The Original Final Fantasy VI Makes Its Debut In Europe

By Ishaan . March 18, 2011 . 1:03pm

Europe got to play Final Fantasy VI on the PlayStation, and on the Gameboy Advance in the form of Final Fantasy VI Advance, but they never got the original SNES game. Now, it’s finally making its debut on the Virtual Console this week for 900 Wii Points.

 

Last year at E3, we had a chance to ask Square Enix producer, Shinji Hashimoto, about a remake of Final Fantasy V and VI for the Nintendo DS.

 

Hashimoto had initially stated that there were “technical problems” with Final Fantasy V and VI being remade on the DS, and we were keen to find out what he meant.

 

“As you saw from Nintendo’s press conference yesterday, there is new hardware coming out,” Hashimoto replied to us. “We knew that was coming. We had to make decisions understanding that there were hardware changes in the near future and where want to put our resources.”

 

He followed up by saying: “Rather than creating [Final Fantasy] V or VI for the current DS, we want to take a look to see how 3DS does, how it evolves, and then make a decision.”


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  • malek86

    I can see it: FF6 remake on the 3DS, FF7 remake on the NGP.

    • Tom_Phoenix

      The latter is not likely to happen. They rejected the idea of a remake on the PS3 due to the astronomical costs such an endavour would entail. Considering that the NGP is (almost) as powerful as the PS3, chances are that doing a remake on it wouldn’t be much of an improvement in that department. Furthermore, there is also the question of whether or not the NGP will be a success at all, which, given Sony’s recent history, is anything but a sure thing.

      A 3DS remake of FF7, on the other hand, is more likely. But if Square Enix did that, they would be responsible for the death of the half of the gaming population, since everybody would end up laughing hysterically due to the sheer irony of such a turn of events.

      • Avojavo

        I’m sure if they are going to do anything with the NGP, they’d take the same approach as they mention with the 3DS. Wait and see, wait and see…

        I’m trying to think of an RPG that gave me as much fulfillment as FF6 did. Tales of Phantasia, perhaps. If they do decide to remake FF6 for the 3DS, I would be among those fans pinballing off the walls in happiness.

        • Suicunesol

          Tales of Phantasia on the 3DS… part of me wants to see it in full-3D, but another is afraid that it won’t be as detailed as a 2D version.

          Both games are kind-of deal makers for me. If NGP gets both…

        • Joanna

          Include me in that list of fans pinballing off the walls in happiness. FFVI is my favourite Final Fantasy and my second favourite RPG of all time (only CT manages to surpass it in that department).

      • malek86

        That’s something I’d like to see.

        Even better would be if they announced that they were effectively working on a FF7 remake for PS3, but ultimately canceled it in favor of a 3DS version. Oh boy.

        • Tom_Phoenix

          Oh wow. I hate to think how much flaming would ensue as a result of such an announcement. Many FF fans would go ballistic.

          But then again, I imagine they will go ballistic anyway should Square Enix announce a remake for ANYTHING other than the PS3 (which they almost certainly will, if they ever decide to do a remake of FF7).

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Grude/1117146030 Nicolai Grude

        Are you trying to compare development costs between the PS3 and a… HANDHELD?

        • Tom_Phoenix

          Why not, exactly? With the NGP, handhelds have (nearly) reached the same graphical prowess as their home counterparts, so it is only logical that development costs will skyrocket accordingly. We saw the same thing happen with home consoles (developing titles for current generation consoles is 2-3 times more expensive compared to the previous generation), so its not like there isn’t a precedent here.

          This isn’t to say that development costs for the NGP will be the same as for the PS3. If nothing else, the NGP has the benefit of not being HD, so that will make it somewhat cheaper to develop for it.

          Make no mistake, though. The high visual fidelity of the PS3/Xbox 360 took its toll on developers financially and the NGP won’t be any different.

          • Testsubject909

            Well, you also have to keep in mind that it’s easier to develop on the NGP then it is on the PSP. Though there is a graphical upgrade, there’s no necessary need to make a game as visually impressive on a handheld, so there’s far more leeway as the expectations for a handheld are properly stilted.

