,than some tragic love lost girl that is going to upstage to sing her heart out and fight against “death” for one person……

      • Extra Z-001

        There’s nothing immature about preferring not to play games with an all female cast.

        And I do think it’s good that Tales games have a lot of gender diversity.

    • KoRLumen

      What’s wrong with an all-male cast?

      • Extra Z-001

        Some people don’t particularly care for it.

        • KoRLumen

          Fair enough. Personally, I’d like a playable female as well, but I can’t justify passing up everything else about the game just because there isn’t one.

    • Guillermo Oliva III

      Nah, it is a childesh opinion and being picky about “all male cast” is just stating that you prefer being around a “pussy”. Also, you could have stated your comment and directed your attitude in a complete different manner without sounding like a over-grown brat.

      • Raspberry

        No, i just prefer diversified cast of characters of all genders that every main final fantasy delivered, except this one. And nothing in my og message was even remotely brattish. I was stating my opinion on direction of the game and my intention of voting with my wallet . And here you are with insults when i didn’t insult anyone. Who is childish now ?

        • Guillermo Oliva III

          You still sounded childesh and like I said, if what you typed is true, then why did you not elaborate yourself on your first comment? your first comment sounds really picky and quick to dislike something from first-look ,than actually stating a more thoroughl manner about it.

          • Raspberry

            Because it’s unnecessary. i will not change mind of anyone so simple statement of not buying and praise for rival series is enough. And how about instead of insulting people on internet you just chill and deal with it ?

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            It is unnecessary? I am chilled and it seems you are the one that is not chilled by being picky about the “all-male cast”. Also, this is not about buying or praise over a franchise and it is easy for you state that ,since all your probably think about is “what you want” ,although…. you cant have it all.

          • Raspberry

            When i’m dropping 60 bucks on something it’s better be exactly what i want, and i don’t care about others because it’s my money. If it’s not what i want, why i have to eat it up and stay silent ? I’ve bought every main Final Fantasy before so it’s a series’s customer feedback.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            It seems you are not really seeing the point of what I am trying to discuss to you about and you really think that I am telling you to “Buy FFXV, give it a chance”? I do not care if you purchase the product or not, you should just chill out on how you express yourself about how you look at things. Moreover, if you bought every main Final Fantasy before ,then what is wrong with this one? why over 8 years… you choose to complain about something small and trivial to the series?

          • M’iau M’iaut

            @disqus_PA8VP9erc0:disqus Both have expressed their concerns. What is small and trivial to one is not small and trivial to the other (both ways).

            Please shake and move on. Thanks.

          • Raspberry

            Because it’s my preference i like final fantasy with diversified cast of both genders. For me it’s a big deal in a game, you don’t have to agree and i don’t really care. My reasons are mine and unlike you i don’t try to force myself on anyone with my opinions.

      • Calling someone’s opinion childish, just because they prefer a more diverse cast, is not okay and is fairly personal. Be more considerate and careful when you discuss this.

    • EverEndingStory

      Why aren’t you going to play it? What is your issue with an all male cast, if I may ask?

      • M’iau M’iaut

        Please read the rest of the thread below here. The poster does discuss their concerns.

      • Raspberry

        I like my FF with a cast of both female and male characters, i just do. This is FF i got used to and i don’t really see point in rewarding devs. with my hard earned money for a change that i don’t like. I didn’t buy X-2 ether.

        • EverEndingStory

          Why don’t you the like the change? What exactly about a single-gendered team/cast puts you off?

          In regards to FF X-2, was it specifically the all female cast, or the specific representation of that group? If the former, does this disinclination in single-gendered teams/casts extend to other RPGs/games?

          Do you feel the same about other stories/works of art with single-gendered teams/casts. For example: Free! or Haikyuu!! (or really any sports anime – assuming you watch them), Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter (again, assuming you know any of the examples I can think of).

          I hope I’m not annoying, or come off as ill-inclined in anyway. I just wanted to understand the point of view of someone with a different opinion then mine.

          • Ya know, YYH and HxH only partially fit in that grouping. Free! much more because Gou isn’t a swimmer and the show is obvious about who the main-central cast are and their purpose, but YYH and HxH are less restrictive in those terms.

            Even with Yusuke and the other three/Gon and Killua as MCs, we still get chances to have ladies – and other guys – as main characters. That won’t happen here.

          • EverEndingStory

            True. But the main four are male in both. While there are powerful female characters in each, especially HxH, the only female fighter you can say is a main (major supporting) good guy is the mentor (Genki and Biski).

            My line of thinking is this – if, for example, Yu Yu Hakusho were adapted into a party-based RPG adapting the storyline of the manga, I wouldn’t be surprised at all (and I don’t think anyone could reasonable raise offense) if your party consisted solely of Yusuke, Kuwabara, Hiei, and Kurama – in a sense, then, replicating the single gender-dynamic of FF15 here.

            There’d still be female characters in the game of course – strong ones too. But they wouldn’t be consistent party members (if party members at all). At best, they’d be temporary “guest” party members.

            Likewise, at least from the early trailers (assuming they didn’t change things), there are at least two female characters in FF15 that engage in open combat.

          • And what I like about YYH is, even though the girls aren’t fighters, nor is Koenma and all of them get to be incredibly important. HxH also has a lot more female characters that get to be important later. YYH is more played straight in that way, but HxH less so (given it’s mostly Killua and Gon, and then even Gon was ditched for a short while and now Killua is).

            In comparison, I don’t think the female characters in this will really get that much screentime, even in the background. And the trailers have also emphasized Stella less and less as time has gone by, I think.

            I won’t mind as much if they still get to be prominent and cool, but right now it’s looking like there’s so much emphasis on a huge cast that is very predominantly male, I can’t see how Stella and Luna(?) are going to get exposure equal to what the female characters do in the works we discussed.

          • EverEndingStory

            That’s true. Like, I was even going to mention Kuwabara’s sister in YYH, but she doesn’t fight. But she’s still a powerful character. Or HxH with people like Neferpitou, Komugi, and Alluka.

            We can only hope that the supporting female characters in FF15 get there time in the spotlight.

          • Komugi. vuv/TTuTT
            But yeah, especially ladies like them~.

            Indeed.

        • EverEndingStory

          Why don’t you the like the change? What exactly about a single-gendered team/cast puts you off?

          In regards to FF X-2, was it specifically the all female cast, or the specific representation of that group? If the former, does this disinclination in single-gendered teams/casts extend to other RPGs/games?

          Do you feel the same about other stories/works of art with single-gendered teams/casts. For example: Free! or Haikyuu!! (or really any sports anime – assuming you watch them), Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter (again, assuming you know any of the examples I can think of).

          I hope I’m not annoying, or come off as ill-inclined in anyway. I just wanted to understand the point of view of someone with a different opinion then mine.

          • Raspberry

            I don’t like this change because for me FF cast is particular gathering of different people and genders, it always worked for me and i like the format. Any deviation from that is not Final Fantasy for me and i don’t want to play it.
            i’m ok with other series/works because they don’t have long standing tradition.
            I would be ok with XV if it’s stayed as a spinoff, i would juts moved along but i can’t have such cast composition in main FF series.

  • Adrian Duran

    this FF seems more carefree compared to the other titles

  • Altritter

    Cannot believe people won’t even play the game just because the only playable characters are male, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

    • It’s sad, especially since we already get so many Japanese games where there’s only female characters that are playable (Hyperdimension Neptunia, Monster Monpiece and the Senran Kagura series come to mind).

    • Godmars

      I have more issues with the game than it just being a sausage feast.

      Also, it shouldn’t matter to you whether or not others like or even buy the game.

      It likely will if it does poorly and Square decides to end the franchise, that if such happens it will because they’ve forgotten how to appeal to fans much less a general audience, but right now with this game none of that should matter to you.

      As for me, I’ve had it. Bios con dios amigo…

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Dude, quit saying “Sausage fest” where does that even state or prove about FFXV? seriously, you need to chill out and wait till its release.

        • Godmars

          Just a term. One I could not care less about.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            Then, stop it and if you did “care less” you would not be typing like a maniac by trying to prove some point about “FFXV”.

          • Godmars

            I could care less about using the term. What I care about – what I “cared” about – was a game that looks to be more spectacle than story, just like FF13. Which featured a female cast and a few beards.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            Things change and this is a new series that is finally coming out for 8-years….. So, why does it matter if its all male cast? let that be and who knows if these dudes are pretty slick and cool.

    • Loco4Divas

      I’m a little bummed for the lack of female characters but I’m still going to play FFXV regardless :)

    • Slater

      Eh no worries, The hype for XV so incredibly out-ways those complaints that when it’s released you can bet PLENTY of the people who complained will still get it.

      • Manny Being Manny

        The hype? You mean for a series that has sold even less than Tales in recent Japanese releases?

        The days of FF being super hyped are over. Its not even beating out Persona 5 in Japanese most hyped game polls

        • Slater

          3 million views on the latest trailer. Yeah i’d say it has peoples interest. The series overall has definitely suffered in reputation but people are still incredibly exited for XV.

          Persona 5 is also a game with a definitive release window, it’s much easier to be eager for a game you know is coming out soon.

          As for FF overall? Well we already know Type 0 is a fantastic game and when it releases that’ll put some faith in maybe not square itself but defiantly its director and sense he is also now directing XV (which will finally be getting a demo of at the same time) that’ll also increase the hype for it.

        • MaidKillua

          Well while I am a big fan of Persona it DOES heavily pander to the Japanese fascination with everything highschool related. And the main character always has a harem.

          Not sure about Tales though, only played Vesperia. But the low hype for FF is probably just because of 13 mostly, people are still skeptical. When you see Persona you know you’re gonna get a good game with way too much harem and school stuff

  • Ric Vazquez

    Somehow I can just sense feminists making about big deal of this soon…

    • Loco4Divas

      Educate yourself bro, feminism is not about hating men.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        these neo-feminist that are joinning the train and don’t know a single thing about the true feminism sure are.

        • Extra Z-001

          To be honest, a lot of the things that a lot of the so called “extreme feminists” who don’t like gender roles or say things like that rape culture is a problem, and not very different from early feminists like Simone de Beauvoir.

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            Yes. but there is still a huge difference between the neo-feminist that I spoked about and many other feminists who you can actually talk about without getting a stupid sentence with extreme points and hate that we see today. Also many of the neo-feminist that i have don’t know who Simone de Beauvoir is. I approve the fight for equality that feminism want, however I can’t stand the growing numbers of ignorant and radical members that had been joining the cause lately.

          • Lol, that goes for a lot of us!

            Feminism is like any other culture/group/something people are a part of. Since its beginning, it had its problems (racism, etc) and some are still plenty rampant. Eventually, it will have to outgrow and overcome them or just . . .well, there’s a lot of things that can happen.

            A lot of people forget though that it comes down to it being made of people. People, that have varying ideals, opinions and feelings and backgrounds (all of which will influence the type of feminist they are).

            I wish feminism would grow up faster, but I’m also disappointed that there are people that use its own reality to act like feminism is the/their problem (rather than, obviously, patriarchy). Or act like feminism itself doesn’t have a good goal. We should be able to separate a diverse group that isn’t a monolith from some of its bad apples.

            Then again, gamer culture is also growing and I guess when two groups that are still “young” come together, their youth (and immaturity) start to show. ^u^;

          • Ni ~Algidus~

            >Then again, gamer culture is also growing and I guess when two groups that are still “young” come together, their youth (and immaturity) start to show. ^u^;

            pretty much. I was talking with my Geopolitics professor and we ended up saying almost the same thing as you when some HS boys feminism and gaming stuff. We hope that the worst don’t happen in the future with both groups.

          • I know. vnv

            In a lot of ways, I’m seeing incredible improvement, especially shared between them. But there are definitely some forces that are railing back hard, and I don’t want things to get uglier.

      • Ric Vazquez

        It’s sarcasm, obviously you need to get a sense of humor ;)

        • Loco4Divas

          I have a sense of humor thank you but a lot of ppl talk shit about feminism because they only think about the bad apples. “Somehow I can just sense feminists making about big deal of this soon..” Did not sound positive. So it was easy to assume you thought negatively of feminism. A lot of men and women sadly group the different ideas of feminism as the one thing. I apologize for my comment though.

          • Ric Vazquez

            Sorry, misunderstandings can happen, no I do not think negatively of feminism. but there are some people that take it to the extreme, for example, someone once said that the world would be a better place if all men would just die, as someone who encourages equality it does not sit right with me. Have a nice day.

          • Guest

            Agreed :) I’m fine with FFXV’s story and its characters. But just reading some of the comments about sex and gender on here starting making my blood boil lol But now I’m looking forward to the development of FFXV after seeing these memes posted earlier haha :D

          • Loco4Divas

            Agreed :) I’m fine with FFXV’s story and its characters. But just reading some of the comments about sex and gender on here starting making my blood boil lol But now I’m looking forward to the development of FFXV after seeing these memes posted earlier haha :D

          • Ric Vazquez

            LOL!

    • epy

      It would be quite ironic seeing as the game is pandering to a female audience.

      • Manny Being Manny

        I think a lot of Westeners don’t really understand the difference in how all the feminism stuff is viewed in Japan. Generally women are more interested in playing games with guys over there, they don’t think of the whole “The man is putting me down!” aspect that Western feminists do.

        • British_Otaku

          It isn’t too different to Twilight or Fifty Shades of Gray/Grey (I don’t care)… Wait am I comparing those two to this game? I should stop but…

          Anyway, those books and movies also have a huge female following regardless of how Bella Swan and whatever Ms Grey/Gray does or is treated.

          The west and Japan don’t seem divided but different subsets of culture are examining and enjoying different media.

          • Manny Being Manny

            I think Twilight is a good comparison, honestly. Final Fantasy always has been and likely always will be aimed at teen audiences… the average gamer age is just a lot younger in Japan. So the kinda teen girls who are into Twilight will likely be the same kinds of girls in Japan who squeal and go crazy over all the bishounen guys in this game.

