Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together Has A 665MB Data Install

By Ishaan . October 18, 2010 . 10:25am

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Some PSP games tend to have long or frequent loading times that can get in the way of your fun. This, however, won’t be an issue with the PSP remake of Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together, series creator, Yasumi Matsuno, assured his followers on Twitter earlier today.

 

Matsuno got to try out a retail sample of the game on a PSP-3000, and was taken aback by the speed with which the game loaded, considering that it was running off of a UMD. Transitions from the overhead world to the battlefield, Matsuno says, only take 1 second.

 

Next, Matsuno proceeded to install the game to his PSP, revealing that Wheel of Fortune allows for a 665MB Data Install. He tweeted that this made the game load even faster overall, and specifically pointed the transitions to the battlefield as loading quicker.

 

Square Enix are selling a collector’s pack of Let Us Cling Together on their online store. At 9,980 yen ($120), in addition to the game, it contains the soundtrack, a set of tarot cards (which are also available if you pre-order), and an illustration signed by Akihiko Yoshida packed in a box designed to resemble an oil painting. You can listen to two pieces from the soundtrack at the game’s website.

 

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together is due for release on November 11th. In addition to the collector’s edition, you can grab a regular UMD copy for 5,980 yen (about $70) or a digital version off the PlayStation Network for 4,980 yen ($60). A North American and European release are planned, but no dates have been announced yet.


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  • kupomogli

    This is good. Developers have gotten really good with PSP load times. Oath in Felghana also has less than a second load times.

    • MGSBigBoss

      i wanna buy oath of felghana but short on money im buying god of war ghost of sparta, Z.H.P : Unlosing Ranger vs DarkDeath Evilman, and a playstation move. Ys will have to wait :(

      • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

        ZHP is going to be awesome!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jstack Jon Stachewicz

        Oath in Felghana is literally the best video game I have ever played. The other games will still be there when you’re done, but you owe it to yourself as a gamer to try YsF ASAP

  • http://www.facebook.com/jstack Jon Stachewicz

    Well gee, I sure HOPE an SNES remake has fast load times!

    • kupomogli

      Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 5, and Final Fantasy 6 say hello. Even Tactics Ogre on the PSX has somewhat long load times compared to the SNES title but seeing as it’s a tactical RPG and not your standard RPG it’s not as noticeable because it doesn’t load near as often.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jstack Jon Stachewicz

        Yeah but there’s like

        A difference between the late 1990s and 2010 in terms of game hardware

  • Arcm

    Looks like i have to upgrade from a 2 gig stick to an 8 now even more so. MGS: PW pretty much needed to be installed to fully enjoy it so I might as well upgrade to install all my games that have that option.

  • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

    Heh the funny thing is that I love the PSP for PSPmakes…Im kind of interested in this game because any square enix tactics game was always able to win me over with its story. I guess people played the original or know more than I do on this, but would this game have a charming story as the other tactics games?

    I have either an 8GB or 4GB pro duo, this data install is no isshu.

    • Exkaiser

      Wait, I thought you hated the idea of remakes? You always complain about it in other news posts.

      Anyways, Tactics Ogre has a story equal to or better than FFT. I don’t think you would call either story “charming,” but they are good.

      • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

        Not charming, like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 1 and 2?Remakes have to be content originating from PS2 era games or newer for me to enjoy them (like Disgaea or Persona 3 Portable), anything before hand is usually just archaic ye old as dirt type stuff that I cant ever imagine to have any value existing in a new and repainted form. Unless the game were completely remade and overhauled (new visuals, new soundtrack, rewritten story; basically given, as Subway says, “the works”). To my understanding this game is a remake of the GBA Tactics Ogre game.

        • Shadow_Raskolnik

          Nope, this game is a remake of the first Tactics Ogre for the SNES.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000301072427 Mark Shaver

          Yes, because any game pre-ps2 is completely irrelevant and has no place in the world of gaming. There were NEVER any good games for those old fossils!

          And if I remember correctly, Tactics ogre for the GBA was a remake of a NES or SNES game. I don’t know because I’d never heard of it until Square decided to make this particular remake.

          • Shadow_Raskolnik

            The Tactics Ogre for the GBA was a gaiden game that takes place before this one. It was developed by Quest before they were absorbed by Square Enix and it was published here by Atlus sometime around 2002 I believe.