            Of course, there’s the fact that many are living in the illusion that the NGP can emulate the PS3 in power. It can’t, that would make the console overheat and have a lasting battery life of mere moments. It’s graphically impressive, but not that graphically impressive. It’s got near-HD capabilities, which is just fine. It’s not as if anyone needs HD on a miniature screen.

            As for the graphically intense power of the NGP, the 3DS is also within the same category, and development cost for the 3DS is a skyrocketing price in contrast to the development cost for regular DS games.

            The NGP stands a pretty fair chance against the 3DS this generation, honestly speaking.

    • kupomogli

      That’d make me get the 3DS sooner. I’m already getting the NGP early.

      • Testsubject909

        And might I add. I like the fact that you’ve got Mog as your avatar/profile picture.

        How do I know it’s Mog? He’s the only one who leans on his sword like that. He’s awesome.

    • http://myfigurecollection.net/collection/ashgail Ashgail

      I’d rather see FF6 on the NGP. It deserves all the upgrades from graphics to gameplay and as I can see, the NGP has more power in producing better graphics. However this will be determined by NGP’s popularity, unfortunately.

      • Testsubject909

        Financial analysts estimated the NGP 3G-less (Wifi enabled) to cost around 250$, and the 3G enabled to cost 350$.

        Honestly, at 250$. I’d buy one on launch.

        • http://myfigurecollection.net/collection/ashgail Ashgail

          Yeah, read about that too, but I’m really hoping that there are some reports from reputable websites (like this!) so that the sceptic in me will be at rest. I’ve made up my mind to buy an NGP anyway. My memories with the psp has been great and I intend to continue that with the successor

  • Zero_Destiny

    Oh SE holding out for the 3DS like I thought. *grins* I love you so much. I’m looking forward to seeing V and VI again on the 3DS. Please do what you did for the remake of IV. Hold true to the original but still give us some fun new stuff to play around. DO NOT change it so much that I can’t recognize it and don’t start thinking you need to “modernize” the gameplay ether. Also please return the function to name your chara’s whatever you want. I know voice-acting and all but come on Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, Suikoden all had that worked out pretty well. It’s not hard. Don’t stick us with names. It’s fun to change them. :)

  • http://twitter.com/EdgeKun Ed Powell

    “Rather than creating [Final Fantasy] V or VI for the current DS, we want to take a look to see how 3DS does, how it evolves, and then make a decision.”

    You know? I for one am completely okay with this. I would happily wait more time if it means getting an even -shinier- remake of FF5 and 6 on 3DS instead of DS. Here’s to hoping they actually go through with such an endeavor.

    • Testsubject909

      How about a shiny remake of FF5 or FF6 on a home console? And not as a PSN/XBLA title. An actual team taking two years or so to give the game a graphical upgrade to regular 3D and to not change, but add, to the gameplay and customisation?

      • Suicunesol

        I don’t think Square Enix would be willing to put in 2 years worth of development for a game that was already made once.

        If they’re going to spend lots of money, they’d want to use it on a new game.

        • LastFootnote

          This is definitely true, although with the poor reception of many of their flagship titles recently, I wonder if they wouldn’t be better off spending that 2 years on a remake.

          • Testsubject909

            Consider the story is already made, most of the items are already present, additional content was already introduced in an earlier 2D remake, the game already has a very solid 3-act story with deep enough characterisation of every character and hidden content in many corners (Cyan’s and Shadow’s dreams anyone? Or Gau’s father?) and with much of the text doing just fine.

            They could copy paste quite a lot of content, requiring, if they choose to put some effort in it, to update the combat system just slightly, which isn’t even required as the return of the ATB bar as it was showcased in FF6 would work just fine, needing just a singular act, which is, to apply a fresh coat of 3D paint on it…

            Not to say it’s an easy task. But rather that it’s a relatively cheap and shorter project that would enable a maximal profit and, on top of that, to regain much required trust, confidence, love and devotion from it’s market and fanbase.