    • Extra Z-001

      Oh dear~.

      Probably a slight criticism like in most cases. The much bigger deal is the outrage people make over feminists.

      • Ric Vazquez

        True, people can sometimes take things too personal.

      • True this.
        Even before feminists come around, there’s outrage over what they *might* say. x’D

  • Loco4Divas

    Since now we know that this game will only have male playable characters. I’m hoping FFXV has strong homoerotic/gay undertones throughout the story. Looking forward to this game now :)

  • TheRealMalek

    It’s fun that was the exact phrase i said when i saw the trailer, and that was the exact reason why i won’t play it.

    Sorry i don’t see “guy raod trip” as a “cool” thing, most of movies that are on this subject are either : bad or boring.

    • Guillermo Oliva III

      Everyone has different taste and “guy road trip” has been done and nothing stupid happens ,unless you allow your silly hormones get the best of you.

      • TheRealMalek

        Please give me a good example of guy road trip then.

        • M’iau M’iaut

          Most Seth Rogen movies. And Simon Pegg’s stuff. They may be things that you find bad or boring, but plenty of others don’t. And they certainly express the ideas that many would consider part of a guy road trip.

          • TheRealMalek

            Which one of Seth rogen is a guy only road trip ? can’t even see one…

            And simon’s Pegg stuff is mostly silly / funny so, sorry i don’t see it as a good example.

            What i’m thinking for a good “road trip” (notice no “GUY only”) is for example telma and louise. Inb fact i think i had found one : rain man.

  • delmar

    I look at this as being a huge positive change from how they usually have the cast. No more annoying teen character archatype since they have done since VI(rikku, yuffie, ekio, selphie, relm, vanille, penelo). And the idea of a rode trip is interesting, it’s going to be based i assume on more person reactions to each location vs. the lets buy new equipment and leave like in previous titles. It’s kinda of the same concept of all I-IX that had the illusion of an open world but you were traveling on foot before you found the airship.

  • Theob Vious Choice

    Hell, as disappointing as this is that there are no female characters, I’d still play this over any post-PS2 FF game if it at least had dual audio. I’d rather play a game with only dudes with the original voices than a game with females with horrible sounding voice actors. That’s just me, lucky to anyone who disagrees because chances are pretty much 99.9% that this won’t have dual audio, so you can have your cake and eat it too, I just won’t bother.

    Actually, even if this was only English acting I’d probably play it, since it’s usually the female characters who have the terrible acting.

    • Manny Being Manny

      Type-0 and Lightning Returns have dual audio, so I’d say its a safe bet this will too.

      • Theob Vious Choice

        That’d be nice, it’d take a lot of disc space these days to put another audio track that’s for sure.

    • Lastlight

      “Actually, even if this was only English acting I’d probably play it, since it’s usually the female characters who have the terrible acting.”

      THANK YOU
      I personally cannot stand the female VAs in Japanese dub

  • Funkadelic Delphox

    Final Fantasy meets the Warriors. i like it

  • Aroc23

    It would be worse if they just tried to shoe-horn a token female character into the group just to appease people. If it doesn’t fit the narrative, don’t do it.

  • Addy

    Extremely disappointing.

  • KoRLumen

    I’m in favour of the all-male cast. I think by “friendship,” they really mean “brotherhood,” which is something that can’t really be conveyed if there was a female character in the party. It’s a bond that goes deeper than friendship, but it isn’t romance. And I think that’s awesome.

    • Addy

      Men and women can’t have something deeper than friendship that isn’t romance? That’s some foolishness.

      • Vallen

        No he’s right. Beyond friendship is brotherhood for men and romance for women

        • Addy

          No, that’s just stupidity.

          • Vallen

            okay there buddy

          • Addy

            SO what if a lesbian and a man are close? Tell me that, then.

          • KoRLumen

            So you want them to insert a lesbian character for the sake of a platonic relationship, so as to emulate “brotherhood” between opposite sexes?

            Again, that’s not the story they want to tell.

          • Addy

            Please read the comment I responded to and sit down. “No he’s right. Beyond friendship is brotherhood for men and romance for women”. Reread what he said and reread my response.

          • KoRLumen

            Fair enough. With that context, you aren’t wrong.

        • #Brosb4hos

      • KoRLumen

        Of course they can, but that isn’t the story that they want to tell.

        • Addy

          You literally just said the opposite. There could very well be a female in the group and the story could be the exact same. You’re acting like there would have to be some big subplot because le gasp! A WOMAN! But no. The sex of a party member would not alter the story so dramatically it’d ruin their vision.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            It would change things if the author, writer, creator has chosen to write a tale about a group of good male pals out doing their thing. The audience can choose to accept playing that tale or not.

          • Addy

            But why make it good male pals? What is so different about good pals and good male pals unless you purposely make it different?

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Its not about what would or would not be different. It is that these creators have the same right that I have when I write a story or you do when you pen one. To tell the tale they wish to. Their choices; our choices to buy or not.

            Not anything we need to argue about.

          • KoRLumen

            “What is so different about good pals and good male pals unless you purposely make it different?” Right back at you. Why does there need to be a female member?

          • Addy

            Diversity. It’s cool. Which Final Fantasy has a good record of. I’m less salty with Square, more salty with the stupid reasoning everyone is using =)

          • M’iau M’iaut

            @korlumen:disqus Let’s keep things on the topic of the game now folks. We’ve had plenty of time to get to this point.

          • KoRLumen

            K. Sorry lol.

          • Slater

            Honestly, most people just want a good game, once it actually comes out this whole argument will wither and die.

          • I was considering X-2 myself when thinking about this, and I guess there’s still the fact that even the all-female cast only went partial with its girl power theme. I think the concept was exciting because omg magical girl FF! But we still got some fanservice going on (even in their main outfits) and that’s disappointing. But is that happening to these guys? Effectively, all-female cast is partially for guys and all guys is also for guys. It’s kind of flawed in their aim and concept.

          • KoRLumen

            No, I didn’t. I never said “Men and women can’t have something deeper than friendship that isn’t romance.” By “It’s a bond that goes deeper than friendship, but it isn’t romance”, I was explicitly referring to the idea of brotherhood.

            It’s not something so dramatic as a sub-plot, or something like that. It’s the vibe. It already isn’t a brotherhood if there’s a woman.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            “Contradict”

    • Loco4Divas

      Dude that stupid. People of the opposite sex and gender can have deeper friendships equal to brotherhood and sisterhood.

      • KoRLumen

        For the purposes of keeping it simple, an all-male cast works far better, and makes more sense, than having a party with completely platonic interrelationships. Of course opposite sexes can have a deeper-than-friendship relationship, but the notion of “brotherhood” or “sisterhood” is much more clearly felt when the cast is all of the same sex.

        Why insert a female character for the sake of representing a demographic? That isn’t the story they want to tell.

        • Loco4Divas

          I think that’s the problem, its how we have been conditioned by media and entertainment. That interactions between a main male character and a main female character could only be romantic/platonic. The idea that if a woman is involve in a story, her only purpose is to be a romantic interest for the male protagonist. I wish we had way more stories without romance, that guys and girls can just be friends or just enemies. I’m fine with FFXV and its choice of characters. But its about friendship/brotherhood, then I hope Stella becomes a full antagonist in the story like planned because I don’t want her to be a just another love interest to another story.

          • JustThisOne

            I don’t think that’s “the” problem here. It’s definitely “a” problem, in general, but from the way Lumen writes, I don’t feel like he thinks interactions between a male and female protagonist must be romantic.

            He’s just saying that it’s a different overall feeling, and that it may be the exact feeling that the devs are trying to bring out.

            Also, you might want to give The Last Remnant a shot. *__* It’s not the best game ever, but it has a very interesting supporting female character. Also, the main heroine is the protagonist’s sister. Not really any romance in the over all plot.

      • I don’t think he’s saying a deep friendship between male and female is imposible, just that a friendship between bros is different, it has a unique taste to it me thinks.

        • KoRLumen

          Pretty much. It’s not a complex concept, and it’s not like I’m saying something similar can’t exist if there was a female member in the party.

          However.

          That’s my point. It would be something similar, but it wouldn’t be “brotherhood.” And that’s not the story they want to tell us.

      • That’s my problem with this. It’s like if they include a female character, they can’t fathom the concept of her having a deep friendship with them (without it becoming romantic). That’s worrisome because it means they’re a little weak in imagination/creativity.

        • JustThisOne

          Well, not really. It’s just… there would be a different sense of camaraderie then. It’s like… Stand By Me wouldn’t really feel the same if one of the four was a girl. That’s not to say it wouldn’t have been a good movie, it just would have been a different one. Or Lord of the Rings would’ve felt very different if Sam was female, for example.

          It’s not that it wouldn’t have been intriguing; it’s just different from their vision.

          • Not necessarily. Even though I know what you mean, really, nothing would have to change. It only does if they go out of their way to really gender the characters. I can definitely see it changing the way things are in LotR though, but that’s because of the way Tolkien writes/treats women.

          • alixraen

            I’m not quite sold on that. It looks like you would like a female character in this game just for the sake of having one, and that’s not a good reason in and of itself.

            Friendships between guys and girls are inherently different. Not even implying that it must lead to something romantic if a guy and a girl are friends, but what would really change here if one of the guys was a girl, and literally nothing else? She would have the same personality, traits, etc. Diversity doesn’t mean anything if the characters themselves aren’t diverse. Changing only the gender of one of these characters isn’t going to magically make the cast diverse. It would be a cosmetic change, essentially.

          • Lol, of course I do! There’s no reason not to! Just like there’s no reason to really have all guys. Story and character-wise, there is never a good or bad reason to have all/mostly/any ratio of gender to a cast, no matter how a dev (or anyone else) tries to explain it.

            They’re not always. We’re taught that and it’s ingrained in us, but there really isn’t. In our group of friends, I’m more “like one of the guys” than my hubby is, but he’s known some of them longer so he does have a different relationship with some of them than I do.

            If that’s how you’re seeing diversity, you’re not seeing it as it fully is and should be. It would be incredibly diverse and unique (in terms of representation and storytelling) to include a female character, have her remain only a friend and platonic with everyone and allow her to not be written into gender norms or stereotypes. That is beyond diverse.

          • alixraen

            I guess if you’re going to say that there’s no reason for there not to be a female cast member, then why not make it all girls? What you’re saying here is extremely open-ended, and in the end it *is* up to what the dev wanted to do with the game, so it’s rather pointless to argue this one point maybe?

            I’m of the mind that guys and gals have more in common than in difference, so that situation where a female is just ‘one of the guys’ is truly believable to me. I guess I don’t look at it as diverse because it’s diverse from how a lot of females are represented in gaming, not in real life. It would be diversity by not being diverse at all, by being completely normal. And if that’s the case where guys and girls are essentially the same because they’re excluding gender norms, what’s really the difference between a male and female character at that point?

            That’s why I’m not really bothered by the lack of a female character here, because in that situation both genders would work equally well, essentially interchangable. They just wanted to make a game about a bunch of people who happened to be guys on a road trip, and that’s completely fine with me.

          • I wouldn’t be opposed to that if they handled it right, but that isn’t really my point either.

            Okay, then. It’s fine with you, it’s partially fine with me. I don’t care for their approach, but like I said, not excited because of other aspects anyway~.

  • GameBruh

    Gotta respect Square’s decision to see their vision through. They wanted to tell a story where all the main characters are male and just went with it. I’d bet that the gender issue didn’t even come up until Square started engaging with western journos. Sometimes I envy Japanese culture.

  • epy

    Seeing as the FFXV “saga” will probably have like three installments or something, I can’t say I’m too worried. Part 2 or 3 (or 4?) will probably have all the serious business and (er…) female characters people want.

    • Noctis Was Dead But Now is Back: Final Fantasy XV!

    • delmar

      That’s what I was thinking. They are probably going to use the first game as a base for the next two or three installments. I would not be that surprised if in the next one you play as Stella… if she doesn’t die. This was supposed to be off of Shakespeare.

  • Vallen

    “At the moment, it feels like it’s at around 50 – 55%” WHAT!? I thought the game would be at least 75% done at this point…ugh…so I guess 2015 release is out of the question now :/

    • KoRLumen

      I think I read on Kotaku (or maybe it was here on Siliconera) that by 50-55% done, they mean… Well, it’s kinda like this:

      There’s a pre-Tabata phase and an after-Tabata phase (which is also the time when they switched platforms, I think?). So by 50-55%, they mean the 50-55% of the after-Tabata development.

      If that makes any sense lol

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    Sounds cool.

    Also, as I read the commnets, is there anything that Final Fantasy fans don’t fight about? :/

    • DesmaX

      No one talks about FF II

      • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

        You’re right. I almost forget that one exists! lol

      • Noor Mahmoud

        Which is a same, since it has some of the best music.

  • Loli Summoner

    Hope there’s yaoi LOL

    • Sylveria Shini

      Its the square enix fanbase, just try and stop them from making yaoi stuff.

    • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

      lol. I don’t get that vibe so far. Maybe they should just add a loli and call it a day.

      • Loli Summoner

        Oh yes!

    • Extra Z-001

      Wouldn’t mind that~.

    • Ferrick

      just check ebay after the game’s release and watch as yaoi stack up

      • British_Otaku

        ?

        I saw The Wonderful 101 stuff shortly after the E3 trailer, if people care about FFXV that much, it should have already begun somewhere.

        • Ferrick

          well it’s not as much as when the game’s released, like when ToX2 was released, several LudgerXJulius Yaois popped up everywhere

          • British_Otaku

            Of course. All it takes is tens of thousands of people to millions of people to be enjoying something and then there will be tons. Trailers is a little early for the deluge, sure.

  • Manny Being Manny

    Am I the only one who finds it kinda funny how lots of people are calling eachother immature for not playing this game for various reasons, while Final Fantasy games themselves are always aimed at teens? Shouldn’t most people here be immature for being interested in the game in the first place? I mean hell, lots of the info that has come out for recent Final Fantasy games was from Shonen Jump articles.

