DmC Devil May Cry Pushed To January, Also Coming To PC

By Ishaan . May 21, 2012 . 4:33pm

Capcom have announced a release date for DmC Devil May Cry, the Ninja Theory-developed reboot of their stylish action series. Instead of sometime in 2012 as previously hinted at, DmC will be released on January 15th, 2013, for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. A PC version is in development, too, and will follow later in the year.

 

Additionally, we also get a few details on Dante’s sidekick, Kat. A former runaway who’s now part of an organization called The Order, Kat’s a psychic who can see into Limbo, the demon realm, but she can’t interact with it directly the way Dante can.

 

Kat is the devoted right hand agent of the leader of the The Order. They’re investigating Limbo, and Kat often puts her life at risk to gather intel on the demon realm for her leader. Dante and The Order appear to be working together in some capacity, too. Given Kat’s expertise regarding Limbo, she’s tasked with guiding Dante on his mission through the demon realm.

 

As previously reported, Capcom hope to sell 2 million copies of DmC Devil May Cry by the end of their ongoing fiscal year, which ends on March 31st, 2013.

 


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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-Jennings/100000158197173 Bobby Jennings

    lol 2 million. We’ll see Capcom, we’ll see.

    • Solomon_Kano

      If even the rat’s nest that was ORC could meet their expectations, I imagine this will have a much easier time of it.

      • Domii

        Rat’s nest lol

  • Shadowman

    Though  this Dante isn’t the Dante that everybody know and love the gameplay looks pretty solid and story line seems great I might consider buying it.

  • Muffum

    I have no idea why, but I imagine a German-speaking Dante sounding really funny. If I ever do end up getting this, then I’ll test that idea for myself.

  • XiaomuArisu

    She is disapointedXD
    http://www.siliconera.com/postgallery/?p_gal=213720|2
    BTW first RE6 and now dmc getting multilanguage…hope it doesnt sucks.

  • MrKappa

    So let me get this straight… Capcom hopes to sell 2 million copies of this game in 3 months?*Refer to avatar for my response*

    This thing has been pushed back so much that it is clear to see they have no real faith in it, and rightfully so. They’ll be lucky to 50k in the deadline they have set.

    • Farid Belkacemi

       Or maybe Capcom gave NT more time to polish their game ? ;)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugenio-Gil/100000517635083 Eugenio Gil

        What sucks is the fact Capcom should do this with all their games (pushing them back and releasing them when they are sure they are done). Heck may be DMC4 would have been better if they had treated it with the same amunt patience they are treatig this one…

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      “Pushed back so much”? For starters, they never committed to a release date. Beyond that, even a few months ago, they just said it was coming toward the latter part of this year.

    • Domii

      “They’ll be lucky to 50k in the deadline they have set”

      50k? Are you on crack?!

    • Roubjon

       Hilarious assumptions going on here.

  • Farid Belkacemi

    Well, my first day one of 2013 I guess :p

    • XYZ_JolteonZ980

      Yeah same. I cant wait to experience this DmC. It looks like a nice take and they have released nary a bad image. Im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and to take a chance on it. 

  • Hoshi星

    Everything is coming in Q1 2013. January 2013 is the new holiday season/month

    • XYZ_JolteonZ980

      Tombr Raider, Bioshock Infinite, and now this…Are all the publishers afraid of Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Grand Theft Auto V, FF Versus XIII and Wii U?!

      • MrRobbyM

        Yes. Yes they are. CoD is a big deal.

        • Domii

          FF versus 13? GTA5?

          Has Resident Evil 6 been delayed too?

          Since you seem to have insider information give me answers, I need answers!!

          • MrRobbyM

            FFV13 isn’t happening in 2012. We all know that. Anything remotely related to RE will automatically do well, at least in Japan. Does GTAV even have a release date? Where do you get that from?

          • Domii

            That’s what I wanna know. It seems XYZ has sources that we don’t know about lol.

        • XYZ_JolteonZ980

          Each year shows that there can be many million selling titles in the same period that CoD is released in though. Halo and CoD will both beget millions of sales, Assassin’s Creed 3 as well, and I bet a few others.

          • MrRobbyM

            Of course. Halo is still Halo and AC is another mainstream hit. Reboots are made for two reasons though. To broaden the audience and refresh a franchise. They need to have a fair chance to see how well they’re received.

      • SirRichard

        By Christmas 2012, there will be a new Call of Duty, a new Halo, a new Assassin’s Creed, a new Pokémon and possibly another Nintendo console with a set of Mario and casual-friendly titles all competing for that spot under the Christmas tree. All the big boys are going to be out, it makes sense to give your title a chance later instead of competing against multiple guaranteed million sellers.

      • MrRobbyM

        Since when was FFV13 coming out in 2012 lol?

        • XYZ_JolteonZ980

          I thought the producer seemed to indicate that that is the plan, why else would he be preannouncing that news is forthcoming on the title telling people to be patient?

          • MrRobbyM

            I didn’t get that at all. I think he was just adressing all the questions that people were asking about the progress of the game since, you know, it’s taking forever to make. That doesn’t necessarily mean the game is coming out soon. Besides, with the last update we saw, I’d say they would need at least a few months into 2013 at the earliest if Nomura wants to make it a game that lives up to the hype. You can’t tease a game for years and years just to release a rushed piece of garbage.

        • Testsubject909

          Well, the book of upcoming games at my local EBgames still has it listed under 2012.

      • Bentan

         GTA and black ops will rape every game.. and dont forget assasin creed 3!

        • Domii

          Don’t sleep on Resident Evil 6.

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        More likely, Capcom don’t want to cannibalize their own games. Resident Evil is coming out around that time, too. There’s no point releasing two of your high-profile games that close to each other, especially when RE will get a bump from the holiday season just a couple months after its release.

  • Code

    rarrr, are you serious this is still like half a year away >mA<; I do like Kat artwork/costume design, it's pretty nice o3o~ Although, maybe it's just bad screenshots, but I don't think it translated to her character model that well though.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    PC? *Ahmm* LET THE MODDING BEGIN!!

    • Sakurazaki

       I can already see many people creating skins of the original DMC Dante.

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        and voice patch haha

        • Testsubject909

          I can see people just not bothering with any of that, personally.

          I should know. I’m in that camp.

          • ShawnOtakuSomething

            they did it to the others

  • badmoogle

    Well at least Capcom was quite generous with this game’s development time.

    • Testsubject909

      how long has it been? Seriously, didn’t bother keeping notes.

  • MrRobbyM

    PC was unexpected but very very welcome.

  • ZEROthefirst

    Hey maybe one of the updates they can do is make the game run at 60fps now, you know instead of 30fps that would somehow play at 60…

    • Guest

      Impossible. Unreal Engine is locked at 30FPS on consoles. Maybe PC..

      • The_Real_Oyashiro

        Mortal Kombat ran at 60fps.

        • Souji Tendou

          Dude, that’s because it a 1 on 1 fighting game.

          • The_Real_Oyashiro

            And? Its made with Unreal Engin and it runs at 60fps on a console. It being a fighting game dosn’t negate that fact.

          • Zenkaider

            It quite does.It’s like comparing Warriors Orochi 3 and Modern Warfare and saying that just because both can reach a 60FPS level in consoles,Unreal Engine is quite good.That’s unfortunately NOT the case.

            Unreal Engine,as good as it might seem,and apparently easy to work with,as the western developers say,is dramatically limited.VERY LIMITED!When MK9 can reach “60FPS” on concoles it’s because :

            1)It simply has semi-stationary backgrounds

            2)There are only two moving characters in the foreground

            3)It’s a traditional fighting game and thus the characters most over-the-top moves can not even hope to compete with DMC’s as far as visual’s and FPS go.

            4)It’s been stripped and modified to hell and back,just so that it can barely uphold that “60FPS” MO it supposedelly keeps in check for the game.

            Now let’s go back to DMC and even DmC.Trying to even insert this engine or any of it’s versions in this kind of game,where the even with the minimum amount of enemies[1 on screen],you have :

            1)The characters all move in satisfying speeds and perhaps more

            2)The camera has to follow your fast actions everywhere,in a not so still and very,VERY detailed background

            3)The game,as well a lot of japanese games focus on the “canceling” mechanic that costs a few frames wether it’s used by the enemy or the player…just insert this in a game where the gameplay is all about that!