            And seriously, who wouldn’t pay top dollars to play a late/end PS2-era graphic-wise 3D FF6… or Chrono Trigger? Or just about any other Snes classics they have…

            And I KNOW they can do it. Look at Romancing Saga for the PS2. That’s a remake of an earlier Nintendo game. If they can pull that out of their asses for a less successful franchise, why can’t they do the same for a far more profitable one like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy?

            …And then I remember the answer: Minimal effort, maximal profit, and a lot of nostalgic goggles that makes it so that they’re still liked enough for them to not give an actual damn about the fans…

  • http://twitter.com/Paradox_me Paradox me

    I’m generally against the idea of remakes since I’d rather see said resources put into brand new games, but since they seem dead set on it then I suppose I can’t complain about the decision to hold off for the 3DS.

    I just hope they go with more realistic character proportions, because I don’t think the style they were going for in the other DS remakes would suit the 3DS’s capabilities.

    • Suicunesol

      I agree with you, in general. Though giving the overworld models more realistic proportions risks eliminating the charm that the chibi-fied, original 2D sprites had.

      • Testsubject909

        I’m not quite fond of the 3D FF4 on the DS…

        Personally, if you’re going to go 3D (nonstereoscopic), then go all the way and make it look, at the very least, like a late PS1-era/early PS2-era game. That’s of course a lot of effort and money. But such effort and money would be answered well by the fans, and would encourage more people to purchase it.

        • Christ

          I agree with you, and yes, they should ditch the chibi look on the 3D remake, it just doesn’t fit. Which means no FF3/4 DS remake look. I don’t think it would loose it’s charm this way, just look at FFX, there are lots of silly/funny moments and the graphics are wonderful for their time.

          • Testsubject909

            FF4-5-6/Chrono Trigger with FFX graphics, sold on PSN/XBLA.

            You know that the fans would be willing to pay 40$, easy, just for the chance to play it.

    • Code

      I’d be against it, if it weren’t for the fact FF6 is obscenely hard to find for the most part. Between SNES, PS1, and GBA releases, all of them are pretty rare. Having digital copies would at least potentially give people access to this incredible game a little easier.

      • http://twitter.com/Paradox_me Paradox me

        True, though it is kinda sad that kids these days won’t be getting the original versions, but remakes with their fancy schmancy 3D graphics and what not.

        Hopefully stuff like Virtual Console stick around a while and continue to grow its library so that the enlightened youths can play these games the way they were meant to be played, in all of their 16-bit glory. :P

        • Saraneth

          Why would anyone want to play the 16-bit versions? That’d be like willingly eating a taco without the hot sauce.

          • SolidusSnake

            See Feynman’s comment above. There’s also SE’s recent history of fail, and the fact that many people would prefer to play their favorite games in the original, unmolested format. Maybe someone at Square Enix will make a contract with you so their company will stop sucking.

          • Saraneth

            Even if their recent games are full of fail (not necessarily true as Twewy (another 2d game, but still) was quite good) it’d be pretty hard for them to screw up a remake. The FFIV remakes on the DS is good, so a 3d remake of FFVI would be nice. I don’t mind 2d so long as the sprites are higher resolution or look better in some way. It’s just that if it stays in 2d it’s more likely to have bland visuals – just look at all the gray in the screen shots on this page and on the FFIV PSP remake pages.

          • Testsubject909

            I’m willingly playing the 16 bit version of many games. Such as Actraiser or Super Metroid.

            They look nothing short of stunning and awesome. And anyhow, there’s a bunch of retro-style games with down to 8-bit graphics that people are going crazy over.

            So what’s wrong with 16-bit? Graphics does not a game make. Certainly it aids in the presentation, but style and attention to detail can make 16-bit a splendor to wonder at.

      • Feynman

        I’m okay with a re-release, but I don’t see the point of doing a full polygonal remake. FFVI is one of the most gorgeous 16-bit games ever made, and I don’t think the charm will translate well to the 3rd dimension.

