Ask Nintendo About Bayonetta 2 On Other Platforms, Say PlatinumGames

By Ishaan . February 8, 2013 . 4:00pm

Some have wondered if Bayonetta 2, which is currently exclusive to Wii U, will be made available for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Going by a tweet made by Bayonetta director, Hideki Kamiya, that doesn’t sound likely. On Twitter, Kamiya stated:

 

We are a developer. Nintendo are the ones kind enough to fund and publish our [The Wonderful 101] and [Bayonetta 2] projects. So if Nintendo says “We are publishing Bayo 2 on PS3/360.” Then it will happen. So please go ask them, not us.

 

Later, PlatinumGames’ J.P. Kellams—who translated Kamiya’s tweet into the English version above—was asked by a Twitter follower if that statement was meant to get people’s hopes up. He responded: “It’s supposed to mean what it says. If you want a PS3 version ask Nintendo. You might also want to ask for PS3 Zelda.”

 


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  • Solomon_Kano

    Good answer, Kamiya.

    I don’t know how anybody expected a game Nintendo is both funding AND publishing would jump ship. Nintendo only published Razor’s Edge and they did neither for Rayman Legends, so I’m not sure why anybody thought that those games’ situations might mean something for Bayo 2 or The Wonderful 101.

    • Wake

      Logic takes a hit when you really want something, that’s why.

    • http://www.facebook.com/eric.tharnish Eric Tharnish

      A lot of the questions that pop up on Kamiya’s blog are about what he thinks of console specifications and typical game news, and they’re kind of asinine to Kamiya since he makes games now… but those are the kind of discussion topics I remember having when talking during recess back in 1994, drooling over pictures of Chrono Trigger or something. There’s a logical answer for why Nintendo is doing stuff, but there’s also one for why people ask the silly things we do.

      Something to consider is also the fact that we’re living in a time when it’s more profitable to create games multiplatform. There’s still an element of competition/hardware progression in the eyes of most folks, but we’ve not really gotten past the whole binary “better than/more powerful than” view of consoles, and I think these requests show little bits of that. The fact that it’s almost expected that a game be available on all platforms. Though games have this sort of market push toward standardization in ways, there’s still nothing really pushing the conscious thoughts people have toward knowing this stuff.

      Really, what is Nintendo to some kid who’s never really known them beyond “those lame guys that make Mario” or whatever?

      Short version: If we’re to be critical, it does help to, if you don’t know why someone would think a certain way, try to find the answer even if it’s “They’re not really thinking about what they’re saying.”

      “How do I know?” etc. Critiquing 101.

  • Edzo

    “It’s supposed to mean what it says. If you want a PS3 version ask Nintendo. You might also want to ask for PS3 Zelda.” love everything about it. no problem for me if its wii u exclusive.

  • sd28

    okay seriously this port begging is really pathetic now

  • Spirit Macardi

    In other words, Kamiya is being a magnificent troll XD

    There’s nothing wrong at all with exclusives. They’re what sell the console in question and promote competition.

    Addendum:

    I love how every comment in this thread is getting down votes. Methinks some people are a tad butthurt x3

    • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

      There is a difference between a true exclusive title like Uncharted, Gears, or Zelda, and a Pseudo one like Bayonetta 2, Resident Evil Remake, Splinter Cell Conviction, …………etc

      If you make a multi-platform title, then it better stay that way, don’t go make the next title an exclusive to a system, cause then when the 3rd title arrives on multi-platform, no one would be interested, cause they lost a title in the middle.

      That’s my opinion of course.

      • Spirit Macardi

        Tell that to the Kingdom Hearts series x3

        And this isn’t a pseudo exclusive, it’s a definite exclusive since it’s Nintendo’s money that’s funding the very creation of it. Even the fact that they’re doing it is nothing short of a miracle, considering they’re taking a risk on a sequel to a cult game that didn’t do so well in the market. That shows legitimate care not just for the series, but for the medium.

        • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

          Truth be told, I am not into RPG, but I know the feeling, kinda.

          My definition of Pseudo-Exclusive is when a title is multi-platform then goes to a singular platform.

      • Wake

        Let’s say Nintendo didn’t step in to fund Bayonetta 2. How exactly will people buy the third game when a second one doesn’t exist?

        • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

          Good question, but was Nintendo the only one interested in Bayonetta 2 ?!, of course no one would know, unless there is someone working inside Platinum, though I think other publisher may have been interested, yet nothing for sure.

      • ronin4life

        But this is a “true exclusive” now by your posted guidlines.
        And b3 will probably be one as well.

        • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

          how come ?!, the first title is started on PS3/X360, and not even on WiiU.

      • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

        Except that REmake and SC: Conviction were both developed and published by third-party companies, with (I believe) the first-party companies paying for exclusivity. Unless I’m mistaken, Capcom or Ubisoft could port those games to other systems at some point if they wanted to, since they own the rights. Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101, on the other hand, are being directly funded and published by Nintendo – W101, in particular, is a wholly-owned first-party property (while Bayonetta 2 is co-owned with Sega). This means that they are first-party games, in the same way that, say, Gears of War is a first-party property for Microsoft, despite being made by a third-party developer (Epic Games).

        Also people do not seem to get that if it weren’t for Nintendo’s involvement there wouldn’t BE a Bayonetta 2. Sega was having trouble funding it, which is why Nintendo stepped in.

        • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

          True regarding REmake & SCC, but I think the issue here is that Nintendo is paying it all as you said, but personally I believed that we would have gotten Bayonetta 2 one time from another publisher, Sega is clearly not the best out there right now.

          • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

            Sega owns the rights to Bayonetta as a property, though. I doubt they’d be willing to hand them over to a rival third-party publisher.

          • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

            That’s something new to me, I thought the IP belonged to Platinum Games, anyway since Sega had no luck with Bayonetta 1 and couldn’t fund the sequel, selling the IP would have been better, I mean now that Nintendo is paying for development, well Sega get a penny of it ?!

          • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

            I don’t think Platinum actually owns any of the IPs it’s developed – and of course Sega will be benefitting from putting out Bayonetta 2, why do you think their name will be on the box? Also, when was the last time you heard of a non-bankrupt publisher just up and selling off an original IP? It doesn’t really make business sense.

          • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

            well that is new to me, I though independent developers own their IPs, like how Remedy used to own Max Payne and then sold it to Rock* you know.

            & it is not a good thing that publisher aren’t selling their IPs, I mean of course the ones they no longer want to support, imagine title X which has been out for 10years and the publisher isn’t welling to do another game, I would rather see the IP sold to another developer who can make a title out of it.

            But I get what you mean.

          • J_Joestar

            That would be a great move from a gamer’s point of view, but as a business, they will want to keep their IPs regardless of whether or not they plan to use them at the moment. at most they will sell the ones that are fairly unpopular.

            I would love it if Capcom would just sell Megaman to Inafune but that ain’t happening, they wouldn’t even take him up on the offer to finish MML3 for them.

          • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

            Yup, I guess you are right, in the talk about Capcom, I can’t see them selling Megaman, Dino Crisis, or Onimusha, since these were high profiles for them, I have a feeling we will see them returning one day.

            But what about Dark Void ?!, that game didn’t make a great success, and I feel Capcom will bury it, yet I have a feeling Dark Void has huge potential if done right, so why not sell it, don’t you think ?!

          • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

            If a company controls a potentially profitable IP they’re going to sit on it, even if they’re not currently exploiting it. Meanwhile, if another company wants to make a game in the same genre or whatever as that IP, their choice is between spending what probably amounts to an exorbitant amount of money either buying the rights or paying royalties for the other company’s IP, or coming up with an original property and not having to pay anybody, with only the POTENTIAL disadvantage of not being able to sell as much based on brand recognition. Seems like a pretty obvious business choice, don’t you think?

          • http://twitter.com/SameerMonier Sameer Monier

            Hmmmm, I think you are right, It was just cause I saw alot of good games remain dead cause they didn’t sell that good, so I always think you don’t want a certain IP, then sell it, maybe someone else can do what you couldn’t, but if you keep it you better keep it alive then, not killing it for +10 years.

  • Oni123

    Loved Bayonetta so this is a day one buy for me =) apart from the initial shock of playing it on a nintendo console i don’t see any problem with this.