            Unfortunately Matsuno had no hand in it’s development so there’s a chance he could retcon it out of the series if he wishes.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            You Said:”Seriously, you can’t appreciate any books or movies older then 10 years from now. That’s quite sad, especially since alot of the best films that defined and redefined the film industry emerged around the 20s-40s and 60s-70s.”

            I guess I just like the stories of friendship, and teenage love, and what not. The olden films just arent appealing to me, I guess its just feels different than those of today. Sure it may be the “best” time in the industry according to critics or something, but I just couldnt get into them, books as well.

            You Said: “As using Madden 2005 as an example of a game you wouldn’t play in 2010 is a bad example overall since sports games are typically updated every year with slight tweaks and graphical overhauls in order to reflect the current sports atmosphere and the technology present.”

            I think it was fitting to show the idealogy that people would have of olde games. Games made in 1995 remade in 2010…really in most cases slight tweaks are made to the games.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            I dont mean to sound mean, but most games pre-ps2 era are just to old to appeal to naught but the most hardened crowd. Unless the game was a true masterpiece that bombed in sales because of lack of appeal, there really is no need to go back to those games. And let us be real here, can anyone honestly try to persuade people in this day and age to try or play any pre-ps2 era game that isnt Sonic or Mario? I think this essentially justifies the need to give up focusing on remakes.

            Wow, lol, this is a remake of an SNES game? Guess I will have to watch out for the playtests/reviews/impressions to see if people feel that it doesnt feel archaic/too retro for me.

          • Exkaiser

            “If I didnt play the game in 2004…why would I want to play the game in 2010?”

            Your reasoning is awful. “If I didn’t read Les Miserables in 1862, why would I read it in 2010?” “If I didn’t watch Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, why would I watch it in 2010?” “If I didn’t play Tetris in 1984, why would I play it in 2010?”

          • dashutdown

            Look I don’t know what your vendetta is but you would be well advised to just keep your thoughts to yourself. Is the fact that literally not one person has agreed with your impertinent statments clear enough representation that you are in the minority? At least in this intelligent gaming society that has obviouly experienced nearly every era of gaming ( i’m sure if you went to a call of duty forum frequented by 13 year olds you would be better recieved). I’m 19 and I consider the snes/ps1 eras to be the pinnacle of gaming, and i assure you no rose tinted glasses rest over my eyes. I personally don’t see how any unbiased person could play Final Fantasy 6 and then 13 or even 10 and say that the latter are superior. The fact that you condemned classic writing and then mentioned the twilight series is beyond laughable. Have a good day bro.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/Ojsinnerz Firo_Prochainezo

          You’re the reason why the industry is dying. I hope you’re happy.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            Industry is dying? Have you seen the awesome games that have come out this generation? How can the industry be dying when we have reached one of the most epic times in game development; games brought to life through the use of high powered graphics allowing more engrossing presentations to complement and or reinvigorate gaming genres. There were so many gaming gems this year across the HD consoles…Ill even say the Wii had one or two as well. Im glad to be a “gamer” in this generation.

            I do know, I think remakes just impede innovation and moving forward…sort like feelings of deja vu. Maybe its nice for fan service or something…but for people who were not fans of the original, it seems like a remake would need massive additions to encourage people who missed the games the first time to consider getting it. Only in a rare few instances is a remake creative/overhauled enough to sway people. Well thats how I see it.

          • Exkaiser

            The entire point of a remake of an old game is so that people who missed out the first time to be able to play it again.

            Well, that, and to wring money out of fans a second time.

            What’s your problem with old games, buddy?

        • Exkaiser

          This is a remake of a SNES game. Knight of Lodis for the GBA is a different game, but it basically played the same.

          And, no, the tone of the game is serious, like FFT. Completely different from FFTA and FFTA2, which also means that it’ll have an excellent story, unlike those two.

      • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

        You pinned the tail on the donkey! That is to say, you have in your post identified the problem with “old games”…the games are just ye olde as dirt. If I didnt play the game in 2004…why would I want to play the game in 2010? lol. Thats like saying, if I didnt play Madden 2005 in 2005 why would I play Madden 2005 in 2010? Olde games are just ye olde as dirt, outdated, archaic, ancient, seen better days, beyond their time of glory–I just dont know how to further say that the games are just olde.