        • Code

          I think it potentially could >w<; but agreed, FFVI is beautiful and at that point it's not a case of improving the games visuals as much as, doing them differently opo so yeah, I'd just be happy seeing it on something so it'd be accessible in any capacity. It's a little heart breaking so many kids, even as little as 5 years younger then me haven't experienced FF6.

          • Testsubject909

            And many of these kids probably don’t want to either because they’re “Not into Retro games”.

            Oh but you could always state that there’s been great success in retro-like games. Sure, but there is a fine paint job on them. And additionally, they’re typically not JRPGs, a type of game that’s being spat on quite often by the a-typical younger FPS and action game fan.

        • Testsubject909

          How about a graphical facelift a la FF4 complete collection.

          And before anyone would suggest it. I’d be against any sequels to FF6. It’s one of the most complete stories I’ve had in the FF universe. A clear beginning, a clear end, very little to expand upon as we know every single one of our characters very, VERY well…

          Man I love FF6…

  • Kirbysuperstar2

    It’s not really a debut – the PSX port came out in Europe/Australia.

    • Testsubject909

      It’s mentioned in the article.

      It’s a debut of the Snes original, unaltered.

  • PrinceHeir

    please make a enhanced version of FFV and FFVI on both NGP and 3DS. make it like FFI and FFII Anniversary Edtion or FFIV Complete Collection; update sprites, more enemies and such.

    no 3D remake please

    save that for FFVII and FFVIII :D

  • Christ

    And what’s wrong with a 3D remake? Especially when we’re talking about S-E? I think it’s a wonderful idea, I can’t wait to hear more news on the remake status.

  • Christ

    And what’s wrong with a 3D remake? Especially when we’re talking about S-E? I think it’s a wonderful idea, I can’t wait to hear more news on the remake status.

  • http://numaz.tumblr.com/ Numaz

    wow that REALLY too bad… i prefer PSP than NDS,3DS, and NGP

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PL5YMNBTI2SMVAONUEGQRTUJ3E platomaker87

    Funny is, FF6 was two players, not many people used or even knew about it. Implementation was alright, basically you delegate a character to the second player. If they remake this game could you imagine them keeping this function?
    No big deal if they don’t but if they did keep it and added to it, that would be a huge step for turn-based RPGs.

  • ToSeektheChosen

    I don’t think Square would put a “main” game on the 3DS, if they decide to put a Final Fantasy game on 3DS, it’ll probably be a spinoff or remake.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Rohde/1249230103 Sean Rohde

    be neat to see ff vi with redrawn monsters in HD. not just blowing them up and pixel smoothing, but some high quality amano flat redraws.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Rohde/1249230103 Sean Rohde

    be neat to see ff vi with redrawn monsters in HD. not just blowing them up and pixel smoothing, but some high quality amano flat redraws.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lindsay-Gurr/644469767 Lindsay Gurr

    FFV n VI on 3ds? :O I want!

    I’m sorry, KEFKA IN 3D? :O

  • http://twitter.com/gabriel_may_uk Gabriel May

    “Hashimoto had initially stated that there were “technical problems” with Final Fantasy V and VI being remade on the DS, and we were keen to find out what he meant.”

    Does “this game is too awesome” count as a technical problem?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Danette-Sheron/100001563158266 Danette Sheron

    The US is just got Dragon Quest VI and now Europe is just now getting Final Fantasy VI. Those of us outside Japan have to be so very patient.

    Anyways, I’ve been dieing for Square to make a FFV remake for the DS like III and IV. With FFIV I enjoy both the GBA and DS versions considering you get the best of 2D and 3D (best of 3D for handhelds mind you) so of course I would love to see FFV with the same 3D design.

    Odd thing is, I don’t think it’s necessary for FFVI to have the same kind of remake. If Sqaure makes a remake of VI I would like to see the remake in the graphical style of Crisis Core FFVII. I think it would just be more suited for that game

  • Joanna

    I guess I’m in the vast vast minority here, but I hope the remakes do have chibi models outside of battle. I found the chibi look of FFIII and IV really cute (and as someone pointed out it mimics the look/feel of sprites). If they improve the details and the like, it could really look nice.

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