  • Jrocy247

    I love this response, I just don’t know why….It’s like “If you want Bayo 2 on other platforms, get on your knees and kiss Nintendo’s feet, cause otherwise it’s not happening”

  • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

    I mean, what part of “Without Nintendo, this game wouldn’t exist” is so hard?

    I half wish Nintendo would buy Platinum. They don’t really have much in the way of M rated devs.

    • z_merquise

      I prefer Platinum to stay independent and just let them do contractual work for publishers like what they did with Sega and currently with Nintendo and Konami.

      • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

        I’d rather Platinum have a firm sense of security. I don’t want to lose those guys. Not again.

        • zeta

          indeed like how capcom ditched them

          • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

            exactly. Nintendo only cuts ‘em loose when they start to suck. See: Rare, Silicon Knights.

        • Adol Christin

          Unfortunately Shinji Mikami already left PG. I would have loved to see him make Vanquish 2. Kamiya adores him.

    • Adol Christin

      I wish that would never happen. Platinum Games love their independence and they are not tied down any one company. That’s what makes them great.

      • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

        I’m pretty sure if Nintendo said “We want to buy you”, they couldn’t sign the company over fast enough. It’s Nintendo. And really, when is the last time they did a dev wrong?

        (no really. if you know, correct me)

        • Adol Christin

          I get your point but like I said before PG love their independence. They have even shown interest in developing PC titles in the near future. With Bayo2 I totally get it, but more people get to play their games, the better :)

          Don’t you want your friends who don’t have Nintendo consoles to play their games :)

  • phangtom

    Don’t see why people are still complaining and acting like it’s someone’s fault. Nintendo were the ones that were kind enough to fund and publish it. If you’re going to get butthurt about it, blame Sony and Microsoft who could’ve done it as well, but chose not to.

    It’s not trolling or whatever you want to call it. The fact is you’re out of your mind if you think Nintendo is going to let a competitor get a game that they funded and think that Platinum Games is going to spit in Nintendo’s face by releasing it on another console.

    • brian

      I actually can see people being confused about it because of Nintendo being involved with Ninja Gaiden 3, because that situation is confusing to an extent.
      And maybe they’re curious if Nintendo is going to keep Bayo 2 permanently or let it be ported eventually as in maybe several console generations from now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/whywould.itellyou.5 Whywould Itellyou

        For what reason would Nintendo give their exclusives away, this or any generation? The only other places the 2 games will be played on are the next console after Wii-U if it’s backwards compatible and whenever the PC gets Wii-U emulation which won’t be for a long time.

      • Adol

        Nintendo was involved in Ninja Gaiden 3, but they didn’t fund the game, in this case, Bayonetta 2 will be funded and distributed by Nintendo

    • http://gematsu.com/author/ro-kurorai 浪黒雷 (Roland Gmyrek)

      Well, Platinum are in no position to release it on another console as they’re neither the publisher nor the distributor nor the owner of the IP. It simply won’t happen. Bayo 2 is a WiiU exclusive. It’s basically the same situation as Heavy Rain. Sony funded the development of Heavy Rain by working with a 2nd party. Ninty are doing exactly the same with Bayo2 and Platinum.

      People should really suck it up and buy WiiU if they wanna play Bayo2. I know why Sony did not pick up the franchise – which platform holder would, after a severely gimped port to their own system. Why MS didn’t is beyond me. Platinum showed the world what 360 can do if worked on by an awesome dev – there are only a slew of visually appealing 720p 60fps games on either console – yet MS did not bother to support them.

      It’s very simple, really: Without Nintendo there would be no Bayonetta 2.
      Without Sony there would be no Heavy Rain, Uncharted, GOW etc.
      Without MS there would be no Halo and GeOW.

      Wanna play exclusive games?! Go grab a console to whom those games are exclusive to. If all consoles had no exclusives, how would they distinguish themselves from each other?

    • http://twitter.com/Seisokujin 紺碧アベンジャー

      I recall articles last year stating that SEGA was pulling funding off of select titles to fund a new Sonic game. Bayonetta 2 was on that chopping block. So it wouldn’t be surprising if that was the actual case, which I believe it might be.

  • isfuturebright

    I’m waiting for this :) HD Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2! It’s good to have a Wii U!

