Shin Megami Tensei IV Coming To Nintendo 3DS [Update]

By Ishaan . May 29, 2012 . 4:50pm

UPDATE: The news has been confirmed via a scan of an ad for the game (above).

This week’s Famitsu magazine reveals Shin Megami Tensei IV in development for the Nintendo 3DS, according to Japanese retail blog, Sinobi, who reported the news via Twitter this evening.

 

The last title Atlus developed under the “Shin Megami Tensei” moniker—ie; not a spin-off or associated series like Persona or Devil Survivor—was Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (pictured), a first-person dungeon crawler, for the Nintendo DS.

 

We don’t know yet what kind of game Shin Megami Tensei IV will be, but we’ll keep our eyes peeled for more news, which should be coming soon enough—Sinobi says that the official site for Shin Megami Tensei IV will go live tomorrow at this URL.


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  • Xapth

    Rather than talk about how I would prefer it on a console,

    SH-SH-SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI F-F-FOUR!? -faints-

    • solbalmung

      I know right! 
      I was like “this is not an april’s fool right?”
      3DS sure is getting some love and I’m sure as hell gonna get one when I’ve saved enough money (Fire Emblem, Etrian Odessey 4, Soul Hackers, SMT 4, Good people Die -drool-).

    • boundries_san

      Praise Yehovah for us getting this game.^^

  • http://twitter.com/shinigamitwin kingofe3

    Yes! Another system seller! 3DS is killing it in Japan!

    • http://twitter.com/Jun212011 Tonttu

       Why Sony dont search for japanese games and still insist in focus PS Vita with western games?

      JAPANESE PEOPLE ONLY WANT JAPANESE GAMES, NOT WESTERN GAMES

      • Luna Kazemaru

        Who ever liked this comment I honestly feel sorry for them…

        • http://twitter.com/Jun212011 Tonttu

           Why?

          Think this, do you consider correct that Sony forget his own country and insist focus in western games

          But Nintendo, receive ALL big titles like Monster Hunter, Shin Megami Tensei, Kingdom Hears, Resident Evil and another more…

          Tell me, you dont feel anger with Sony for dont search great games and use PS VITA for the wrong way?

          • Luna Kazemaru
          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            I want to clarify here, because it sound like you genuinely don’t understand the problem with the Vita. I’m sure Sony are doing everything they can to get more Vita support. They aren’t a stupid company. Of course they’re trying hard to get support for their system.

            The problem is, their system isn’t selling, while their competitor’s system is. It’s as simple as that. Nintendo aren’t paying developers off to make these games for 3DS. They’re getting made because the system is selling well. 

            There was a time when 3DS wasn’t selling well and Nintendo’s president expressed concern that third-party developers would lose faith in them. That’s why they cut the price of the system in order to help boost sales.

            So, Vita’s problem is a chicken-and-egg one. Without games, the system won’t sell, but without the system selling well, developers won’t be confident enough in it to put their games on there.

  • jello44

    I thought Strange Journey WAS SMT 4.

    Looks like a 3DS is in my future purchases.

  • malek86

    Uhm… and here I thought Atlus had insisted on Strange Journey being technically SMT4.

    Anyway, the site opens tomorrow. I’m eager to see what kind of setting they pull off.

  • XYZ_JolteonZ980

    Ah nice more jrpgs for 3ds is nice. Hopefully it has animu cutscenes from madhouse or satelight. 

    • mirumu

      I hope it’s the kind of game, like SMT3, that doesn’t need any anime cutscenes.

  • http://twitter.com/Orange_kun Orange

    I am pretty sure Strange Journey is Shin Megami IV, so it seems pretty untrue.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Not in name, though. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=749504598 Shane Guidaboni

    What?! I’m super excited. There’s a site opening tomorrow? I hope it’s first person. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ON4VQWWXAQC6DHFTFXUXW6EWRI D Lynch

    Jaw = dropped… :O

  • http://twitter.com/WarbossAohd Warboss Aohd

    would rather it on one o’ da other consolez.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Banned.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robfumega KID_CHAINSAW

        Banning people for voicing a console preference for SMTIV is incredibly lame. Consider me one less visitor to this site.

        • http://wiredjungle.wordpress.com/ DrakosAmatras

          As opposed to voicing console preferences for other games, which is cool…?

          Seriously speaking, this kind of console preference talk just goes nowhere. At best, it’s an unproductive statement without much else to add/reply to; at worst, it can start a console war, and that’s definitely not something good to have. Which is why this sort of talk is not accepted here.

        • boundries_san

          Because the the voice is given there is without any valid reason for sure and of course that statement is easily asking for flame here.

  • DuskSharkEX

    Isn’t Strange Journey technically SMT4?

    • Yesshua

      Nope.  It was originally going to be SMT 4, but Atlus got cold feet and decided not to make it a main franchise numbered title.  Nobody knows why exactly, but it’s not a huge deal either way I reckon.  The game came out and the game was good.  Numbers and subtitles are just fodder for superfans :)

      • leadintea

         Because it didn’t take place in Japan.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      http://gonintendo.com/?p=98913

      “Technically” it was, until this announcement… I think that ‘s the best way to approach this subject now

    • boundries_san

      No number no count.^^

  • http://twitter.com/Jun212011 Tonttu

    Senran Kagura 1 y 2, Shin Megami Tensei 4, Monster Hunter 4, KH…and very probable Persona 5…

    and what got PS VITA? craps like uncharted, resistance, little big planet…

    Sony, YOU ARE COMPLETY LOSS

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Please don’t post this kind of nonsense around here. Since this is your first time, you get the benefit of a warning. I’m leaving the comment up as an example for other people to take note of.

      • Luna Kazemaru

        First time?

      • http://twitter.com/Jun212011 Tonttu

         And why note of me?

        Do you consider “obsene” my posts?

        so, in what kind form i can express my insatisfation for PS Vita and Sony for dont fight for great titles?

        I am tired of dont read any new in Famitsu about PS VITA, everything is for 3DS, what happening with Sony and VITA?

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          You can certainly express your dissatisfaction for Vita, but I think there’s a better way to do it than throwing a tantrum and calling the system and its games “crap”. That isn’t very productive and no one is likely to take you seriously if you go about it that way.

          It also gets kind of old if you keep on and on doing it. You know, we have an Open Thread for random off-topic discussions. If you need to ramble about something, you can always do it there. That’s what it’s for.

    • Nemesis_Dawn

      Why would Persona 5 be on the 3DS?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Morandi/100000837836996 Daniel Morandi

      Oh look, a fanboy. Well, did you notice that most games won’t come here but you can import them…oh yeah, but you have region lock, durrr. I have 3Ds and only few games I bough in all this time.

      While VITA have to work a little more on his games most of them are fine but the main problems it’s the price. When they tell you that you have to buy your own memory + the expensive games + the portable itself. Vita becomes really expensive.

  • SirRichard

    I was wondering when they were getting around to this, Nintendo did boast an SMT title amongst the massive list of early backers for the 3DS.

    The real problem? The 3DS is region-locked.

    My hopes are riding on you, Ghostlight!

    • malek86

      I would assume something like this would get localized pronto. True, we didn’t get Strange Journey, but that seemed to be a time when Ghostlight was a bit less active and the IP was more spread out (Squenix published P4, Koei published Devil Summoner, etc.). Now it would seem that they have finally got a hold of the rights, so I wouldn’t worry about this.

      • SirRichard

        I wish I could share your optimism on this, but it’s an Atlus title. Even with Ghostlight’s great track record of these things (given the situation), I still say it’s basically 70/30 against us for it to make the jump.

        • malek86

          I would have agreed two years ago. But today, I’d say it’s the opposite, we have a 70/30 chance of getting it. Maybe we’ll get it late, but it will probably come.

          • Testsubject909

            When there were doubts that we’d get Persona 4 Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena, Atlus made an announcement for it.

            When there were doubts that we’d get Persona 4 Golden, Atlus made an announcement for it… a bit late what some doubters growing into beggers.

            And when people believed we’d just never get Catherine. Atlus sent out a little message to everyone asking a very simple question.

            I’m pretty sure it’s highly likely we’ll get SMT 4 for the 3DS. And as you said, at worst, it’ll come late.

          • SirRichard

            I would point out that that’s Atlus USA. Yeah, the US is guaranteed to get all those games, but are we in Europe? Atlus honestly don’t seem to care, the amount of time it takes publishers interested in bringing their stuff here gets silly at times and I don’t think it can be solely blamed on the diversity of the EU at times, not when other developers’ games arrive in a more timely fashion.

            For instance, we don’t know who’ll get us The Golden and we didn’t get Catherine until three months ago. 

          • Testsubject909

            Ah… Sorry. Canadian here.

            That said, beyond you guys, I’m even more worried about Australia…

          • SirRichard

            Australia is an entirely different bucket of fish, yeah. They still have government issues to work out, and even then their treatment by the industry is easily worse than ours most of the time.

        • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

           SirRichard, I can’t reply to your comment reply posted below, but I’d just like to point out something…

          “For instance, we don’t know who’ll get us The Golden and we didn’t get Catherine until three months ago.”

          But we still got it ;) Seriously, times are a-changing for Shin Megami Tensei games in Europe. Ghostlight is helping a great deal, by publishing most of the SMT games here, and other publishers are also realizing there is a market for the series in Europe, that’s not exactly huge yes, but it is a certain and avid market for the SMT games. So we just do our part, and be patient. I’m pretty sure we’ll get this game in the future. We’ll just need to wait some more.

          • SirRichard

            I know, I know, I just can’t help but be miserable about Atlus, honestly. To be fair this is the best we’ve had it for years, and Ghostlight getting both Devil Survivor games at once is probably a good sign of things to come.

            Just let me wallow in my misery, Nintendo and Square Enix of Europe’s stellar performances of late are sort of making miss it in spite of the newfound smug grinning I can do!

  • klkAlexar

    Could it be they are remaking Strange Journey for the 3ds like they did with Devil Survivor? I hope not, I want a new SMT more in the vein of Nocturne than SJ.  

    • malek86

      That’s… a possibility I hadn’t thought about.

      I would hope it’s a new game though.

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

      Pretty sure it’s a new game. Or else they’d simply call this Strange Journey, and announce the remake as such.

  • Bunzi

    YES. 

    Pimp the crap out of P4 all you like if it means we can get these every few years or so!