            I could go on with the points but just try to insert UE in this kind of game,while keeping all it’s detail[and not downscalling as NT has done now] makes it nigh impossible for the game to even dream of attaining 60FPS.

            Almost every game engine has it’s uses.Unreal just isn’t suited for High Octane Stylish Action games,like DMC,Bayo,Ninja Gaiden etc. even if it is quite easy to work with.

          • Guest

             The entire world in DMC also shifts and transforms taking up a lot of power hence solidifying the fact that 60fps is impossible on the consoles. This has been explained already so give up arguing.

          • The_Real_Oyashiro

            @Galactor Thats not what you were arguing. You said it was impossible for unreal to run at 60fps on consoles. Mortal Kombat proves tbat statment false. next time choose your words better.

            @Zenkaider agreed, NT used the wrong engine for this kind of game.

  • LynxAmali

    Still pessimistic this will be any good.
    However!
    I will rent it at least!

    My thoughts on the reboot can be summarized in one video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBNQbXL_Px4&feature=player_embedded

    Also; PC? Can we get some people to mod an original Dante skin?

    • Bentan

       will be dlc / unlock for consoles i presume.. but pc gets it free cuz of mods haha

    • http://ggftw.com/forum/ Monkey_T

      IT WON’T BE THE SAAAAAAAAAME.
      Even if this punk looks like the original Dante, he’ll still act like a brooding prick.

      /sob

    • Testsubject909

      Do come over to the open threads or something and share your personal observations and experiences of the game. Quite curious what it’ll be like, but quite unwilling to put any money into this new game or putting any hit to their demo counter.

  • icecoffemix

    Damn she looks weird.

  • Solomon_Kano

    2013? Usually I’m disappointed by delays on games I’m looking forward to but, given how much this game has to live up to in my eyes, I’m actually very happy it’s been delayed.

    Ninja Theory needs all the time they can get. They aren’t exactly known for the highest quality when it comes to their gameplay, so hopefully this time is spent in service of that.

    • Testsubject909

      More time to cook, clean up ideas, remove superfluous useless sequences and exchanging them for tighter, more responsive and immediately satisfying gameplay elements, would certainly help.

      To that end, a pushback would only be beneficial to them… Unless that pushback is development time to make locked on disk content to be unlocked via an overpriced DUK. In which case, I’m all against it.

      • Solomon_Kano

        Come now, Test. Let’s wait til we’ve actually played it for ourselves to make such statements. I’m aware that you’re referring to the hallway sequences, as you’ve stated they’re unoriginal, but still. We’ll see how they play out in the larger scheme of things. I can’t imagine they’re going back to the drawing board on that bit, so we’ll just have to hope that it works as an element of the whole.

        Also, the DLC bit? Come on. I know Capcom’s practices are unpopular but, thinking back, that’s really something they reserve for their fighting games. Overall, they actually haven’t done much DLC. It’s the big thing to point to with Capcom right now but, funnily enough, it’s actually a genre case for them.

        • Testsubject909

          Yeah, I’m willing to give a listen, which is why I’m curious about some of the people’s opinions here when they’ll play the game.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Well, at the very least, I’ll be sure to say what I thought of it. NT’s got a tall order to fill.

          • Testsubject909

            I’m pessimistic about the issue, but I would enjoy being proven wrong. I’ve nothing against reboots when they’re done in an enjoyable manner. For example. I for one found that Lords of Shadow was an excellent retelling of the story that works well in contrast to Lament of Innocence, although, as much as it upsets his fanbase, it makes me wonder if the game would’ve fared better without Hideo Kojima.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Well, it’s good to know you’ve a more open mind then most. I didn’t even realized so many disliked LoS til I looked at the Mirror of Fate rumor. Yeesh. Terrific game. I too question how much Kojima’s involvement affected the game though. I’ve assumed it was for the better, but I’m interested to know what all he contributed to what MercurySteam delivered.

  • Domii

    It’s no wonder that the only game I’ve bought this year is Xenoblade. Seems that after I get my Vita, my money and time are gonna go only to one platform this fall. Unless E3 blows my absolute mind.

    Really looking forward to DmC though, and I hope they prove all the haters wrong. Because I can’t wait to see the reaction from all these whiners when this baby becomes the most critically acclaim DMC game.

    • MrRobbyM

      I don’t expect the game to actually be that great, but I would love to be proven wrong just to laugh at all the whiners. To myself, of course.

      • Testsubject909

        I’m having an increasing difficulty in figuring out who actually has a reason to defend the game and detest the haters, and who’s just blindly detesting the haters out of principle of just detesting haters…

        I’m serious here. It’s getting a bit annoying to me, personally, because I can’t tell which camp is the truly blind here.

    • Testsubject909

      Considering the last video of gameplay I’ve been shown. I’d say that to date, it would seem to me that the whiners, as you so lovingly call them, are probably going to win their argument.

      The traversal sequences in particular are worrysome. Those are typically just thrill shortcuts to artificially amp up thrills, though a few missteps can eventually and rapidly turn it into just plain frustration or boredom pending also upon how they tackle it (It’s nothing new after all, and we already know how such traversal sequences are felt by people). It’s also possibly a sign of artificially inflated gameplay time as it really serves no purpose. Alternatively, the platforming didn’t seem all that interesting either, so the traversal now plays dual role of compensation for that too, at least judging from recent videos.

      Combat is a mixed bag of alright, interesting and a bit meh. It has some promise within itself, but as to whether or not it will achieve this said promise is pretty much a gamble as it is.

      In general, this might get critical acclaim by some, but definitely not by all, and then there’s the general public’s reaction to the game as well to take into account.

      Man, I wonder what sort of games we’re going to see from E3.

  • http://twitter.com/WarbossAohd Warboss Aohd

    2 million, da Goblin Shamanz, da smart guyz who handle da Waaagh’s financez and business fink dat might not be a reasonable numba.

    Humie Translator Robot:He has the goblin mages doing their finances……….wait, they have finances? These orks aren’t normal……….now back to the conversation at hand, i am kind of inclined to agree, if a Street Fighter Crossover couldn’t get 2 million, i don’t think Devil May Cry will, that being said stranger things have happened.

    • ShawnOtakuSomething

      What you say about my moma?!  

      • http://twitter.com/WarbossAohd Warboss Aohd

        Wotz a momma?

        Humie Translator Robot: Greenskins reproduce through spores, so you are kind of confusing him, rest assured he probably said nothing about your mother.

  • takopako

    the story behind that next to last screenshot is very questionable…do i sense some fan service coming on?

  • http://twitter.com/FaithlessMr Bruno Silva

    2 million copies in three or so months? Well, if those are worldwide sales figures expectations…hmmm I dunno, I still think it’s a tad on the optimistic side, that’s not enough time for the game to sell THAT much I’d say. Still, all the platforms combined….ugh I really don’t know. This assuming the PC version is also released anytime between January and March 31st. And I dunno whether there’s an audience for this game in the pc (not sure how greatly the pc version of DMC 4 actually sold, or how it actually performed).

    Well, let’s wait and see.

    • puchinri

      How well do DMC titles tend to sell? I’m wondering if they usually do that well, exceed or do just under?

      Although I think when you change it up from your formula so much, you can’t expect most of the sales that you would usually get, so I wonder if they’re considering that at all.

      • http://twitter.com/FaithlessMr Bruno Silva

         Ninja Theory…their games haven’t sold that much, now that you mention it….I guess Capcom is relying solely on brand name here. Hopefully the game lives up to expectations.

        I’m personally not looking forward to the game myself, but I’m sure that despite all the backslash the game is getting, it will still move a few copies (heck, it’s likely that most of the backslash comes from a very vocal group of internet users, and that this group represents but a minority of gamers anyway). As for me, I’ll wait and see, still not convinced (not one to go and post that at every chance I get, though :P)

        • Guest

           Well the brand name trick worked with Raccoon City.

          Not sure if it worked with Konami’s Castlevania or Namco’s Dead or Alive (probably not)

        • puchinri

          Yeah, I have never heard of their games moving significantly. And they definitely are, unfortunately.

          Same here. I don’t have much faith or interest in it, nor how the situation around it has been handled. I won’t be surprised if it does well enough though.

    • TheGoddamnedKamina

       speaking as a pretty core PC gamer I say that there’s always a want for more of these beat ‘em up type games on PC. Also I loved DMC4 on the PC.

