• Guest

    Holy hell thats long. Im gonna finish it I swear but from the first few paragraphs I’m gonna say your opinion = Bad Metroid, Good Game? It was my prediction after reading your pre-Playtest last night. *continues reading

    • http://www.carpefulgur.com SpaceDrake

      Basically. It isn’t “really” a traditional Metroid game – but on its own merits, it’s still very, very good (once you get past the opening hour or so, which I kind of suspect was done earlier and they never went back and polished). And Ishaan rather has a point here – mixing up the Metroid formula and trying to experiment with it isn’t a *bad thing*. Experimentation is good. Experimentation is (part) of what this industry needs to survive. After being accused of stagnation, you can’t say that Nintendo didn’t try something different this go-round.

  • Happy Gamer

    LOL i shouldn’t have read review on 1up and saw this..i had such high hopes for this game. i knew it would be very diff from prime but i been hearing alot of “complaints” which is not a bad thing.

    i have been playing the trilogy and will not play M until i finish the 2nd and 3rd.

    but knowing some things i don’t think i will mind either.

    I think i will enjoy this game regardless.

  • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

    Darn this didnt help, lol. Again with Metroid I find myself dying to experience the story but put off my the things such as difficulty and odd design choices (forced 1st person moments, instant kills, controls). But this made it seem like the story is amazing of sorts and Samus voice fits.

    Is there an easy or casual mode (one button automatic mode)

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Those things are a problem the first time around, yea. Second, not so much. There’s no easy mode, but you can unlock a Hard mode. :P

      • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

        Darn no easy mode?! People like me will have such tough time getting through it. Thanks for these lenghty thoughts though, guess Ill put this game on my list of games to get this holiday season.

        Hm it would be my first Metroid game ever…

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          First?! I wouldn’t recommend starting with this one then. A lot of the fanservice (and there’s tons of fanservice) will be lost on you. Get Zero Mission for the GBA first. :)

          • MisterNiwa

            I agree. You can’t start without the real Metroid Sugar.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

          Yeah, considering this is a very heavy-story game, I wouldn’t make this your first Metroid game. Like Ishaan said, start with Zero Mission. It’s a remake of the original Metroid with extra original content as well. I haven’t played Other M yet, but from what I gather, it may be better to play Fusion before Other M, as well, even though it takes place chronologically afterwards.

          For the record, in case anyone cares, I’ve played every Metroid game [except Other M, and I should be playing that soon] and Fusion is my favorite. It’s a more linear game veiled behind an open map, but I really liked everything in the game. The bossfights are awesome and the way you get your powers makes the most sense of all the games, I think

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            I really liked some of the stuff they did with the SA-X in Fusion. The way she stalks you around the BSL can be really creepy the first time around. And I really liked the way the game ended. Leaves so many possibilities open for Metroid 5. :)

  • Kris

    Wow, Other M has sounded like an insane experiment ever since it was announced. That said, it’s interesting to hear that it’s (kind of) paid off. Regardless of whether I’ll love it or not, I think that that kind of curveball deserves to be rewarded. Can’t wait to play it when I’m back from Tokyo.

  • shion16

    Ive decided to buy Metroid Trilogy before this one

    • Happy Gamer

      i did this too and man i really really regretted not getting it long ago when it was abundant. its very pricey online. i was ortunate enough to get a mint copy, 99% perfect one for same price as new. plus 3 dollar shipping. its really worh it tho.

    • Happy Gamer

      oh also, the controls alone make the game 1000000 times more fun. i played thru first game on cube way back in 2002. i cannot begin to explain how much more awesome it is with the wiimote. i never played 2nd and 3rd for some odd reason…it happens to me sometimes even when i know the games are gonna be goood i just don’t pick it up due to time etc. wutever distraction.

      • http://photovoltaik.bandcamp.com/ Ujn Hunter

        It’s awesome for right handed people maybe. I can’t play it without classic controls. MP3 was therefore the worst Metroid game ever for me… well until this one probably. ;)

  • andref

    So far I have only read the review from gameinformer which was a smorgazboard of negativity and read IGN’s which was like looking way too much on the brightside. This is a good review, lot’s of detail and explanations of what was liked and what was not liked. These are the types of review I like to see even if it isn’t always convenient for reviewers to put so this much detail into their writings

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_37LGLDUAOLAYVF46BDOHLBPVKA Vinh

    It was interesting how [censored]. That was a fun twist [censored]. My favorite powerup in the game was also the Speed Booster. Nothing beats Shinespark jumping through hallways to speed up backtracking.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Sorry! I had to edit your comment. That’s a MASSIVE spoiler, and I’m sure a lot of people will be ticked off if they see it. :)

      • Code

        Thanks x_x; I might not be buying day one, but if anything this mysterious plot point everyone keeps mentioning, is definitely going to drive me to play this at some point! I’d hate to see it spoiled too soon~!