    • $39420547

      yes it its though we have to wait a bit too long for them

  • AaqibRawat

    I can not wait for uncharted 4 on the wii u ! :P

    great response.

    come on guys and girls if bayo 2 xenoblade 2 and wonderfull 101 and monster hunter haven’t,sold you already…

    • JoJo_649

      I don’t care for any of those, wake me up when they bring the new 3D Mario, Starfox, Metroid Prime 4 and Super Smash Bros.

      • AaqibRawat

        ………………………..

        my body is not ready!

        i want all of those too! and F zero please

        • JoJo_649

          Well

          • AaqibRawat

            fantastic

      • AaqibRawat

        ………………………..

        my body is not ready!

        i want all of those too! and F zero please

  • $29082171

    Isn’t the IP owned by Sega though?

    They’re in a very tight financial situation right now and even went ahead and sued Level-5 for a ridiculous claim. They could just do something like Bayonetta 2 Sigma since that’s what Tecmo did to screw over Microsoft with Ninja Gaiden.

    • http://twitter.com/ValeFalkren Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Owning Intellectual property doesnt mean they can just publish and fund it

      • http://twitter.com/ValeFalkren Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        The situation with RE4? Capcom had a team develop it, and funded it(capcom is a publisher) Nintendo payed them money to have the game on their system for X amount of years. In this situation , Sega gave up publishing rights, nintendo funded the development and they have input but they let Platinum games do their own thing.

        • zeta

          but this one is different from what you are saying. Nintendo funded this game so they have the exclusive rights for it sega merely uses its intellectual property rights. unless if sega was the one who funded this game it could’ve gone multiplatform but in the first place if nintendo didn’t stepped in this game wouldn’t exist.

    • MrSirFeatherFang

      nvm, I misread your post… carry on…

  • AuraGuyChris

    And now people are going to think Sony and Microsoft are bad companies that neglect games.
    That or they blame Nintendo for being stinking rich.
    Just kidding, of course. This, like MrCapeNCloak said, is golden.

  • gsnap

    Good for Nintendo. They need these types of games. It will broaden their appeal even further.

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    “It’s supposed to mean what it says”

    Everyone should be happy that we’re even getting a sequel. This whole article was glorious and Kamiya is the man lol. Finally, FINALLY someone from a developer had the balls to pretty much say to the whiners:

    “You get what you get. If you don’t like it, then that’s your problem. It’s out of our hands.”

  • Cameron Ward

    yeah that isnt going to happen….Nintendo has a good relationship with platinum Games right now so of course they are NOT going to let Bayonetta 2 get on a PS3 or 360.

  • http://www.geekrevolt.com/ DeShaun Zollicoffer

    The port begging is getting annoying. Just buy a Wii U if you really want to play Bayonetta 2. Yeah, I know the first one was on PS3/Xbox 360, but SEGA didn’t want to fund a sequel. True fans should be praising Nintendo for giving Platinum Games the chance to make a sequel.

    • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

      Well if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Mass Effect wouldn’t have existed. But 5 years after ME1 got released on 360, it got a PS3 port. Also Gears of War is now under question from PS3 fans:

      http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/03/04/could-gears-of-war-end-up-on-ps3.aspx

      http://www.1up.com/news/gears-of-war-ps3-epic-love

      and given MS habit of making thing timed exclusives (Ninja Gaiden 2, Castle Crashers, Bioshock 1, Star Ocean 4, Eternal Sonata, and Tale of Vesperia), I have a feeling Gears could get a PS3 port and if that happen, that’s going to make Bayonetta fans raise more doubt and more questions over Bayonetta 2 on Wii U.

      • Alexander Marquis Starkey

        Well Nintendo doesn’t really do timed exclusivity. When the publish something themselves, as in pay for it to get done, they make sure that it won’t get done again on another platform usually.

        • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

          As much as I like to believe it, I want to wait and see. Some of us including me think that Nintendo is replicating Microsoft’s strategy of timed exclusive.

        • Rick R

          Publishers have no say really even when they fund something if they don’t own the property. Nintendo funded the correcting of Ninja Gaiden 3, published it, had their hands in it and now it’s coming to the other platforms and was being denied just like this game is currently. Truth is it may go multiplatform or it may not, nothing either of them say at this point is any indication of the truth. Tecmo was telling us there was no plan for Razors Edge PS3 while they were currently working on it and it was more than half way done. All you have to do to get out of an exclusivity deal is make more content in a ported version so it’s not the same.