      But I don’t think they’ll be able to pull 2 million copies either. Especially with all the negative buzz on capcom AND ninja Theory.

      • http://twitter.com/FaithlessMr Bruno Silva

         Oh, thanks for your input! I don’t game much on the pc, so I really had no clue on what the pc demographic would look upon such a type of game. Well yeah, 2mil is definitely a big and hard to reach number.

      • Testsubject909

        But for PC… I’d personally go for TERA. Sure, it’s a pay model MMO action game, but freaking hell, it’s a freaking Action game that looks freaking epic. And reviews are extremely encouraging with one reviewer comparing it to multiplayer DMC online. I’m sure that was a broad over exaggeration from the reviewer’s part, but still.

        • TheGoddamnedKamina

           goddamnit I never remember to check for replies on here on time.

          But yeah, I agree! TERA looks amazing, but I’m really not the kinda guy who wants to bank on MMos especially with the whole Diablo 3 mini-mmo stuff going on right now. There’s also the fact that I probably will get GW2 over TERA. Simply because I put an amazing amount of time into the original GW!

          I’ll probably end up having both once there’s a few content patches on TERA (I don’t actually know how large TERA actually is and how long it would take to reach endgame though. ) And then swoop it up and feed off of caffeine and ramen noodles during my summer vacation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

    Great, hope it has some sort of demo coming out before the actual release date.

  • Nitraion

    They waiting hater to calm down also remember there is lolipop and anarcy reign coming up so i think its best strategy, well maybe…

    • Godmars

      And since both are original IPs, they’re getting more of a chance as far as I know. No instant haters.

      DmC is recycling DMC’s name and noteworthy elements while NT cops nothing but attitude and having done nothing truly spectacular, just okay. So yeah, they get some hate.

      • Nitraion

        But if they not use DmC IP this game wouldn’t be famous XD
        Well they aren’t brave enough to use new IP and they saying it is other dimension dante and not reboot series is not very convincing lol

    • Testsubject909

      You know, as much as I hate the fact that Platinum Games has made no sequels to date… I also enjoy it.

      It means I can expect a certain level of quality and innovation from Platinum Games, building trust in their brand name overall as opposed to just attaching myself to a series.

      • Nitraion

        Their story always cliffhanger lol aka vanquish and bayonetta well in case of bayonetta i just want more.

  • Spider-Man

    I lol’d at the pic with a Kat looking at nude Donte. Game could be humorous, going by how the recent trailer was. Going to give this game a rental, since I no longer buy Capcom games new. 

    • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

      She’s looking at “Dante?” From the legs in the picture I assumed it was a naked woman.

      • Guest

        Some pretty ugly hairy muscular legs for a woman

        • Testsubject909

          Well, the game is made in Europe, if I’m not incorrect…

      • Spider-Man

        I’m not sure what led you to that conclusion. It was quite obvious that it was Donte. 

  • Souji Tendou

    Ugh, Kat is ugleh. -_-
    And how come she’s not red haired NT? That’s…………. surprising. XD

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roberto-Armando-Iraheta/775564143 Roberto Armando Iraheta

    DmC can’t hang with the big boys, huh?

  • puchinri

    Uhhh. . . this is just so weird. I swear I don’t even feel like I’m reading about a DMC game, but some of the information sounds like it would fit really well into a different series. x’D;

    I don’t even know anymore. vuv;

    • Godmars

      Just think of it as the European version of the series, which is exactly what it is.

      Does nothing different, just has a more euro rather than anime appearance. 

      • puchinri

        I’m not sure I’d call this a European influence though either. . . that does remind me of a game I really wanted to come out though that was being developed in Europe; France, specifically, I believe.

        • Godmars

           Well it certainly looks influenced by Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

          • puchinri

            I don’t doubt that (I kind of see it too), but being European developed doesn’t really define those titles or is relevant to their development to me. But that’s just me~. 

          • Godmars

             What should be relevant is that neither game delivered on their gameplay claims. Weren’t overall spectacular, just okay.

          • Testsubject909

            It looks influenced by Dante’s Inferno if you ask me.

            And Dante’s Inferno, by my honest and personal opinion, would’ve served better as a horror adventure game rather then an action game…

          • puchinri

            Oh. Heh. Well, then. That too is quite relevant. I don’t really expect this one to deliver either, but I guess we can only wait and see.

          • Godmars

            And that’s the real thing. The NT guy’s been saying, “shut up and let me show how I’m better than the original DMC dev, you ignorant retards”.

            Basically at this point he either has to live up to his claims, make a game that’s better than past entries in the series, or appeal to a crowd larger than the one he’s already actively alienated when games he’s already done have failed to live up to his past claims. Which weren’t particularly bad but were his own concept. When he wasn’t being a notable douche.

    • Testsubject909

      Well, you know, when you’re reading up about a protagonist who’s a half angel half demon teenager who’s lived an orphan life supposedly tortured by demons living off on the streets and acting like a mad brooding rebel only to then be possibly hired or convinced by some ethereal being to wipe out some great evil, as far as I can tell from story descriptions and videos…

      I wouldn’t blame you if you don’t see the resemblance to this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGv5w3kCVHc 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000172099718 Dominic Hunter

      Hmm, now that you mention it, maybe that was the biggest problem to begin with. Gamers these days aren’t big fans of having a totally separate series get “plugged in” to their favorite franchise for the sake of brand recognition.

      • puchinri

        Well, they shouldn’t be. That’s cheap and I’d say, maybe a tad manipulative, to use a series to make sales on a game that otherwise wouldn’t make as many. It’s worse to just rewrite over everything and then still use the name.

        I wouldn’t mind if this was completely AU and would have no bearing on the future of the series otherwise, but sadly, that does not seem to be the case either. . .

        (As a fair comparison; EX Troopers looks fun and has plenty of resemblance to Lost Planet, even if it doesn’t seem so immediately. DmC has a character named Dante and demons, and that’s where its similarities to DMC ends.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000172099718 Dominic Hunter

    Ugh, you know what? Let’s just STOP HAVING these premature release dates. Game companies, just announce your Release date when it’s FINISHED, and give us progress reports up until that point.

    • TheGoddamnedKamina

       Pretty sure this is capcom’s way of building Hype.

      or in my case, building disappointment.

      • Testsubject909

        I wonder if the new release date will cause their game to get overshadowed by a more immediately hyped and grand game which will cause their sales to fall far shorter of their expectations…

  • Yesfir

    This just keeps looking more and more interesting to me, I can’t for it to finally get released. :3

  • Learii

    capcom hope its sell 2 million copies? well i  don’t think  that will happen thank to Ninja Theroy

  • http://www.cubiz.x10.mx/ Prince Aura

    Never played a Devil May Cry game and I still probably won’t. Nothing against the game. But uhm… is it me or is the new Dante nothing like the old Dante? Like in looks… and personally Kat looks interesting. I like the whole hoodie look. And the the uh… graphics look pretty nice.

    • Guest

      lol You just noticed? XD

      • http://www.cubiz.x10.mx/ Prince Aura

        I don’t really follow DMC news as it’s not a series I have played.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/U2UHZLVTHH5EFWNTDCP2MJ4TGQ Nick

          http://imageshack.us/f/230/dantej.jpg/  new dante and original creator or something like that. this was pointed out to me by a friend.
          this guys full of himself

        • Testsubject909

          My suggestion to you is: Avoid DMC as a whole at this point. It’s turning into a lovely huge crapstorm.

          You know what you’re better off doing if you want to play an action game? Look up Platinum Games.

          • http://www.cubiz.x10.mx/ Prince Aura

            Hmm? I didn’t really plan on playing DMC and I am unsure what Platinum Games is…?

          • mirumu

            Platinum Games is a Japanese company owned and run by various former high ranking Capcom employees who designed or made major contributions to Resident Evil, Viewtiful Joe, and Okami amongst others.

            One of Platinum’s founders is Hideki Kamiya, creator of Devil May Cry and director of the first game. He went on to create Bayonetta at Platinum leading many, including myself, to consider that to be the spiritual successor to Devil May Cry.

    • Testsubject909

      I’ll stick to a Kat that can control gravity.