    • Ferrick

      what?

      • Manny Being Manny

        I’m saying this is a franchise aimed at people in their teens. I’m sure the majority of people here are probably older than 18, so they shouldn’t be calling other people immature when they’re playing a game aimed at 15 year olds

        • WooooooooooooooooooW

          you just generalized a lot of people as immature just because you “think” this game is aimed towards teenager.

          • Manny Being Manny

            Theres no “Think” about it. Every Final Fantasy manga has been serialized in shonen magazines, and like I mentioned, Jump themselves release a lot of articles about Final Fantasy news. Thats the main demographic.

          • British_Otaku

            Mature and immature are far too loose to be used in any argument here. For or against.

            Mature could imply that it has “mature content” which doesn’t necessarily make it a clever and interesting work. Immature can be poor use of mature elements.

            Forget people you argue with dozens of comments below and focus on their point. “Irrational” is the word I pick.

          • Too bad he generalized people as if it’s nothing :V

        • Loli Summoner

          I don’t think it’s aimed just for teens though,I would say 15 and up.

        • Ferrick

          What. The. Actual. Hell. Are. You. Talking. About?

          • Manny Being Manny

            You don’t really know the Japanese gaming industry, do you?

          • Ferrick

            knowledge of Japanese gaming industry has nothing to do with this

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Enough. Final Fantasy plays to a world audience like no other Japanese IP. They ain’t just playing to those who read Square mangas.

    • >> Shouldn’t most people here be immature for being interested in the game in the first place?
      >> I mean hell, lots of the info that has come out for recent Final Fantasy games was from Shonen Jump articles.

      Final Fantasy XV Shonen Jump

      What?

    • British_Otaku

      Okay, imagine I rewrote all of those mentions of “immature” to irrational.

      Can you see the case we are making now? Instead of hanging to a single word which can range from meaning “irrational” to “like a child”.

      • Manny Being Manny

        Irrational would make more sense in this case.

  • Guillermo Oliva III

    Ok, all of you “all-male character” haters are ridiculous down there and “opinions & statement” are just a bunch of nonsense to listen too(Yes, I know what I am stating is my statement too),but I am not going to call this game “shit” or “trash” because it is finally making its release over 8 YEARS!, therefor….. I am going to buy it and see how the game turns out at the end of the story as I experience the gameplay and whatever features that sums up. Over all, Final Fantasy XIII was deserving “shit” because how linear the beginning of the game is and how cheesy/cliche the story-line and characters personality/names are….. ok, that was said from people because people are played FFXIII ,but has the game came out? no. the male-cast can turn out to be cool like cloud, squall, locke, balthier, Vincent, Kain, Setzer, Auron, ….. so, enough with the silly all-male cast.

    • Extra Z-001

      That’s a bit of a generalization. Different people have different reasons for liking male and female characters.

      But it is true that too many games with an all female cast are more fanservice-y. Things are more than just black and white. For instance, this is a little bit of an influence on Pretty Cure, which is primarily made for girls and is about heroic Magical Girls, a lot like Sailor Moon.

      But most Magical Girl shows for girls, sadly have very few men who watch them. Despite being focused on many female protagonists.

      Not all shows with an all female cast are fanservice for men. And not all shows with an all male cast are fanservice for women. Many of the shows with an all female cast are actually designed to appeal to women. And many of the shows with an all male cast are designs to appeal to men.

      You’re getting a little bit insulting and generalizing.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Sailor Moon is an original (what is wrong with you? I LOVE SAILOR MOON …… I mean, look at my fb avatar pic? jeez) and maybe, I did not specify clearly about “all-girl” stuff ,but there are some presentation within game-industry that does something to annoy me for their $$$ solving is by using female-characters “sex-appeal” to flash, body-movement, and do whatever they could to attract male customers and use that as a sick tactic. OVer all, I am sorry if I sounded to generalizing and I did not mean to make myself sound like a jerk ,but you have to admit that it is annoying that they would do something cheap and gross to use “sex-appeal” in that manner for $$$ >:/

    • Sylveria Shini

      Duke Nukem Forever syndrome. “its comming out omg finally” is not necessarily good enough.

      I’ve seen square enix’s writing over the past console generation, it is not good enough to make a bunch of bros on a roadtrip anything but obnoxious.Not that I think they have the capacity to write decent female characters either, unless emotionless cardboard cutouts or giggling onomatopoeia machines qualifies as good writing.

      Maybe I’ll be wrong, I hope I am. But I was hoping to be proven wrong about all my fears and concerns about 13-3 before it came out, and not only was I right, it was worse than I expected.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Well, without Hironobu Sakaguchi ….. that real “magic” that made Final Fantasy wonderful is what the series I up to X so fantastic to the audiance.

    • Lets relax a bit, okay? I don’t know about past 200 comments down, but the more recent comments have been very fair. Lets face it, there’s going to be people on both sides with all kinds of temperments, and singling out a side is not helping or okay.

      If you’re happy with the route they’re going, then that’s okay! Guess what? You still get to enjoy the game. And you should enjoy the news on this article instead of getting caught up on particular comments. Enjoy XV~.

      So again, lets not get personal with the attacks, and if you can discuss it calmly then do so, but if not, then avoid comments that are going to rile you up.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        I suppose, it is odd to witness stupidity and childesh remarks from people that has no clue what it takes to make a “video game” now in days . . . . . and what do we know behind the scenes with SE? they forget that Hironobu Sakaguchi is no longer responsible for continuing the series and yet, some people speak full of themselves without noticing “who is the one directing it?” “who is the writer?” I mean, watching interviews about the development team or whoever is responsible for making the game is one way to state the obvious a lot better ,than stating foul stupidity about it.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Excuse me, how am I being too personal? every user down there are commenting ridiculous about “all-male characters”. So, why dont you tell them calmly to control their language? aggravating personal side-notes that does not relate to this game? seriously, you tell me that I need to relax like if I have stated something loud and irritating, since I am just stating the obvious about most of the comments down there.

        • What the? Did you really? x’D;
          This is days old now. You can let it die.

          You were too personal when you were calling people’s comments and opinions stupid, etc. That much should be obvious. You were already warned earlier, and then you went and made a comment off-topic just to condescend people you don’t agree with.

          In the future, if you make separate comments like this, stick to talking about the games and try not to let some of your comments get so personal. If you go back through what you put across the whole thread, you’ll find them. Even when people weren’t against the game, you got defensive, hence why I said to relax.

          Next time, just leave the article for a while if you notice yourself getting too hyped over people’s opinions and also try to let old comments go. (It’s been 15 days. ^u^;)

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            Err, I was not able to see this until now ….. and sure, I do dislike seeing unnecessary opinions about the game ,but I do disagree bullying with other people that are not aware of others knowing within the subject or not being able to acknowledge the fact about newcomers. Also, umm….. I am going to check if I need to update my browser. . . . . . . . thanks for the warning, please do not allow bullying too much or foul language, out of control that no longer involves with games. -bow-

          • Lol, that’s okay.

            And I understand. Believe me, I see a lot of stuff I disagree with on Siliconera. Sometimes, people actually really piss me off on here. ^u^;

            But I know this isn’t a place where we can just start fights or provoke each other, and I really appreciate that actually so I hold myself back. If I can respond politely and intelligently – I will. If I can’t, I just move on (which is very hard sometimes lol).

            Thank you for a civil response for understanding~.

    • M’iau M’iaut

      We have given you a lot of chance to discuss with folks. This is throwing grenades when none are necessary.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Who is “We”? elaborate yourself first.

      • Guillermo Oliva III

        Remember, I await for your reply now and I am capable to wish whatever I desire through sheer-will “M’iau M’iaut”.

        • M’iau M’iaut

          At the time was just trying to manage several threads lraving the topic. And noting that we weren’t just deleting such.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            If you are someone with keen management for this site to keep the threads at ease with no foul arguement or strange behaviour between many conversation. Then, good luck and keep up with it ,since you are going to need it along the day ahead of you. Also, delete my stange argument comments if you want . . . . . I do not care if you do.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            The team takes the managing seriously. I just prefer to make clear who we are. I deleted what needed to be and kept open the rest.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            Ok, do you mind telling “MaximDualBlade” to mind about his or her discussion with me ,since it has nothing involve about the FFXV or team development about it and instead, this person is telling me about “being homophobic or homosexuals hate women” which is . . . odd.

          • Guillermo Oliva III

            If your team takes managing seriously, then why dont you take it more serious ,than letting silly comments continue further? ,especially that they end up not making any sense or start off terrible in a ridiculous manner? or those that likes to mouth off in such rude manners? please be aware of your position and take it serious as you just said.

  • FFmax

    I think the reason this is getting so many people riled up is that this is a mainline FF. If they kept this the spin off it was supposed to be, there wouldn’t be any problem. Final Fantasy is known for having a diverse cast, and having 4 dudes from the same setting with similar clothing and stuff just doesn’t do it for fans and for me. I mean I’m not gonna knock their decision, but this is going to cause a even further rift between the fanbase.

    • Sydney Losstarot

      Yeah, I agree. FFVIII had a well balanced cast of Males and Females and they had car rentals, so I keep thinking of that when I see this game. FFXV seems like a great game graphics, gameplay, and music wise but, I think I am going to not like the story because it might be just as preachy, superficial, humorless, and have dynamic-less characters always singing a monotonous tune like in Final Fantasy XIII.

  • NyaBoy

    Finally a Final Fantasy team without weaks or stupids girls !

  • Perro

    “The party will only have male characters,” replies Tabata, “

    “You’ll feel the romance of going on a trip, and such,” Tabata says.

    Before they overcome the battlefield, they must overcome themselves

    http://www.ff-xiii.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-423.jpg

    • Guillermo Oliva III

      Omg…. are you homophobic?

      • Perro

        I was pointing out that they have to overcome the struggles of manhood together, as one.

        Some homosexuality may ensue, but I ain’t hatin’!

        • Guillermo Oliva III

          Ohh~ I thought you were XD (I was liike, “DAMN, is he analyzing like some gay-radar freak to make sure he does not go over-board about every little detail)

        • Guillermo Oliva III

          I am sorry and who knows, the game has not come out ,yet and I am happy it is finally showing trailers, gameplay footage, and other sneak-peeks :3

  • Shady Shariest

    This seems interesting. It appears that the long development cycle has caused some interesting changes from the previous mainline FF-games.

  • Lol, to read the comments or not read the comments.

    I just feel it’s a bit tacky~. There’s no reason to not have a playable gal, and my worry is that they would want to make her a love interest which speaks to a problem of creativity/imagination of its own.

    But, if they can make another main, numbered-not-sequel FF and have it be an all playable, female cast (and not have romance play a central role unless in the same vein as here) and don’t devolve them into fanservice (design-wise or personality-wise) then I won’t complain about this either~.

    I’m not too disappointed though since I’m not very excited for this entry. ^u^;

    • British_Otaku

      I hear X2 had a fully female cast and I know for sure that Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns Thrice did the same, not to say that I don’t invite a main, numbered-not-sequel FF having it but what difference does it make exactly?

      I argue that that if they come to the conclusion not to have a playable gal, there is no reason to have one. I’m jumping ahead and assuming that they have a good reason for everything but that was the case with Lightning Returns at the very least. She was the god of time or something and had to save the world in three days… Umm yeah.

      • Loco4Divas

        Could you even count Lightning Returns as a game with an all female cast? Lightning was the only playable character in that game. We have had other Final Fantasy games in the past with only one playable character like FFVII Dirge of Cerberus and FFVII Crisis Core. I think X2 should be counted as the only game in series to have a cast of only female playable characters.

        • Shady Shariest

          The argument could be condensed to the talk being about characters. In plural.

          • Loco4Divas

            ok makes sense

          • Shady Shariest

            Without any harsh meaning or anything like that. Just a stray thought.

        • British_Otaku

          Why not? It seems pretty petty to exclude it based on not having two female characters when ultimately it has 100% female option/s.

          I know nothing about X2, but if it doesn’t have 5 playable characters (which seems to be the average), I think I may arbitrarily exclude it like you excluded Lightning Returns. >_> *Googles* Seems I have a case here.

          The important things if we are measuring whether a game has male or female playable character options are: Determining gender (pretty straightforward from what I hear) and determining how playable a character is (presumably everyone available for the “bulk” of the game counts).

          Personally, I would say The Last of Us (never played it) based on my knowledge if 50/50 regardless of how short winter and the DLC may be. That and even if Ellie wasn’t playable (and you didn’t have the option to create characters for online), she has a lot of focus to the point that you can’t really ignore her regardless.

      • That was the one I referenced when mentioning what they should do with one next~. I wouldn’t count Lightning Returns though. The difference for me would be what it does for story, world and characters.

        Just knowing game devs and particularly SE, I don’t think there’s a “good” reason. They have one, but it probably doesn’t justify excluding a female. But they can do as they please, lol.

        • They might just want to experiment with a boys story this time, wouldn’t that be a good enough reason? Would actually be the first time they go full boys club, guess it would only be fair since X-2 was full girl power club.

          • Yeah, and that’s true. I really wouldn’t mind if it was majority male and you got to switch out at least. But again, my thing is the guys get to have their journey and it’s their’s. When the girls do, a portion of their journey has to be dedicated to fanservice (and it’s always sequels).

          • Well if you think about it this game was planned to be a spin off/kinda sequel and Im sure some of the choices made for this game were thought for female fanservice too.

        • British_Otaku

          I don’t know, they have had at least two major FF games (7 and 13 – remember I haven’t played any of em) with a black character in the gang, it doesn’t seem fair to call foul on every for not including that demographic when NPCs may still be interesting and there isn’t any damage done in not having a one missing (in fact, I hear that those protagonists weren’t the best but whatever)…

          “Good reason” was a more than a little vague… I’ll go with “artistic reason”, which is slightly more clear. They made a call on how they wanted to line up their cast, designed the project around those characters and relationships. What better reason do they need to have any kind of line up?