      • DriftSlave

        Tales of Vesperia PS3 would like to have a word with you :/

        MS paid for the exclusivity in the west. Source: http://gematsu.com/2011/06/namco-microsoft-bought-tales-of-vesperia-exclusivity-rights

        Ninja Gaiden 2(like the original) had advanced remakes for the PS3 so it had that “loophole” in copyright all because they added in Sigma to the title, similarly to Star Ocean 4: International Edition, again another round about way in getting it ported.

        Ninja Gaiden 3:Razors Edge tho….that is something I cannont explain and I don’t know what Nintendo thinks about that…..

        • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

          Nope Tales of Vesperia isn’t 360 exclusive in the west, Siliconera also reported on this:

          http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/27/tales-of-vesperia-isnt-part-of-an-xbox-360-exclusivity-deal-after-all/

          Also Troy Baker the guy who voiced the main character for Tales of Vesperia said he recorded more dialogue for the PS3 version:

          http://gematsu.com/2010/06/troy-baker-confirms-tales-of-vesperia-ps3-localization-in-video

          • DriftSlave

            Until I see a official announcement from BN about TOV PS3, it’s irrelevant….Considering that Xillia is US bound very soon….it looks like its going to be swept under the rug.

          • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

            So you don’t trust Troy Baker’s word on how he recorded additional dialogue on the PS3 version of TOV.

          • Spirit Macardi

            Unfortunately sometimes voice actors will be hired for things that never see release or are cut from the final product.

            Alternatively, Troy could have gotten the game port confused with the prequel film which did see US release. I’m inclined to believe his initial comment that it was for the game though.

          • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

            I don’t think he was confused, he stated he did recorded more dialogue for the PS3 version and he did say he wants to play the PS3 version when it comes out. So he didn’t look confused or thing like that.

          • Spirit Macardi

            Like I said, I believe him, but I was offering an alternate possibility just to play devil’s advocate. Just the same though, I’ve long accepted that it’s just not meant to be.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            That he recorded additional dialogue maybe, that such is proof a localization was canned for whatever reason, no.

          • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

            I know. But then again it took 5 years for Mass Effect 1 to get a PS3 port. Also do you recall the game, Deadly Premonition, it came out on 360 2 years earlier. The PS3 version came out in Japan, but the US and Europe hasn’t gotten a release until it was just announced:

            http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2012/10/16/deadly-premonition-the-directors-cut-headed-to-playstation-3-next-year/

            So I guess anything’s possible. But we’ll just wait and see.

        • Link

          Temco co-published NG3:RE so they still have a say on platforms.

  • Göran Isacson

    J.P Kellams and Hideki Kamiya are sassy, sassy dudes and I believe they can swagger as hard as Bayonetta if prompted to. Really like this reply, sad as it is that some people need this kind of clarification. Ask Nintendo, and get our of their hair.

  • almostautumn

    lmao. I like the ending cut. It’s a bit snarky, but the truth; Nintendo really did make Bayonetta 2 happen— so despite its fans being routed on 360/PS3, it really is a pretty hopeless advent.
    Still bullsh*t, but I like the way they addressed this despite.

  • TheCynicalReaper

    “Might also want to ask for a PS3 Zelda.”
    Hey! That would totally work, if Beyonetta was EVER a 1st party title to begin with! Zelda was always property of Ninentdo. Not Beyonetta, which was on both PS3 and 360 when it came out. Not so clever with the wit, are yah?
    Glad to see these guys being facetious to a simple question that easily could’ve been answered with “No. Nintendo financed it, so it belongs to them.”

    • TheCynicalReaper

      Not to mention Resident Evil 4, which was a Cube exclusive at first, but then moved to the PS2 later on, hence all the questions about Beyonetta 2 moving to the PS3 and 360 in the future.

      • Link

        Nintendo didn’t outright fund RE4 though, RE4 would have been made with or without Nintendo. Bayo 2 wouldnt.

    • Sylveria

      They’ve been saying that (No, Nintendo’s financing it) for months. People are still raging at Platinum like they are intentionally giving PS3/360 owners the finger and it wasn’t Sega or any other publisher they shopped the game around to before Nintendo giving the PS3/360 owners the finger.