      • http://www.cubiz.x10.mx/ Prince Aura

        lol Same. But that might have been obvious with my avatar. lol

  • revenent hell

    Hmmm a lil bit down someone said the girl looked wierd and I have to agree…her   body it dosent look “normal” to me, in the first pic of her her chest looks way to low and her shoulders look like they are scrunched up? IDK how to explain it they look to small for her frame i guess , whomever is doing the charecter models in this game that person appears to not have much expierience in making life like looking anatomy in my opinion because the biggest issue of mine is how unproportionate all the bodies  seem look…
    I dont expect perfection or anything but when I play anygame my biggest issue is if I can tolerate looking at the charecters i’ll have the most contact with,hence why ive refused to play Bayonetta shes simply abhorant looking to me I dont care how great the gameplay is I cant stomache playing a charecter I detest viewing….So looking at a charecter and thinking they resemble gumby or a streched out child with enlarged anatomy bothers me a bit….But this is what I think of the bodies im sure alot of people wont agree with me but they look extremely odd to me

    • puchinri

      You noticed that too? I don’t know if it’s because of how they tried to handle the cleavage or if it was intentional to signify something, but her chest is really low. But yeah, if I didn’t know any better, I would just guess she’s a demon trying to “fit” into a human body or something. But initially, I just assumed someone did not know anatomy works. More so than usual in regard to video game characters (especially female ones).

      • revenent hell

        Well I am female I should slightly know what our bodies look like :P But I had issues with how the main charecter looked as well,not just attire but in terms of how his body was…to elongated and when they showed early clips of him his body didnt move in a “natural” manner to me….I was kinda hopeing they would do better with the female but shes to odd looking with her chest so low and her arms going up so close to her shoulders,like there is so little space between shoulder top and armpit…I come from a very artsy backround,my mother did portraits as a child and I grew up doing murals  so things like this stick out to me…I mean the charecters are supposed to be legit people copies right? Thats when I tend to notice it more,in more fantasy based games I do overlook most inaccuracies but here…… your theory of her being a demon  trying to be in a human body might be why ,its a good idea but…Idk they need to fix the bodies ….

        • puchinri

          Yeah, as someone who likes to doodle and tries to pay attention to anatomy, both of them look off. And his movements were/are a bit funky. Well, I hope they’re creative enough to go with her being a demon to cover their anatomy issues. Then again, Dante’s background doesn’t give me hope for them being creative.

          • revenent hell

            Its a little annoying that they have worked on this for so long and cant even show clips or screenshots of the charecters where they dont looked deformed…..Im sorry but people arent going to be waching the backrounds when they are doing combos so one would think they would at least be able to make the game charecters look better than what they have…..Such a shame…But perhaps they just dont have enough expierience making “life like” models?. Im going to go with that since what ive seen of Ninja Theory games their charecters are far from “life like” so thats the best I can believe.

      • Testsubject909

        Drooping breasts, gives the illusion that there’s a lack of a bra to support it, large V shaped cleavage pointing straight down to her busom, lacking or not, is definitely meant to arouse attention, interest and, obviously, to arouse. Additionally short shorts and legs, posture and whatnot, definitely meant to create a more frail looking being and etc etc.

        It’s just a different form of fanservice if you ask me. But her body does look quite long for her petite build don’t it?

        • puchinri

          No, it’s not just that they’re drooping, or even looks like a lack of bra support (which would be very obnoxious if that was the case), it’s just the way her entire chest is, not the breasts exclusively. It’s particularly low, and revenent has a point about the shoulders too.

          I think there’s an interesting subtle, but obvious way fanservice is being handled with her, but it just seems like in general, something is off with her body. (But I did notice it a bit in Dante too, but not as significant nor so overtly.) 

          • Testsubject909

            If you ask me, the fanservice that I can smell off of her is pretty damn blatant.

            Any low hanging V cut and excessive show of leg on a petite girl is pretty much screaming fanservice to me. All that’s missing is an ass shot so people can go Dat Ass! or something.

          • puchinri

            Oh yeah, there’s plenty of blatant to it too, which is why I said it was also obvious. Maybe it’s because of the way her motions are being handled too (not so natural looking) that some of it struck me as “subtle.”

            I think it’s mixed with the shorts. Her’s are terribly short, and generally, shorts can be handled well or very obvious and in a pandering manner (I personally like fashionable and not focusing on fanservice), but it’s definitely her cleavage that gets me. The unzipped sweater plus oddly low top (to her already oddly low chest). What gets me is the top looks like it’d barely cover her nipples, so I just don’t get how her outfit works. 

          • revenent hell

            as one who likes fanservice this aint it to me. besides her whole chest area being far to wide(not the boobs) the breast themselves look like water balloons hanging from socks…..The shorts and attire I cant find a real fault with besides the “hoodie” part under the vest showing quite so much cleavage…..no hoodie is that thinly made and it looks odd but I suppose it fits with the rest of the odd shaped human like creatures they are making of this game

  • Go2hell66

    haha wow massive shoulders…
    kat is definitely a trap!

    • Dantis

       You realise that’s how real women are structured… Right? Those shoulders aren’t massive at all, they’re just not what you’d see in an anime styled game.

      • Testsubject909

        Varies buddy, it varies heavily.

        I’ve seen some women out there with some very massive manly upper torso (not counting breasts of course) and some who’re far more slim. The same applies to guys. We just connect large and bulky to men and slim and petite to women more immediately and instinctively when it comes to the general build of the body (not counting breasts).

      • Go2hell66

         How real women are structured? in what universe? she looks like a caveman rofl

    • CirnoLakes

       Was… that a joke?

      • Go2hell66

         you can never be too careful >_>

  • Dantis

     Honestly, that’s a pretty horrible thing to say.

  • Julien_N

    Er…wait a minute, if the game is called “DmC Devil May Cry”, does that mean it stands for “Devil May Cry Devil May Cry” ? O_o

    • komiko12

      LOL. that’s also what I thought .

      I hope someone would be kind enough to tell me what “DmC” means

      • Prinnydoom

        DmC Just another way of spelling Devil may Cry except the twist is the m is lower case to differentiate between the original Devil May Cry and this one

        • komiko12

          LOL, I won’t figure out that one by myself.

          So basically, its useless?
          Most people would be under the impression that it is an acronym.

        • Julien_N

          Whoa, that’s some real Guide Dang It…XD
          Thanks for the explanation, by the way.

          • Prinnydoom

            Your being sarcastic aren’t you -____-

          • Julien_N

            I am not. ‘^.^
            I really didn’t expect DmC to not be an acronym and I would have never thought the lower case m was supposed to be different from the upper case M of the previous Devil May Cry games. O_o

  • RmanX1000

    For all the fans who bash this game, you have to realize that not everyone got to play the original DMCs. Im one of them, and i dont feel like getting the HD Collection because i dont like playing remakes unless they are full on remakes and not just up-scaled ports. So im glad for this reboot.

    • puchinri

      It’s a tough place. I think if you want to play a title in the series, it makes sense to play something the series before. It’s nice to introduce newer people to the series, but to throw out most everything that the established fanbase already loved and was acquainted with isn’t very logical and is a little harsh to me (to put it lightly).

      There’s nothing wrong with a reboot (unless it just isn’t needed – like, for serious), and there’s never anything wrong with trying to draw in new fans. But I don’t think it’s wise to alienate your fanbase, nor do I think it reflects well on how a company thinks of their fanbase to disregard them to such a strong extent.

      • RmanX1000

        now i dont know about the fanbase as a whole, but from what ive seen online, most of them just bitched about 1, 2, and a bit of 4, and apparently 3 was amazing. But i never paid too much attention to DMC :P

        • puchinri

          Lol, I have never seen that from the fanbase. Most people are universally displeased with DMC2 it seems though (I have yet to play, so no verdict), but 1 and 3 sound as those people are pleased with them and 4 was a fun ride but not like it was lacking a piece of the other two maybe?

          Perhaps we simply hear/see from different parts of the community is all. ^u^
          I’ve followed DMC since the first, but didn’t get much into the fandom until three.

        • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

          The only definite, unanimous complaint I’ve seen from the DMC fanbase is DMC2. I also saw a few people here and there complain about using Nero in DMC4 instead of Dante, but those were always isolated cases, nothing near a consensus.