          • Honestly, it’s because FF has a pretty good track record (starting at V at least) that it’s more disappointing. But that just makes it more sad when there’s less diversity (as a whole) in a cast.

    • AndyLC

      >>There’s no reason to not have a playable gal

      Hajime Tabata’s work on Crisis Core gives me enough faith in his vision to pull off a game that focuses very heavily on brotherhood between men.

      Though it feels like if Tabata never mentioned it, nobody would be criticizing him for something they’re not aware of.

      • When you put it this way Im glad Tabata is taking over.

        In CC I really did feel that camaraderie feeling to it while in KH it can sometimes get ankward lol.

      • Hmm. I watched my friend play, so I don’t remember much, but was Zack the only playable character? If so, that’s more like LR and in its own category and is fair enough. But otherwise? That means they’ve also done an all male case before and so we’re back to 1-1 ratio, and I don’t think another all female cast will be that soon coming.

        But that is a fair assessment~. CC did look fun and all. ♥

  • kylehyde

    Wow I guess many people didn’t like that I used a britney spears video to make a joke and my comment was erased even that I didn’t complain about the all male playable possibility which many people is whinning about

    • M’iau M’iaut

      Retrieved.

  • MaidKillua

    How many times is the driver gonna have to threaten to turn around and take Noctis home for asking if they’re there yet?

    Ok but I really like this idea, it seems interesting and could allow for some really great character interactions.

    How long do you think before the posts bitching about how they need to add girls or make one of them gay start circulating on Tumblr though???

    This will be good as long as they’re all actually well written. If they’re as flat and generic as a typical Call of Duty cast then it’ll suck and the entire premise will have been wasted.

    Having some female characters would have been cool but honestly, I can’t remember the last game I played that had a male cast that was actually INTERESTING, so let’s just see if Square can manage it.

    • M’iau M’iaut

      That time has long past.

    • Loco4Divas

      hey we have 4 guys in this story, if there’s a chance one of them like guys I wouldn’t mind. It make the story just a little more interesting.

      • GreatKino

        Lol

    • JustThisOne

      Yeah, I’m kind of cool with this idea, too. The drive-thru/drive by photoshops that are spreading like wildfire should be a good indication. *__*

    • SlickRoach

      If it hasn’t started already I’d be surprised. Everyone’s disgruntled about the all male cast and I’m just sitting here like damn, this looks like it could be an epic bromance. 4 dudes just hitting the road together, for once I’m happy to see such a twist in the series formula.

  • SlickRoach

    I can already imagine how awesome side quests in this game will be.
    http://i.imgur.com/kSiMPu6.jpg

  • Loco4Divas

    Since a demo is coming out this March hopefully, when do y’all think will be a realistic release date for Japan is going to be? I think early 2016 hopefully for Japan with worldwide in the summer 2016

  • HerosLight

    I’m so glad this does not bother me at all.

  • triablos

    I don’t care, I just hope that whatever female characters there are don’t end up being one dimensional love interests.

    • That would be a larger and worse issue.

  • AndyLC

    So… is this the most commented Siliconera article ever or what?

    • SlickRoach

      Not sure but it’s picking up momentum pretty darn fast.

      • Lastlight

        717 comments……
        Is this a first??

    • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

      720 COMMENTS! I don’t remember one that big other than the OT.

  • StarkEx

    An all-male party doesn’t bother me at all (it’s not like we never see all-female parties like FFX-2), but I hope the “road-trip” feel they’re going for doesn’t hurt the story pacing or dumb down the characterization.

    There’s also the potential problem with a party of only four characters; if even one of them is a bad/annoying character, it’s a major blow to the entire cast. Hopefully they can avoid that.

    • GreatKino

      Road trips are all about bonding and such so I don’t think It’s gonna hurt the story.

      • StarkEx

        It can, although by no means I’m saying it will. SE could make one or all of these characters the worst kind of archetypes in this type of theme, or the emphasis on travelling could hurt the story pacing and depth if the story doesn’t have a proper focus in mind.

        It depends on how it is done.

        • GreatKino

          Yeah your right. I don’t think It’s gonna hurt the character development aspect at least tho.

  • Zak Ledward

    Usually I’m the one b*tching about lack of b*obs and whatnot in video games, but this time I’ll sit on the side and watch.

    Though they are few in number, there are times when I can REALLY get into male character bonding, but it has to be done RIGHT. Their small jokes/comedy is not what makes me like them, it’s when the sh*t hits the fan, they have a choice, and one of them gets up and says, “F*ck this sh*t, imma do something BAD ASS” and then turns OP mode on and wrecks face.

    If they can make me believe the male characters are bad ass, then I’ll be completely fine playing them for an entire game (At least Stella exists, can just wait for her scenes if the males are sh*t)

    I already know Noctis is OP though, so he’s in the green

    • HarakiriKami

      Why do they have to be badass? You think this is your fantasy zone or somethin’?

      They need to be human first of all. This is a nomura game after all.

      • Jadfish

        You forgot to add a smiley to signify that you were joking <3

        Of course its his fantasy zone. It's Final Fantasy.

        • HarakiriKami

          Nah man, I’m living in Bayonetta’s fantasy Zone.

          She too stronk. That woman so scary. Even ragyo cant handle her

      • Not anymore. It’s a Tabata game now, Nomura influence or no.

        • HarakiriKami

          That’s good, maybe the game will have enemies that actually respond when they get hit and a general click when your weapon connects with the enemy now.

          As long as it isnt piss easy and automated that’ll be great.

          But nomura still reigns kings :P

      • Zak Ledward

        Uh, I’m just saying the thing that makes me connect AT ALL with male characters is them being a badass. If not they don’t get any points with me.

        IDK what you’re getting at dood, who are you?

        • HarakiriKami

          The original Banchou Badass who learned being hard makes you cold on a little island in dystopian nippon. They call me the suicide god KNIFE CUTTA DESU,

          • Zak Ledward

            While I’d argue that Jisatsu and Harakiri are not the same thing, whatever.

  • Jirin

    Having an all male party is fine if the developers sincerely have an artistic vision which requires an all male party. It wouldn’t be okay if women were excluded for other reasons.

    In a truly equal world the gender breakdown of every game wouldn’t just split 50/50 down the middle. There’d be an equal number of all male casts and all female casts. If an artistic idea calls for all males you use all males, if an artistic idea calls for all females you use all females. I really hope that’s what this is a case of.

    And I really expect males to constitute the majority of people accusing it of sexism.

    A game with female characters who don’t pass the Bechdel test is worse than one with no female characters at all.

    • HarakiriKami

      Why is this even a serious conversation? What is with people today? Let folks make what they feel like making. If you dont like it? Tough shit. Ignore it. Make something yourself that you like when you get older. Lol.

      The people who want females in this game just want eye candy or just want to play as a women because its what they always do.

      Stop bringing social issues where they do not belong. Its damn weird. I swear, americans and their obsession with being “politically correct”. Ironically they’re also the most oblivious and disrespectful group of people I’ve ever met.

      • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

        Its sad really. So many people are scared to even state an opinion these days in my country unless it is the “proper” one; fearful of a repercussion, lawsuit, or threat of firing.

        • Jadfish

          You swedes have it that tough?

          • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

            No, I live in the great United States of America – land of the free, home of the brave, as long as it falls in line with the proper definition of it. Swedes have other issues to deal with like shortened sunlight.

      • VeniVidiVici

        Or or oooorrr….they want to play as females because they might be female? And they aren’t particularly interested in yaoi? And they love the FF Series because it has always been inclusive and fair with well-written female heroes and thus are a bit disappointed that an amazing looking entry to the series is going to be a sausage fest? That ever hit ya? Bet it didn’t.

        I understand where you’re coming from, social justice is something that’s going rampant these days. However, feminism isn’t the only reason women want female characters in games. Some of us simply want them because, hey, I better identify with a heroine. I want to be the hero too, and go on an epic adventure(road trip?), and fight giant adamantoise! But it’s hard to believe Im part of the adventure when my gender isn’t even allowed there as being playable! Kinda suspends my disbelief y’know. I mean, for women just playing for a good story, it shouldn’t be a problem. But for women who immerse themselves in games, and place themselves in the story, it’s just no Bueno.

        I don’t know if you care about what I said right now, but just a little insight on why some people may be upset at the situation And that it’s not just social justice for social justice sake.

        • Very well put.

          I think a lot of the people on Siliconera get so caught up in ~omg feminism!!~ that they forget that it doesn’t apply to everyone. Sometimes, women -feminist or not- just want to play a woman, and that’s a perfectly fair feeling.(Sometimes the guys also just want to play as a female and that’s also okay.)

        • HarakiriKami

          I already addressed that in my comment “Because they always played as females”

      • Extra Z-001

        Social issues belong everywhere. Video games and all media are reflective of social issues in some way.

        Not everyone wants to play games with characters of a certain gender because that’s who they’re attracted to. Not that I find anything wrong with that, I respect anime like Free! and otome games.

        And it’s not really that serious of a conversation. Most of it’s just people sharing that they’d be more interested in the game if there were female protagonists.

        • HarakiriKami

          The people bitching and complaining about a thing that doesnt exist yet for no damn reason? No they dont belong here.

          If you want to have a discussion about social commentary in games you can go next door to the people who do the same thing with comic books. Which, coincidentally HAPPENS AFTER THE VOLUME IS OUT.

          • And there are people complaining about complaining. Sounds like we’re all even. ^u^
            At least they’re on-topic and discussing the game, and everyone is free to their opinion of the game, whether or not we agree with it.

            Social commentary, as long as it is about the game, does belong here.

            If they release info of the game, people are free to comment on that. It’ll happen. Didn’t you also comment on it?

          • Extra Z-001

            “a thing that doesnt exist yet for no damn reason?”

            What doesn’t exist? Final Fantasy XV?
            It doesn’t really matter. People are going to have opinions on games. Even games that aren’t out yet. And if people aren’t interested in them, sometimes people are going to share that.

            The whole point of them showing off trailers and things like that about the game is to help us develop an opinion about the game. The hope is to give people a good impression. But sometimes that won’t always happen.

            “If you want to have a discussion about social commentary in games you can go next door”
            I’m pretty sure we can go wherever we like, so long as the place allows it.

    • Jadfish

      Hey this time around I think the ladies will be juuuuuuuuuust fine with an all male cast

      • GreatKino

        Who is the guy behind the dude with the glasses and how come this is the first I’m seeing him…

        • Ronldbx6

          Me too I haven’t seen him before.

          • Mastery

            Cor Leonis. He joins the party later.

      • kylehyde

        From left to right Nick, Kevin, Brian, A.J. and Howard

    • M’iau M’iaut

      Lets not force folks to write the tales you demand. This is about a vudeo game not a political polemic. Take it elsewhere.

      That applies to responses too folks. Both sides.

      • bob

        wut…? you and jirin person are saying the exact same thing. He said “If an artistic idea calls for all males you use all males, if an artistic idea calls for all females you use all females ” then you go teling him not to force ppl to write tales he’s demanding. what exactly was he demanding again?

        • M’iau M’iaut

          My concern is folks trying to ptess buttons we which don’t need pressed here. I don’t much care the side of the aisle.

          • bob

            lol which is the exact same thing… he’s not picking any side either.

  • Jadfish

    Been calling it “Final Fantasy Road Trip” ever since that trailer hit, and I really like the looks of it. Just imagine hanging out with your friends, driving through a fantasy world, stopping for food and monster killing every now and then~

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    Why don’t we all just wait and see as we get closer to the release date? Its not even finished yet!

  • You know, someone should do a “What is love?” video out of that first screenshot sometime lolol.

  • Kelohmello

    All male party’s fine by me. So is an all-female party. There’s no reason why any game HAS to be inclusive to all genders.

    In regards to that road trip aspect, I honestly really like it. It gives this feeling of realism, or relatability, to a fantasy world, and that contrast is super cool. It makes it feel immersive despite the fact that I’m not even playing the game yet.

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    Maybe Square got sick of hearing how much people hated their female characters (Lightning, Vanille, Serah – especially Lighting for 3 games), that they just decided to make a full testosterone lead angle.

    • Lol, that might be true. It’d be sorely missing the point/problem, but we know that’s already a quality they’ve had for a while. x’D

      • British_Otaku

        It would be as big as mistake as SEGA misunderstanding people complaining about different terrible playstyles in Sonic games and creating games with either one playstyle (not even alternative characters to approach it) or two playstyles with one being okay and the other being padding.

        We could easily have obnoxious or bland characters in this group if they aren’t careful.

        • That’s another reason I’m not excited; because there’s that too.

          • British_Otaku

            Seems like they already ran into that issue with 13, not to say that a new director means this game is safe, but even if caution is the smartest approach for anything.

            SE should be better.

    • Jadfish

      You know I didn’t mind Vanille all that much, but that was probably only due to that…. weirdly…. entrancing accent in the english version…

      A-anyway!, I honestly think it has been in the planning stages for years. Versus XIII was announced alongside XIII after all (or at least close to it, if memory serves)

      • Firekitty

        Nah, she was perfectly fine in Japanese; I wouldn’t say I LIKE her, exactly, but I enjoyed the role she filled in the story, and I feel she redeemed herself in the end.

        Also I never used her in battle, so I didn’t have to listen to any of her…noises…

    • Megamatics

      Or maybe they saw how Brotherhood is a powerful angle for a lot of men.

    • decus

      No, like he said that was always going to be the plan for versus, as in it was going to be all guys from the beginning before people even touched FFXIII. It was definitely meant to be a contrast with lightning though, when they first showed trailers for FFXIII and versus.

  • British_Otaku

    Over 700 comments? Seriously? This must be one of Siliconera’s most discussed articles, especially so as it isn’t likely to be closed like some of the localisation based big responses. I imagine The Escapist and other sites must have the same thing going on.

    • M’iau M’iaut

      Long as we arent getting hateful or displaying zealotry I am trying to let folks talk. Don’t mean I haven’t thought about managing different.

      • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

        I think its going pretty well so far.

        • M’iau M’iaut

          Ya and we haven’t done many deletes.