        Comparing the presentation values of games of 2010 with games of pre-Ps2 era shows that those games just do not compare. I cant see in any shape or form how those games would be fun to play. First, one would need to overcome the archaic highly polygonal graphics (you can visibly see the sharp jagged edges, yuck!) and the embarrassing sound quality. Next one would need to overcome generally brutal difficulty, it is my belief based on comments from people on this site, that ye games of olde were much more difficult than games of today. I happened to have the honor of seeing and playing a PS1 as of late and some demo disc of Metal Gear Solid…lets just say that that was one of the hardest demos Ive ever played (and I did not even make it out of that warehouse was it, I couldnt tell).

        The games should just stay on their respective olde systems and people who have the nostalgia sunglasses on can enjoy them and relive and cherish their moments…just keep these games and desires of remakes away from this golden age of gaming. Well thats my stance.

        • Code

          *face palm* rarr, maan this is why people are getting more and more fired up. To put it in prospective, you mentioned your first system was a PS2-era, for a lot of gamers here PS2/GCN era was like there 4th or 5th generation system, they have been gaming for 10-20+ years, before PS2 came out. In posts above you said “no need to go back to those games”, and “And let us be real here, can anyone honestly try to persuade people in this day and age to try or play any pre-ps2 era game that isnt Sonic or Mario?”, saying that here at Siliconera is like walking onto a football field and having to announce to everyone there you think football is stupid — rar, it’s so unbelievably disrespectful of this community and in my opinion gaming as a whole!Sure there are obviously exceptions, like sports games which focus on simply improving/changing/updating a formula year in and year out (although I still hear Ice Hockey on the NES is one of the best hockey games of all time >w<;). But surely you understand JUST because Final Fantasy XIII came out on the PS3 and is newer, it does not hold any more weight to Final Fantasy VI on the Super Nintendo. They are both stories and act of creativity — just because one came out more recently then the other obviously doesn’t make it completely better in every way/shape and form. I’m sorry if you don’t feel like going back and learning gaming roots, but you can be pro-modern gaming without having tell everyone retro gaming sucks in your eyes, like it justifies your pro-modern stance even more.rar, games are like books, movies, paintings, music and all kinds of other things, you don’t just disregard there artistic and creative merit because they are old. Nothing could show more disrespect to gaming as a creative medium then treating it like you are.rar, also how is calling games “dirt” not trolling omo’

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            Maybe Im just out of touch with what is here…but it seems there are tons more stories and articles made on newer modern games versus retro games. I do not think my statements were disrespectful of this community, I did not say that it was bad to play these games and what not, just that it is more interesting and intriguing to see that focus is given on newer, original, creative, and innovative games. People and their nostalgia, Im all for it…I just do not have a pair of these glasses to be able to take pride in ye games as olde as dirt.I think youre not giving enough credit to games of new times. Unless Im reading it wrong youre making it seem that only old games deserve artistic and creative merit. Maybe Im just opposite of what alot of people enjoy, im newer like newer stuff and see it as golden, while others like older and see it as older…sortta like when kids like the new and adults and gramps like old. Oh well I think it leads for interesting discussion…I did not call the games dirt, their just that old…games out before I was even established in grade school and what not.

          • Code

            You called them “ye olde as dirt, outdated, archaic, ancient, seen better days, beyond their time of glory” a good portion of this community grew up with these games, there is no way that isn’t an insult, and you did call them dirt xpx;

            “I think youre not giving enough credit to games of new times. Unless Im reading it wrong youre making it seem that only old games deserve artistic and creative merit.”

            Yes, you did read me wrong then, new and old games deserve respect not dependent on when they were released, or what system they were released on.