  • http://etherealtech.wordpress.com/ lex_21

    This was without a doubt, one of the best reviews I have read. Not just for Other M, but all games in general. Though I had a feeling of dread while I read the initial section of the review, the way you tied everything at the end of the article made me even more excited for this game.

    It seems as if you wanted to get past the bad stuff as soon as possible to explain why Other M really shines. All things told, this game looks like a blast from start to finish. I’m also glad you didn’t give the game a score – it seems like scores are simply not representing Other M the way they should.

    Anyway, fantastic review. I can’t wait until Tuesday.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Thanks for the praise! I’m glad you liked it. I spent a good portion of the weekend working on it. :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

    Extremely well-written playtest. I thought this was written much better than the reviews from many of the “main-stream” sites. I’m glad to hear this experiment paid off in the end. Part of me always feels bad when designers try something new and it fails horribly so they never try anything new ever again, and this merging of genres (TPS and FPS) was really a revolution of its own.

    I’m really hoping for a new 2D Metroid, though. 3DS perhaps?

  • Code

    Excellent! Loads of information, and honestly going back to re-watching some of the footage I definitely catch some of the things that’s been mentioned, and I now understand the abundance of “flailing”, is the dodge mechanic which chances are that looks a whole lot slicker when you’ve had a few hours with the game to master dodging, but early on it’s going to look a little messy. Although I can’t say I’m buying right now, but it’s an interesting title to watch and see how it does, it’s taking a risk with the Metroid formula, and trying something fresh, particularly when it comes to plot. In general I’ve always wanted to see Nintendo themselves push and maybe take greater risks with there titles when it comes to story, but still sometimes you gotta bring new people to the table to get change happening. Plus at the same time as much as I enjoyed Prime in the end, I’m glad it’s done, I love 2D Metroid, and 3D first-person Metroid was stellar, but it’s time to move on.My only wish from everything I’ve read and seen was that Samus reflected a more hardened personality, the closest approximation to how I imagined her personality to be would have been more akin to The Boss from MGS3.

  • Happy Gamer

    From What I read Ishaan, in the end, you are a gamer, you enjoyed the game, and it was fun! :)

    playing prime triology almost done with first. 2nd and 3rd incoming, other M on pre order for pick up. gonna be a metroidathon for next few weeks for me LOL

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Haha, are you playing the Prime trilogy for the first time? You’re in for some of the best moments in gaming. Oh, and don’t let anyone tell you Prime 2 sucks! :P

      • Happy Gamer

        haha, actually i played the 1st on the cube way back but didn’t finish it with maybe 3 artifacts left due to save game curruptions :(

        playing it again now with wii controls its even more fun!

  • malek86

    “In this regard, it’s comparable to Metroid Fusion, which was a much more linear experience.”

    Urge to kill… rising…

    Anyway. It does look like the good outweighs the bad, but I’m not that ready to forgive linearity and spotty controls. I will probably pick this up eventually, though not at full price.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

      Yeah, it’s like a reverse Castlevania situation, which started linear and then became more open in later games

  • gatotsu911

    “What I don’t understand, as is the case with a lot of Other M’s design, is how this was allowed to make it into the final product.”
    This is presumably because Sakamoto was granted Protection from Editors (TV Tropes!!) for the project, and soon he may (hopefully) regret it.

    Also, you mention a second playthrough; does this game have multiple difficulty levels. That would be very helpful to know.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      100% completion unlocks the Hard difficulty, which is a little…different…from before.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

        Different how? Is it like in Ninja Gaiden Black (coincidental comparison) where the harder difficulties yield different enemy types at each encounter, i.e. you face harder enemies earlier on than normal or you face a whole new set of enemies not encountered in easier difficulties? Or is it like most games, which is annoying, where you take more damage and enemies have more hit points i.e. the lazy way to make a game more difficult?

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          There are no items in Hard mode. :P

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

            hahaha Wow. That’s going to be fun

  • http://twitter.com/nikochanr3 niko

    I don’t think (and i bet a lot of you once playing it feel the same) it’s a hard game at all. The first hour or so you are getting used to the controls, but it’s not like died so many times, and I doubt you will either. I have seen several reviews which all it hard and i’m at a loss. Demon Souls is HARD. Ninja Gaiden was hard. This game is unituitive.