    I guess it’s 3DS time soon for me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Morandi/100000837836996 Daniel Morandi

       That’s the problem, psp/vita are like handhelds for Persona ports while the DS/3DS take all the new games (only exception is Soul Hackers)

      • Solomon_Kano

        I don’t really see the problem there.

        The SMT series has been on Nintendo systems longer than Sony systems, and the Persona series has been wholly featured on Sony systems. Not really any reason to have expected otherwise by this point.

        They weren’t ever going to do a new Persona for PSP and they needed to do 4 to finish off the ports, so they put it on the more capable Vita. With SMT, they apparently weren’t interested in pursuing remakes on the DS and went ahead with giving it new entries. That carried over to 3DS. The last gen should have prepared you for this.

      • Testsubject909

        I’d say give it time really. When the install base increases, it’ll be a safer portable to create projects for with greater hope of revenue and sales. As it is, with some well known title, they’re increasing the list of games to be played on the Vita and the increased library or loyalty to a brand will in turn increase the install base. With some original IPs also made specifically for the Vita (such as Gravity Daze that’s coming up and certainly has a lot of hype, at least I’m very hyped for it… Ah Kat…) there’ll also be more sales.

        It’ll be slow going, but it’s going to be steady going. Then there’s also the eventual Little Big Planet game that’s going to come here, which itself would also encourage some sales, after all… Buying LBP is like buying a lifetime subscription to countless mini games, indie games and whatnot. Sure, it has the same palette and restrictions from it’s physics engine, but hey, the variety that came from LBP 2 and the new addition of touch screen controls and whatnot for LBP Vita makes me think that we’ll be able to find a lot more new things for it afterwards.

        Plus I’m especially excited for LBP Vita because that’ll provide an open source for some gamer would be developer who’re more into just playing the game and tweaking with mods to come up with some ideas that hopefully will be picked up by the gaming industry when they apply some good ideas to implementing touch in game. Though right off the top of my head, for the most part, I tend to see puzzle games being the main road here… And we’ve got Escape Plan which is just that, a puzzle game, that certainly shows good use of the Vita’s features…

        But I digress.

  • Nemesis_Dawn

    Admittedly, it’s a bit disappointing, as I was expecting the main series to stick to the consoles with spin-offs on the portables, but I guess if they feel they’ll sell more on the 3DS than anything else, I can understand it.

    I do have to say I have a secret hope they’ll do a reverse-Persona on this, though, with the original on the 3DS with the upgraded versions on the HD consoles.

    • mirumu

      I kind of feel the same way, but it makes a lot of sense. Atlus already have solid experience working with the 3DS hardware, development costs will be comparatively low, and the 3DS has clearly started picking up momentum in the market at this point. With a bit of luck it might be a title that pushes the system a bit so we can see what the 3DS is really capable of.

      Regarding the game itself I hope it borrows more from Nocturne and earlier SMT games in style rather than the the more recent Persona and Devil Survivor titles. It’s not that I have anything against the newer ones, but the older games had a certain charm of their own.

      • zeta

        yeah I kind like those more Seinen Illustration rather than shounen looks.

    • Zeik56

      Edit: Completely misread your post. Oops.

      I really wouldn’t get my hopes up on a HD upgrade. Doing a “reverse-Persona” would effectively be the same as completely remaking the game. The cost of doing that would never be worthwhile for them, since not only is SMT more niche, but they’d even lose sales from plenty of people who already played it.

  • LynxAmali

    Wasn’t Strange Journey IV? Wouldn’t this be V?

    At least that’s what I heard around the release of SJ.

    • http://watercrown.info/ Ryusui

      Strange Journey is SMTIV in the same sense that Sonic & Knuckles was Sonic the Hedgehog IV.

      It’s a main-line game, but not officially a numbered sequel.

    • Exkaiser

      While it was in development, it was considered SMT IV, but the number was dropped sometime after that.

  • ShinGundam

    Is it first or third person?

    • http://simplephilistine.wordpress.com/ Arla

       I hope it’s third. Probably wont know for a couple weeks unless that site opens with a lot of details.

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

       I’m gonna guess this will be first person. Strange Journey was on the DS and it was first person like all the other SMT games. The only SMT main series game in third person was Nocturne, and that was on the ps2, so I’m guessing they went with the 3DS partly because they wanted to keep the series traditional and make it first person (that and because the system has a huge, growing userbase in japan and prolly because it’s cheaper for them :P)

  • Vivian Mai

    Oooh, if this get’s localized, I might be tempted to get a 3DS. Just as soon as it comes out. Gah.

    • Brandonmkii

      I really don’t think you have anything to worry about. SMT is a niche, but lucrative property in the west. It’ll come here eventually.

  • Quinton Cunningham

    Whatever happened to the Persona game for 3DS they announced a LONG time ago?

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      That was just a list of stuff that publishers pledged that they would “consider” bringing to 3DS. It shouldn’t be taken as a guarantee that all of those games are in development.

      • cj_iwakura

        Someone at NeoGAF suggested that it became Soul Hackers.

    • Yesshua

      I still think it’s gonna be Persona 3D, because that corny title changeup on Persona 3 is just too good to pass up.

      Seriously though, we may not ever see that project.  In that original list of games they listed 1 SMT game, 1 Devil Survivor game, and 1 Persona game.  Since then we’ve seen 1 SMT game (SMT IV), 1 Devil Survivor game (Overclocked), and 1 Devil Summoner game.  That’s the same total of three projects, so I’ll wager that the Persona project just became the Devil Summoner project instead.  Which I’m fine with.  I mean, Persona 5 we’re pretty sure will be on PS3 and all the other Persona games have ports already.  Persona 3DS was probably just going to be a port of a PSP port, so I’m much more excited to get the port of the Devil Summoner game that never even released in the US before.

  • Juuu

    MY BODY. IS LADY. But seriously, this is great news! As excited as I am for Soul Hackers’ remake, an all-new mainline Megami Tensei game sounds amazing. They’ve always tended to have slightly more complex/darker stuff in mainline SMT, though the metaseries in general veers on the mature side…I just can’t wait to see what they come up with this time! :] 

  • Spirit Macardi

    Here’s hoping that it’ll be fully voiced like Devil Survivor was.

    The SMT games are fantastic, especially if you’re a big mythology or theology buff. Most of the demons/deities/angels/etc. in the games are entirely accurate to their namesakes. Even when they aren’t though, they’re at least a strikingly original depiction (Mara, for instance).

    • Hraesvelgr

      I’d prefer no voice acting, but as long as it’s an actual new game, I don’t care too much.

      • Spirit Macardi

        I just think having it voiced adds more of an immersive feel, and Atlus has had a great track record in terms of choosing English VAs.

    • Godspoken

      As much as I like voice acting, no mainline SMT game has had it before and I fear change.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nanaya-Shiki/100001746853483 Nanaya Shiki

    for the 3ds……seriously isn’t smt the main series? why would you put on a handheld…not to mention its the 3ds.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Banned! Keep it coming guys…it’s like a buffet in here! :D

      • http://chronotwist.deviantart.com/ JustThisOne

        I understand that complaining about which games should go on which console is kind of an annoying thing that you mentioned specifically not to talk about in the “rules”.  But at the same time, I feel like some of these people are trying to ask legit questions. They’re just expressing it the wrong way, y’know?

        Look through some of the previous comments that these people have made. They aren’t repeat offenders or anything like that.

        I think what they really mean is why would they choose the 3DS – which is assumed to be a handheld whose market mainly consist of kids – for an SMT game – which is usually a very serious mature game.

        Am I being too naive or lenient here?

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          Too naive. It’s nowhere near as deep as that. It’s just “BAWWWW why isn’t this coming to my console???” :P

        • Altritter

          I don’t necessarily agree with the mass banning, but I think that most of the people complaining about the console choice are more angry that it’s on the 3DS because they think that ‘main’ SMT games should be on consoles and that the series still hasn’t gotten on consoles this gen, not because of the kid thing. 3DS already has plenty of “mature’ games on it anyway.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            @JustThisOne:disqus @Altritter:disqus Just to address what both of you guys said–
            I understand your concerns about the banning, but honestly, we don’t have a choice. We aren’t doing this because we like it; we’re doing it out of necessity.

            All it takes is a couple of comments complaining about XX console, and then everyone that dislikes that console or is a fan of a competing console jumps on the bandwagon. It’s unproductive and pointless. If people behaved themselves more often, we wouldn’t have to do this. It’s especially a concern with E3 coming up.

            I’d also like to take the opportunity to say that we’ll be getting additional moderators to help keep the comments under control in the near future, and it is my hope that they’ll do a good job of leading productive discussion.

          • http://chronotwist.deviantart.com/ JustThisOne

            That’s fair.

            And I can see what you mean by the E3 thing. Things will get crazy. I will get crazy. :>

          • epsilonalpha

            “unproductive” and “pointless”.

            Congrats Ishaan, you succeed making me rolling on the floor facepalming.

            Guess I’m done with this site. Yes yes, I know you won’t miss me.

        • Luna Kazemaru

           He is just sick of all the complaining lately I bet. I’m sure he wanted to hit me with the ban hammer of doom a few times to.

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          We should arrange a naked dance party every night during E3. Everyone gets crazy and rolls in the mud naked. Then, we dance.

          • Farid Belkacemi

             I’m so IN !! :D

      • boundries_san

        Ban buffet is so cool here.^^

  • AnimeRemix

    Never played one of the main stream SMT games yet (only Devil Survivor 1 and P3: FES), so I might actually keep a eye on this. Just trying to get more into the SMT series. =)

  • Zeidge

    But. but but… I swore not to get a 3DS until region lock was resolved…

    My will is wavering!! Must. Resist!! 

    • Solomon_Kano

      Give in~

    • Nyandroid

      You can’t resist! Give in~!
      Give in to SMT~~!

    • zeta

      Soul Hackers and SMT4 is waving at you. Your will shall be bent sooner or later.

    • Handsome Luigi ♢

       Give in!

    • boundries_san

      Join to the Law path where u must follow all Nintendo orders.^^

  • Solomon_Kano

    Oh my. People had been asking and now Atlus has gone and done it. Persona 5 in the works, SMT4 coming to 3DS. Yep, they’re on a roll.

  • icecoffemix

    Nooooooo, I want it on home consoles or at least Vita. :(

    And I guess this shut all those guys who regard Strange Journey as the mothership title.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Le banned!

