Not that Namco translations have been bad over the last couple of years (taking Tales of Phantasia GBA aside, that even mixed genders), but they certainly toned down a few characters dialogues, not to mention that they cut J-pop and stuff intended to be in the game like it’s some kind of plague.

But I can live with that, problem is that they take took so long and are so selective while they’re at it that we simply have no way to know (no Team Destiny game came out of Japan since… 2001, rumor says “because Namco doesn’t believe 2D games can sell outside Japan” not to mention Seven: Molmorth no Kiheitai and Venus & Braves amongst others) and this without even touching Europe, where the last Tales on a home console was Tales of Symphonia back in 2003, and even with Xenosaga, only episode 2 came out, no episode 1, and no episode 3 afterwards. (this said XSeed wouldn’t solve Europe’s problem, at least for now since they haven’t branched there yet)

Oh well, it’s like you say, they can’t get on with the times, and that often leads them to do bad decisions altogether.

Not that Namco translations have been bad over the last couple of years (taking Tales of Phantasia GBA aside, that even mixed genders), but they certainly toned down a few characters dialogues, not to mention that they cut J-pop and stuff intended to be in the game like it’s some kind of plague.

But I can live with that, problem is that they take took so long and are so selective while they’re at it that we simply have no way to know (no Team Destiny game came out of Japan since… 2001, rumor says “because Namco doesn’t believe 2D games can sell outside Japan” not to mention Seven: Molmorth no Kiheitai and Venus & Braves amongst others) and this without even touching Europe, where the last Tales on a home console was Tales of Symphonia back in 2003, and even with Xenosaga, only episode 2 came out, no episode 1, and no episode 3 afterwards. (this said XSeed wouldn’t solve Europe’s problem, at least for now since they haven’t branched there yet)

Oh well, it’s like you say, they can’t get on with the times, and that often leads them to do bad decisions altogether.

Seriously, most NA publishers have smartened up, but Namco just refuses and it is really starting to bother me. If they don’t want to localize their own games, then they should let someone else do it!!!!!

Seriously, most NA publishers have smartened up, but Namco just refuses and it is really starting to bother me. If they don’t want to localize their own games, then they should let someone else do it!!!!!

Instead, they would rather spend 20 million to 100 million dollars developing a high-resolution hd 1080p (eye candy only) videogame that only turns out to be mediocre in the end. Having the most powerful consoles to develop videogames for doesn’t mean shit. There are some many mediocre big budgeted triple-a titles for the ps3/360/pc that have been released this year, it makes me laugh. So much hype for mediocre games. The Nintendo Wii console is the only console that offers something different. The other two consoles are identical. Nintendo is only one that took a huge risk this generation. And it paid off. ($$$)

Hopefully developers will come around an start making games for the Nintendo Wii console, despite it being underpowered. (which i doubt) They can spend less money and still develop great games. (hopefully not mediocre games)

Instead, they would rather spend 20 million to 100 million dollars developing a high-resolution hd 1080p (eye candy only) videogame that only turns out to be mediocre in the end. Having the most powerful consoles to develop videogames for doesn’t mean shit. There are some many mediocre big budgeted triple-a titles for the ps3/360/pc that have been released this year, it makes me laugh. So much hype for mediocre games. The Nintendo Wii console is the only console that offers something different. The other two consoles are identical. Nintendo is only one that took a huge risk this generation. And it paid off. ($$$)

Hopefully developers will come around an start making games for the Nintendo Wii console, despite it being underpowered. (which i doubt) They can spend less money and still develop great games. (hopefully not mediocre games)

Most of us, adult gamers have little time to play though, it’s not just you, I have litterally a pile of games to finish, in the dozens and I plan to go through them to a point I even question if I should hype myself for new games; but I do and I keep buying them, like most of us really.

On top of that I’ve been a Tales-tard for quite some time now, so I can’t help but being specially personal regarding it (that, and Shin Megami Tensei), although I stress I’m not ilogical, what you see me saying regarding this theme, you’d see me saying last gen when I didn’t even had a PS2, and wasn’t exactly thrilled to get one, but it did make sense, and I actually initially bought a PSone for the Tales games. It’s not like I’m blind and I won’t ever say that any Tales game is perfect for instance, you could see me “bashing” pretty much any Tales game and still like it, or “be happy with the end result” I’m not, in this case at all, mainly due to their approach to it, sure, but it doesn’t mean I deeply dislike the game.

I wouldn’t import a game if I thought I wouldn’t enjoy it, for example (hell, I wouldn’t even buy the localized version knowing I wouldn’t enjoy it), and I did import this one and I’ll buy it again in English, I did put my opinion of it above too, and I know I am mostly negative towards it (that’s just me, really) and it’s a wall of text, but I said it had a faster battle system than Abyss and has a better plot than Symphonia, those are positive things under all the criticism I gave it, but they are there nonetheless.

I never said it sucked though (and if someone said it sucked I’d kinda defend the game), but I still stand by everything I said.

@ Rolando – yeah, I got the vibe ever since I saw the CG that it was their idea of somewhat appealing to westerners if they ever localized it. Would still be positive though, better that than nothing.

Most of us, adult gamers have little time to play though, it’s not just you, I have litterally a pile of games to finish, in the dozens and I plan to go through them to a point I even question if I should hype myself for new games; but I do and I keep buying them, like most of us really.