      If I was getting death threats from idiots who didn’t bother to understand the nature of the business relationship here, I’d probably start getting facetious to. It astounds me that even still people don’t understand the publisher/developer relationship and who ultimately has the power when it comes to distribution/porting/etc.

      Admittedly I don’t know the intricacies of whatever contract Platinum made with Nintendo to secure development funds, but I’ll still say with a fair amount of confidence that Nintendo made sure they’re the one who can make the decision on when or even if Platinum can shop the game around to another publisher to port it to 360/PS3.

    • Aoshi00

      Yeah, I don’t like his cheeky answer either, and the comparison to PS3 Zelda is not entirely appropriate, since the first Bayo was not exclusive nor was it on Nintendo platform before.. It’s hard to blame some for wanting to see a port, since most games don’t stay exclusive forever these days..

      I did get a Wii U (right now not getting much play after Mario, and I drew a pic after watching The Walking Dead on Netflix lol).. if Nintendo would just be less stubborn and sneak in some accomplishment as a standard.. also would need to get the Pro controller later on for long hours of Bayo 2, the pad is cool but lasts like 3-4 hours (and you can’t turn off the screen).. It’s like playing a console but need to charge the controller every couple of hours.. I would’ve gotten the controller if it actually works w/ Mario, but it doesn’t, just the old Wii remote..

      Of course I wouldn’t mind getting Bayo 2 on the Wii U just like Xenoblade, Pandora’s Tower, or Last Story if that’s what I have to do.. Kudos to Ninty for funding the sequel though (I didn’t know it was to that extent, just thought the Wii U needed some new games).. yes, I like cheevos/trophies and am disappointed Wii U doesn’t have any *.*;… to think that they’re linking console/portable, like PS3 and Vita sharing trophies now..

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      If you got the kind of constant death threats and childish insults they’ve had to put up with these last few months, you’d be pretty furious, too. They’re only human; they have every right to be pissed off, even if Kamiya does take it a little too far sometimes.

    • Never

      Aww poor you, did he hurt your feelings?
      Might also want to take your whining to the internet, because here your feelings matter! And clearly, that question had no blatantly obvious answer to begin with, oh no!

      You see, it just so happens that in this world when you ask a stupid question, you just might get that kind of answer- shocking, I know. Right now, Nintendo practically owns Bayo 2 (GOD knows why) so it might as well be a first party title even though the series is not.

      If he has to deal with people like you everyday, I can seriously understand this guy.

  • Mrgrgr and Unacceptable World

    I am really confused with all the port begging here. It is not like this is the first time it happens here.

    For example, Little King Story was first released of Wii and then it becomes Vita exclusive for it’s sequel. Does we see this magnitude of backlash here?

  • Luna Kazemaru

    I’m over the fact its wii u only (still not going to buy it) but I find it funny people in the comments are bitching about port begging and half of the people doing it do just that *cough* vita owners *cough* ToV ps3 beggars *cough*

  • StaticDestroyer

    If nintendo ever decided to port old titles (twilight princess, mario galaxy, etc) to the ps3 they’d make a fortune.
    It’d never happen but from a financial standpoint it’d be massively rewarding;

    • Suicunesol

      I don’t know about that. Doesn’t Nintendo make the lionshare of its profits from selling hardware? By releasing on a competitor’s platform, not only do they feed their competitor but jeopardize sales for their own platform.

      And the PS3 audience generally isn’t the same as the Nintendo audience. PS3 owners didn’t buy PS3s to play Zelda and Mario. They’re in it to play CoD, and… whatever else PS3 owners play nowadays.

      • StaticDestroyer

        I bought mine on the promise of titles like the last guardian and Versus XIII.
        And whilst it’s true they make the majority of their profits from hardware sales and console exclusives there are plenty of people who enjoy mario and zelda type games but aren’t willing to buy a whole new platform for them. Darksiders was essentially a zelda clone and was incredibly well received Okami HD is, again, essentially a zelda game and has done phenomenally well as a rerelease.
        To say all ps3 gamers are fps fans or hardcore CoD players is wildly unjust, especially given that the vast majority of console exclusives are action/adventure games.
        And all that aside, nintendo licensing out old games would only make them money. Not saying port Skyward sword, or Galaxy or whichever WIIU type exclusives are on their way. But old titles on older consoles wouldn’t harm them, as anything older than teh wii is no longer taking hardware sales and there were a number of gems on the gamecube, n64 and older that adult games who would have gron up with those as staples, but perhaps outgrown the nintendo “family” oriented console libraries.

        apologies for the late and long reply

  • M’iau M’iaut

    This thread wants to get out of control with backside attempts at requests and a whole lot of posting before thinking. Please remember the rules before posting, guys. Notice for all.