    • Guest

      Disagree. This game is not unintuitive its just challenging like Ninja Gaiden.
      Ninja Gaiden/Metroid: Other M are challenging. You have all the necessary moves and weapons at your disposable and its just matter of skill. Everything feels fine you just gotta get better at it.

  • kariohki

    I’ve played most of Zero Mission and recently beat Super Metroid because I had this on preorder. I hope it’s not TOO difficult…I’ll probably be waiting for guides before I start playing XD

  • Ren

    The thing I really noticed on this game were the details. Like how suddenly the CG cutscene I was watching became a normal one and I didn’t even noticed, then how it suddenly became playable, how the models, textures and lightining are superb(aside from the water and the mirrors on the female restroom wich in a strange turn of fate can’t reflect Samus. But details, right), and how the low battery indicator aligned with your visor on the first person view.

    I also liked how I wasn’t really afraid of dying after it happened the fist time, since I was always taken to somewhere near where I died. I’m sad to know that I probably won’t have time to continue playing until next week. Well, at least more great time killers until I confine myself to Pokemon B&W for the next month. Playing the japanese version first is always the best with Pokemon.

  • http://photovoltaik.bandcamp.com/ Ujn Hunter

    That screenshot of Samus with the 3 Haze/Halo Space Marines is the worst crime ever committed in Video Games… it’s on par with killing 10,000 puppies. Nintendo should be ashamed and commit seppuku immediately.

  • http://twitter.com/Fish_Head Maxon Foster

    I feel that this review does not deserve the praise that it is receiving. Your review shows a clear lack of understanding of old-school Nintendo, what this game is supposed to harken back to. This idea of “Nintendo Curve” has only shown up in the last few years. There’s a reason that “Nintendo Hard” is on TV Tropes. Nintendo games used to be hard, with little to no tutorial. The author has clearly never played a Super Nintendo as using “The D-Pad to move in a 3D space” was difficult for him. I don’t the observed game flaws or successes, however I feel that all comparisons and contrasts drawn are done by a person who holds the Prime Trilogy in the highest esteem and had never completed any other Metroid game, with the exception of the two GBA games, both of which were created as tributes the previous 2D Metroids on the NES, SNES, and GameBoy.

    Learn what you’re talking about before you talk about it.

  • Scallion

    I hate fanboys so much.

  • Nathan

    Your review is about the most complete review that I have read about the game – I have read 24 reviews so far. Who would EVER think of replaying a Metroid game? Apparently not many reviewers played this game a second time because you’re the first one to mention that the movies are skippable on a second play through. Congratulations on a job well done.

    Just to add my two cents. After reading that many reviews I have reached the conclusion that a) I need to play this game to come to a decision, and b) I am probably going to like it. I do like the Prime series by the way. I have also read most, if not every, English interview that has been done with Sakamoto and company.

    The one thing that has been made vary clear in all the interviews is that, for Sakamoto, the way Retro, Miyamoto, and Tanabe chose to reimagine the Metroid series in Prime was a completely off his radar. So any comparisons between Other M and Prime are probably more in the minds of fans then in the minds of the Japanese directors, producers, etc. In some ways in would be interesting to imagine what the reaction would have been if this game was released before the Prime series. As it is we need to go into it acting like Prime was a different take on the same character as leave it at that point.

    One big thing that has come out of the reviews is that it will be very interesting to read reviews from Japan, because this game’s overall approach sounds very much like the story is heavily grounded in the Japanese culture.

    For example, Samus’ way of relinquishing her powers to Adam’s decisions is a very Japanese way of showing that she still respects Adam; not necessarily that she is caving into some masculine vs feminine power struggle. We Westerners do not have this mentality in our culture, so we make – what in my opinion – are statements that completely ignore that fact that the West may have one interpretation of Samus and what it means for her to be a bounty hunter but the Japanese may understand the character and what that all means a little bit differently. It maybe would have come across better to Western eyes if instead of Adam’s character being a man the CO was a woman.

    This game may go down in history as a Japanese game that for some odd reason – aka the character is more popular in the West than in the East – actually came out in the wrong place first.

  • crunc

    This review has gotten me even more interested. And with Kmart having the crazy deal on it ($20 gaming coupon with purchase and $20 off Metroid Prime Trilogy or some others when purchased together), I think I’m going to go stop at the kmart across the street from work that use to have plenty of copies of Trilogy left. Hopefully still. I’ve never really played any Metroid game yet. I tried Fusion and didn’t like it much at all, though. Mainly because of invisible paths you just had to blindly search for. It sounds like maybe this game doesn’t do that kind of junk.

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