      • boundries_san

        Lol. That harsh.^^

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Morandi/100000837836996 Daniel Morandi

    >3DS

    Why YHWH, WHY!? srly. MEGATEN for ps3 WHEN!? Oh, at least they are going to bring the game (I trust Atlus USA) don’t have to worry much.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Baaaaanned. 

      • Guest

        So many being banned…….stuff like that initial comment does cause console arguments…..I guess, but I think that banning them is a bit too harsh. Maybe asking them to please stop, then ban if they do…it…..again…..Oh lord. Please don’t ban me next. I’m just making an opinion. ._.

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          Do you honestly think we haven’t tried the “nice” way yet? We tried it for over a year with no results, and the discussions in the comments took a real nosedive. I’ve seen nothing but improvement ever since we started being more firm.

          • Guest

            lol Sorry. Now I understand……actually you already warned someone a few hours ago. Your reply to @twitter-451279182:disqus. I didn’t see that til’ now. My bad. Continue on with your firmness. :3

          • Testsubject909

            I was warned in the Open Thread and quite honestly am a bit afraid for my well being.

            Doesn’t help me that I tend to talk first and then look down the line of comment, which means I tend to see the newer comments prior to seeing the older ones.

  • konsama

    Wow now i got another reason to get a 3DS, more like a Japanese 3DS, i don’t like the US line up even a bit.

  • Kebo Martin

    I was happy I have an Asian 3DS..then I saw my firmware was in U :(

  • MCoelho

    Sweet. I’m hoping for a fully voiced game.

    Atlus wants me to go broke, seriously.

  • Yesshua

    Wow!  This is super exciting!  I wonder if this is gonna be more like SMT III (overworld and non-grid motion) or Strange Journey (dungeons, dungeons, grids, and more dungeons).  Strange Journey was at one point going to be SMT IV, so we know that throwing the main franchise back to first person dungeon crawling is something that Atlus has considered in the past.

    My personal preference would be a game styled like Strange Journey.  I think that it’s cool how SMT can carve out a niche with the old school first person dungeon crawling that no other company is even messing with.  I think it’s cool that the main series can evolve without changing genre, even as spin offs experiment with every other type of RPG under the sun.

    How do you guys feel though?  Would you rather main SMT be a little more normal and give us an overworld and towns and things?  Do you want the retro tile by tile experience?  Which do you think would fit best on the 3DS?  (Personally I think that 3D in a first person dungeon crawl would be awesome!  3D wouldn’t add as much to a traditional overhead JRPG camera angle like in SMT 3)

    • malek86

      Actually we have a lot of first person crawlers. Etrian Odyssey, Class of Heroes (until the next one, at least) Unchained Rexx… overall, it’s not like SMT is the only one still doing it.

      I hope someday we’re finally going to get a first person dungeon crawler that doesn’t use the tile system.

    • Testsubject909

      I’m going to guess more classical dungeon crawler with possible overworld exploration akin to SMT 2 and 3, but no in-area third person exploration, so far more akin to SMT 2.

    • boundries_san

      Well actually i love both of the styles here.^^ SMT 3 and Strange Journey has their own fun here.^^

      • Yesshua

        Totally!  I don’t think many would argue that either is a low quality project.  I was just kinda trying to gauge which people would be more interested in seeing more of.  My preference for Strange Journey style is pretty obvious, but I was wondering what other people prefer and why.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zimmer-Remmiz/100001573602233 Zimmer Remmiz

    Oh my, I cannot wait, here is hoping that Atlus USA can get to work localizing it asap, this is a game that I am going to need…

  • Pope The Rev XXVIII

    Wasn’t strange Journey Considered IV? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/robfumega KID_CHAINSAW

      Strange Journey was never ever considered IV, except by people making things up.

    • MrSirFeatherFang
  • pressstart

    Please, please, please have Kazuma Kaneko design all the characters for this. I absolutely love his character design. Something about their faces are so mesmerizing. No disrespect to the Persona artist (Shigenori Soejima?), his stuff is great too.

    I hope they keep the option for 3rd person like SMT3.

    • Testsubject909

      Well… Considering how he got his inspiration for some of the Personas in Persona 2.

      He might need his wife to throw a shoe at another PC screen for him to get some ideas or something.

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

       Yes! I’m a huge fan of his work. I even purchased an artbook containing some ilustrations from him. I adore his devil designs for the SMT games. So many quirky details.

  • http://twitter.com/Laith_Rem Laith Rem

    SMTIV on the go. (don’t you mean on the 3DS =V)

    Loving it. 

  • http://twitter.com/TerrorCats Scissors

    I don’t understand the issue here. As many commenters already noted Strange Journey was at one time considered SMT 4, and there’s been plenty of SMT on Nintendo platforms before. Why it’s on portables instead of consoles is because of the cheaper development cost. As for why 3DS it’s because of how well it’s performing,  a Vita version is entirely possible too. This is still a rumor so we barely know anything.

    • Justin Graham

      True. We don’t know what Atlus has in store for the Vita beyond Persona 4 Golden, but Atlus is no stranger to putting SMT on Nintendo handhelds. I kind of expected this turn of events, as they had announced an unnamed SMT game at E3 two years ago, along with two other games, one of which turned out to be Devil Survivor Overclocked.

      What I’m puzzled by is Atlus’s announcement of Persona 3DS back at E3 2010. Might that have been cancelled in favor of Soul Hackers 3DS?

    • http://www.facebook.com/robfumega KID_CHAINSAW

      SJ was never considered IV. People were simply making things up.

      • Strain42

         The confusion came because an interview with Kazuma Kaneko where he said it was going to be SMTIV and they just decided not to number it.

        In the same way that if… was basically called SMT3 before Nocturne came along, SJ was called SMTIV, and now it won’t be.

        Not a big deal. I am glad the debate is settled though.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510234553 Jason Ryer

         At one point it sadly was. made up or not core smt games are far and few since the design team is focused on catherine and persona this is a big plus for the 3ds its like dragon quest for the ds.

        this is a core sm game we should all be happy because these things rarely happen. :p

    • Testsubject909

      Oh hi 61, haven’t seen you in a long time.

      And it is true that there’s technically little that would prevent them from making it for both the 3DS and the Vita. Some would argue the dual screen, but unless both are crucial and not just one having a menu and map while the other has the actual game shown on it, would I consider it something that would prevent the game from getting multi-handheld releases.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/JadenPrinceton C.Guzman

    I wish I could’ve played the first three SMT games, I call myself unlucky to have not been able too…but at least I could go with SMT4! Rumors or not, I’m definitely excited, especially because of that SMT game that was listed like a long time ago.

    Perhaps I should contact the Rumormongers and see if they have any scoop… ( ≖‿≖)

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

      You should at least try out Nocturne. I’m pretty sure the game will eventually march on to PSN as a PS2 downloadable game. If not,then seek out Strange Journey for the Nintendo DS. It’s a great throwback to the older SMT titles, it plays pretty much like one.

      • https://twitter.com/#!/JadenPrinceton C.Guzman

        I actually bought Nocturne in September, but have had no time to play it because I got both of the Raidou games the month before. I was sooo lucky and it even had a manual!

  • Mago Iichi

    Megaton if true and Day 1.

  • Farid Belkacemi

    I’m more of a Persona  fan but still, a new SMT is always a good news ! I’m looking forward to P5, Soul Hackers and this one now :)

  • Guest

    Despite being just a rumor, I’m just happy that there will probably be a new SMT game coming our way. X3

    • Solomon_Kano

      http://andriasang.com/con173/megaten4_3ds/

      Not rumor. Sinobi says, so be definitely happy!

      • Guest

        You, sir, are too awesome, and so is Atlus. And now I shall prepare for my usual hype by sacrificing my skin and giving it to the company I support, Atlus (they can sell the skin for big bucks!). :D

        *Runs to get a knife*

        • Solomon_Kano

          Heh. A Mike skin coat. Like mink with less PETA rage.

      • boundries_san

        Lol….. it seems that many or the guys who gets ban here moves there to complain about why they get ban lol.^^

  • Beautiful Daisy ♥

    It seems like Ishaan’s having a banning fest here… O.o. I’m just going to lurk back into the shadows now before I’m the next target ^_^ lol

    • Solomon_Kano

      It’s rather funny. People I’ve never heard of are… well, I probably won’t hear from them again now lol.

      • Beautiful Daisy ♥

        Heh, I don’t know most of the people here ^_^ I am but a simple Open Thread girl, lol. Viva la Ban XD

        • Solomon_Kano

          Ban voyage! :D

    • boundries_san

      *Hide behind Suigetsu* ^^

  • Alexander Aubert

    so SMT series you have betray sony….

    • Farid Belkacemi

      You too, you wanna get banned by THE ishaanator ? Be careful, he’s… Here… Somewhere… :D

      • Suicunesol

        *cue Jaws music*

      • boundries_san

        Call him Ishron now.^^(Ishaan + Metatron)

    • Luna Kazemaru

      *is trying so hard not to go there*

      • Testsubject909

        Go there. It might be funny to see his reaction to finding out that the first SMT was on the Nintendo.

        Oh, whoops… Guess I spoiled it huh?

    • zeta

      uhhmm dude didnt megami tensei started with NES/Famicom way way back… how is that a betrayal?

    • Herok ♞

       first 2 games were nintendo…

  • ryne11

    Atlus, do you know how long it took to save up for a new car? And now you want to make it so I can’t afford the insurance too with all the games you be slipping out the door?

  • ryne11

    disregard

  • DongT

    wish i had a 3ds :(

    • boundries_san

      BUY THEM.^^

  • Blur Will

    Good news

    Persona…….  : )

    • RmanX1000

      in 2010 there was a list of games in the works for 3DS. Persona 3DS was on that list.

      • Strain42

         There was also Devil Survivor (which became Overclocked) and Shin Megami Tensei, which is obviously this. Don’t assume every MegaTen announcement is gonna be about Persona.

  • dahuuuundge

    I thought Strange Journey is SMT4? Either way enough with the ports. I’m fine with Persona 2 and Devil Summoner since they’re pretty old. I want my SMT5 and Persona 5.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robfumega KID_CHAINSAW

      SJ was never IV.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      http://gonintendo.com/?p=98913

      Correct… I thought Strange Journey was not a main installment, but someone on this site corrected me, I forgot who…
      ugh… I guess it was initially going to be IV, they they decided to take it out for reasons in the article. With the information though, people can expect the game to be on the level of a main installment though, which is good.

