Namco Hope To Sell 650,000 Copies Of Tales of Xillia 2

By Ishaan . November 5, 2012 . 5:00pm

Namco Bandai have released their sales forecasts for a few of their recent and upcoming major videogame releases. Namco hope to achieve these targets by the end of their financial year, which ends on March 31st, 2013. Here’s the list:


(PS3) Tales of Xillia 2 – 650,000

(360/PS3/Wii U) Tekken Tag Tournament 2 – 1.7 million

(PS3) The 2nd Super Robot Taisen OG – 350,000

(360/PS3/Wii/Wii U/3DS/DS) Ben 10 Omniverse – 400,000

(3DS) Run for Money Tousouchuu – 300,000


Tales of Xillia 2 was released in Japan last week. Run for Money Tousouchuu has been out in Japan for a few months now, and is currently at over 213,767 copies sold.


Meanwhile, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is available on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, and will be released on the Wii U worldwide later this month. Finally, The 2nd Super Robot Taisen OG will be released in Japan on November 29th.

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  • How much did Xillia 1 sell? I don’t think it was much more than 650k and considering these FFX-2 like sequels aren’t selling as much as the main games I kinda doubt it’ll reach the same amount.

    Never heard of Run for Money so I can’t say anything about that one, as for SRW I guess that’s a reasonable expectation, but again OG games don’t sell as much as the crossover SRW(“main”) games do, on the other hand it being the first HD game might get more people interested in it.

    • refrain

      Tales of Xillia sold about 740.000 units about 2 months after launched. I don’t know how much It sold after that.

      • ReidHershel

        It reached over a million :)

        • That’s cool, in that case it should be possible to reach that number.

          • He’s wrong, it hasn’t reached a million.

        • LightZero

          I don’t think it sold that much. 800K would be more feasible. Abyss and Destiny still has it beat over there. 

    • s07195

      B-but I’ve been commenting on how Run for Money was staying on the charts all this time! All my comments have been wasted! :(

      • Don’t worry, I noticed them!

  • Wow that’s a lot they want to sell. I want to know if that is including the eventual US release. 

  • Spectacularity

    I think Super Robot Wars will do more than that. 

  • VenerableSage

    I can kind of understand the SRW numbers. It’s an OG game and it’s on a console. We know how Japan loves portables more than consoles, so the lower numbers make sense. Let’s just hope that 350k is enough to turn a profit on the title. :/

    • ShinGundam

      Nah, even portable SRW can’t match PS2/PS1 era numbers.

    • Kibbitz

      I’m pretty sure that they’re not going to specify 350k as target sales if that wasn’t enough to turn a profit. The bigger question is whether it will actually get close to or exceed those numbers though.

  • Luis Camargo

    I already helped with one unit of ToX2. 

    Will help again if the US localization doesn’t take forever.

  • Genjo

    i believe the 650k is reachable goal i mean Tales of Xillia is very good game i also believe the first Xillia game did very well so i am guessing they think they can reach it from what they gotten from first game.

  • KyoyaHibari

    In compliance to those people who bought Graces F as a “stepping-stone” for Xillia to get localized, I believe I shall buy Xillia as a “stepping-stone” for Innocence/Hearts R, Vesperia PS3 and/or possibly Xillia 2. From the looks of it, Xillia 2 looks much improved from its overhyped predecessor, but it’s unfortunate to have this game as a sequel rather than a standalone game, seeing how it is probably what Bamco originally intended Xillia 1 to be.

    • Niyari

      I think Half Life 3 will be out before us PS3 users get Vesperia. :(

    • LightZero

      Vesperia PS3 is a lost cause since we already have Vesperia in English. Innocence R is most likely a lost cause too. Besides I don’t even know why anyone would rather get a 4 almost going on 5 years old port (Vesperia) over Xillia 2. Hell from what I spoiled I’m already more impress with Xillia 2. Finally another dark Tales like Abyss. Vesperia is a good game, but it’s doesn’t deserve the propping it gets IMO. 

      Anyway I’m rooting for Xillia 1 to do well. I want to play Hearts R and Xillia 2. 

      • KyoyaHibari

        Depends on how you look at it with Vesperia. I mean, the PS3 is still prominent at this time, so there is still purpose in releasing the game on PS3 no matter how old it is. On that note, everyone loves classic games, and while Vesperia can’t really be ported onto a next-next gen console seeing how there isn’t one yet, people would always be willing to have a quality game get localized despite the age. Not to mention Vesperia easily has one of the strongest ensembles of the series as well as THE best main protagonist of Tales and possibly of all RPGs. The combat, graphics, content and everything else was superb, which is why tons of people are still vying for the PS3 expanded port. In contrast, Graces had one of the WORST ensembles of recent memory, but was generally a solid entry in the franchise, I still believe Vesperia is better though(aside from Graces F being an improved Wii port). I find Innocence R has a pretty good chance seeing how the Vita is fairly new and Innocence R isn’t that old anyways. I still have faith in those games because I believe they stand a much better chance than Rebirth and Destiny DX which I also wish got localized but those are truly lost causes.