On top of that I’ve been a Tales-tard for quite some time now, so I can’t help but being specially personal regarding it (that, and Shin Megami Tensei), although I stress I’m not ilogical, what you see me saying regarding this theme, you’d see me saying last gen when I didn’t even had a PS2, and wasn’t exactly thrilled to get one, but it did make sense, and I actually initially bought a PSone for the Tales games. It’s not like I’m blind and I won’t ever say that any Tales game is perfect for instance, you could see me “bashing” pretty much any Tales game and still like it, or “be happy with the end result” I’m not, in this case at all, mainly due to their approach to it, sure, but it doesn’t mean I deeply dislike the game.

I wouldn’t import a game if I thought I wouldn’t enjoy it, for example (hell, I wouldn’t even buy the localized version knowing I wouldn’t enjoy it), and I did import this one and I’ll buy it again in English, I did put my opinion of it above too, and I know I am mostly negative towards it (that’s just me, really) and it’s a wall of text, but I said it had a faster battle system than Abyss and has a better plot than Symphonia, those are positive things under all the criticism I gave it, but they are there nonetheless.

I never said it sucked though (and if someone said it sucked I’d kinda defend the game), but I still stand by everything I said.

@ Rolando – yeah, I got the vibe ever since I saw the CG that it was their idea of somewhat appealing to westerners if they ever localized it. Would still be positive though, better that than nothing.

The odds of Namco-Bandai localizing any of their DS Tales games seem very slim; and if they even do consider Tales of Hearts for localization, I’m willing to bet it’d be the CG Edition of the game.

The odds of Namco-Bandai localizing any of their DS Tales games seem very slim; and if they even do consider Tales of Hearts for localization, I’m willing to bet it’d be the CG Edition of the game.

I haven’t finished Tales of Symphonia on GC yet and don’t plan on playing ToS2, so I’ve only taken a glance at the interview/posts, especially yours since they’re extremely long.

I’m 29 and work 5 days a week, barely have time to play games even during the weekend, so I don’t have time to read anyone’s diatribe or discuss things point by point, which is something I would do when I was 20 years old and had plenty of time. If I have time I better use it to play the games that I haven’t finished.

No offense man, it’s just that the constant whining does get old. I read Siliconera for the news that interest me, and many people’s comments enlighten me because they I learn a lot from them, many people are more knowledgeable than me. For me it’s simple, I play games because they’re fun, not to bicker on minute things, like this Wii game sucks, developer not putting effort into this Wii game again, etc. People get tired of it, and that’s why you changed your handle.

I haven’t finished Tales of Symphonia on GC yet and don’t plan on playing ToS2, so I’ve only taken a glance at the interview/posts, especially yours since they’re extremely long.

I’m 29 and work 5 days a week, barely have time to play games even during the weekend, so I don’t have time to read anyone’s diatribe or discuss things point by point, which is something I would do when I was 20 years old and had plenty of time. If I have time I better use it to play the games that I haven’t finished.

No offense man, it’s just that the constant whining does get old. I read Siliconera for the news that interest me, and many people’s comments enlighten me because they I learn a lot from them, many people are more knowledgeable than me. For me it’s simple, I play games because they’re fun, not to bicker on minute things, like this Wii game sucks, developer not putting effort into this Wii game again, etc. People get tired of it, and that’s why you changed your handle.

Also of course all platforms have good games, but I don’t see the purpose of stating that as if anyone stated otherwise. Believe or not I have plenty on my table with the platforms I own, and don’t need other one at this point. I want/deserve the best bang for my buck though; that’s only natural for anyone provided they’re informed enough, so it’s only natural that such customer doesn’t like to be treated like a second rate customer, specially when there’s no apparent reason for that to happen, as is the “Tales of” series case in the platform in point.

I’m not even discussing the other platforms at this point though, I’m saying this is a subpar effort for a ToS sequel, that it was greenlighted on the basis of recycling 5 year old assets, it lacks ambition, effort and budget… And it shouldn’t, thus it has no excuse. Based on conjecture, the fact that ToS is their highest selling Tales game ever, and from having played the game.

And… Wii Music is not shovelware despite the wave of internet hate going on, not aimed at the core public sure, but not shovelware, but I digress discussing that is going quite offtopic; know that I have nothing against it though (I agree the E3 approach to it was horrible though).

Also of course all platforms have good games, but I don’t see the purpose of stating that as if anyone stated otherwise. Believe or not I have plenty on my table with the platforms I own, and don’t need other one at this point. I want/deserve the best bang for my buck though; that’s only natural for anyone provided they’re informed enough, so it’s only natural that such customer doesn’t like to be treated like a second rate customer, specially when there’s no apparent reason for that to happen, as is the “Tales of” series case in the platform in point.

I’m not even discussing the other platforms at this point though, I’m saying this is a subpar effort for a ToS sequel, that it was greenlighted on the basis of recycling 5 year old assets, it lacks ambition, effort and budget… And it shouldn’t, thus it has no excuse. Based on conjecture, the fact that ToS is their highest selling Tales game ever, and from having played the game.

And… Wii Music is not shovelware despite the wave of internet hate going on, not aimed at the core public sure, but not shovelware, but I digress discussing that is going quite offtopic; know that I have nothing against it though (I agree the E3 approach to it was horrible though).

It’s amazing, Pedro Silva only used the word moneyhat once. Really, it’s okay to like more that one console.