            Siliconera is a news site though obviously, hence many news stories here will be about the latest titles. But just take a look a few of the “facebook files” and other articles, hell even the comments sections and you’ll find this site is more then just a two dimensional news feed which only covers the latest news. One of the reasons I post here at Siliconera is the fact people here have that love, appreciation, and respect for games new and old.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            “Siliconera is a news site though obviously, hence many news stories here will be about the latest titles. But just take a look a few of the “facebook files” and other articles, hell even the comments sections and you’ll find this site is more then just a two dimensional news feed which only covers the latest news. One of the reasons I post here at Siliconera is the fact people here have that love, appreciation, and respect for games new and old.”Well I will be one of the people who are in the new category. though true however, I was initially here because of the Naruto stories I saw and people who seemed excite about Naruto, and then NIS stuffs…well and a bit of stuff that just isnt covered by the other news sties…I dont think my comment should be taken as an insult. The games are olde and I was just emphasizing how olde they are too me. I think Ive gleamed from here that age is not an indication of value…age is just a barrier that exists to deter or perhaps interest and excite people into trying out such games.Like I said its just shocking to me that so many people, ie here, love and embrace these olde games. Its like if I went into some classical cinema convention…Id be shocked that people find joy in such things when in this day and age there are movies that excite and embrace new technologies, visuals, and stories.

          • Kris

            Please, please, please, stop calling older games “olde.”
            I mean, not all of them are fantastic, but there’s a reason that so many of them are called “classics.”
            I’ll take Chrono Trigger over almost any JRPG this generation. Ditto Vampire Savior over most fighters.
            One of the beautiful things about games as a medium is that good gameplay is eternal, even if visual polish and “impressive” voice acting fade with time. All of these things you seem to value most in gaming are the most ephemeral elements of game design. Listen to a Working Designs game today. What was once incredible VO is now laughable. The same applies to the formerly jaw-dropping graphics in Resident Evil 1. Your philosophy seems to focus on the fleeting stuff, and that seems to be why you don’t like older games. However, classic games still have a lot to offer, and it’s frustrating that you so blithely brush them off. You should try some of this stuff before you knock it, then maybe you’ll see where so many of us other commenters are coming from.

        • Exkaiser

          You are a terrible person. My god.

          There is no golden age of gaming. There are great games (always in the minority, Sturgeon’s law and all) in all generations. To say that only the most recent are worth playing, and that the only people who might enjoy old games are “nostalgia sunglass” wearers is absurd.

          “If I didnt play the game in 2004…why would I want to play the game in 2010?” There’s a lot of reasons you might not have played the game in 1995 (When Tactics Ogre originally came out). Perhaps you hadn’t heard of it, perhaps it was never localized (Only the PSX version was localized, in this case), perhaps you just didn’t own the system it was on back then, perhaps you were just too young to give it a try. A great game is a great game.

          “I cant see in any shape or form how those games would be fun to play.” Okay, discussion over.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            Movies and other media (books) to me is the same…I just dont enjoy classical books and its difficult to watch any movie (beyond Jurassic Park) created before 10 years ago to me. Maybe its just me but its just difficult to embrace and enjoy that stuff.

            I think I mentioned at one point that unless a masterpiece of a game just failed to take off when it was originally released or if it was just never brought out then maybe a remake of that game would be appealing since most people would have never experienced it.

            I still think the “nostalgia wearers” enjoying the old games is true. Im quite sure that most people this day and age will not be running to get the latest remake/re-release of some game from pre-ps2 era…if they had a choice wouldnt they pick an original game made during this generation? I think looking at what is sold in brick and mortar stores further solidifies my point.

          • Exkaiser

            Last I checked, plenty of remakes of old games sold well. Even the DS remakes of Dragon Quest IV and V sold well, and DQ isn’t even popular in the West. The remakes of Final Fantasy III and IV for the DS sold well, as did the PSP remake of Final Fantasy Tactics.

            I think you are confusing opinion for universal truth. There are some people who only play modern games, but there are plenty of people who also pick up remakes of games they haven’t played before. Don’t think they don’t exist just because you can’t begin to comprehend it.

            “if they had a choice wouldnt they pick an original game made during this generation? ” Maybe they want to try a classic game!? My god! Otherwise -only- these “nostalgic” people would play the remakes, which certainly isn’t true.

          • Shadow_Raskolnik

            Seriously, you can’t appreciate any books or movies older then 10 years from now. That’s quite sad, especially since alot of the best films that defined and redefined the film industry emerged around the 20s-40s and 60s-70s.