  • Bobby Jennings

    I’m hearing about the weapon changing being removed from the game. I hope this isn’t the case.

  • Pinkemon

    You’ll feel the romance of going on a trip, and such,” Tabata says.

    “The party will only have male characters,” replies Tabata

    …Obligatory Yaoi joke? Yes? No?

    I say yes. >w> (Yeah, I don’t care if there’s no women around as long as I have cute guys to ship.)

    • Genesis

      Don’t worry someone is going to play the part of the female.

      • Firekitty

        With that seiyuu, it’s definitely going to be Prompto. He sounds younger than Hope.

        I’m not a shota fan, so this makes me unhappy.

    • Firekitty

      FFXV: Nomura’s first yaoi dating sim.

      I can’t wait…Maybe the CE will come with a buttcheek mousepad <3!

  • z_merquise

    Is it already confirmed that Noctis is the only playable character?

    • Jadfish

      I think that would be a safe assumption, given how it looks like most of the gameplay is designed around his teleporting ability.

      I wouldn’t mind being able to beat the stuffing out of a Behemoth with Ignis though…. that guy is cool as hell

    • GreatKino

      People are mad about an all male party so I think It’s safe to assume that all the four guys are playable.

  • subsamuel01

    People just find something to complain about these days, why can’t we just enjoy things for what they are.

    • Genesis

      Not until they go back to days of dark knights, dragoons, and paladins :D

  • No No

    Why only Noctis oh man the other guys looked fun to play as too, maybe with the weapon switching Noctis can use all types I suppose so you still get to try out different classes.

  • Eric Harris

    pre-order cancelled.

  • It’s hilarious, I can see people not buying this anymore after hearing this.

    ALL MALE CAST? HOW DARE YOU SE? HOW DARE YOU!

    • Nice Boat Quatro

      THE REASON I LIKE FF IS BECAUSE OF TITS!! NOCTIS CANNOT GIVE ME THAT!!

      • Boldmonk

        His “girl friend”?

    • Genesis

      My reason is when they deviated from the older titles 1-6 and 11 it went downhill. I’ll stick with the Tales of series.

      • I personally prefer a more modern style, so in my viewpoint, post 6 FFs were better. Maybe this is why a Tales game can never hype me up as much a new FF can.

        I’m still buying Zestiria and Xillia 2 though. I don’t have to be confined to a single RPG company.

        • Genesis

          I’m not confined to 1 company either if thats what you assuming.

          • I initially thought so, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    • nekolife

      Boyband Fantasy 15 doesn’t appeal to me, so I’ll be one of those people unlikely to buy it now.

    • culip21

      i’ll pass this game.
      i don’t like boyband, i prefer girlband fantasy tahn this.

  • Megamatics

    I wonder what the story will be like, seeing as the core dynamics haven’t changed, it can only be Deep and enriched over the time it’s spend in development.

  • Blati. Boyu.

    Game could have been great if it was 4 sexy chicks instead of 4 boring dudes. Ew.

    And yes, I’m a girl myself.

    • Savage Sui ♥

      Umm… what? Female characters can be just as boring as male ones. Having one/some playable girls does not automatically make a game great.

    • Firekitty

      And then you would be playing FFX-2. Which I would be totally okay with, but I’d kinda like some sexy dudes occasionally, too.

    • Megamatics

      I think we’ve seen the “Girls Day Out” adventure a lot. It seems like they’re exploring the special notion of Brotherhood with this. Guys tend to form bonds based on loyalty and strength, so it could be a very very deep plot going on here. Oh course I’m taking this from the movie 4 Brothers and the game Two Brothers.

  • I like to play as a female so …

    • Ronldbx6

      Go play Lightning Returns.

  • Bell

    I love how whenever a game or show or anything, really, has its main cast mostly or completely made up of one gender, people go crazy. RWBY’s getting the same kind of complaints that FFXV is, just reversed. Why this is a big deal, especially from a series that so many people complained about focusing too much on a certain FEMALE character (although I personally loved Lightning, while she was far from my favorite), I can’t comprehend. I, for one, am totally ready for an epic broad trip. And puns.
    And I wonder if any of the guys will have romantic interest in each other, or if they’ll just be good friends? Either way, though, shippers are going to go nuts.

    • Genesis

      you know people has a right to an opinion just like you do?

      • Bell

        Of course! Sorry if I came off as kind of an ass. I’m not trying to say that what I think is right and that what other people think is wrong, but I have just as much of a right to be annoyed by people’s opinions as they do to have them.

        • I think the problem is, you’re annoyed by their opinion. Yes, you definitely have that right, but their opinions aren’t going to change anything and expressing it on a board/site is as close as they’ll get to feeling better.

          I mean, at least you still get to enjoy the game, but everyone that’s disappointed about it (whether because of the combat or the cast), that’s unfortunate and they get nothing (especially after all the wait)~.

          • Bell

            Very true. In that sense, I guess they’re doing exactly what I am.

          • Haha, yeah.

            I think a lot of us are so caught up on certain remarks and feelings here, we’re overlooking other parts of the article and comments about things that are more relevant to our tastes and worries about the game.

    • Firekitty

      It’s a Nomura game; nothing overt will go on between any of the guys, but that car will be overflowing with subtext, because Nomura knows what the fangirls like and he seems to enjoy making us happy.

  • Noor Mahmoud

    I don’t get it, why do people need a playable female main? We’ve had Lightning for the last 5 years and people absolutely hate her.

    • Firekitty

      Because what we don’t have always sounds better than what we do.

    • Klarktastic

      People didn’t hate lightning because she was a girl, they hated her because she was lightning.

      • Firekitty

        People hated her because she was the newest main character of the newest FF, just like they hated Vaan, like they hated Tidus, like they hated…okay, no one really seems to hate Zidane…

        Just you wait, when FFXV comes out the hate will explode for it, while it still mysteriously sells amazingly, because the haters are just doing it for attention. And then the forums will be filled with people whining about how much better XIII was, and how XV is clear evidence that SE is dying, blah blah blah…

        • nekolife

          Are you implying that FF13 was actually a good game?

          • Firekitty

            I am flat-out saying that I loved FFXIII, and don’t especially care if you did not. You’re entitled to your opinion, and so am I.

            Though I will also say that you’d have a pretty hard time proving that there was anything *technically* wrong with the game, aside from the lack of alternate routes. It was a well-made product, pretty much everything you could make valid criticism of is opinion.

          • nekolife

            So defensive.

            I tried hard to like FF13 myself, but eventually all the protagonists’ incessant whining was too much.

          • Firekitty

            Yeah, having a close family member killed or kidnapped or in mortal peril, and being turned into a time-bomb with your only choices being ‘destroy the world’ or ‘suffer for eternity for failing’ isn’t a big deal, the characters should all have been totally calm and stoic the entire game.

            Actually, all the characters reacted reasonably and realistically to the situations they were put in, developed as people and rose above the challenges. Maybe heavy emotional drama just isn’t your thing, or maybe story-heavy games aren’t.

    • AuraGuyChris

      That’s different. Lightning had WAY too much focus in her last game as the only party member. There’s no reason to bring her up.

      This game, though, has a party full of males. I suppose the male audience is angry while the female audience loves the idea.

  • Aristides

    Hrmm, well when guys get together and take road trips… well … you know… crazy shit tends to happen. Erm no girls? I don’t mind but lol I highly doubt they’ll be able to accurately recreate what guys do when they’re alone XD.

    • J_Joestar

      i doubt there will be a scene like…
      *Loud Fart sound*
      Guy1: Haha! Breath it in boys!

      Guy2: DUDE!
      Guy3: AWWW That is rancid!
      Guy4: *quickly rolls down the window for some fresh air*

  • TeachDRRR

    Getting really worried about the game now. First the whole simplified combat with auto dodge & auto attack. Now he’s completely auto-dodging the question if it’s open world by calling it a road trip. Which sounds like it’s going to just be linear with things to do along the way. Still better than FF13, but not what I was hoping for. At least it makes for some funny pics.

    As for the all male cast thing, I’m fine with it as long as Stella (or Luna?) isn’t just a love interest who does absolutely nothing. And as others have said, they need to tread carefully with only 4 party members, cause if even one isn’t likeable, it’ll seriously affect the others.

    I also REALLY hope that the rumors that weapon switching & being able to use other party members are fake. Cause those looked great in last year’s trailer.

    All in all, I hope it turns out great, but it’s getting hard to stay optimistic.

    • Sydney Losstarot

      I hope I see some cute romance scenes with Stella and Noctis like the cute scenes found in my favorite romance Manga, Last Game. I will be really disappointed if they don’t.

      • Firekitty

        I’d rather see some cute romantic scenes between Ignis and Noctis, but I guess I’ll have plenty of fanfic to tide me over; you can have canon XD.

    • Mastery

      There are 5 party members.

      • TeachDRRR

        Really? All I’ve seen is the 4 guys in the trailer. Even in the old trailers, it’s just these 4 in the combat and whatnot.

        • popo123

          There’s another guy, an older male character. You can see him in their group artworks and past trailers trailers.

        • Mastery

          His name is Cor Leonis, and he joins the party later.

  • Ronldbx6

    “you won’t have to wait another five or ten years after the release of the demo, so don’t worry.” You’ll just have to wait 4 more years :)

    • Loco4Divas

      I noticed that comment too, it better not be another 5 years of development.

  • Firekitty

    Personally pretty happy about not having female characters, since it will hopefully keep any romantic silliness to a minimum? I like how XIII did it, where the only couple was already a couple at the start, so they didn’t take over the story. some romantic themes are okay, and given who our heroes are, I wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of them had a girlfriend, or even a wife waiting for him back home, but frankly developing the characters and their friendships is more interesting to me, anyway.

    It would be NICE to have an awesome female character playable, but it’s not in any way necessary to my enjoyment of the game; I don’t need an avatar to ‘relate to’ in order to get into a story.

    • VeniVidiVici

      Not having female characters will keep out Romantic silliness? What games have you been playing? Most of the female party members from FF Games don’t have any romantic subplots. Maria, Refia, Rydia, Porom, Faris, Lenna, Krile, Terra, Relm, Yuffie, Selphie, Quistis, Eiko, Rikku, Paine, Lulu until X-2 happened, Ashe, Fran, Filo, Lightning, Vanille, and Fang are all part of the protagonist party (with Terra and Lightning being the protagonists) and none of them had romance. Only the main love interests (which isn’t even in every FF, such as V, VI, and XIII) and Freya ever have romance. Celes too if you squint hard, but it was very subtle and did not take over the plot. Also, there are non-protagonist male party members who have had romantic subplots as well, such as Locke, Kain, Zack, Vincent, Irvine, Laguna, Steiner, Noel Caius and Snow. And that’s not including the male protagonists of the main series with few exceptions.

      Tl:dr romantic “silliness” that overtakes the plot does not happen just because there are female characters and also not having female characters doesn’t prevent it, as there are as many males involved in romantic subplots as females. Sorry, but I had to point this out, because it’s just a ridiculous reason.

      (Also note: not attacking you. Just wanted to use your comment too address this reasoning, as I’ve seen others use it too.)

      • Firekitty

        I’m not saying female characters are bad, or that every single one of them has romantic subplots falling from every orifice, while all the menfolk stand around all manly and stoic and having none of it (How would that even make sense? There would be a LOT more yuri fans in the fandom, if that were the case!). Nor did I say that romance was a bad thing.

        However, unless our four boys start falling all over each other (Not an entirely unlikely thing, this being a Nomura game), you have to admit that not having co-ed party DOES greatly reduce the role romance could reasonably play in the story? As I said, given their ages and rank, there’s every chance that at least one of the characters has a girlfriend, fiance or even a wife (They’re nobility, realistically they’d be expected to marry young and have heirs asap) who will factor into their motivations and perhaps play a role in the story. It’s also pretty universally expected that that there will be some form of romantic tension between Noctis and Stella. But since none of these characters will be in the main party, again, it will limit their potential influence on the story and characters.

  • shenlong234

    I would make a joke about yaoi and feminists, but that’s beneath me.

  • Afternoon Intergalactic

    I really have no problem with an all male cast (it seems like a breath of fresh air to me), but the “road trip” part doesn’t seem as appealing. I guess I just look for a different kind of escapism in my games, and I would rather go on a drive and have a good time with three other friends in real life than experience it in a video game.

    • Mastery

      I’m the kinda guy that doesn’t even look for escapism. The fact that I’ve gone on road trips with bros makes it more appealing. Call it a busman’s holiday, but to each his own.

  • FFmax

    My god this is the most comments I have ever seen on a Siliconera article! I didn’t expect this turn into something this huge. I wonder if we’ll break 1000 lol.

    • SetzerGabbiani

      Was thinking the same thing.

  • MaidKillua

    Inb4 at least 80% of the people saying they won’t buy the game end up buying it anyway because gamers are shit at boycotting anything

  • kyubey777

    All playable male character and good looking one, why not?

  • popo123

    I’m a bit worried on the battle system and how “automatic” it is when it comes to command execution. Tabata said that merely holding the attack or defend button can unleash a string of flashy moves or continuously make Noctis evade or defend himself from attacks. Also, weapons cannot be chosen manually and changes automatically depending on the situation. At the very least I hope the other characters become playable and I hope he was only referring to the demo when he said only Noctis can be controlled.

    • KazukiNanbu

      hope they used the feedback they will get with the demo’s reception unlike capcom with RE 6

      • popo123

        Yeah, I really hope they do. They seem to be more open to fan reception nowadays with FFXIV and Type-O so I hope whatever complaints, suggestions and comments they get from the demo they will consider it on the final version of the game. Another fun fact I’ve learned is that Yoichi Wada(Squeenix’ former president) was the one who wanted Tabata to replace Nomura as the director of FFXV(of course Nomura himself wanted to switch to KH3)

  • FinalArcadia

    I’m liking the all-male party this game is bringing. I don’t really believe in having to have a token female party member just to satisfy people or feeling obligated to, especially if it doesn’t fit the original vision of the story/group dynamics (which seems the case here, with the road-trip thing going on). An all-male party seems like it might let things take on a totally different feel than past FF games, and I mean that in a good way for a change of pace.