    • kylehyde

      Certainly this issue about Strange Journey is kinda messy, however I think that they (Atlus) considerer Strange journey as part of the main-series of SMT, but is not a numerical SMT, something like Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword was to Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden 2.

    • Zeik56

       …This isn’t a port.

    • Guest

      “I thought Strange Journey is SMT4?”

      Nope.

      “Either way enough with the ports.”

      It’s not a port.

      “I’m fine with Persona 2 and Devil Summoner since they’re pretty old.”

      How nice.

      “I want my SMT5 and Persona 5.”

      You’ll have to wait a while.
      Done.

      • Testsubject909

        Actually…

        Since Strange Journey is not SMT 4 and this is SMT 4.

        Doesn’t that mean that his desire for SMT 5 needs to be knocked down 1 number, and thus be a desire for SMT 4…

        Meaning he got what he wanted?

    • Testsubject909

      This is technically the SMT 5 you wanted, since it’s an SMT made after Strange Journey. Just that since Strange Journey never had a number, it left the number 4 free to be taken up, and this game did as such…

      Or do you mean you’re going to wait for the next SMT after this one’s been released?

  • http://www.facebook.com/robfumega KID_CHAINSAW

    The entire Megami Tensei series started on a Nintendo console, so no, Sony was not betrayed. Besides, third party series owe no allegiance to a platform holder. 

    • kylehyde

      Amen for that bro, amen

    • boundries_san

      Lucky someone who understand here.^^

    • TitoWhatever

      Completely agree, it’s like people complaining when a Metal Gear game hoes multiplatform.

  • Joom

    I don’t like this banning fest. Only one person really said something offensive and you let him off for a really questionable reason. Smh. I rather liked this site before.

  • Vadim Merzhey

    Hmmm, turnes out SJ wasn’t SMT4. Either way, great news.

  • darkfox1

    THIS must be the Persona game for the 3DS that they have made the trademark for all these years.

    • Herok ♞

       This is the SMT game, the Persona game may or maynot be coming.

      • darkfox1

        Sorry about that see the reply I said to Testsubject909

    • Testsubject909

      I don’t even know what to say here… Yous gotta be trollin.

      *sigh*

      Well, I might as well keep going like a broken record, just in case.

      Officially, Persona is not part of SMT, it’s marketed as such here in North America and whatnot mainly so to bank on the name of SMT which is actually it’s own series, while Persona is also it’s own series. The original Persona game has no additional title to it and is simply called Persona Revelations, which is itself in Japan Megami Ibunroku which is a spin-off but not an active part of the SMT series.

      So it’s definitely just SMT 4.

      That and, if it was a Persona game… Wouldn’t that mean Persona 4: The 3DS edition?

      Great Scott no, we’re starting this all over again!

      • darkfox1

        Ah sorry I know that Persona is not the main SMT. My bad I said that because the trademark I think was under the Persona title or it was probably just a SMT trademark. Well with this announcement I guess we know its gonne be SMT IV. Hehe sorry for the confusion. 

        • Testsubject909

          No worries.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    Now that IS some big news. It’s been a while since the last mainline SMT title and the 3DS is a really good fit for this kind of title.

    Personally, I’m not very familiar with the series, since I haven’t played any of the games (although I plan to). However, one thing I can say is that I hope this title will have awesome music, just like the previous games in the series:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86qVxcL5gcM

    • Solomon_Kano

      Same boat here. I haven’t gotten around to playing the series yet, but this news has been rather exciting.

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

      Thanks so much for having posted that youtube link. God I love this battle theme. Love it, love it, love it. The SMT series is amazing!!

    • amagidyne

      I, for one, am hoping for unintelligible robot screaming.

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQhgTN7bNH8

      Speaking of which, Atlus really needs to release high-quality versions of all the variations on the battle theme.

  • kylehyde

    All right I think that is safe to me to say Atlus I love you. With this game and Soul Hackers Atlus has my money, I just hope that Atlus can continue with their good record in SMT localizations. Anyway, they have really made my day.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Soul Hackers 2? Did I miss that, or did you mean to refer to update for 3DS?

      • kylehyde

        My bad

        • Solomon_Kano

          No prob.

  • cj_iwakura

     Based on that (GODLY) concept art, I think Kaneko is in.

    But what I really want is The Great War(Lucifer VS Yahweh).

    It’s Time.

    • Testsubject909

      I see I’m not the only one who went for that ending in Nocturne…

      Oh hi Yahw-FREIKUGEL!

  • Solomon_Kano

    Oh boy, now it’s really time for excitement. That concept art already has my attention, Atlus.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      Kaneko-san on the Roll

  • http://twitter.com/ChestnutBowl Chestnut Bowl

    While I would’ve preferred this on the Vita, I’m looking forward to reading about the game.

  • Nyandroid

    I really need to learn more about SMT in general.
    Im most familiar with P3 and P4. Ill definately take a look into this.

    • http://blackstar2661.deviantart.com/ Taijutsu-Joshua

      Same here, brah.

    • KuroiKen

      In Japan, Persona games aren’t considered to be part of MegaTen. Just because of some similarities, Atlus USA named it SMT: Persona in the west, while in Japan it’s just Persona.

      I really advise to start with original MegaTen, but since no translation is available for this great NES title, you can start with SMT/SMT2, they are english patched.

      • Testsubject909

        More precisely. The Persona series tends to dig more into interpersonal relations and society as well as psychology. Whereas SMT tends to go for philosophy and greater general themes.

        While in the meantime, other stories that have been branded with SMT here, really aren’t part of SMT and lack the general themes and staples of SMT or Persona games. Such as DDS which, outside of it’s combat system, really had nothing similar to the SMT series. And the Devil Summoner series which definitely was it’s own thing and, from what I understand, is more closely related to Soul Hackers.

        • KuroiKen

          Well, considering Soul hackers is actually a part of Devil Summoner(originally it’s called Devil Summoner: Akuma Zensho, or Devil Summoner Soul Hackers), it’s of course closely related to the Devil Summoner series.
          Captain Obvious! To the rescue!

          • Testsubject909

            Captain Obvious! Where’s your sidekick Sarcasm Boy?

      • http://twitter.com/ChestnutBowl Chestnut Bowl

        While it is not a part of the SMT series, The Persona series (like Digital Devil Saga) is still a part of the Megami Tensei franchise in Japan.

    • Testsubject909

      SMT works more on general ideologies and philosophies, scaling you from Lawful to Neutral to Chaotic with none granted any greater rank then the other. There is no great evil within these three, there are just differing philosophies fighting against each other.

      Nocturne for example had three ruling philosophies and three alternate routes.

      The three ruling philosophies, which were basically three different endings, were as such:

      (Do note, these are rather relatively minor spoilers and should in no way ruin the story or the setting, just provide a bit of insight prior to diving in. Still, if you’d rather be completely blind when jumping into the series or the game, stop here.)

      A person wanting to make a paradise where might makes right. The strong would survive, the weak would perish, a world of law, where law is king, where rules are holy and the world is in it’s right order, where no one would be sick for all would be strong and all would have a place of importance for, again, all would be strong.

      A person wanting to make a paradise where everyone was at peace. Everyone would have their own world, a world of their own to make their paradise, a world of blissful solitude and harmonious peace of the self, secluded from the influence of all others, thus removing any form of societal problem by removing it from the source, by removing society.

      A person wanting to make a harmonious paradise. Everyone would work towards the well being of the world and the world in return would repay in kind, subduing human emotions, greed, ambition and chaotic elements from the self and instead making it so that all are part of a greater system that they would commit too, a very zen and pre-ordained path of greater peace and prosperity through absolute communism.

      The other three was one that desired a Neutral world, our world as it was, for all it’s flaws and it’s greatness, for the freedom of will of all and all it’s natural clashes, though it may breed great evil it breeds great good and yes, due it’s ever shifting form, there would still be tragedies a plenty, but it would be the world of each inhabitant within, to shape as a whole.

      A world where peace in any form would be given away, instead moving to complete and pure anarchy, a greater expression of freedom without any rules or any bindings of any sort, abandoning society in an entirely different manner, not by ridding the world of all other beings around oneself, but rather by tossing away any semblance of rule, instead having all live like demons, each for themselves in a new chaotic world.

      And my personal favorite ending… The True Demon’s ending.

      Simply put… Epic… (edit: and certainly translates the actions of God in a different manner, making him, God that is, to be the ultimate tyrant and providing the protagonist of SMT 1 as an example of God’s great tyranny over mankind. Now I, in no way, told you what the actual ending is. I’m just saying. It’s the True Demon’s ending. And it’s awesome.)

      • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

        Could you elaborate it sir???

        • Testsubject909

          I think I sort of did across the entire line of comments here.

          edit: Actually I’m confused. What part do you want me to elaborate on?

  • http://twitter.com/asagami_ k_zero

    I always thought Strange Journey is the fourth (or fifth… SMT if) Shin Megami Tensei. So this game would be the fifth game. It is like Persona 3, may have the number three in the title, but it is the fourth game in Persona saga (Persona, Persona 2 Tsumi, Persona 2 Batsu) Anyway, if is a tale about ideals (Law/Chaos, Reasons…) and war of Louise Cypher with God, for me always will be a main game Shin Megami Tensei.

    • Testsubject909

      Sixth due to If.

      Really I think the rule of thumb is. If the game doesn’t have a number on it, it just isn’t a numbered title.

  • Mago Iichi

    MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

  • Mago Iichi

    Now I really wished it would’ve been announced at E3 instead, announcing big surprises like this right before E3 makes me disappointed -_-

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      This probably won’t even be mentioned at E3. Atlus Japan make their announcements independent of any American events.

      • Mago Iichi

        Right, I forgot Atlus does that.

        • Testsubject909

          It’s in Japan buddy. TGS is where it’s at for them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1744412029 Rilo Dk

    I really wish they mention in this game the conclusion of SMT Nocturne ending and which route they take.

    • Testsubject909

      Probably the Neutral path, that’s typically the one that opens up to the next isn’t it? Hmm… well at least that’s how I felt it went from SMT 2 to SMT 3.

      I don’t remember if SMT 1 to SMT 2 was neutral or lawful.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1744412029 Rilo Dk

        i considered SMT 1 ending is neutral, based on SMT: Imagine storyline though i might be wrong.