          I’ve never seen complaints about the first Devil May Cry, but if there are any, I would guess it comes from kids that played later games then came back to find the gameplay not as developed as later in the series. Which would be a pretty stupid thing to complain about. Other than that, Devil May Cry was the first game in the series, it had to have done some things right and pleased plenty of people for the series to have existed until DMC4.

        • Testsubject909

          All you really need to know is DMC 1 set a benchmark for action games at the time. DMC 2 disappointed fans but was still entertaining to play and incorporated new elements that are still to this day key points to any action game of worth. And DMC 3 was a refinement and set up another new benchmark for action games. DMC 4 disappointed fans because half the time they were playing with a person who was like a clone of Dante without being Dante.

          That’s the very very short gist of it all. The main impression I get is that for fans of the genre, and for many non-fans, DMC is meant to be the game that tries to evolve the genre and sets a new bar of quality for action games, and to date, is only truly successful on it’s odd numbered releases.

          On another note. Due to many games such as Alice Madness Returns, Silent Hill Shattered Memories and Downpour and Dante’s Inferno. I see little originality or interesting worth in DmC, simple projection from comparison of key similar points between different games and gameplay elements that reoccurs and provides nothing all that new or interesting, it will be entertaining to a point, but as a whole, it still makes me think that I’d rather play Bayonetta.

          As of earlier this year, I’ve just been waiting to see if there’d be anything that’d actually click, that would actually make this game look interesting in any way shape or form.

          And no. Traversal stages don’t look fun or interesting. It looks intense, sure, but having played those before, they ultimately get boring in the long run and especially on repeat crossings.

    • Testsubject909

      You be careful how you phrase yourself. It sort of sounded like you might have went sour grapes here and opted to just never play the original DMC games out of spite.

    • amagidyne

      I don’t get it. The reboot has a different team and plot and is probably mechanically different too. Devil May Cry, the series you haven’t played, is a totally different franchise.

      To play Devil May Cry (the old ones), you’d have to get the originals or the HD collection. If you want to play DmC, those two would never even be on the table. They’re not the same series at all.

      You might as well say you’re glad Hitler Is Made Of Ice Cream (Get These Wasps Offa’ Me!), a game about an allergic assassin with a giant tongue who travels through time to correct past mistakes is out, because you never got to play Dead Space.

      And I’m not criticizing your interest in this game. That would be silly. I just don’t get the argument.

      • Göran Isacson

         I would play the hell out of Hitler Is Made Of Ice Cream, if it ends with the assassin licking up Ice Cream-Hitler.

        Also, how do you write italicized letters in this format?

  • Tien Ron

    ooooo the new girl looks good, looks realistic, im liking the new reboot of dmc
     

  • Yuri

    Oh wow, the second screenshot is such an inversion!! Naked guy standing infront of a fully-clothed girl when usually it’s the opposite :-D

    • puchinri

      Well, it does happen too, but usually to show how well-endowed the guy is (or if he’s a butt-monkey, to show how lacking he is). Now, if our MC was hot ish and we were told/implied that he was lacking and it was made fun of, that would really be an inversion~. And an awesome one! >u<

      • Göran Isacson

        I too hope that Kat will react to sudden naked Dante with less “oooh~” and more “ffs we’re demon hunters and we need you operational in ten seconds put on some goddamn pants”.

        Like, if she finds Dante hot that’s fine and all, but in the context of this game world where she is supposedly a serious demon hunter and Dante most likely offends her sensibilities, having her drool over Dante would just feel awkward.

        • puchinri

          Yes, I want that so bad. 

          But remember, this is a video game! Women drooling over a male character (especially MC) is important and there’s always an appropriate time for that!

          It’s also important that we know how hot and well-endowed our main character is! (Especially since he was looking like the director of the game for a while there.)

    • Testsubject909

      I’ve seen that before you know…

      Hell. I’ve seen guys do naked cartwheels before… Ain’t that right Raiden?

      Scissors. 51. Freaking hell.

  • http://www.thejaystack.com/ Jon Stachewicz

    Why are you going so far out of your way to wish failure upon something you’re not even going to buy?  Go outside.

    • LustEnvy

      No kidding. You hope this bombs? Somebody is EXTRA butthurt that original Dante isn’t in this. How pathetic of you to wish it bombed.

      For the sake of NEW games, you should never wish ill of any game that isn’t an utter piece of trash.

      Lots of time and effort has been put into this game. i hope it blows critics away.

      But alas, whiny purists are just gonna whine until the end of days.

      • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

        1) Wishing it would bomb is a pretty simple affair. If the game bombs, it sends a message that the new direction is bad and should no longer be pursued. If the game does NOT bomb, if it gets even average sales, then all companies involved will just blow off all criticism and keep doing the exact same sort of crap.

        2) NEW games are games like Lollipop Chainsaw and Hyperdimension Neptunia. Or if you need a Ninja Theory example, Enslaved, or Heavenly Sword. You can do anything you want with a NEW game. But when you make a game that’s part of a series, especially as a completely new company taking over from what’s been done before, you need to be respectful to what came before.

        3) Again, lots of time and effort going into something does NOT suddenly make the end result not bad or inappropriate. I used the example I did above for a reason. If anything, it’s sad that all that time and effort would go into something inappropriate when it could have been spent on making something actually amazing that’s worth that time and effort.

        4) It’s not being “whiny” to expect a company to treat a series with respect. The opposite, blindly accepting absolutely anything a company does just because it’s different, is far worse. Soon enough, all you have are familiar names, and at that point using the name “Dante” or alluding to Devil May Cry becomes purely a sales gimmick to make idiots buy it just because they know the names. Seriously, what the hell is the point of calling him Dante and pretending it’s a Devil May Cry game in any sense if everything but the names and the very basic concept of a half-demon slaying things with a sword are all it has going? At that point, we could call this a Claymore game as it has about as much in common.

        I also see someone flagged my original comment for review. Nice. Looks like someone decided after a prior Neptune V news article that they could start lashing out at the community by using the flag option to censor everything they don’t like, as opposed to using it when it’s actually relevant.

      • Testsubject909

        You shouldn’t start your argument with “Butthurt about the original Dante” thing.

        It makes you sound like you just don’t understand the situation as a whole.

        Probably because you don’t… And are just automatically antagonizing people by pairing them up with a group that you’ve been rubbed wrongly by in the past.

        Ah, maybe I should get a coffee too…

      • LustEnvy

        I understand it just fine. They are butthurt about it not being original Dante. There lies the root of all the bitching. Thinking otherwise is just attempting to justify all the whining and hate. Don’t kid yourself. had it been original Dante, the majority of complaints wouldn’t have ever existed, and people would have done what was logical: wait for the damn game to come out before pouncing on every little detail.

      • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

        Well yes, a lot of complaints come from this “Dante” not looking like the real Dante.

        And why shouldn’t they? A character’s appearance says a lot about who they are. Your first impressions of a female character walking around in a bikini will be much different from one wearing full plate armor that male characters are wearing. Likewise, if you were hiring someone for a job, you wouldn’t ignore the fact that one of the candidates came in as a disgusting slob that hasn’t bathed in months. And there’s a reason: appearances matter.

        There is absolutely no justification for DmC slapping Dante’s name on a completely new character.

        And you want to know the biggest reason why there’s so much backlash from fans? The very strong likelihood that the real Dante is going to be completely scrapped from here on out and THIS will be “Dante” from now on. I can guarantee you that if Capcom had announced a Devil May Cry 5 with the real Dante, most people would have shrugged DmC off as a playful alternate universe game. I know I sure as hell wouldn’t be complaining about the game as much as I am right now if we had a DMC5 coming out. Instead, all we have to look forward to is seeing this version of “Dante” forced out there while the Dante that fans actually like and care about gets thrown away because of sales gimmicks and base greed.

  • LustEnvy

    I need a time jump. I been waiting for this game for like…ever.

    • Testsubject909

      Not really… There’s a lot of games that people have been waiting a hellishly long time for, this one? Not that long really, it’s still within sensible development times. Now if it was 5 or more years? Yeah, then sure.

  • Angeru_Lito

    I like the fact that Kat doesn’t have giant boobs for a change.

    • RmanX1000

      Watch: “Breaking news: Shes actually 8 years old.” Yup. Giant boobs now.

      • Testsubject909

        I saw an 8 year old girl with what I estimated to be B-cups on my way back from work.

        Kids are growing fast these days…

        edit: And no. I’m not kidding either…

        • puchinri

          Probably steroids in foods.