  • chosen105

    I really dont see what the big deal is but what ever, Im going to enjoy my demo of this along side type 0 HD coming march. For all the angry ones out there, if you dont like it, dont buy it.

  • KazukiNanbu

    why there are some people who are mad with this? is because the game looks modern even thought there are other final fantasy that are not medieval? is because the game will have only male playable characters?

    • Genesis

      I love the medieval ones, that what made it fantasy. It cease to be a FF game to me with 7 (or sorta with 6). Stopped playing after 13, played other jrpgs.

      • KazukiNanbu

        the new ones are more like modern fantasy o sci-fi which i don’t mind, but yeah, medieval world are more easly associated with the fantasy genre

    • I’m not mad, but I’ve been pretty bleh about the game for a little while now. I do love FF’s own spin on classic fantasy, but I also love when they try and explore other types of fantasy (sci-fi, futuristic, etc).

      My problem is that it looks less like FF and more like their attempt at meshing together other titles. I’m not sure if they are just trying to refresh the series, or if they’re going just by what they think will make money.

      But really, we just have to wait and see what the end product is like.

  • terranoie

    Sad to say I’m one of those people disappointed that there will be no female character playable as this has always been my preference. Remember, this is all an opinion and people should never get too worked up about it! But that’s not to say I won’t give the game a chance. I’d still like to see how it will turn out.

  • Dexward

    Hopefully, they don’t get into a freak gasoline-fight accident.

    • Dylan Neill

      Final boss confirmed as Mugatu.

    • Loco4Divas

      Like in Zoolander? lol

  • Sakurazaki

    Having flashbacks to the ending credits for FF7:AC.

  • Michael Connell

    I wonder if this will produce enough yaoi fan material to rival FF7’s

    • If it doesn’t, I will be extremely ashamed of the FF fandom.

      • ER_Mac3

        I’d rather have some Takeshi Matsu magic… Gladiolus, I’m keeping a close watch on you.

        • UNF! Thank you for introducing me to that!
          I really needed more bara artists to turn to too. ♥

        • Snorlaxation

          Matsu-sama, my hero.

      • komiko12

        Fujoshi?

        • Hehe, no but I know there’d be a lot of glorious art and this would be as prime a time as ever.

          • Aunna Terrell

            There’s been plenty of fanarts, fanfictions, and RP accounts created with just little information of each characters’ personality. So thanks to the TGS trailer, there will be a boom~ in all those departments, of course!

          • I am so glad to hear that~. I’m already confident in this fandom. ^u^

  • Juan Pablo Gonzalez

    I don’t know why ppl complains about using a car … FF8 had car rental … FF15 will have chocobos as well … the car is needed in order to fast-travel in a big open world, it’s totally a necessity !! … unless you wanna spend 30 min walking to reach a location.

    Cars are not a new thing … FF7 says hello !! … besides the car was shown since 2006 while the game was still VersusXIII … there’s no surprise.

    FF needs to evolve, the development team is totally going the correct direction with action gameplay mechanics and a car to travel with !! the setting in FF15 is modern-fantasy.

    • Matt

      exactly. project flare will be immense. and I guarantee this won’t be the only method of travel in the game. patience folks, Rome wasn’t built in a day.

  • NemoPS

    No, seriously? Final Fantasy? Are we kidding? THis looks more like Assassin’s Theft Hunter XV. Seriously. Square Enix, please, die. Stop raping the brand. Please. This looks more like a russian mafia movie. 100% crap.

    • Genesis

      Yeah they ran some off their old team off during ff14 1.0 and some just quit. They just slapping final fantasy on games and it sells. If it was named something else, I bet it wouldn’t sell.

    • Rape is a bit strong of a word. Could you be careful not to throw it out so casually?

      FF is a continuously evolving brand though. Even though it doesn’t look as much FF to me either, it does have some of the trademarks in feel and atmosphere.

      But we’ll see what it’s like when it’s out.

      • BlackC#Bro

        4.

        an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation:
        the rape of the countryside.

        Pretty sure rape fits what they are doing with the series just fine.

        • Not really? It’s not a violent seizure since it isn’t being taken by anyone.

          • Video Games

            You can stop trying to think that you’re being the savior of women by getting so worked up by the word “rape” anytime now.

          • Lol, do I look like a savior? Thanks~!

            Also, women aren’t the only ones that have that worry. All that is here nor there though. If it doesn’t matter to you, then don’t bother people about it.

          • Video Games

            Could you rephrase that in english? I don’t get what you’re implying at all.

          • I can’t rephrase it in a language I don’t speak. :/

          • Symbol de Au

            It says “or” so it still fits actually. It doesn’t have to be a violent seizure, it can also be abuse. I don’t agree that it’s being abused but it still fits.

          • Lol, the abuse part is fair. But then again, the other points the initial user brought are null, yeah. His gripe was that FF changed (and only referred to 7-9). VII is wildly different from I, so I felt the argument as a whole didn’t apply anyway~.

      • NemoPS

        Or maybe not strong enough. FF was sakaguchi’s game, not these guys’. And it’s so evident. Then if you feel okay in comparing this to final fantasy 7,8, or 9…did you ever play final fantasy?

        • Lol, okay, you’re just really extreme it sounds like.

          VII is barely like I and II, which Sakaguchi also created. Surprise! Things can change~. Just watch how extreme your language and comments get, okay?

        • Matt

          you have no idea what this game will be like. how do you know there won’t be flying chocobos and submarines? and travel to outer space? and zombies and caves and robots and fairys and cities and towns to explore and corrupt politicians manipulated by malevolent corporations manipulated by aliens–everything every good main ff game has had since its inception? you don’t know. p.s. people flamed 7-9 in the same way that you’re flaming this. dude a few posts was right. it will get criticism no matter how they portray it because that’s the price you pay for being the best. like Obama. lol

        • Extra Z-001

          Even if Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn’t like where the series is going, which we don’t know.

          Rape is one of the most horrible things you can do to a person. I don’t think that kind of traumatic experience is in any way comparable to what is happening to a video game series.

          Even if you’re very unhappy with what’s happening to the series. This is insulting to rape victims.

    • Daigure

      As a flagship series, Final Fantasy needs to stay modern and relevant. Real talk; if Final Fantasy kept making sequels with little to no changes, it would follow the path of other series that get criticized for releasing sequels with little to no changes (Assasin’s Creed, Call of Duty, etc). Really, you can curse Square Enix for forgetting the fans of classic RPGs, even as they’re continuing a new IP that caters directly to your fandom (Bravely Default and Bravely Second).

      • Genesis

        That if you have a 3ds.

        • Daigure

          Well, just because you don’t HAVE the console the game is for doesn’t mean that Square Enix NEVER made the game.

          Really, my problem is that this game is being instantly written off as “100% crap” because it’s not what someone wants.

  • Bacon_n_Lettuce

    I don’t understand all the complaints about the choice of an all male main cast. If that’s what the creators of the story want to make it about, why complain about it? It doesn’t need to be anything else other than what it is, if that makes sense.

    I personally think it’s a good thing they’re trying something different for the series at this point, since it’s been a while since there’s been an FF with a single-gendered cast, and they needed to something different from FFXIII anyway. But hey, with a series as big as Final Fantasy, it’s going to be divisive no matter what they do with it.

    • Dylan Neill

      I think the idea of the party is pretty cool, it reminds me of YRP from FFX-2, where the party members had great chemistry with each other, and felt like friends, unlike a lot of Final Fantasy parties, where they feel like acquaintances more than anything.

      • MLSabre

        Even though they keep shouting out that they’re friends. : /

      • Genesis

        Most FF games they fighting for a general cause. Save the world, and resist tyranny.

    • SerendipityX

      I’m not sure what is confusing about criticizing creative work. Just b/c it’s the creators vision does not mean that it is immune from criticism from people/fans who are interested in the product.

      • Bacon_n_Lettuce

        I get that, but at this point in time, there’s no work to criticize. We don’t know anything substantial about the characters or their dynamics with one another, and no one knows how the story will play out. Right now, it’s just criticizing a concept, without knowing what the ultimate plans for the concept are.

        • Nothing is ever really immune from criticism, including concepts. Even at a game’s bare bones, it will always been questioned over. If you have any sort of expectations for a game, you’re bound to be questioning its direction from beginning to end and adjust to newer information (i.e. the “ultimate plan,” so to speak) so that you can add more questions and see if the developing process seems to go fruitfully or not. There’s nothing wrong with being skeptical most of the time. Hell, this is nothing new.

      • I taught you well.

        • SerendipityX

          Yo sensei! Me. You. Road Trip. Let’s show dem pretty boys how it’s done!

          • Yeah sure, why not? lol

    • Juan Pablo Gonzalez

      Also male only party members is based on the story script … that’s how they decided the story to work out … a gang of rich dudes in a fancy car talking dude-stuff: nonsense, jokes, etc !! … Honestly it would be somewhat weird to have a lady in a car full of boys …

      As mentioned above it wouldn’t be the first time either … FFX-2 had female only party members. Besides there are important female NPC (stella, luna, black hair girl) … oestrogen is still in the game as important NPC’s,

    • Extra Z-001

      I think that creators should be able to have their vision. That’s great. Artist expression and self expression are really wonderful and valuable and I love them.

      But not everyone is going to be every creator’s vision.

  • Juan Pablo Gonzalez

    Personally most exciting thing about this new batch of info is that the Demo will have Towns to explore, according to Tabata 4gamer interview.

    Also Tabata said the open-world nature of FF15 will not be like Skyrim, but more similar to Red Dead Redemption in the sense that even if the world is open there’s a mark to check in the map for story-progression.

    The only thing I didn’t like is that apparently only Noctis can be directly controlled, no party switching for combat :/

  • Michael Connell

    You know, this game’s premise just reminded me of an anime series I enjoyed quite a bit of back in the day that was also about four guys with varying magic powers on a roadtrip/quest so I think I’ll try thinking a bit more positively about FFXV:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEIj0P4IETc

    • KazukiNanbu

      holy s*** i love that anime!

  • Rebellion14

    I don’t get it, aren’t we looking for good characters and an interesting plot that uses the characters well?
    Why does it matter what gender they are?

    • Snorlaxation

      For the most part it’s cuz people are tired of only men having the spotlight, and women being designated as the same damsel/busty evil/weaker/sugar type characters. It gets old. But then, i guess this game has been in development for a long while, so this is probably what they had planned almost a decade ago.
      We’ll see how they handle it.

      • Rebellion14

        Wait the females of this game was already portrait as damsel/busty evil/weaker/sugar type characters. In one of the trailers we see Stella facing off against Noctis and in another we see the black haired lady jumping off a roof to fight Noctis head on in battle.

        Where did you see them as damsel/busty evil/weaker/sugar type characters?

        I am not saying you’re wrong, hell you may end up being right but I am not sure how did you come to the conclusion you came to from the news all playable characters are male.

        • Snorlaxation

          No, I meant all around in other FF games and other games in recent years in general.
          That’s why having a new game come out with apparently no female characters playable at all doesn’t help the issue. This game could have absolutely dynamic and complex (and hopefully from the sound of it Kick ass) females, but it could just as easily not, and people would be not surprised, but also incredibly disappointed.

          • Rebellion14

            I get what you are saying, but what I don’t get is why for some people, playable and female instantly make said character good?

            We know that there are female main characters and heck they may end up being way better than these playable male. Characterization and story have no relation to whether character is playable or not.
            I mean look at the Last of Us was Ellie not a great character? Even though we played as Joel most of the time.

          • Snorlaxation

            What your saying is true, we don’t know how it’s all going to go, we don’t know how amazing or not these ladies will be, or if they’ll even be playable.

            What I’m saying is also true. The gaming industry, and Squaresoft which then became Square Enix, have made most of the females in videogames backseat drivers to the plot, or kept them as main characters yet also secondary characters, weak, limited them to feminine stereotypes or fully fetishized them. Men have, can, and will fall into very similar traps, of course, but they still get to pilot the entire game’s story, or are developed fully in the game and become very complex characters, transcending the mold… and then they get the bodacious babe or meek but pretty female companion and alls well that ends well.

            No, playable and female Do Not instantly make a character good, but is Playable and Male the only option we have? Are all playable and male characters good? Hell no. I’d like to have more female characters in games even if some of them sucked. VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE.

            Give me a musclebound lady with a gatling gun and 8 pack abs, and a male archer. Give me a genderless (with no distinguishing characteristics) Dancer style character who boogies their way to victory with fireworks and funky chicken combos! I want different stuff!

            And while not many want the same zany crap I do, many want more variety, more equality, just different stuff. This I believe. That doesn’t mean we have to get rid of the rest, it just means, Balance It Out.

          • Rebellion14

            I agree with you on the first point but playability has nothing to with it.

            >No, playable and female Do Not instantly make a character good, but is Playable and Male the only option we have? Are all playable and male characters good? Hell no. I’d like to have more female characters in games even if some of them sucked. VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE.

            They are just onscreen avatars, what gender they are clearly don’t matter in terms of variety, as they are just an outer appearance but I get it you if you mean you want class variety (as you seem to mean) and don’t like the classes they are showing you right now. I too would like them to use something other then the classic swords and guns but ehh…. you take what you get.

          • Snorlaxation

            I’m glad we agree on a few points, (Seriously, there are tons of ways to fight, especially in games, lets up the ante here).

            But onscreen avatars or not, (and Square Enix androgynous or not) they are still designed as men, voiced by men, and talk and exist as men, virtual yes, but who knows if any have romance subplots or anything, and this being a FF game there’s a good chance of that.

            Which means you’re playing as dudes, and you know you’re playing as dudes. There’s nothing wrong with that, but sometimes, or more often than sometimes, you don’t just wanna play as a dude. Whatever gender you are, you either want to play as that gender, would like to be able to identify as your character or just put more of yourself into the game, or just be exactly the opposite of yourself in the game. Not always possible if the only option is Male.