        It will be funny if they suddenly take Yosuga as canon lol.

        • Testsubject909

          It really wouldn’t work. I think it really is going to be Neutral… But if they pull off a great surprise and it’s the sixth ending that’s canon… somehow, in some weird screwy way.

          That’d also be awesome… But it’d mean that Hitoshura ultimately lost that final battle in the end.

          edit: Or is at a stalemate.

  • KuroiKen

    Great news, seriously. Hope it’ll be as good as SMT/SMT2 were. I loved those games, and replay them from time to time even now.
    Putting it in my 3DS “ToBuy” list. Now it includes: Senran Kagura Burst(pre-ordered), Rune Factory 4(pre-ordered), Soul Hackers 3DS(pre-ordered), SMT4, Project X Zone and one already released game I missed.
    3DS is just bursting with games I want, heh. I’m also considering buying Smile Precure game for 3DS, since I love mahou shoujo, but it will depend on my budget.

  • SetzerGabbiani

    Ok.  I was one of those people who vehemently lobbied that Strange Journey was SMT IV.  I can admit when I was incorrect.  Interesting that they used the SMT name for a “side story”.  Strange Journey has been reduced to “…If” status. So since this is IV, I guess it takes place in Japan entirely.

    • Zeik56

       I still stand by it being “SMTIV”, in spirit. It may not officially be labeled that, but it’s as much as true SMT game as any of them. Much moreso than “If…”

      • Testsubject909

        A spin-off game does not prevent it from having the same spirit and feel as the original series.

        I’ve often lobbied that, despite statements, that Strange Journey was definitely more of a spin-off then a continuation of the series, though in no way a bad thing, just that it left the doors open for a numbered continuation.

        And boy does it feel good to be right.

        • Zeik56

          In some cases that may be true, but within the MegaTen franchise that implies something very different. MegaTen spin-offs are explicit attempts to mix-up the SMT formula and do something different. Strange Journey on the other hand was specifically designed to return to the traditional SMT formula. (For the most part.) In many ways SJ was more of a true SMT game than even Nocturne was.

          It doesn’t really matter if it is or isn’t a “spin-off”, but I don’t want people writing it off as “just” a spin-off. It’s an SMT game through and through, with or without a number in the title.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      http://gonintendo.com/?p=98913

      I think most considered it IV before this announcement.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=749504598 Shane Guidaboni

    Life is good. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Groce/100000039461956 Alexander Groce

    Awesome a new SMT

  • leadintea

    Yes! After all these years!!! I am so excited for this!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dsav-Sav/1070454715 Dsav Sav

    oh great….the next game after nocturne and it’s gracing the 3ds ?

    wow atlus must be on some sort of record here….making love to the 3ds and completey abandoning home consoles.

    i mean hell atleast make it for the fucking vita or something….the far more capable portable.

    keep going atlus….soon all the real smt fans will abandon you too.

    i pretty much have already with all of this 3ds bullshit.

    • haqua

       Most of the 3DS hate comes from people without a 3DS!
      Gee, I wonder if…?

    • WilliamJasper

      You’re about to find yourself banned soon. People really should look at the comments below before posting sometimes….

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Banned.

      • Farid Belkacemi

        Another demon was killed by ishaan… Seems like he REALLY doesn’t want to negotiate today ! :p Want to know what happens next ? Buy SMT IV, coming this year (I hope) on 3DS :D

      • SetzerGabbiani

        The ban-hammer is fierce and swift tonight.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

        If said it this way maybe he wouldn’t equip the ban hammer.
        “Cool SMT IV but I wish the they have a PSVita port also maybe they will some time on….”
        I have my 3DS so Pls don’t ban me >_<

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Viet-Nguyen/100000070536507 Richard Viet Nguyen

    Well, I would’ve preferred a console edition, but ah well. Just gonna be a couple of years before I get a 3DS and be able to get myself some more Shin Megami Action. Have fun without me fellas.

  • haqua

    While I am a bit surprised that it’s not on a home console like I assumed it would have been, that’s fine! I play handhelds most of the time anyway, so I guess my introduction to SMT will have to start there!

    Anyway, the picture already has my interest. Two people looking out onto some old city… Hm ~

    • Testsubject909

      You could grab Strange Journey.

      I think I still have a password or two for some good starting demons.

    • AJ

       Yeah, you should get Strange Journey. It’s amazing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

    I’m not sure if I’ll get banned by saying this but I’m going to say it anyway. I don’t know why those banned people wish this game on console but for me I want it on console because I can play it longer, I can play it 10 hours straight but on the handheld or 3DS to be specific, I can only play for 3 hours and then recharge the battery for another 3 hours or so and play it again, there is a accessory however that can prolonged the battery by a few hour called Power Grip or something but why do you need to buy it when you can play like that for free in console?

    “But on handheld you can play on the go, pause the game without worrying losing your progress.” For me, I rarely go outside of my house except work and some random stuff like shopping. I never play a handheld outside of my house, why I buy a handheld? Because of the game that is only on the system. So that’s not really beneficial to me.

    And with console you can play on a bigger screen and stuff.

    That’s my reason of why I wanted this game on console be it WiiU, 360 or PS3.

    But I do know even if I wish it won’t happen because it’s already set. I just wanted to state my opinion. And I’m definitely buying this game when it’s released by Atlus USA.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=512740433 Zubi Khan

      I agree with you for the most part, why would you get banned for this though lol

      • Testsubject909

        Keep scrolling down?

    • Testsubject909

      More memory capacity and greater resource available for the game to run higher degree graphics, this itself doesn’t mean greater graphical quality but it can mean greater graphical detailing which does serve it’s purpose in making vibrant designs. If shortcuts are applied, more can be made of it, moreso then on handheld.

      Games on a console also naturally feel larger by nature and, again, due to more resource and memory capacity, means you can stuff more into the game as well, as for the controller there’s typically more buttons or if we’re talking about the Wii, I’d say that the motion control sort of plays off the touch screen control, which to me still means that ultimately the home console works far better.

      On the go gaming is fun and whatnot but often time I find myself having to pause quite often when gaming outside, there are instances of taking a bus, taking a car ride or just being outside of the house with nothing to do for an extended period of time, but it tends to be roughly 10 minutes to an hour in length, two hours if it’s a car ride to a different city (and one instance of 29 hour bus ride to the US to visit someone, but that’s a story I’ll reserve for the Open Thread Message Board one day.)

      Whereas gaming at home just happens to be a bit more comfortable. A larger screen is easier on the eyes to me, and with wireless controllers, people can’t really argue much about things like comfort, hell I’d find a home console far more comfortable.

      It just feels like a greater win when a game is on a home console… But unfortunately there’s no denying that being a handheld, there’s lowered cost, the game will cost less, with the strength of the current handhelds (3DS and Vita) there can be some impressive graphical quality here of all sorts and the memory capacity is relatively abundant (4GB minimum on either the 3DS or Vita if I remember correctly).

      And with a lower production cost, it also means greater chance for taking risks which means gaming innovation, but being on said handhelds also provides a risk not present on the home consoles. The poor implementation of gimmicks or forced implementations of such gimmicks.

      • Exkaiser

        Consoles are just as prone to poorly-implemented gimmicks as the 3DS and Vita are. Where there are touch screens and motion sensors on one group, there are voice sensors and motion sensors on the other.

        To counter your point about having to pause a lot while outside, I’d say this is a definite plus for handhelds for me- that is, all modern handhelds are capable of pausing at any time for any length of time without relying on the capricious nature of games’ saving systems. I find myself getting interrupted just as often in the house as anywhere else- and if I get dragged out of the house for some reason while playing a console game, well, if I’m nowhere near a save point I guess the game’s going to have to enjoy running for several hours while I’m out of the house. Just like in the good ol’ days, when we didn’t have fancy things like “saving” or “memory cards” or even “battery saves.” Wait, no, leaving consoles on unattended like that is barbaric. I, for one, welcome this fancy-dancy “standby mode.”

        Also handheld games can be used in the bathroom. Just sayin’. But seriously, even with wireless controllers, consoles are still stuck to one TV in one room. Unless I want to unplug it and drag it out somewhere else, my PS2 is in my bedroom and it can’t be played in the living room. Or on the stairs. Or in the kitchen while I cook dinner.

        And if it was in the living room, then I couldn’t play it in bed!

        I don’t really think either format is inherently superior, but for me personally, handhelds have basically completely dominated my gaming life. But, you know, to each his own, yeah? I can see why people like consoles. I spent my childhood glued to them. I just don’t really think it’s necessary for people to be so divided about them. I’m quite happy SMT IV is hitting a portable, but I wouldn’t be complaining if it were hitting consoles, either.

        oh, uh, guess my comment got kind of out of hand and went on a huge tangent (originally meant to post one sentence…). Sorry about that!

        • Testsubject909

          I’m in a comfortable 50/50.

          It’s always how it is with me and I find it quite entertaining. I love home console gaming and portable gaming just about equally. And I love PC gaming just about as much as I do console gaming. And I’m highly adaptable using any controller and whatnot.

          This leads me to a sort of neutral viewpoint at times and quite often I take a step back to look at things from an observer’s viewpoint with insight on all subjects… And allow me to go a bit off subject.I would smack every last idiot that rants about PC Master Race if I could. Man those guys don’t know what they’re missing out on due to their superiority complex… But back on topic.

          On the whole portable or not. As fun as it is to be on a portable system, there’s a quality inherent to a settled home console that’s akin to the difference between watching a movie at home on a 24 inch TV, or watching a movie in a cinema theater.

          It’s a different experience. Both with their ups and downs, but one that’s clearly larger, more bombastic and naturally set and more capable of drawing you in, in large thanks due to it’s larger screen and, odds are, better audio.

          Neither though should, as you say, be inferior to the other. They’re simply different with their own sets of ups and downs.

          But I can’t deny. I’d certainly love more home console games. Plus there’s no denying it’s a part of what I feel most natural what with how I was raised, having only really picked up on portable gaming around the GBA days, despite having played some GB games… and no GBC for some reason, kind of skipped the color phase.

          edit: And yes, I know about the gimmicks of the PS Move or the 360 Kinect. But considering this is SMT we’re talking about here. There’s an extremely unlikeliness that they would’ve implemented such features, whereas for handheld portables, it’s much more likely. After all, it’s not just an option, it’s a feature of the console they’re going to be building for and that alters the playing field itself, plus they might be getting encouraged to push to show some of the features present and, again, you should know, I’m no big fan of stereoscopic 3D. I view it as a relatively low quality visual trick that serves very little and due to the limited field of vision for the trick to be optimal on the 3DS and various other troubles about it, I’m far more into the idea of utilizing a Gravity Rush style 3D optical illusion via sixasix gyro sensor to alter the visual image and turn it into a window rather than a pop up book.