    • Testsubject909

      I find it meh. Seems the latest trend nowadays from western developers is to create a female character with moderately sized boobs and instead refocus the sensuality on anything they can provide including cleavage at times. This is no different to me.

      At least with the people who made big breasted girls, they were quite up front and honest. “Hey, we know, even if we’re making a well rounded character, visually she’s still cheesecake no matter what we do so here. Boobs.” Y’know?

      But variety is a very wonderful spice so hey, more moderately breasted women for everyone.

      Though personally I’m still wondering if we’re ever going to get a woman with a natural G-cup bra size in a video game. And don’t tell me that’s impossible either.

      edit: Also, notice that we’re still getting cleavage for her, an extremely large showing of leg and the placement of her feet are very MOE cute and most definitely trying to appeal to some kinks out there that some people would consider unhealthy. But hey. Just sayain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Javon-Hernandez/706489182 Javon Hernandez

    So they’re waiting 
    till next year, eh? ;0Good. That means it HAS to be perfect. -hell, maybe they’ll give us DMC veterans a little fanservice, eh? :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Viet-Nguyen/100000070536507 Richard Viet Nguyen

    I personally like Kat. She’s not some over the top bootylicious whore like Trish or how they whorified Lady in 4 and the Anime. A more subtle and down to earth looking girl. Now lets see if she can make it through the game without getting into some crappy romance.

    • puchinri

      Slut shaming isn’t very nice or considerate. It’s nice that her sex appeal is not as immediately focused on like other female characters in the series (or gaming in general), but calling female characters whores (especially since we don’t know if they’re paid for sex or not and their sex lives are none of our business anyway) is not appropriate or considerate.

      I don’t have much hope for Kat not being sucked into a romance though. It’d be great if she comes out unscathed though~.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Viet-Nguyen/100000070536507 Richard Viet Nguyen

         I knew someone would call me out on this.

        • puchinri

          Heh, sorry. I had to do it. Though if I had known you were aware of it already, I probably might not have said anything (or at least not had much of a tangent). x’D

  • ZBaksh386

    The push baked date seems right.

    Kat seems imteresting.

     

  • Dantis

    What a load of crap. You’re comparing dmc to racism? Are you mentally handicapped? Get a grip.

    Jeez.

    • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

      … That is an analogy. Analogies involve using connections between concepts, objects, etc to make the issue a little clearer. People typically realize that when an analogy is used, not every single thing about the two concepts is the same. In this case, severity of the issue is clearly different.

      Naturally, I expect people to realize this, since it’s pretty obvious DmC is nowhere near as serious of a problem as racism. But then it’s just easier to pretend someone you disagree with really is that stupid so you can ignore a valid point.

      • Dantis

         So what you’re saying is that dmc is racist?

        Now that’s just silly.

      • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

        So you’re saying you like bonbons?

        Bonbons are delicious! I’m glad we could agree on something for once, Dantis.

    • Testsubject909

      Dude, personally saying, you’re far ruder.

      It was a bit of a harsh and crude analogy, but it was still relatively valid pending the angle at which you approached his (or her) statement.

      Hmm…

      I’m going to go eat some fries… where’s the ketchup?

    • puchinri

      And coming back at someone for using racism as a comparison by asking if they’re mentally handicapped is not appropriate or much better. I don’t like to use -isms to make comparisons, but it worked well at least. However, there is never anything of use for people to insult the mentally handicapped because you do not feel someone is intelligent.

  • CirnoLakes

     I know a lot of people are hating this Devil May Cry entry. But it doesn’t seem that bad.

    It’s nice to see that there will be a PC version, much like other recent entries. I have to say though that I think Dragon’s Dogma would be even more sensible to make a PC version of, since it is even more anticipated than DMC. Also, they really need to fix up an improved port of Devil May Cry 3 for the PC. Especially for Steam. It’s just not as friendly as it ought to be.

    • Testsubject909

      It doesn’t seem that bad, but there in lies the problem for many.

      DMC is never a game that’s translated as “not that bad”. DMC is meant to be “The standard and prime example of a quality action game”. That’s what fans expect it to be, anything below that will be nothing short but disappointing.

      I for one found said standard and prime example of a quality action game in Bayonetta, which I for one feel is the rightful spiritual successor to DMC and as such have no real interest in DMC anymore outside of the badass half human half demon Dante.

      And with that taken away, you can tell where my interest went. On another note… Considering who’s making this and who they’re partnered up with for doing this. I wonder what sort of DRM they’re going to use…

    • amagidyne

      Had the development of this game been kept secret up to this point, they could have changed the title right now and only a handful of people would ever suspect it was originally a Devil May Cry reboot.

      They could even have called it Shmevil may Shmy. People wouldn’t care. The only connection between this game and the old series is that Capcom owns the IP and knows that the game will make more money with this title.

      DmC is supposed to be Devil May Cry and isn’t. Maybe it’ll be good, maybe it’ll be great, or maybe it will suck. They’ll sell a million or two and every game magazine and website will give it a 7 – 8.5 out of 10 stating that “the environments are very pretty” and “Dante as a character feels fresh”. This is all fine.

      But it will still be stupid.

  • Guest

    I don’t understand why someone flagged your comment. Though it was a bit rude, it was a totally fair and understandable opinion IF you think about. People, just because there’s an opinion that you really don’t want to read or agree with definitely doesn’t mean that you should flag it. The flag feature is used for totally stupid comments and whatnot, and salarta’s was far from any of that. salarta supported his/her own (sorry I don’t know your gender) statement quite thoroughly, making it understandable and arguable (if needed). So once again, I don’t understand why someone flagged it because I think that it really wasn’t necessary to do so.

    • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

      Thanks for supporting the right for users to have differing opinions. :) Not that you need me to thank you, of course.

      I come at it assuming the person that flagged my original comment was one of the people in a recent Neptune V article that found out anyone could flag a comment and decided to abuse it from that point on. In that article, once someone explained how flagging works, all of a sudden several other people got their perfectly legitimate negative comments flagged out of the blue hours later.

  • malek86

    You need to loosen up a bit.

    I mean, RE4 was pretty good, wasn’t it? Although it had almost nothing of Resident Evil. Yeah, I know a few fans complained. So what? It was a great game and therefore it sold a lot.

    So, why can’t this game be a fun game regardless of its legacy? I’m not saying it will be, or that it will be successful. I’m saying it “could” be a good game. You’re blowing it off without even giving it a chance, just because it’s not faithful to the source material. Big deal. That kind of stuff happens all the time, and it’s not always a bad thing. If everyone only did sequels and adaptions by sticking to what they had already, we would live in a very stale world indeed.

    Let me put it this way: if they released a demo, would you at least try it with an open mind, or aren’t you even gonna give it a fair chance simply because it doesn’t reflect your idea of what you wanted it to be?

    I really didn’t like what they did to the new Ninja Gaiden, but when they made a demo available, I still tried it as if I had heard nothing about the game. It was definitely not good, but also not as bad as I was expecting.

    • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

      Resident Evil 4 was actually pretty fine. It didn’t completely change past characterization of characters, you still essentially dealt with zombies (just a different version), and it was a progression of the main series that kept the originals intact and built upon that lore. Yes, it also did a lot of new things, but it kept most of the series and its characters intact. Much of the change of environment and playstyle was necessary to keep the series from getting stale; at the time, the Resident Evil series was dying a slow death obsessing over the Raccoon City outbreak and small subthreads related to it that never really advanced the narrative.

      It’s not the effort to try something different that makes DmC a bad endeavor, it’s ripping out the soul of the Devil May Cry series and its characters trying to replace it with something completely different. If Capcom was framing this as an alternate universe sidegame then yeah, maybe I could give it a chance… but they’re not. There’s no Devil May Cry 5 in the works. This is it. They’re throwing away everything that made the series beloved in the first place, trying to reboot the series and make everyone forget what the series and Dante are supposed to be like. The Devil May Cry HD Collection does not say “We respect the past and will continue with the Dante you already know and love” that you would get from something like DMC5, it only says “We can make easy money by bundling the old games into a package and selling it before we shed that past and take Ninja Theory’s DmC as the new Devil May Cry series.”