            As using Madden 2005 as an example of a game you wouldn’t play in 2010 is a bad example overall since sports games are typically updated every year with slight tweaks and graphical overhauls in order to reflect the current sports atmosphere and the technology present.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            Your examples are just remakes of high profile series…I would be foolish to say that people are not going to buy a remake of Super Mario Bros 1…the series have such large fan bases across all ages and walks of life that they will just wipe out the effect of the remakes not appealing to new people. Did any of those remakes sell more than the original title…or were the remakes essentially complete overhauls, I remember FFIII on the DS looking extensively different than the original counterpart that I was shocked to find out it was a remake when I had the game in my DS.

            Im of the belief system that there are just some opinions that are just immediately false or just completely off base that I just can not accept them without being persuaded by extensive evidence (or statistically significant evidence).

            I really think the remakes only appeal to the people wearing the nostalgia glasses is true. Apart from me…the only people who ever seemed to be excited for this Tactics Ogre were people who played it originally. The only people excited for Persona 1 or Persona 3 remakes were people who played them originally. A spare few brave souls probably picked and will pick up Tactics Ogre when they are in a store to just try it out, unawares that it is a remake.

          • Exkaiser

            Your logic is faulty because if remakes were only bought by people who already owned the game, they certainly wouldn’t sell enough to warrant remakes being made. Most remakes don’t sell as well as the originals, but they certainly sell well enough to warrant remakes as a concept to continue to exist.

            “Your examples are just remakes of high profile series…” Okay, fine, what about the recent Lunar remake, or the Lunar remake for the GBA you mentioned playing in a previous post. Or the Hoshigami remake. Breath of Fire III got a remake for the PSP, too (selling enough units to qualify for a reprint at a lowered price under the Capcom Collection label). Obviously, someone thought it was worthwhile to make them. I’m not even sure what you’re trying to argue, that game companies should just not make remakes because you don’t like old games? That’s ridiculous. Remakes sell enough to warrant remakes. It’s simple.

            “Im of the belief system that there are just some opinions that are just immediately false…” Like your own.

            I’m done here, you’re a piece of work. You think that, just because you won’t be interested in picking up a remake, no one is?

          • Caligula

            “Im of the belief system that there are just some opinions that are just immediately false or just completely off base that I just can not accept them without being persuaded by extensive evidence (or statistically significant evidence).”

            In other words: “My opinion is right, so if someone doesn’t agree with me, they’re just flat-out wrong and not worth listening to.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000301072427 Mark Shaver

            I bought Persona 3 Portable because I loved Persona 4. I wasn’t interested in the series until 4. The remake allowed to to play the new game that I hadn’t heard of before and enjoy it, give or take a few tweaks.

            I Had never heard of Tactics ogre until SE Picked it up and announced this remake. I’m excited for this game now because it looks really good, remake or not. And really, it looks like an upgraded version of FFTactics gameplay (which I also loved).

            You said yourself that you were excited for the game UNTIL you heard that it was a remake. What kind of Logic is that?

            The very point of a remake is to attract NEW people to the old games (Though I won’t deny that it’s not for the fans as well. I know I would Buy a Chrono Cross Remake in a heartbeat, even though I Played the crap outta that game when I was a kid).

            Your first sentence itself is a paradox;

            “Your examples are just remakes of high profile series…I would be foolish to say that people are not going to buy a remake of Super Mario Bros 1…the series have such large fan bases across all ages and walks of life that they will just wipe out the effect of the remakes not appealing to new people.”

            So People wouldn’t buy remakes because they’re just reboots of the same old gameplay but people will buy these remakes because they were fans of the old gameplay that made the games fun in the first place?

            And you say you love Naruto games right? Look at the Gameplay for Ultimate Ninja 1, then look at the Gameplay for Ultimate Ninja 4: “a remake with just a few tweaks here and there”.

            And all these new “Teenage love” and “Epic Battle” stories that are so “New” and “Refreshing” were played out before you were born. Same Story, new coat, worse gameplay (for the most part).

        • Caligula

          k, so I just made an account to reply to this post because this post is just ridiculous.

          1) Not everyone judges how fun a game is to play (read: not watch). You’re welcome to demand high-quality graphics, but not everyone cares. I certainly don’t. I mean, I paid to play a video game, not watch a movie.