          But I digress, again.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

            TL;DR BATTLE IS ON!!!!

    • Herok ♞

      You know if you are playing at home you can just leave the system on the charger so it doesn’t need to be recharged.

      • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

        But it will harm the system as far as I know.

        • Herok ♞

           It doesn’t I have done it 1000′s of times on my 3ds, vita,psp,dsi/dslite, and GBAsp and all of them work fine afterward with no internal system problems.

          • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

            @google-8eef0248a2f31f1edb91615994bd714b:disqus @Nyandroid:disqus
            Better safe than sorry >.<
            I'm too scared to do so.

          • Exkaiser

            What are you scared of? Even the system manual states that it’s okay to play while charging. I’ve been doing it since the GBC, and that didn’t even come with a rechargeable battery on its own.

            The only “problem” is leaving it plugged in for long periods of time when at full charge, which will diminish the maximum battery capacity over time (like, over long periods of time). The easy and very obvious solution is to simply unplug it once it reaches max charge and continue playing. You can very easily play a portable system all day this way with minimal effort. You don’t even have to get out of bed, if you so choose!

          • Suicunesol

            Play to your heart’s desire. That’s what your $170 system is for.

            Just unplug the charger when the battery is full and you’re not playing.

          • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

             Worry not. Even Nintendo says in the 3DS’s manual that you can (and should) leave your 3DS on the charge craddle when you’re not playing, so you can always have your system ready to go. So that means you can play it while or the charger, it won’t ruin the battery. Long goes the time when that would indeed ruin your battery life ;) No more!

            Also, I recommend you start plugging in your earphones, reduce the system’s brightness (to a level that’s still confortable) and don’t crank the 3d effect all the way up. This alone will boost up the battery life by two hours or so.

        • Nyandroid

          I do it all the time with my systems. Hasn’t bothered them at all.

    • TheCynicalReaper

       It’s just a matter of budget. Even on the newer handhelds, making a handheld game is cheaper than a console game. Console games have higher expectations visually, and those visuals cost mega bucks. Making SMT IV on a console would be difficult since most would want it to look like Catherine, and even then it wouldn’t sell as well as a Persona title since few know much about the SMT series aside from the name “Persona” these days.

      As long as it doesn’t have the horrible first-person perspective on it’s dungeon crawling I’ll be interested.

    • http://simplephilistine.wordpress.com/ Arla

       Is that hard to lay on your bed or couch and play with a charger connected? Also 3hrs is an exaggeration.

      • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

        Charger connected will harm the system as far as I know. Nah, I play my handheld or reading comic book like that all the time. Based on my experience playing Zelda Ocarina of Time on 3DS with 3D on, its 3 hours more or less.

        • Exkaiser

          I get far more than three hours out of my 3DS.

        • http://simplephilistine.wordpress.com/ Arla

           “Charger connected will harm the system as far as I know.”

          Uh huh….

          • Testsubject909

            That’s actually not that uncommon a thought, what with some of the weird properties of the older batteries and their fluctuating lifespan and charge capabilities.

        • mirumu

          Older types of batteries could degrade if left connected to the charger, and issues like “memory effect” mattered. Modern Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer batteries however last longer when kept fully charged, and leaving them on the charger isn’t a problem. With these types of batteries the worst thing you can do is drain them flat, or leave them uncharged or at a lower charge for any period of time.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      It basically comes down to Japan being a portable games market. Portables are the dominant systems for playing games on, and they’re cheaper and easier to develop for. It’s a win-win situation for Japanese developers, which is why you see so many major portable titles announced out of Japan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

        Sir you know about japan’s game biz….
        I give you the bro-fist…..
        As long as Ishaan’s speak I knew it’s sensible thank you!!!! :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      I will give a truth Japanese doesn’t care about foreigners that is all.
      And I HATE IT!!!!!!!!
      But the heck I have my 3DS……….

    • boundries_san

      U won’t get ban here as at least u provide reason here and i understand ur thought here as consoles does sounds better but portable itself has the merits.

      Well i am kinda happy that at least u provide a proper reason here rather than just shouting this game sucks for coming to one machine.^^

  • SolidusSnake

    Whoa, didn’t see that coming.

    Can’t wait to make YHVH eat a knuckle sandwich in 3D!

    • Testsubject909

      You’d imagine the almighty would get tired of all this rebellion and getting slapped around and just choose to do something like erase the knowledge of his existence from all of… existence.. I mean, it should technically be in his powers to do so, right? And it’s not as if he’d be crucial for people to attain enlightenment or a higher degree of spirituality.

      Soooo… If you ask me, I’m in Lucifer’s army. At least that guy makes sense to me.

      • HeatPhoenix

        But if he removes the thoughts of his existence, he’ll stop existing.

        • Testsubject909

          This would indicate a codependent nature and not something that should be inherent in an allmighty omnipotent being, and would thus make him more of a sort of symbiote or parasite that relies upon a continued sustenance that comes from humanity as a whole to remain alive and well, which in turn would question the idea that it would be a god.

          So, yeah, that only further reinforces me wanting to join Lucifer’s army.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

        I am siding with “neutrality” on this one…. Unless neutrality is more worse….

        • Testsubject909

          Neutrality is exactly what it is. Live and let die. It’s our world as it is, with all it’s ups and downs.

      • boundries_san

        Chaos is always better.^^

        • Testsubject909

          For Freedom!

          And for some datass of Catherine who’s probably a way better fun time then Katherine! For Freedom!

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      SMT 1, 2 and 3 nocturne has the Giant Face Final boss(I exclude Luci cus it’s on the secret ending)………
      I wish that SMT 4 has it….
      You know people why I can’t call SJ a 4 cuz there is no GIANT FACE BOSS

      • cj_iwakura

        Persona 4 had… uh, a giant eye! By the by, Luci is considered the canon ending, and the true final boss.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

    Isn’t Strange Journey SMT 4?

    Wonder how the gameplay will be? Classic style or Nocturne? 

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      This has been discuss towards the bottom.

      http://gonintendo.com/?p=98913

      Think of it like this, Strange Journey was “technically” SMT IV, but they decided not to call that (setting not in Japan). So it was “technically SMT IV… until BAM, this announcement. Now Strange Journey isn’t really SMT IV anymore, but I still think of it on the same level of a main installment of the series.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

        Thk brp. For doing multiple explanation across the comments.

      • leadintea

         It IS on the same level as the main installments, just as if… was. The games go in this order:

        SMT I -> SMT II -> SMT if… -> SMT III -> SMT SJ -> SMT IV

  • https://twitter.com/gatotsu911 Project 2501

    Wait – I thought Strange Journey was SMT4? Ah, whatever. No sane person can keep track of every Megami Tensei spinoff anyway.

    On topic, I hope the game has a similar style and setting to Strange Journey. I kind of liked the sci-fi take on the series, and I particularly liked the grand scale of the story and setting (as opposed to the usual teenagers-in-Tokyo setup).

    • Exkaiser

      No sane person can keep track of every Megami Tensei spinoff anyway.
      Call me insane, then. My Megaten Fu is quite strong.

      • https://twitter.com/gatotsu911 Project 2501

        I know your type, boy, and you’re MAD TO THE CORE

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=512740433 Zubi Khan

    I hope this has decent looking graphics, I don’t mind old school sprite based stuff but come on..

  • Testsubject909

    So… I remember a lot of fans arguing that Strange Journey was SMT 4 while I was stating that lacking a number, it might be unofficially considered as such but leaves space for an SMT 4, numbered as such…

    It’s nice to see that they’re making SMT 4 and… wait a minute… It’s not on a home console?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY 

    edit: On a side note. I will buy this game. I’ve waited a bit too long to be picky after all and I quite enjoyed Strange Journey. Though I hope I’ll be able to scrounge up the money for when it comes out… That and I’m wondering about news for Ace Attorney x Professor Layton.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      That’s one funny video, but watch out, people are being banned!!!

  • Simon

    over at kotaku. they got the same picture but with the VITA logo. So its on VITA as well?

    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17o6v49qgytptjpg/original.jpg

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      That’s a fake scan.

      • Simon

        Dang, sucks then. Would have been excited if it was on VITA too

      • Suicunesol

         How can you tell?

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          Because Sinobi would have said so if Vita was included in the announcement. He has access to the mag. Other reports would have surfaced by now as well, as more and more people get their hands on it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000845705140 アリャム くん

       I came back here from Kotaku to re-check too. x_x

  • Ethan Russell

    so strange journey wasnt IV after all

  • Hinataharem

    Yay! Now does anyone think it will be in sprites or 3D like Nocturne?

    • mirumu

      Could be either, although my money would be on it being full 3D. Atlus have had some time to learn the 3DS innards well by now so I anticipate they’ll want to show off what they can do. 

  • ndjn3979

    Wow Atlus, disappointing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      on what???

      • ndjn3979

        Taking a console tradition down to a handheld experience. With handheld games often being less substantial of an experience than a console counterpart, I always wanted the next numbered entry in SMT to be on a console.

        • http://twitter.com/Laith_Rem Laith Rem

          I’ll have to disagree with that. Handheld games can be as substantial as Console ones. See all the SMT games that have been released, the sequels that are coming from console games to handheld gaming and all the ports that come from console to handheld.

    • Brandonmkii

      A new SMT game is never a disappointment.

  • kupomogli

    Strange Journey wasn’t SMT4, huh?  Booyah!

  • superdry

    Damn you regionlocked 3DS!  I’ll have to buy a US 3DS at some point when this game is released (and Soul Hackers!) in the US.

    Speaking about the long wait for SMT IV, anyone else wanting Atlus to do another Majin Tensei game? I’m surprised they didn’t revive that series when the DS was getting tons of strategy games back in the day.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594742092 Robert M Fenner

       Devil Survivor fills that gap rather nicely, don’t you think?

      Majin Tensei had incredible music and battle graphics but was a bit too light on plot for my liking. 2 had the opposite problem, plot was improved but graphics and sound took a hit. Ronde made me unintentionally laugh at every cutscene, but was pretty unplayable.