      I would not try the demo. Not only do I not want to touch a “Devil May Cry reboot” that has a completely different “Dante” and completely different setting like this one, but if I forced myself to play the demo, I would hate every second of it regardless of its actual quality. Because all playing it would do is remind me that I will never see the Dante (and related characters) I actually like and care about in a new Devil May Cry game. Nobody wins from me forcing myself to play something I wouldn’t enjoy and which I’ve already made up my mind about. All we would get is me holding DmC against Ninja Theory even more than I already do.

      • malek86

        I guess we just don’t think alike then. I think a game should be judged on its own merits. If a game is entirely different from the series it belongs to, but is still a good game by itself, that’s a good game in my book.

        I’m not gonna try to change your mind because you seem pretty adamant about this already, and besides, it’s pretty sure I’m not even gonna buy the game (don’t like brawl fighters, so unless I really enjoy the eventual demo, I’m probably not going to pick it up).

        I do hope, however, that you’ll agree with me in that change, even the most radical kind of change, isn’t always a bad thing. There is never “always” in the world. The possibilities are endless.

        I also hope you’re not going to judge anyone who buys the game. In the end, people buy what they want. In the off-chance that the game ends up being successful and Capcom makes more games like it, you’ll just have to accept the new development, much like how RE fans at this point seem to have accepted that RE will be much more action-based than the older games.

      • http://twitter.com/salarta salarta

        I can understand that attitude, of judging a game by its own merits. I just don’t feel it should be followed in the case of video game series, as I think it will just ultimately end up ruining those series in pursuit of sales gimmicks.

        Change is definitely important, and sometimes radical change is indeed needed, but too often, companies go about change all wrong. My favorite example of a company doing a reboot right is Netherrealm and Mortal Kombat 9. That game acknowledged its past, and treated it with respect as being the original timeline while an alternate one took hold. In rebooting that series, they gave nods to all the games made up to and including Armageddon, AND they paid tribute to the original games by essentially retelling them and noting when major changes took place that made the story different. Through such a simple approach, they revived interest from the mainstream/casual crowd AND showed they cared about their own IP and their fans.

        Compare that to DmC, which is completely throwing out both the original universe and what the character was like in it to treat Devil May Cry and Dante as if it’s a brand new IP they’re creating for the first time, not a much loved decade old video game series. No matter how many new consumers they may get with their current approach, it’ll pale in comparison to what Ninja Theory and Capcom could have received if they treated the IP respectfully. New fans + old fans brings in more money than new fans – old fans, not to mention old fans could create even more new fans by word of mouth if the game appealed well enough to them.

        As for judging people who buy the game… I think not doing so is impossible, but it also won’t be as bad as you might worry. I may think less of them for buying this game, but it also won’t mean I think that they’re terrible people, that they aren’t entitled to do what they want to do, that I can’t talk to them in a civil manner, etc. I have a few people I chat with regularly who absolutely loved FF4:TA even though I hate it, and we get along pretty well. We just don’t talk with each other about things we don’t like.

      • mirumu

        I tend to agree with you, I feel largely the same about DmC, although on top of that I’m one of those who loathes the direction Resident Evil has gone since RE3. I could have lived with RE4, but 5 and 6 are another matter.

        My personal view is that Capcom has unnecessarily cost themselves part of their older fanbase by making such sweeping changes to both series. I think with a more thoughtful approach they could have done something that appealed to both old and new fans, but the decisions were made and Capcom’s fortunes will rest on the outcome.

        When it comes down to it people are going to vote with their wallets, and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if DmC’s sales are pretty good. Plenty of new players appear to be interested, and most don’t seem to know or care so much about the precise gameplay Devil May Cry was known for. Those that do seem to have moved on to Bayonetta. Ninja Theory’s record on gameplay is not good, and I say that as someone who likes Heavenly Sword. Whatever the sales numbers turn out to be however, I am sure they could have been higher.

        Whether DmC is a good game or not remains to be seen, but like you I have no personal interest in buying it. No one is going to make me feel bad about that. All the time I’ve invested in past Devil May Cry titles has colored my opinion such that this DmC simply is not for me. I don’t really see it as a reboot, it’s a new franchise in almost all but name. As with Resident Evil, I consider it a dead series simply because they aren’t making games in the series I’m going to buy any more.

    • Testsubject909

      You know. A few fans complaining is not the same as a crapload of fans complaining.

      I’ll also take this time to note. Just like with Mass Effect, I’m Not a fan of the series. I’m an enthusiast of it tough. Though I’ve no personal connection of any sort with Mass Effect, for DMC, I’ve at least gotten my hands dirty with it and played DMC 1, 2 and 3 quite a bit and enjoyed it, but nowhere near the same level of fanaticism some people portray, nor have I mastered the art of playing the game, nor did I do more then one run of it.

      Also, personally? I wouldn’t even try the demo out of principle.The lead designer acted like an infantile prick, he showed disdain, disrespect and blatantly insulted the game’s fanbase while coaxing his own ego and only then began to turn around when he was starting to feel the sting from the accumulating criticism that slowly pierced his veil of indifference and smug superiority-like-complex.

      I’ve remained informed and the gameplay interests me as much as Dante’s Inferno’s gameplay did, which is not that much, it looks playable and entertaining, but lacks a definitive wow factor that makes me tick and urges me to go Day 1!

      The story, personally, took a turn from cheesy bad to worse with a lot of new nonsensical ideas coming up and some plotholes provided early from just the description of the setting and overarching story. Though certainly that could all be well woven up, I’ve no real interest in Ninja Theory’s so called capability at making good stories. That said, the one I keep hearing raving praises about is the one that happens to be based off a timeless classic, Journey to the West, which again makes me question if they’ll be able to pull something truly interesting with the base material they’re working with right now… And the choices they’ve taken seem highly stereotypical and boring to be quite blunt and honest, and as such I for one am opting not to test it out. But I’m not condemning anyone who’s willing to try the game and play it.

      Actually I’m quite curious how they’ll feel about this game. Perhaps it’s pleasantly more then meets the eye, or perhaps my cautious attitude pays off well and the game does indeed wind up being just a sea of averagely answered expectations.

      On a side note. I still can’t believe some people out there thought that the traversal portion were unique and new… The hell, these people need to play more games…

      • revenent hell

        Well said.

  • revenent hell

    Im not a fan of this game but I just have to say its already being done..If “we” disslike it “we” shouldnt buy it to as not make it profitable. Honestly if Capcom cared about what fans thought they wouldnt have done this “reboot based in a different timeline” crap or whatever they are saying it is now days since it tends to change from one week to another to begin with.
    That said Some people genuinely want to play this game,I mean even I want to try at least a demo, But I dont plan to buy it day one since I have so manny personal issues against the game sure I hope it dosent sell as well as the company wants it to but since it is going to be released the best thing I can do is make mention of my gripes with it (see below I have issues with the body structure) and hope some how in some way someone will fix the problem.
    At this point they are NOT going to scrap the game and they are NOT going to change it to what fans want I know this but I also know the only thing that will get threw to the company is by not gaining revenue for it.

    And yeah they where very disrecpectfull to the fanbase thats why I choose this game to not be a day one purchase. I find it odd for people to create a game and troll the fanbase at the same time its kind of asking for hate to come thy way ya know?

  • malek86

    Three months sounds like a very short time to sell 2 million copies. Maybe they’ll revise their forecasts before it comes out.

    • Testsubject909

      Capcom’s previous forecast came quite short, they should probably go the humble route for a short while to regain some reputation in the eyes of their market…

  • http://www.facebook.com/Samanosuke John Esteves

    >DmC push back to 2013, no shitty DmC game for 2012

    Music to my ears, thank you Gaming God for this miracle.

  • Testsubject909

    ….Sooo… looking at these pictures… A pseudo-gothic-underaged-teenage-hinduesque girl?

    • puchinri

      The Hinduesque thing stuck out to me too, especially since in the screens, her skintone is a little harder to distinguish. However, the art for her looks very “ethnically neutral.” 

      I won’t be surprised if they did intentionally make some Hindu relation though. If it is, it’d actually make sense, because I felt like there was a hint of cultural appropriation w/Enslaved, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see it here.

  • Göran Isacson

    It’s nice to see that Capcom really is releasing this game for the PC- the more platforms the merrier, I say!

    As for the game itself and the delays… I’m curious as to who the Order’s leader is, as I desperately hope my pet-theory that it’s Vergil come true. Delays are… fine-ish, I guess. More time they have to polish the game the better for whomever ends up buying it.