          2) So older games are harder to you. Have you ever thought that maybe you’re just bad at those games? Just because I’m shit-terrible at FPS doesn’t mean FPS are impossible to play. That’s just a reflection of my skill level, and I’m not going to go around complaining to everyone else that FPSes aren’t fun for anyone to play just because I suck. Neither should you.

          3) You don’t like older games and think they’re past their prime. Some games don’t age well; I agree. But other games do. Lumping all old games into the “suck” category makes about as much sense as saying that all books written before 1800 are terrible because they no longer reflect society. They still retain literary value.

          4) If you don’t like remakes, then just don’t buy them and let the people who do enjoy them buy them. Problem solved.

          5) Your opinion is not fact.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            lol, you make me seem like a bad guy here :(1) I think power and the technology of today, enable games to have bolstered presentation values versus ye games of olde…to make them more enjoyable to people to complement and enrich the gameplay experience. Who wouldnt enjoy being treated to pleasurable visuals. Even 2D side scrolling shooters like Soldner X-2 Final Prototype are fun on its own, but the HD presentation makes this genre of game shine because the visuals are great (on top of being an already addictive game). It is my belief that Graphics complement Gameplay.2) People give the impression that older games are harder than games of today. I couldnt say so myself unless I found myself in a situation of fully playing through ye olde games. In this day we have casual and easy/very easy settings and I usually play through games for the experience and escape, so if a game is hard on those settings it makes it more difficult to truly escape. I do not think its bad when games are hard because they should offer some challenge and it does feel rewarding when the end goal is reached.3) Games in the retro style or just ye olde in general are past their prime and only appeal to the people of that time. I do not think they “suck” necessarily, its just they provide “been there, done that” type experiences. It seems that the community values these olde games because of the memorable experience they provided them back in the day or the value comes from some inherent value the games of ye olde being more creative and imaginative than those of today? I think books before 1800 deserve to just be placed in collections and museums but I really do not see any benefit from reading them. I cringe at the thought of reading those classics and it was painful in school (thankfully there are cliff notes, lol!) I’d glady read my Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter, Twilight Saga etc over any book of the pre-1800′s. Same as I would play any game of this generation over games of pre-ps2 era. I recognize that people do enjoy those games and I do not think its wrong of them too. I just think its shocking to prefer it over newer stuff. Place yourself in my shoes…generally introduced to console gaming at near end of PS2/GCN era, in this abundance of games…would you really want to play games of before then?

          • Caligula

            I don’t deny that graphics can complement gameplay, or that a nice presentation can make the game overall more appealing. However, I don’t think it’s an end-all kind of deal, and a game can certainly stand on its own without looking pretty. The original Tales of Destiny had pretty primitive graphics for its time; was/is it a game worth looking over because of this? Japanese sales would indicate otherwise.

            Maybe some older games are harder, but I haven’t heard that sentiment unanimously echoed elsewhere. But if you “do not think its bad when games are hard,” then why complain about the difficulty of old games? I can think of scores of people who love challenges, and the harder the better. Again, if you or other people don’t like the difficulty of a game, you don’t have to buy it or play it. No one is forcing you to purchase a too-difficult game.

            And, finally, “Games in the retro style or just ye olde in general are past their prime and only appeal to the people of that time.” Did you read the fifth point of my post? At all? That’s your opinion. Just because they don’t appeal to you doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way. My 13-year-old brother and his friends joined the gaming scene only about two years ago. Guess what’re some of their favorite games? N64 games. They’re certainly not “people of that time,” and there are plenty more kids like them, so your argument is null and void.

            And, yes, I would want to play retro games if I were in your shoes because I’m in them. I dabbled a little here and there as a kid in video games, but it was largely limited to handhelds, and I didn’t actually start truly console gaming until late 2005. I’m totally cool with playing older games.