      • superdry

        True, Devil Survivor does fit the gap nicely. 

    • boundries_san

      Ohh Majin Tensei is also quite fun.^^ They should release some Majin tensei to attract younger fans here.^^

  • SeventhEvening

    I told you SJ wasn’t SMTIV. 
    SJ felt like SMT had babies with Etrian Odyssey. I’m looking forward to details on IV

    • AJ

       I thought Atlus officially announced Strange Journey was SMT IV. And I thought that Etrian Odyssey was borne out of a tech demo for Strange Journey/SMT IV.

      All in all, I am very confused. C’est la vie.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      We have the some thought bro!!!!

    • cj_iwakura

      Uh, you do realize Etrian Odyssey was more of an homage to old school dungeon crawlers just set in a forest, right? Anywho, I enjoyed SJ, but it felt more like a successor to SMT1&2. It was a great game, but it didn’t have the impact a core game had. Not enough -happened-. 

      From the concept art of IV, I think this is the real deal.

  • epy

    Its been long enough. Feels like ages since I played SMT III.

    By the way, is this how Siliconera is going to be from now on? With people acting all nice and apologetic because they fear the ban hammer? This a nice community full of nice people, too bad everyone is going to have to act it now.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      I really don’t think it’s unreasonable in the least to ask people not to complain about what system games are on. This isn’t the place for all that console wars garbage. If a system has the games you want, buy it. If you can’t or won’t, well, not having a couple of those games won’t kill you. That’s how we tend to see it. No point ruining other people’s fun, you know?

      • mirumu

        I do think it’s unreasonable to permanently ban someone with no warnings. Temporary bans, well that’s another matter. I know warnings often don’t work, but it’s about fairness and no one could argue you weren’t being fair if you gave a warning first. If they did it again it’s obviously their own fault.

        It’s also easy for people like me (and you I assume) who have access to every platform to be easy going about what systems a game releases on. I can however understand younger posters who only have one console being a bit more upset when they miss out on a game. I’m not meaning to make excuses for them, a rule is a rule, but the reaction is a fairly human one.

        • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

          I see your point, but the thing is, we have a site to run and all of what you suggested is a time-consuming process. We actually did try it for a little while, but it just takes way too long to keep warning each and every single person. And furthermore, we’ve found that people love to take advantage of our niceness. 

          The only rule Siliconera really has is that we don’t want people complaining about consoles. The only other “rule” is to be polite. I really don’t think that’s asking for too much. Also, not all of our staff have access to every system. For the systems we don’t have access to, well, you just let it go. That’s life.

          I understand this treatment may come off as harsh, but we don’t have a choice. We would rather have a nice, small community than a large but inflammable community.

          update: Ah, I should add, though, that I’m looking into getting more people from within the community to help out as moderators. Perhaps they’ll be able to be more lenient since they won’t have to shoulder the responsibility of updating the site simultaneously.

          • Testsubject909

            Risky endeavor there. Power corrupts plus whoever you’d get would need to have a professional mindset separate from his or her personal mindset so to not let personal feelings and opinions cloud them, ergo back to power corrupts. That said though, they’d also need to be able to do their job, meaning they’d need to not be overly lenient, though at the least fair.

            How do you guys figure you’ll be doing the screening process and whatnot to gain said new mods anyhow?

          • mirumu

            I’ve seen that sort of users-as-mods thing cause trouble on other sites too. As you say, power corrupts. As long as someone mods the mods though maybe it could work.

            Always seemed to me that someone who actually wants to be a mod is probably the wrong person for the job.

          • Testsubject909

            I remember I was appointed as an admin by an online friend for an adult only forum (it might explain to some of you exactly why I talk the way I do every now and again and why I feel so liberal about what I talk) and we had some very simple rules (as you can imagine of any regular adult site, nothing overtly disturbing was permitted, not really going to go into details here).

            Being a mod or an admin, an active one, is a lot of work pending the activity of the people found therein. And appointing mods to help you is a bit of a pain too since then you’ve got dual duty to check in on the people yourself on top of your subordinates to ensure that they’re doing their job right and not just outright abusing things like wrongfully banning someone, that can get messy and annoying.

          • malek86

            @mirumu:disqus I know what you mean. But then again, those who don’t want to be mods will probably refuse. I was appointed mod for a big forum once (didn’t ask for it, they just proposed me the idea because they thought I was a good user). After a while I resigned, because it just wasn’t worth the trouble.

          • http://twitter.com/RaiuLyn Raiu

            Some of the people in this community are good choices… But these people might have jobs and things that will keep them away from surveying the site… Also the chosen mods has to be logical and somewhat in between lenient and strict so that they don’t get taken advantage and/or brushed off as unfair…
            I imagine Ishaan will have a hard time choosing…

            What I would suggest for the screening process is to prepare a test for the potential mods….

          • Jirin

            Can we get a little more clarification on what constitutes console wars?  Is it simply stating a preference for one console over another, or does it have to be flaming this console?

            Also if you’re going to institute a rule that can result in perma-bans, it’d be nice to display it more prominently on the main site.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            Yeah, we’re going to work on that. The problem with having a separate section for “rules” is that no one would access that part of the site simply to read them. This is why we reiterate the rules as often as possible, right here in the comments themselves, by pointing them out.

            Really, the complaining about consoles is the only rule we have. You’re allowed to voice disappointment that something is on a system you don’t own, but it’s important how you word it. If it comes off as derogatory or insulting, that’s a ban. If it’s a more well thought out comment with just a line or something about how you’re unhappy with the choice of consoles, that’s totally fine.

            It’s just a question of discouraging too many people from complaining about the system, rather than discussing the games themselves. We’ve found that, unfortunately, it’s waaaay to easy for people to jump on the “XX system sucks” bandwagon following just one or two comments along those lines.

      • http://twitter.com/sylar1985 Sylar100

        Or people complain about it being on a different system because they don’t have that system?

        If someone has a Vita rather then a 3DS of course they’re gonna want the game to be on the vita. Same if the game were on the Vita and they only had a 3DS.

        Also the rules don’t seem to be clearly shown at all. Is there a rule specifically stating that you can’t comment about a console a game is coming out on? Banning seems really overboard, especially for one comment mentioning the game being on a different console.

        Though more on topic, i liked Strange Journey, even though i never beat it since near the end i had to grind. Though i am excited for a new SMT game.

        • Hraesvelgr

          Making a comment that says “Why isn’t this on Vita/PS3/whatever? No buy.” doesn’t add anything, though, and usually just fans flames.

          • HeatPhoenix

            So what? People are supposed to be allowed to express their opinion.

          • Luna Kazemaru

             Because calling one system sh** without any base is clearly a legit Opinion I love how people always love to throw the opinion card out there.

          • Hraesvelgr

            And others are allowed to ban them for making flame-inducing comments that add absolutely nothing. Two way road, chief.

            As has been said before, they weren’t being banned for it before and it continued incessantly. If banning is the only way to get rid of it, tough. It’s not like it’s sudden.

        • Jirin

          I think it’s more people get mad when a series they like is brought exclusively to a console they don’t have.  I sympathize with that argument, since a franchise is probably going to have a lot of the same fan base, so it’s kind of frustrating when a company sticks a game you’ve been waiting for on a console you don’t own. 

          But, it’s less what they said and more how they said it.

    • SirRichard

      I find that I can insinuate that someone is a whiny prick well enough without trouble, mate, it’s just a matter of wording it right in the right context. And hell, I don’t seem to get in trouble for throwing my hands into the air and screaming at God in every article about an Atlus game.

      I’m worried about the site crossing that line too, don’t get me wrong (had a nice debate about it recently here), but it’s not as restrictive as you’d think, you just need to put effort into negative points you want to air. Just note which sort of article you’re on, to help. For instance, are you on an Agarest/Neptunia article? Then we can’t save you, you’re already lost to the gnashing of teeth, we’ll tell your loved ones you tried to resist the horde.

    • boundries_san

      U don’t need to really act here lol. If u wanted to mention why this game is better on other consoles, give some reason here.

      Rather than some poster who just write that Atlus betray Sony here.

    • RupanIII

      I’ve left or avoided forums where mods go on power trips and most members spend all their time trying to suck up to their powerful overlords (coughgafcough). You can’t talk about certain topics, bans handed out for criticizing things, grudges, etc. It becomes less about a ‘nice community’ and more about ego bs. Also, snarky replies can be hilarious. If everyone’s acting all pretend-nice it saps the fun out of it, it can feel like this to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CLJkCunAG0

      On the other hand, I’ve also left or avoided forums where ‘anything goes,’ because you can’t actually discuss anything without it turning into an internet tough guy pissing contest, with everyone just flaming/insulting each other. Not very pleasant.

      I guess, in summary, it’s a balancing act, for sure. I used to think this site did a pretty good job with it, but lately it seems like bans/flagging/etc. have increased over minor things (for ex, below in this thread some dude whose name I’ve seen posting here quite a while said ‘I wish it was on a home console :(‘ or something completely tame like that and got banned. Like, really? That’s not exactly ‘i h8 u GHEY FUKIN 3DS!111′)

      Anywho, just my 2 gil.

      • Testsubject909

        You won’t see me stop being snarky and mean at times. If anything, do what the movie industry did when they had censors put unto them.

        Work around them in smart ways.

        edit: By nature, we fight against being constrained and imprisoned, like any animal out there, we value freedom. But at the same time we seek out safety and stability which is found in structure and laws.

        As such, this is an interesting parallel to the central conflict to be found within SMT. Law against Chaos with the central path open to all and every other variation found therein.

        • RupanIII

          Heh well that’s a sound enough suggestion, most witty comments I was defending aren’t really trying to be mean anyway. I was just considering two extremes- as you say, Law & Chaos. If you veer too far off that ‘central path’ you mention, then you start to see some downsides. Nicely done bringing it back to SMT lol Who knew forum drama could be philosophical?

          • Testsubject909

            That’s part of the nature of philosophy. There’s really no point where it doesn’t apply.

  • http://twitter.com/NintyBound Ninten

    Gee, so there goes everything thinking SJ was SMT4.

    But still. SMT4, people.

  • Julien_N

    Ha ah, so I was wrong about SJ being SMT4, which is a non-issue by the way, as the number doesn’t change the quality of the game. ^^
    I really didn’t expect a new mainline SMT, that’s amazing to see Atlus pushing the series like that. I still have plenty of MegaTen games to play and finish but I’ll pick this one without hesitation!