          • Rebellion14

            Yeah that has more to do with story than the playability though. You may find characters in this games story that you can easily identify yourselves as (female or male). I don’t think identity is necessary in order to bash monsters into the ground….

          • Snorlaxation

            Games mean different things to different people. Not everyone cares about these things, obviously. Not everyone cares about customization, but rather playability, story, action, how scary it is, the artstyle, who it was made by, how much of a time sink it is, or what you get out of it.

            I love changing the colors on my Super Smash bros characters, altering the looks of my fighters in fighting games, loved being able to alter the looks and customize weapons in Star Ocean 3. I constantly changed outfits in the Persona series, even when, like in Persona 3, some of the outfits weren’t great for the stats.
            That kind of thing appeals to me, but not everyone. Some couldn’t care less.

            Even so, for all those reasons, people deserve to have Variety, not just from Square Enix, but from all game developers, and we’re getting more of it all over the place, but that doesn’t mean it should stop. One of my all time favorite characters is Aqua, from Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. Two things initially drew me to her: Her hair color (blue) and one of her fighting styles (dancer, for lack of a better term: Magical Wish/Spellweaver). She’s badass. Her story, her attacks, (her Voice actress). I love everything about her, and I admire her, nevermind that she’s just a videogame character, or that I myself am a guy.

          • Rebellion14

            But my initial point was whether there being a playable female alter the effectiveness of the story and the ability to create good characters (male or female). Of course it won’t. The fact whether you have a preference to play as females and won’t bother with the game if there isn’t one for reasons of preference that is an entirely different point though….
            And it’s one I can’t argue because well its preference….

          • Snorlaxation

            Whether it alters the effectiveness of the story is never important and at the same time, incredibly important. It’s complicated, and that I haven’t made you understand that just means I’m not the right person to explain it.

            The characters genders shouldn’t have to matter at all. The reason they do, is cuz people make these games using similar formulas that they know people like, or that enough like, to buy the game down the road.

            Why can’t you play as a female in Call of Duty. Why don’t they make more masculine looking characters in Final Fantasy games, (for example what happend with Capt. Bosch and Vaan’s creation in FF XII), and other issues that aren’t connected, but all fit under representation and at the same time preference over what will sell the games and what won’t.

            Again, I already have a feeling I’m not explaining this well, but I also strongly feel that, just from your responses, that these types of issues don’t matter to you. Not because your ignorant or because your a jerk, but because as a Gamer these are not things that matter to you when playing a video game. That’s fine. Like I said in a previous post, not everyone plays video games for the same reason, nor gets the same things out of it. Some play a game they hate, hating the battle mechanics, but loving the story. Some like the battle mechanics and hate the characters, etc.

            Having a playable female character shouldn’t alter the effectiveness of the story, but it can, because of how often and how exactly, the females are represented In the Story. Making a game with well rounded characters of any gender isn’t difficult, or rather, making a story and characters for the game to be based around, isn’t difficult, for everyone. People who write or make stories can do this and do it well, but not everyone can. Some people suck at storytelling, and emotion building, at character creation, for any kind of character. And some game developers let this slide cuz hey, that’s only one part of a game, and for some games, not even That important.

          • Symbol de Au

            You directly implied you were talking about this game in particular.

            “this is probably what they had planned almost a decade ago.”

            Unless you meant. “all male cast” but nothing in your post implies that’s what you meant.

          • Snorlaxation

            It’s not what I meant, but I probably didn’t word it well. I should’ve said “But then, WITH THIS GAME IN PARTICULAR, this game has been in development a long while.”

    • Genesis

      Not that gender that bothers me, but what bothers me I don’t understand bromance. second, what is the goal this game? To save the world, or a road trip? Its probably going to be roadtrip simulator (aka hallway simulator 2.0)

      • Rebellion14

        Well the game isn’t even out yet so obviously we don’t know the entire plot yet.
        But Tabata said in one of the interviews in general plot of the game was a crystal was stolen from them and they are going to go an recover said crystal back. What is it about the roadtrip that sounds bad to people, would it better if it was called airship-trip or something?

        Rather than bromance, I feel its the narrative that calls for all-male cast. Maybe they have a type of story in mind that can only be told through an all male perspective. It’s too early to judge that this story is bad just because they are all male we know almost nothing of the story yet.

        • Genesis

          I see I hope its the case, I’ll keep an eye out for the details.

        • EverEndingStory

          Yeah – I don’t understand the hate on it being a roadtrip. As I imagine it, the only difference that makes in comparison with other Final Fantasy games is that the team will all enjoy each other’s company – as opposed to one defined by constant bickering and teen hormones.

      • Nicholas Perry

        Hallway simulator 2.0? Brah, FF has always been a Hallway simulator for 90% of the main numbered games up until a point.

        People are so blind

        • Genesis

          Your wrong about that. 1-9 you could revisit places, 10 you could later in the game and 13 you couldnt. Also 1-9 was open world.

          • Daigure

            Isn’t it a little early to say that this’ll have just another hallway. At the very least, I’m getting a “Dragon’s Dogma” vibe from the latest trailer (in which you could just explore and find completely unimportant caves full of monsters). At the very least, isn’t that enough to give the game SOME credit?

          • Genesis

            Well when I picture a road trip, its one way. Not visit the same place twice.

          • Daigure

            With the new information that it’s inspired by story driven open world games like Red Dead, I think it’s safe to say that backtracking is at least an option. Also, maybe as the game progresses, we’ll get an airship (Tabata did say the world will get bigger as the plot goes on), so the story will change from a roadtrip. All I’m saying is that it’s too early to say that the whole game will be one huge straight line. Most RPGs I play (ie, a majority of FFs) don’t incentivize backtracking for anything other than brief cutscenes. (Unless it’s like FF12 or Dragon’s Dogma, where there’s a central “main town” to return to).

      • EverEndingStory

        “Don’t understand bromance”? So. . . you don’t understand close friendships/nonsexual love between two males?

        • Symbol de Au

          He ain’t no friend of mine.

        • Wtv

          There’s only hate between male, man. You know nothing.

          • Symbol de Au

            Soulless dastard.

        • Genesis

          I don’t have close relationships with other guys, I’m a loner. So knock it off…

          • EverEndingStory

            Lol. Just genuinely curious. I can kind of understand. As it is now, only two of my closest friends are guys – but both of those relationships are bromances.

          • Genesis

            Nothing wrong with it and not attacking it. Just had pretty rough childhood so I tend not wanting to deal with it.

    • SerendipityX

      Funny thing is Square’s writing leaves a lot to be desired for both genders, if you ask me :x

    • Wtv

      Nomura characters…they won’t be good, don’t worry.

      At least is based on reality, so I think the other guys aren’t all other lifes of Noctis…even if everyone looks like him. It’s complex.

  • Snorlaxation

    Whether you like the idea or not for any of the possible reasons, the car jokes, who farted jokes, drunk driving or bad driving (driving into enemies or not buying the right kind of gas? Or does the car use electric?) and of course, sex in car jokes, are going to be so plentiful.

    • Michieie

      Bet your ass that there will be some GTA jokes in there for good measure.

  • SerChief

    All male All the Time?!!?! This is a fantasy made for me! Thanks Squenix!
    I hope they get lots of matching outfit dlcs. O who am I kidding, of course there will be.

  • was this made by ubisoft

    • Matt

      no. square is just working with ubisoft to utilize a cloud rendering method called “project flare” … it will apparently be 17 times larger than the whole of skyrim with no zoning. so ubisoft is only really responsible for no loading times in the game. nothing more.

      • i never would’ve guessed that made it hard to write a good plot with female protagonists

        • MUST BE TOO HARD TO ANIMATE

          • Snorlaxation

            I’ve never heard something that made me want to laugh and cringe at the same time… aside from dead baby jokes.

            EDIT: Just to be clear, I take the issue seriously though.

          • EverEndingStory

            Well, in Ubisoft’s defense, the way they churn out those Assassin’s Creed games, I wouldn’t be surprised if they recycle a large portion of the animation game to game. In which case, it would be much harder (relatively) to animate a female assassin – they’d have to create an entirely new set of assassin animations for the first time in 7 years.

          • Steve R

            Except all that animation they have left over from Liberation..which featured a female assassin.

        • Firekitty

          It’s not hard to write a good plot with female protagonists (despite how often they seem to mess those up), it’s just that, not every plot REQUIRES a female protagonist to be good.

          • Snorlaxation

            Your right. I’d like to see a game with only a few dudes and mostly female cast, cuz the reverse is true too.
            Is the creation of that kinda game Plausible? No. And that’s the problem

          • Symbol de Au

            Senran Kagura

          • Firekitty

            FFX-2. And it was glorious, despite what the haters will shout if you so much as mention it (They either didn’t play, or completely missed the point).

            And it would be nice to see more games like that, but it’s not a ‘problem’ if they aren’t made…if you’re not getting the story or characters you want or need, then go make them yourself.

          • Symbol de Au

            There are actually a ton of games like that. I think it’s ridiculous to call something that’s been done multiple times implausible.

          • Firekitty

            I know there are some, I just can’t name any…the only one I can think of is Bayonetta?

            I am curious how many you can think of that AREN’T complete fanservice-fests, though? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that).

          • Symbol de Au

            Rune Factory Frontier, Skullgirls, Probably the Atelier games but I don’t know for sure…all those young girls games, and yeah they should count cuz we’re talking about being respectful to both genders. Young girls are still girls. Girly girls are still girls. Don’t pretend they don’t exist when you talk about making games that respect the gender. There’s probably more I know of but off the top of my head there they are.

            Hyrule Warriors

          • Wtv

            Now how about some not niche games?

          • Symbol de Au

            I’m pretty sure he said “games”. I don’t see why they’d need to be mainstream. So that more people can notice them? Maybe if they’d notice the games that are already there that “have” instead of complaining about the “have nots” they wouldn’t be so niche.

          • Wtv

            Nothing against niche games…I like all those that you said…well, not really Rune Factory, never played it.

            But…they were talking about how females characters in games don’t receive attention, and niche games are that…games that most people don’t care.

            I would say something more like Bayonetta, Tomb Raider, Mirror’s Edge, FFXIII, FFX-2, maybe Portal. These games have a long gap in time between them, though, when you see it.

            And that doesn’t even make sense. People loved Millia more than Jude and Xillia sold a lot. Namco still won’t do a female protagonist…like they said in interview. A lot of games today feature female characters that get really popular between fans…they are throw in some DLC and they don’t care to make they more relevant. (Telltale cared, thanks Telltale).

            It’s even more stupid when they release some crappy spin-off with female characters to tell people they are doing something good (I just saw something like that for Assassin’s Creed right now).

            So yeah, when one of the few series that has had good and strong female characters for some time (Final Fantasy has been about females just as much as about the male for some time now) suddenly drops it, people will complain.

            I for one just would like a cute character if I have a game with beautiful visuals, though. A bishie guy will ruin it. But that’s me.

            PS: I now they’re just doing a game that they were doing for some time now. I never expected a female character in it and I never cared about it. It always looked boring to me. As a fan from past Final Fantasy it’s sad if this is the future of the series (and I mean gameplay, as well), but who knows now. I’m just here because the discussion looked fun.

          • Symbol de Au

            “they were talking about how females characters in games don’t receive attention”

            A.) They themselves ignore them so there you go.

            B.) I’ve seen their posts. That’s what they’re talking about…maybe 20% of the time.

            C.) If they only care when the game has a big name maybe they don’t really care. Maybe they’re just going for the game with the most attention so they can get some of it.

            D.) I’m here for the same reason. I’m not here to argue. Mostly hilarious actually.

          • THIS ACTUALLY RAISES A REALLY VALID POINT

            when ubisoft did “the thing”, literally everyone was up in arms on every social media platform about it.

            but when final fantasy xv does it i’ve noticed that it’s mostly men getting upset???
            and then drakengard 3 sold like cold poop even though it was essentially what a lot of female gamers had asked for?

          • Wtv

            But girls like pretty boys being intimate with one another, why would they complain?

            This is FFX-2 for girls, after all!

            The funny thing about the Ubisoft thing is that no one saw what was really stupid in it.

          • Wtv

            Considering that Atelier games are less popular in each title and that annoys me, I will agree with you this time.

          • nicheeee
            Final Fantasy is usually the only AAA title that delivers female protagonists in roles of empowerment and it just shat the bed

            so there are no females in games atm

          • Symbol de Au

            “so there are no females in games atm”

            You’re my favorite.

          • like???? IN AAA TITLES ANYWAYS OKAY that was a generalization like Stella being a fancy ass npc doesn’t mean a thing they might as well have named her “shopkeeper 3”

          • i’m actually wrong nvm i forgot Dragon Age was a thing

            farewell

          • Genesis

            Actually the Atelier games has guys in it.

          • Symbol de Au

            But they’re mostly girls right? I don’t know though.

          • Snorlaxation

            You’re right. I misspoke, or overgeneralized. Simply put though, there aren’t very many huge big console games that fit this description, but that’s no reason to disregard the games that do cater to many and do everything right, no matter the platform.

          • Snorlaxation

            I loved everything about FFX-2. It just felt so fun and different, but still payed homage to the sadness and loss of the original X. It was great.

        • Reminder that Hajime Tabata’s last game with a female protagonist was The 3rd Birthday. Do people seriously want more of that?

  • Nicholas Perry

    Queue typical bitching and moaning.

  • malek86

    Nomura seems a bit misguided to me. I can’t imagine Outrun with a guy instead of a chick on the passenger’s seat.

    • AndyLC

      I can

      *Lucky & Wild is an arcade game with one steering wheel and two guns, so you either have one guy drive n’ shoot, or one guy drives and the other uses two guns.

    • Well that’s because you probably don’t, uh… “swing the same way” as Nomura. If you get my drift.

    • Ultima-X

      Then you have no imagination.