        • LightZero

          Ports of old games almost always sell worst than the original. One year ports never surpass the original release. A potential 5 years old port would do even worst. Not many people like to double dip and the Tales fanbase is already niche as it is. It wouldn’t be a wise business decision. If Vesperia PS3 flops then we can say good bye to anymore localize Tales. It’s miracle we even got Graces. Although it does seem like Namdai lessen their sales expectations. They are no longer expecting Symphonia’s numbers. 

          If Xillia 1 does decently well then Xillia 2 would be the better choice since its new. Not to mention based on what I spoiled Xillia 2 is a vastly superior game to Vesperia. I like Vesperia but the game is reaching Symphonia level of being overrated by fans. It’s not even all that. That aside Vesperia PS3 best chance is to probably be ported to whatever the 3DS’ successor turn out to be.

          Vesperia does have a strong cast but I also feel Graces have a good strong cast too. Eternia gets my vote for worst ensemble cast while Graces, Vesperia, and Legendia sits at the top of my list in this regard. I also find Graces to be better then again I’m more of a Team Destiny kind of guy. 
          Innocence R still has a shot, but I think Hearts R stand a better chance given that Baba wished for us to play it. I always found Hearts more impressive anyway so that would be cool with me. 

          • KyoyaHibari

            I apologize for clinging to this belief, but I think with Vesperia it could work if we take into account the contrast of how the game is ported in comparison with others.

            I’d imagine that if someone were more geared towards a particular company for consoles, a step-up port along the lines of the company wouldn’t be too beneficial, (i.g. Tales of Destiny 2 PS2 -> PSP) however, with Vesperia they are switching over to another company line to release it, so rather than an upgrade along the lines of the individual company, it becomes psuedo-multiplatform and can appeal to those who prefer Sony/Xbox/Nintendo over one of the other options. This would also be a less time consuming–and I assume less costly–game to translate than a brand new title seeing how all of the 360 content has already been translated. 

            That being said, it all depends on the individual when it comes to deciding on getting a port; I used to have a 360 along with Vesperia, so I’m already aware that Vesperia was a quality title, so it is certified to be a good purchase, and a lot of people I hear who have it for 360 would still buy the PS3 version if it came overseas, and those who haven’t played it are still aware of it’s acclaim because of the previous release doing well. Again, it rests on the individual opinions.

            As a matter of fact, Tales of Graces for Wii sold 113,000 copies in its first week while Graces F sold 200,000, so perhaps we might see something like that overseas.

            I’m surprised you like Graces’ ensemble though…I can’t stand them; they are really annoying and hardly undergo much character development aside from sorting out some of their angst. Pascal is the only saving grace (no pun intended) to the core cast while Richard–who is also a well rounded character–*SPOILER*can only really show his true colours during the Lineage and Legacies arc, seeing how he is the antagonist for the main game, and only part of the team for a few hours in the extra chapter. Malik has some good middle-age wisdom and maturity, but he lies just below GAR level due to his lack of passion and energy, which ultimately makes him seem a little dry. While I would argue that Symphonia is overrated as well, it has a well rounded group of likeable characters with cool designs, which is the reason I respect it.

    • Hidayat246

       u still believe Innocence/Heart R localisation?????????

  • Pfffft, Ben 10? God, that series got so bad after the original cartoon. 

  • idofgrahf

    Direct sequel rpg’s does not seem to sell as much as the original IE X and X-2 XIII and XIII-2, or even the tales series, tales of symphonia sold more than twice as much as dawn of the new world. So if xillia sold 650000 in Japan I doubt xillia 2 will get the same sales.

    • LightZero

      Tales of Destiny and Tales of Destiny 2 would be the better comparison for the Tales series. Destiny 2 is a main title just like Xillia 2. Symphonia 2 is a spin-off sequel. 

    • You can’t use the games you listed as comparisons.  FF X-2 was a completely different game than a normal FF, and when reviews and more came out, it repelled a lot of FF fans.  I tried it, found it interesting, but revisiting X’s world was kinda dull.

      XIII-2 didn’t sell as good because people were horribly let down by ff 13, and its a case of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

      Tales games though.  I havent played Symphonia 2, but I have heard the horror stories.  Other than that, every part 2 I have played in Tales of games have not been a let down.  It is hard to fail with a Tales of game because people expect a fairly generic story mixed with a lot of optional stuff and an excellent combat system.  Its what we like.  The story is important, but it doesn’t have to be the whole focus of the game like in a lot of rpg’s because Tales has solid game play to keep people entertained on top of the story.  Personally, I think the Tales of crew has it down to a science.  Only reason Symphonia 2 wasn’t a good tales, from what I can tell, and the 30 minutes of gameplay my friend showed me, is because it was made on the Wii, which for some reason all developers felt all games released on the Wii required  dumbing down immensely.  Yes, this is not true of all games, but the Wii’s library speaks for itself.