  • puchinri

    On that note, the bit about racism; people like to use the intent argument too. To further the comparison, someone might say that the company’s intent was not to hurt, disrespect or annoy anyone, but just because they didn’t intend to does not it still doesn’t and that they’re justified or excused. 

    But considering how they somewhat shat on the games and fandom early on, I doubt that they cared. And plenty of people voiced valid opinions (and “complaints”) early on and those were hardly heeded, so I feel like the intent is way past here nor there anyway. They were disrespectful since day one and I kind of do want the game to do badly because of that. It goes beyond just “changing the formula and character.”

    • Solomon_Kano

      I’m interested to know what valid “complaints” were made early on that they ignored? Not to say there weren’t any, but I’m interested to see what there was.

      I, unfortunately, have seen few opinions shared beyond “we want old Dante back” and “it didn’t need a reboot”. So I’m interested to hear what else the fanbase has offered. DMC is one of my favorite series, but I found the reaction to this title downright pitiful. Again though, I’ve only seen two flavors of comments.

      • puchinri

        Well, I still meant opinions, but I said complaints, in quotes, because some people saw others’ comments as complaints. Mostly, just people noting the drastic differences and how the continuity and canon was kind of being messed with that was already established (before it was called a reboot, of course). And then some people noted NT’s horrible attitude to the fandom, and that didn’t clear up for a while.

        I think some of the people that said that it didn’t need a reboot were quite eloquent, and I agree with them. Personally, I think Capcom should have just said this was an AU title entirely that wouldn’t affect the main series. But by changing everything that everyone knew, and by so much, they’ve pushed away a lot of people. To me, it’s not so much that changes were made, but that they’re changing so many things that were already so ingrained in the series and it just doesn’t make sense.

        I think some of the people for the changes and reboot have been pretty eloquent too, but I don’t think they have as much of a point, and there’s been some nastiness and silliness of both sides. More than need be, really.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Hm.

      “I think some of the people for the changes and reboot have been pretty eloquent too, but I don’t think they have as much of a point”

      How so? I really would say those against a reboot for all of those things that happen in reboots (changed characters, story elements, etc.) are the ones lacking much of a point. Mind you, I love DMC. That’s just the simple reality of a reboot. I can understand those against a reboot and where they’re coming from, but wanting a reboot to be more like the original… well, that wouldn’t be much of a reboot. The point of reboots are usually to avoid retreading old beats.

      “Personally, I think Capcom should have just said this was an AU title entirely that wouldn’t affect the main series.”

      I’ve got to ask… what would that change? Then you’d leave yourself and anyone else who’s against this reboot in the same position as Mega Man fans. Not exactly, of course, but… I guess I’m saying not calling it a reboot wouldn’t make it any less a reboot. Not telling everyone it was replacing the original series wouldn’t change anything either. Nobody at Capcom has said on record as dead, but we see what that fanbase has assumed. That wouldn’t have done them or us any good. I’d rather they be straightforward than feed us half-truths. Even if this had been an AU title, if it met their expectations then it would’ve eclipsed the main series anyway. Then we’d be telling ourselves the next DMC was around the corner simply because Capcom didn’t “officially” declare it dead. That would suck.

      • puchinri

        They’re not against the changes themselves exactly, but how large and distinct many of the changes are. Instead of sticking with the rock roots, they went punk. They could have easily stuck with rock and just took a different approach. There was no reason to changing Dante’s appearance really (or his style), and if anything, they could have just simply expanded on things while taking their own route. I see a reboot as a “refresh” rather than completely altering everything. As of now, all this title has in common with the original is that there are demons, a character named Dante and we’ve seen a pizza slice. They didn’t need to add angels, or enforce this type of new setting in world in this manner.

        A main part of these changes being such a source of scorn for people too, is probably that the director just injected all of his tastes and style into it. Now, considering that’s what Kamiya did to an extent, that wouldn’t sound bad, right? But this isn’t his series. He took someone else’s series, with years of background behind it, and basically crapped on it (he insulted the games and fandom a lot early on) and then put what he likes over it, called it better, and expected people to be happy with that. Now, for everyone who enjoyed and could relate to the rock themes and darker elements, where does that leave them? And really, why should they like a game by someone who has shown them little to no respect? If the reboot was not attached to all of this obvious pandering to Tameem’s ego and stuck at least relatively close to what DMC is and is about, it would be different. But it’s just not simple changes, or refreshing the series or taking it to new places. It’s completely rewriting everything and leaving nothing in-tact. It’s as bad as Bay taking Transformers and helping take TMNT and just spitting on it. (Srsly, it’s Transformers, not Shia LeBouf the movie with some robots and sexy fanservice girlfriends. Just like this should be a fun take on rock, horror and ridiculous over the top fun instead of punk, dystopian demon government with all that other stuff going on.)

        It would change a lot, actually. X did great for the original Mega Man series, and really, Capcom are the only ones that really consider it dead, right? (They always said it had no fanbase outside of Japan too, didn’t they?)

        Really, expanding on the series instead of erasing years of continuity would have been a brilliant idea. If the new installment is a success, then great! They can continue it (and continue with the mainstream and further improve and expand on it). If this new installment bombs? Well, at least they would still have the main continuity and it would be unharmed by the change and how it affects everything. The point is really, if it’s not called a reboot, obviously it isn’t and that’s the point. If it’s an AU title, they could go wherever they want with it and not piss off so many people. 

  • canarinta

    But, you haven’t even played it!
    Wait, no.. It’s not even out!

  • MrRobbyM

    Wait. Do you hear that? I think I hear ignorance in the air.

    I don’t like Capcom’s practices either but to say the game is not worth buying simply because you don’t like the new DmC, a game that isn’t even out yet, is pretty ignorant.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Banned. 

  • Peace Legacy

     Hey Ishaan, at least leave the comment as it is so we can make an example out of it

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    I didn’t remove it. It got flagged, haha. There’s no point in bringing it back. :P

  • ForeverFidelis

    Could someone give me the general gist of the comment?I feel like it could have been something I’ve been thinking about this game based on the replies to it.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    It was just about pirating the game or something.

  • revenent hell

    Oh im by far no means a raging fan of this game or Capcom or how it goes about doing things as of late but I spend alot of money on my hobby,video games,and on a personal level reading stuff like that does offend me as an honest consumer,if indeed pirating was mentiond.
    I also quite like supporting the companies whom bring me my enjoyment so they can continue to do so.
    As I said I am a long shot away from being a supporter here for this game but I dont agree with any un legal means of playing it.

     I do plan to try it out myself,how can one realy properly bash something without trying it first?,Ive also been enraged by other games,Squeenix im lookin at you,but I plan to do so legally,and if I detest a game enough to not want to monetarily support it I simply dont buy it…Why would one even want to play a game they dont want to get honestly? If its not worth the trouble of getting it when its on sale down the road or second hand then frankly I dont think its worth getting it by anyother means…I  think that takes a bit more effort but thats just me.

  • mirumu

    I still have the comment in an old browser tab. The only mention of pirating was in the phrase “not even worth pirating”.

    The comment was inflammatory enough that there were plenty of other reasons to nuke it, but implying it advocated pirating the game is a little unfair.

  • Testsubject909

    Well, because his original comment is gone, I can only comment on people commenting to a now gone comment so.

    My comment to your comment which is now a comment by itself because who you replied to is now completely erased, making it hard to know in the exact context and only in the broad strokes, which personally is something that always annoys me because yes, even if the original post is gravely disturbing or offensive, it’s Always good to know what you’re messing with because you never know what thoughts may stem from the original post, no matter how horrendously vile it may be, as good can stem from anywhere.

    If we go by opinions… Wouldn’t a game not naturally be not worth buying by anyone who dislikes the game? And even if a game isn’t out yet, aren’t we capable of identifying core concepts, general feel, quality and whatnot from an abundance of alternative means of gaining information outside of biased reviews? Such as videos and  the likes? Of which we’ve had more then ample enough to make some deep and detailed analysis by breaking down visual information such as the pacing of combat, HUD, aesthetical appeal, etc etc?

    PS. If you guys haven’t figured it out yet, I’m playing advocates right now.

  • MrRobbyM

    I agree. He just stated it in an ignorant and entitled way.

  • Testsubject909

    Fair enough.

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