            By the way, that’s really too bad you can’t find any value in reading older books, and not to mention kind of sad. I don’t think it’s hard at all to find the value in reading books like Gulliver’s Travels or the Odyssey. But to each their own.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            “In other words: “My opinion is right, so if someone doesn’t agree with me, they’re just flat-out wrong and not worth listening to.”‘

            Oh come on, dont be like that. Ive been persuaded by somethings here. It seems to be only a few cases where there is some gain in releasing a remake in this day and age…

          • Caligula

            Sure, you might have been persuaded by a few things here, but you did indicate earlier that you immediately give some opinions no merit whatsoever. I think it’s pretty readily apparent that you’re doing that in this case, too. You’re immediately throwing other people’s opinions out the window because you’re only looking at things from your perspective. You don’t like older games, which is fine, but then you go and assume that because they’re not fun for you, they must not be fun for anyone, and vehemently dispute any point to the contrary. Whether you realize you’re doing this or not, you’re still doing it.

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            “By the way, that’s really too bad you can’t find any value in reading older books, and not to mention kind of sad. I don’t think it’s hard at all to find the value in reading books like Gulliver’s Travels or the Odyssey. But to each their own.”

            Well I had to read the Odyssey in school once, I think I read some super abriged illustrated version of it or cliffnotes so that I could avoid the classical style, it and other classics are just mad boring.

            “And, yes, I would want to play retro games if I were in your shoes because I’m in them. I dabbled a little here and there as a kid in video games, but it was largely limited to handhelds, and I didn’t actually start truly console gaming until late 2005. I’m totally cool with playing older games.”

            You nor dont even give a reason to wanting to play these older games. I have a powerful PS3, what is one compelling reason why I should go up there on my PS3 and look at the PSN store and go to the PS1 downloads section and even look at those olde games, over say, playing this new copy of Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 or other game that game out this year?

        • http://www.facebook.com/jstack Jon Stachewicz

          But you like NIS games, so I wouldn’t think that presentation is really an issue for you…

          • http://tristsantithesis.tumblr.com/ Tsunayoshi Sawada

            I love the 2D sprite work/character art and the fusion they use with the battle graphics that I find to be utterly amazing. For games still using such sprites, I think they are top of the line games and style.

  • Guest

    I gotta imagine this will be the same sorta thing they will do for Dissidia 2 because the last one barely fit on the UMD

  • http://www.themogblog.com/ Edward Walton

    Digital Download would have more than likely still been better. Its already been proven time and again that they load faster than the largest installs these games offer.

  • Ereek

    I honestly don’t even notice load times unless they’re over two or three seconds. But I’m certainly not complaining that they’re making them lower.

    Oblivion has made me immune to horrible load times on any game.

    • Yusaku_Matsuda70s

      2-3 second load times are going into bad territory for you? O_O’

      Wait, how bad are the Oblivion load times?

      • Ereek

        No, no, you misunderstand. Or maybe I misworded. I meant that those load times aren’t bad at all. I don’t really notice one second load times and only once it hits 2 or 3 seconds do I notice them. “Noticing” doesn’t necessarily mean “bad.” just that I’m aware that they’re there.And Oblivion PC probably has the worst load times of any game I’ve played. Bethesda did an absolutely horrible job optimizing the game and even on a computer that can run it on very high easily you’ll still get FPS drops. I put it on Very Low and they’re still there! You have to use certain mods to help maximize the game’s efficiency (Streamline and Operation Optimization are examples) to actually get it to play even at a rate of 30FPS sometimes. Other times it’s fine. If put on every mod that I prefer to use the load times can take multiple minutes. Not all the time it’s that long, mind you, but it’s often enough that it gets annoying. Because of this I generally have to pick and choose. I think on average going into the field/world map I get around 40 seconds-1 minute. I don’t count.On the PS3 (I don’t know about how it is on the 360, sorry, but I hear it’s actually worse) I think they average 15 seconds or so.

        • Yusaku_Matsuda70s

          Oh somehow I missed this… anyway, yea never mind. 40 seconds to a minute is pretty bad by any standard.

  • http://flailthroughs.blogspot.com Flailthroughs

    Well, this alleviates one of my last concerns about the game. Kudos to Squenix for a pretty well-focused PR campaign here, as they’ve addressed practically everything I *didn’t* want in the game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarachnid-Malik-Davolcanese/1548060424 Aarachnid Malik Davolcanese

    Holy crap, I missed quite a discussion on this comment thread. Anywho, I’m glad that companies are making the digital versions cheaper. If they’re saving money, they should always pass the savings onto the consumer

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