      •  I’ve played Symphonia 2. It’s not that bad of a game, but neither is it great. Funny enough, I’m probably the 2% that plays Tales games not just for its amazing gameplay but also for its stories, characters and the overall (optimistic but serious) tone. It’s a let down compared to the original, but on its own — it’s a pretty okay game.

        • Kibbitz

          I’m not a Tales fan, but I think you really underrate the actual % who care about the story, tone and characters.

          • Funny, because a lot of reviewers and people on the internet say that they all play Tales games for the gameplay as its stories are weak, cliche, blahblah.
            But yeah, bro, I hope it’s true, because even if the stories aren’t something revolutional, they do manage to present itself very good, so IMO they should deserve some respect/love.

          •  I don’t under-rate the story, a tales of game would fail without their stories.  The thing is, the story isn’t the be all end all.  Take Final Fantasy XIII for instance, that game over did the story so horribly, that people likened it to watching a movie with occasional game play.  They put in entirely too much story and try extending it further with over the top scenarios that confuse people.

            Then you get to tales of games.  Their stories aren’t earth shatteringly good, or extremely confusing.  They are simple, with easy to understand morals, and an easy to follow flow.  I personally have a favorite book series by David Eddings called the Belgariad.  I have read that series of 5 books about 12 times now, and I will do it again sometime in the near future.  Tales of games are like that to me, I may have seen the topics the story covers in so many other games, but I still enjoy it in a Tales of game.  Since the game isn’t make or break by the storyline, I can sit back and enjoy the story, enjoy the characters, and enjoy all the non story segments on top of the story.  The reason for this is no single part of a Tales of game is reliant entirely on one thing, be it story, gameplay, or optional stuff, to make the game successful.  To make everything work together, they dont stick 90 percent of their staff on story and 5 percent on gameplay and 5 percent on optional stuff.  It honestly feels like a 33/33/33 split, with 1 percent going somewhere.

            Final Fantasy XIII to me felt like a 90 story, 10 gameplay, and that is why we ended up with entirely long corridors for stages, no towns, no merchants, and so on and so on.  And that is why, as far as Final Fantasy’s go, it failed.

    • Tianyu Wei

      Xillia is in every way inferior to Xillia 2… Xillia is even worse than vesperia PS3/Graces F… Xillia 2 is a big apology to people who were disappointed with the rushd out Xilila.

      • KyoyaHibari

        Vesperia PS3 and Graces F weren’t bad though…

  • MrJechgo

    Seems reasonable, because Xillia 2 is more like Destiny 2 than Symphonia: Dawn of the New World: it’s a full-fledged sequel and not a spin-off. We’re not talking about something like FF13 and FF13-2… but like about Kingdom Hearts 1 and Kingdom Hearts 2 (to keep with Square Enix).

    Also, the more they way there, the more chance we’ll have to see Xillia 2 in English.

    • Elvick

      More has to do with how Xillia does outside of Japan. I mean, Namco already said that’s what will determine 2’s localization. I think it should do well though. It’s the first Tales on the PS3 that’s made specifically for it. And Graces ƒ established the series on PS3 already.

      I’m more concerned with getting Innocence R and Hearts R.

  • xavier axol

    i hope it goes well for them, i want more tales games.

  • Randy Marsh

    If the game sells well, maybe we’ll be seeing Milla Returns next. Just kidding, hope this game sales well. 

  • Seriously, I’d really like to see The 2nd Super Robot Taisen OG (or just SRW OG 2), but IF they manage to bring it abroad (please Namdai, I want my Super Robot fix), I hope the first chapter tells you what happened before and all, ’cause according to the internet the Original Generation GBA games were retconned by the PS2 version (and I guess Gaiden came after that).

    • Kibbitz

      IIRC, they have an archive mode where they detail the events of OGS and OGG.

      •  That’s awesome! I’m glad they’ve add that to the game in case the newcomers to the series (or at least to the Original Generation) want to play it.

    •  This, 100 times this. The only SRT games I have played were the GBA and DS titles that were localized for the US.

      •  I didn’t like the DS game. It was… totally not a Super Robot mechfest game compared to the GBA games. I never understood the gameplay of the DS game, but then again, 2nd Original Generation must come as that is the Super Robot game we all want to have.
        That, and Tech Romancer 2/remake/port — but Capcom is pretty much known for neglecting less popular series or series in general that aren’t named Street Fighter.

  • CirnoLakes

    You can bet I’ll help with that.

  • Demeanor

    Waiting for mine right now, only 649’999 to go!

    • 649’998. Mine should be arriving this week. Joke aside this is going to be tough : it would mean every single ToX owner purchases the sequel!

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