  • Omikuji

    Yeah know, I could care less about the gender ratio thing, all the black, and how long it’s taking for this game. It could bring something entirely fresh to the series that it desperately needs while bringing back the idea of characters you want to care about. Can’t judge it until stuff is actually seen with it and I want to know if the story and pacing will be any good which is impossible to know until the game is in my hands.

    What I can’t get over is that car.

    Seriously they can’t off road that thing at all, the moment it hits a bump or rolls over a small rock the bottom of that thing would be wrecked and piles of bills to repair it. Who’s idea is it to do off roading on a low rider??

    • Ultima-X

      Do you even know anything about that car? I don’t think you do. At one point in the trailer, they clearly showed it off-road and even at the end. Have you not been paying attention?

      • Omikuji

        …Yes that’s why I brought it up. The fact that they do off road it makes no sense as a car design and is the biggest style over function. Cars don’t work that way when they’re that low with hardly any rubber on them.

        If they go over a speed bump/slight bump and don’t scrap the car in the loudest horrifying sound ever I’ma be disappointed.

  • Final Fantasy Ex Vee: Boy Band Road Trip Edition

    (In all fairness though, “it’s a road movie” is vastly more of a holistic theme/concept than FF13 ever had. Which is good.)

  • Will John

    This won’t sell without a Tifa 2.0

    • Snorlaxation

      “Bros before *punched in the face*”

    • Genesis

      Inb4 Tabata announces “Lightning is in the car but on the backseat floorboard.” ^_~

      • Nice Boat Quatro

        Wait a sec…. Car powered by Lightning!

    • Firekitty

      Nah, it’ll be fine. Nomura’s got his fangirls, and we are legion (as will the yaoi fanfic be).

    • Mario Bros

      if this gets to pc,prepare for the fangirl mods replacing all the party members with these guys:

      http://how2update.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/5.-Boyfriend.jpg

  • Nice Boat Quatro
    • Genesis

      lmao

    • Juan Pablo Gonzalez

      LOL

    • Snorlaxation

      I support, and fear this.

  • They should have done this for Final Fantasy X-0.

  • ThunderGod_Cid

    *Sigh* So it IS a complete sausage fest. #-_-

    Well, besides that incredibly lopsided male-female ratio, I am looking forward to this game…..if it ever comes out.

  • Symbol de Au

    1067..er 1068 thoughts…heck yeah…1069

    Confession Time: I’d also prefer female character in this game. I ain’t mad though. Something seems swag about this setup.

    • Michieie

      It’s all about yakuza boys band.

  • Duc PC-QB

    This game will make every fan girls scream

    • Wtv

      A lot of fanboy too. Not in public, though.

      • AoNoise

        I’ll have you know I’ll scream in public. In front of a crowd, if necessary.

  • AoNoise

    I hope having only 4 playable characters means we’ll get A LOT of development.
    Right now they all strike me as Noctis’s b*tch*s, to be honest.

    And, if this goes down like any roadtrip I know, Final boss should be everyone trying to kill everyone because they are so fed up with each other.

    • Aunna Terrell

      Apparently, there’s a 42-year old vetern character named Cor who is playable as well. So that’ll be 5 playable characters atm?

      • Genesis

        As in Coors light?

      • EverEndingStory

        I was wondering about that. But we never see him in any gameplay. I imagine he’ll either be a temporary member, or come in much later. Either way, I imagine he’ll probably be a mentor type character to the others, and the relationship dynamic amongst the main four will remain primary.

        • Aunna Terrell

          I figured he is the mentor/protector who would eventually meet up with Noct and crew while Noct is on the run. So those four will be the first ones we’ll use for a long~ time till he joins up and anyone else that Square might throw our way.

      • Wtv

        He’s probably out, though. Old people don’t sell games!

        Some doujin would be creepy.

        • Aunna Terrell

          lol that didn’t stop people from loving Auron to death, though he was 35… So a little younger than Cor.

          • Wtv

            Auron wasn’t in a game markeatable as pretty boys doing boys things.

    • EverEndingStory

      This. And I kind of agree. The hope is that there’d be a strong bond between all four. But all the information we have so far focuses on each’s specific relationship with Noctis, with no info on their relationship with each other, making it seem less like a group of close friends and more like – well you put it best: Noctis and his three b*itch*s.

    • Loco4Divas

      I hope they get some kind of Airship or a jet during some point of the game. It be pretty sad if you can’t travel overseas.

  • ff13 had no towns and ff15 has no women

    THANKS OBAMA

    • NOMURA***

      • Symbol de Au

        Your original post was correct actually.

        • i believe they’re co-conspiring with ISIS to screw people over. i firmly believe nomura penned this script with that exact intention, which stemmed from his desire to be bent over the hood of an expensive sportscar and have 4 tall, dangerous mafiosos take turns on him

          • while on a quest to save a very wealthy immaculately dressed white girl from certain doom at a local sephora b/c she’s about to buy the wrong bronzer

            the original title of this game was

            NOMURA FANTASY XV: THEY TOOK ME OFF THE GAME BECAUSE I WANTED MALE ON MALE LOVESCENES

          • Wtv

            Nomura knows nothing. Love Stage is a failure while Free is a sucess…

            You need to let they make their own love scenes in their mind!!

          • Snorlaxation

            Every one of these posts of yours is platinum-encased diamonds.

    • Genesis

      Next is No more Heroes!

  • Black Heaven

    Damn, this kinda reminds me of Gensomaden Saiyuki: 4 boys, 1 car, lots of roads.

    Noctis being on the run similar to FFXIII, but without the urgency?

    You’ll feel the romance…
    … I think I read that wrong, or just thought wrong things. XD

    • Xerain

      It means it will have lots of drills.

  • Vayu Purana

    j-pop rock band cast of characters in a car simulator…….cause that’s what it looks like

  • Ms_Fortune

    So they’ve gone full on yaoi and pandering to the otakus.

    Guess I can take it off my list then.

    • AndyLC

      Just think of it as “Skull Boys”

    • miju

      You mean the fujoshits.

      Otakus would want an all girl cast.

  • Tiredman

    Not sure why that fella thinks him and Squeenix can release 3 games in a row that severely maim the Final Fantasy name and then he comes out and says if this doesn’t sell well, we will have to rethink things. Sounds like if it doesn’t sell well they are going to blame consumers and not their own shoddy practices.

    • landlock

      There been plenty of dodgy Final Fantasies before hand. FFXIII-2/-3 were actually really good. It was only FFXIII that was really average.

      • Tiredman

        I won’t argue with you about 13-3 since I haven’t played it yet, but me and you are in different universes when it comes to discussing 13-2’s quality. That game let me down in every way, shape, and form. I felt 13-1 blew it out of the water quality wise. I felt 13-2 was a quick buck game where they tried to put in the things folks complained was lacking from ff 13, but they didn’t do it in FF style, they did it some style I haven’t figured out yet.

  • Vash bane

    that romance bit has me thinking quite oddly (darn you below posts >.<)

    so only four characters? they must going to have a lot of character development huh? do they have like a character profile page to read or something ?
    (also about the demo….if I remember i'll be stalking youtube then lol)

  • Just Tim

    Meanwhile, I’m expecting complaints from more vocal female fans, “WE NEED FEMALE PARTY MEMBERS!!!” …right about now.

    The truth, on the other hand, is they’re gonna write about the all-male party, complete with “slashes”, in private. Yes, I know former schoolmates in real life who did BOTH.

    • Kumiko Akimoto

      Lol that’s been coming from male gamers actually, riding on the feminist gaming train

      • Just Tim

        Zoe Quinn is just another Gwenhwyfar (Guinevere).

        Oh, back on topic, they’re the same group that vocally demand that, yet cannot handle losing to ROLL in Tatsunoko VS Capcom. After all, who can’t handle getting told, “Dude, you got your ass kicked by a little girl!” after losing to her?

        Yeah, as for the main cast, I wonder what shenanigans they’ll involve themselves.

      • Jimmie Rustles

        I’m riding on the more waifus train

        • Just Tim

          Lupinko already called dibs on Hsien-ko, since vanilla MvC3.

        • Kumiko Akimoto

          Nah it’s more “I’m gonna try and sound progressive by quoting Anita.”

    • Loco4Divas

      You know Square Enix targeted audience for this game is actually women right, preferably Japanese women? That’s why there’s only male playable characters in this game lol

      • Just Tim

        I know, but I’m expecting Western women responses.

  • WhyWai

    4 members party looks a bit small for a JRPG for me…

    • SerChief

      I agree, they should put more men in there

    • Ultima-X

      Bravely Default: 4 characters “a welcome return to the original final fantasy days”
      Final Fantasy III: 4 characters “a classic title worthy of any hardcore jrpg verteran’s time”
      Final Fantasy XV: 4 characters “WTF?”

    • Aunna Terrell

      Earlier Final Fantasy games had a 4-person party system. Then it changed to 3 people with VII to recent games, iirc. (Not counting the MMOs.)

  • Nirvanes

    Looks fantastic. A great idea, really. Road Trips are a great way to tell a heartfelt story, and FF deserves that. We deserve that. I’m really hyped after watching the trailer, the plot may have changed since the beginning but it’s still worth the hope!

  • jayjay

    But what if their car is destroyed or breaks down…than what?

  • CloudStrifeACC

    My comment got censored just couz I said the game looks boring….? Strange.

  • ALL HAIL KING BIMPY
    • Snorlaxation

      Wow that’s perfect.

  • angelx03

    So no playable Stella?

  • hellrunrock

    But but waifu :/

  • Dee Ealey

    eh.only guy characters? wtf SE……..

    • Nirvanes

      Where were you when they released FF X-2?

      • Loco4Divas

        Not even a fair or equal comparsion. You are ignoring the fact that gaming in general is male dominated/focused.

        • Nirvanes

          If they were up to making a girls road trip only I was ok with that too. Please, it’s a work of fiction, it’s a story. It’s a story with guys only group. So what? They made a trilogy with a female lead character. And a game like FF X-2. Having a female lead never made me lose interest for a game. And the contrary stands too.

          • Loco4Divas

            I just think the defense that its “the story” which makes it okay for lack of diversity is weak. Also bringing up FFX-2’s cast and Lightning doesn’t even compare to the gender ratio of lead characters in the whole series. You are over-looking all the male leads from past games like Firion, Cecil, Ceodore, Bartz, Cloud, Squall, Zidane, Tidus and Vaan. Plus Zack and Vincent from FFVII are lead characters in their own games. Plus in FF1 and FF3 majority of all the job sprites looked pretty male defined other than the White Mage. Bringing up the few females lead doesn’t mean that the gender ratio of lead characters is equal. I’m going to get FFXV but i just don’t think ppl are defending it well.

          • Nirvanes

            They shouldn’t make more female characters just for the sake of diversity. That’s stupid. They just need to make what feels right to them. I know I would. If I was to have such a great idea like making an RPG with a plot surrounding a road trip my only concern would be to make great characters and a great story with them, not males or females. To be fair? I think it’s a lot more cooler investing in a ‘bros’ relationship than the typical love story cliché.
            There will be female characters, maybe a villain, just not playable. There’s nothing wrong with that. FF always had diversity, they should not compromise a great idea just because some people think that a game without a female playable character it’s wrong. It isn’t. It’s not right or wrong… it just is. This one at least.

          • Loco4Divas

            So diversity is a bad thing, its stupid? Having a female character doesn’t need to lead to a romance. “I think it’s a lot more cooler investing in a ‘bros’ relationship than the typical love story cliché.” What do you think the role that Stella is going to fill for this game? There will be some form of romance in this game. Its not only going to just be about BROS if Stella is just reduced to romantic interest. But what’s done is done, the story is complete and that game is already over 50 percent complete.

          • Nirvanes

            I don’t know what’s going to happen with Stella. It could be romance, it could be something else. A plot where she’s interested in Noctis reign or something like that.

            No it’s not stupid, it just needs to be natural and not something that developers do just because people complain on the internet. There are no playable females in this game, just let it be.

          • Loco4Divas

            I accept FFXV’s Story and Characters and I think I’m going to enjoy it. But I think I just bugged on how Square Enix wrote this story. They literally made it impossible for themselves to include any female characters or even more characters to be on Noctis’s Journey. I got this vibe years before the TGS 2014 trailer came out. Realistically if SE went back and try to include a woman or more characters and they couldn’t unless they rewrote the script to the story and that would affect development. Natural stories are great but
            “sometimes” they can set limitations on creativity. I understand that FFXV has it’s set story and characters and there’s nothing we can do to change it. And last I just wish we had a bigger cast of playable characters regardless of gender. FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns bummed me out. I miss having a large cast of characters to choice from like older games like FFIV, VI, VII, IX, and X. Basically more than 6 ppl. Knowing that XV has only 4 ppl maybe 5 is not what I really want. If XV had like 7-8 playable characters regardless of gender(even if they’re all guys)I be happy became more personalities and abilities to work with.

          • Nirvanes

            Yeah with that I can agree. I just don’t think that this was meant to be this way… I’m most certain that this road trip storyline was not the same storyline they were writing back when they first revealed VERSUS. There were major changes to the plot…
            Leaving that aside, I can also agree with the cast problem. It is little… miss the old days. I just hope they can make 4 great characters, most of all. Because I really hate FF XIII universe and characters.

          • Loco4Divas

            Agreed I hope they make Noctis, Ignis, Gladiolus and Prompto have pretty well developed personalities. Plus there better be a crap load bad-ass villains in this story. And a decent amount of Easter Eggs!

          • Nirvanes

            Let’s hope!

  • Loco4Divas

    I’m going to get FFXV when it comes out but one thing that really is bothering me is how Square sets up the format of this game. They made it impossible for themselves to even include 1 playable female character or even more playable characters regardless of gender in this story or to even be on the Noctis’s journey. What’s done is done because it’s way to late now to rewrite the story since the game is over 50% done. I just miss having huge cast of characters in Final Fantasy like IV, VI, VII, IX and X. Basically more than 6 ppl. I be happier if FFXV had more than 4-5 playable characters like 7-8 even if they’re all guys. More personalities and abilities to work it.

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