    (Oh, so many bans, that was unexpected as well…O_o)

    • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

      Thank god that SJ is not IV cuz when I played it it doesn’t have the SMT Vibes on it it’s more like playing Devil hackers and DDS………

  • leadintea

    Scary thought here, but even though I’m excited for this game, what if the game actually regresses and goes back to being a first person dungeon crawler like the older SMT games and its spinoffs? I’m hoping that the game actually takes more from Nocturne and makes it from a third person POV because first person dungeon crawlers tend to have pretty bad graphics. It’s also hard to actually look at the screen and notice the scenery since you always have to keep your eyes on the map.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ferofax Abdul Panganting

      Which is why some people don’t consider Nocturne as a main title, and why some people (even devs) think Strange Journey is a main title.

    • Reno Evangelista

      gb2persona.

      It’s not “regression” as you insultingly imply, it’s how the games have always played. SJ was right to bring that kind of thing back, because it’s part of the essence of the series and removing it makes it into an entirely different game.

    • malek86

      I see no reason to necessarily stick to a tried-and-true formula. And the old SMT style is, quite frankly, a bit too old today. Playing Soul Hackers made me realize that. I liked Nocturne because it was much more manageable, while still being harder than other RPGs today. And at least you don’t have to grind anymore.

      It doesn’t necessarily have to be third person, that’s just a stylistic choice. If they want to make it first person, so be it. But they should at least try to step up the gameplay a bit, it’s not the 90s anymore. P3 and P4 made giant steps in the right direction when it comes to gameplay, although I’m not a fan of their settings.

      I wonder if the low sales of EP PSP will convince them that people just aren’t that interested in the old style games anymore.

      • HeatPhoenix

        Also steps down in gameplay, where’s negotiation with demons? Right, there are no demons, only shadows.

        • malek86

          The negotiation system is probably not suited to how Persona works anyway. And the card system is not that bad.

          But if you want negotiations, fine, as long as they make them like Nocturne. Negotiations in Soul Hackers are freaking impossible.

          • Zeik56

            Negotiations were just a forced carry over from SMT that never really
            belonged in Persona. (Evidenced by the fact that even when it was there
            it was largely dumbed down and annoyingly implemented.) 

            S. Links are actually Persona’s evolution of the negotiation system, which works much better for the series. (There are still ways it can be improved of course.)

            Also Nocturne’s negotiation system kind of sucked. They took out almost all the interesting parts of negotiation and replaced it with simply throwing money or items at them until they join. I much prefer classic SMT/Strange Journey/Devil Summoner 2 style negotiation.

        • Jirin

          I’m not a huge fan of demon negotiation.  If they came up with a better way to do it, fine, but the way they do it is way too arbitrary and random to the point where it’s more like a chore.

      • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

         Beyond the Labyrinth did the ol’ “First person dungeon crawler” thingamajig. Sure sales weren’t stellar, but the game did not brandish the SMT name. I’m still betting the game will play out more like SJ and the original, pre SMT III games.

        I would prefer it to actually play more like Nocturne, but alas…I personally do not see that happening. We’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully by tomorrow, when the website goes live, we’ll see something more?

      • Zeik56

         Honestly I thought Strange Journey was a better game overall than Nocturne largely because it went back to the tried-and-true SMT formula. Granted it did make some very important improvements over the SNES games (those games as they are would probably never fly these days) as well as Nocturne, and there are definitely more improvements that can be made, but SMT is a series that’s meant to be more traditional.

        Games like Persona and Devil Summoner got radical overhauls specifically because they wanted to give them their own identity separate from SMT. I don’t think doing the same to SMT is the right way to go. Any changes that are made should simply mesh with the series without drastically changing it as a whole. (Like Nocturne’s Press-Turn system for example.)

  • Ooh Bee

    Finally something OTHER than Persona 4 to look forward to. If it’s anything like Strange Journey or Nocturne, sign me the hell up.

  • Roberto Armando Iraheta

    This is awesome! So glad I made the right choice in picking the 3DS. Atlus is so money right now!

  • http://twitter.com/NintyBound Ninten

    The art has this SMT1-2/or heck, even MT2/ vibe. And if it’s in first person view, then it’s basically GOTY for me.

  • HeatPhoenix

    Hoping for 3rd person a la Nocturne, if not SJ/I/II will do fine with some good 3D animations! Screw Persona, we got SMT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Chrome.Cell Bernard Yanga

    Another pls let be like  nocturne(press turn) or like SMT 1 or 2 gamplay(I mean is that you can have 5 player on battle) pls Lord plsssssssss…………

    • http://twitter.com/NintyBound Ninten

      Actually, you can have 6 party members in SMT1-2-If. Besides the Hero and Heroine, you can have 4 demons out.

      But yeah, I would love to see SMT4 in the style of 1-2-If-SJ

  • http://myanimelist.net/profile/Kuronoa Kuronoa

    SMT is very multiplatform, it was on Nintendo, SEGA and Sony platforms.

    EDIT: Is quoting going crazy here? This was a response to the dood who said they betrayed Sony.

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

       lol, PIME TARADOX!!! I’m guessing the comments section is getting overloaded, which leads to stuff like this happening. Your best bet here would be to simply name the user you’re quoting on your commenting, so that he/she knows you’re replying to him/her ;)

  • Jirin

    I would have preferred an SMT game that had the big beautiful immersive environments of Nocturne/DDS.

    Hopefully it at least has press turn and perma-stackable stat boosts.  If not, I’m far less interested.

    (What’s this perma-ban stuff other people are talking about? I apparently didn’t get the memo. Does mentioning a preference for one system count as complaining, or do you have to make explicitly negative comments about the console? Is saying “I would have preferred the game be on a console than a handheld” okay?)

    • SirRichard

      I think it’s explicitly “3DS sucks and I don’t want this game on it, I want it on this other platform because reasons“. It’s not so much mentioning your preferences as it is being whiny and not putting any effort beyond a basic whinge about the system they chose.

      In the run-up to E3, this sort of thing is going to happen a lot so the admins are discouraging it now, I imagine.

      • Jirin

        That’s pretty much the same thing Ishaan said responding to my other post.  So, good, that’s a good rule, ‘don’t be an ass about consoles’.

        3DS doesn’t suck at all.  I just happen to think that one of the major qualities of Nocturne and DDS is the immersiveness of the graphics, and a handheld isn’t going to match those standards.

        • Zeik56

           Why not? The current gen handhelds are at least on the level of the PS2 now. Nocturne and DDS didn’t have as “big beautiful immersive environments” as you seem to think, at least from a technical standpoint. (I’d argue from an artistic standpoint to an extent as well, but I digress.)

          It really not that improbable for them to make a “Nocturne-styled” SMT with 3D exploration. Now will that happen? I don’t know, they may decide they want they prefer the series to continue as a first person dungeon crawler, but that won’t be because they have no other options.

          • mirumu

            The 400 × 240 resolution of the 3DS is still quite a bit lower than what the PS2 was capable of. I like my 3DS, but it does look extremely blocky at times.

          • Jirin

            Nocturne’s graphics didn’t work because they were technically advanced, they worked because of the textures, aesthetics and the atmosphere.  All these light flows moving in every direction, the ruined, warped cityscape.  Nothing felt like playing Nocturne.

            3DS’s graphics are definitely a huge advancement over previous handhelds, but it’s still a smaller resolution, and a smaller arc of your field of vision.  So, I at least hope they try to go for something like those atmospheres, with full 3d story scenes rather than the Tales select-skit style story scenes of Strange Journey and Devil Survivor.

            One thing I can’t stand in RPGs is when they do their story scenes with huge 2d cutouts of the characters in the center of the screen like in Fire Emblem games instead of having the characters walk around in the environments while talking.

            Trails In The Sky proves it’s possible to have that kind of immersiveness on a small screen, I just hope that’s what SMTIV aims for.

  • http://myanimelist.net/profile/Kuronoa Kuronoa

    Two SMT games to look forward to!  I’m so happy right now.

  • amagidyne

    Hoping for press turn and interesting dungeons. Whether it’s first- or third-person is kind of the same for me as long as the battles are fun and you’re not just skulking through a warehouse. A Nocturne-style aesthetic and soundtrack would be a big plus too (so many tasty riffs).

  • http://iron2000.blogspot.com/ iron2000

    So SMT will become a Nintendo exclusive?
    While Persona a Sony exclusive?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

      Maybe they will port an Updated Rerelease in PSV in the future……

      • http://iron2000.blogspot.com/ iron2000

        Perhaps after a updated rerelease on a Nintendo device first :P
        If it becomes as hot as P3 and P4.

        If so then it feels as if they rushed it though since they are going to rerelease it updated.
        Anyway, thinking too far ahead as the game is just announced :P

  • Victoria [Rokuso3]

    Great news!! ^o^, too bad Europe didn’t get Strange Journey and 3DS is region-locked. But I really hope this comes here. Please! That would be my perfect reason to buy a 3DS :D

    • http://Gematsu.com/ Bruno Silva

       In Ghostlight we trust! I really believe we’ll end up getting this eventually ;)

  • Joseph Santee

    Shin. Megami. Tensei. Four. I am so farking excited right now.

  • TheBlackKnight3

    Honestly any kind of SMT game would be appreciated. I’ve loved every one I’ve played, even after getting my ass handed to me in Devil Survivor and getting insta-cursed in the main series or Persona. Looking forward to Devil Summoner if it comes here, this, and Persona 4 remake!

  • boundries_san

    THis whole banfest seems really cool especially when they happen on SMT thread here lol.^^

    Ishaan as Metatron is “destroying” the “devil”(Ban victim.) that wanted chaos/freedom in this thread lol.

    While some commenter just choose to hide(Like me.^^) and choose neutrality or even follow Ishron order.^^

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Ng/100000854638739 Dylan Ng

      You really can’t spell “slaughter” with “laughter”….

      Yeah, in this case Law and Chaos are too much, I choose NEUTRALITY!! *Reset the world*

  • gomas

    Hope they stick with “secret journey`s” aesthetics rather than that kiddie/girlie anime aesthetic that seems to be the trend in all recent S.M.T/Persona.

  • Sam Park

    i guess this means Demi-Fiend Didn’t Take the True Demon Ending at the End of SMTIII Nocturne 

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