  • DCBlackbird

    I think people are taking the zelda part a tad too seriously…he isn’t calling b2 a first party game but he’s only comparing the likelihood of a multi platform release, and for heavens sake nintendo hasn’t had the same marketing team since 2004 so a repeat of a resident evil 4 scenario isn’t absolutely destined

  • Potionzmaster

    Not saying Bayonetta 2 will become multiplat at all, but since when was Kamiya on twitter to be trusted?
    If we were to believe him, Bayonetta 2 would have been reveiled in “next week’s Famitsu” for over a 100 times :P

  • Brandonmkii

    Hahaha I love Kamiya tweets.

  • Tom_Phoenix

    *sarcasm* The decision as to whether or not the game is ported elsewhere lies with the party that is carrying all the financial burden? What a shocking and unexpected turn of events! Like, I totally did not see that coming! */sarcasm*

    But seriously, I don’t know what else people were expecting. Heck, considering Nintendo is essentially carrying all the risk, exclusivity was tha bare minimum they could ask for in return.

    That said, however, this does make me wonder if we will eventually see a Wii U port of the original Bayonetta at some point.

  • Colin Tosh

    I’m surprised people even asked about this. Ninja Gaiden II going to PS3 was a different story because they tweaked the PS3 version around the Sigma engine making the game different and free to publish elsewhere. Asking for Bayonetta 2 to go on PS3 would be like asking Microsoft if they can put Gears of War on PS3 (the original game).

    Wonderful 101 would be an even harder case since I imagine Nintendo owns the IP like Sony own Ratchet and Clank.

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net/ gundamjehutykai

    What I don’t understand is that the tweet makes it sound like Nintendo own the bayonetta IP, which I’m pretty sure they don’t. A multiplatform release *can* happen but it depends on a variety of things, not least of which would be any kind of timed exclusivity deal ninty has for the title and whether or not another publisher is willing to release it on another platform by pumping the money in. The ninja gaiden games are a good example. The first 2 were published by MS but they still came to PS3. Hell, even razors edge, once touted as wiiU exclusive is making the jump! A bayonetta 2 on another platform isn’t as impossible as a PS3 zelda.

    • SirRichard

      They don’t own the IP, but they do own this game, it’s not that hard to understand. Bayonetta 2 was dead in the water, Sega felt the first didn’t sell well enough (a sad time we live in where 1 million isn’t enough) and there were no other takers. When Nintendo hit Platinum up for an exclusive IP for their system, Platinum also offered Bayonetta 2 because they wanted to make it.

      Simply put, the game’s being made on Nintendo’s money, to the point where they effectively own the rights to it judging by how determined Platinum are that it will remain exclusive.

      • http://twitter.com/VXLbeast VXLbeast

        Thank you.

      • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net/ gundamjehutykai

        Nintendo are publishing the game, agreed. But they don’t own any of the game nor the IP. They have no say in whether or not a bayonetta 2 port will happen. If another publisher comes in and offers platinum the cash to make a port, then it will happen. That’s just not happening at the moment.

        Platinum games are known to be fiercely independent so they’re not going to bend backwards just cos ninty said to. Bottom line is that Nintendo publishing bayonetta 2 doesn’t make it a wiiU exclusive. Other factors (which can be overcome) means that other versions are not on the cards and that can change (however unlikely)

        • SirRichard

          So you didn’t actually read my post, then? Nintendo are paying for this game’s development, they’re not just publishing it. They do own this game, they do have a say in who does what with it. This game would not exist without their funding, it’s being made on their money, therefore they own it. They don’t own the IP, no, but they do own this game and they do decide what and where it goes. If you’ll notice, Platinum have stated exactly this in this very article.

          That wasn’t the case with Ninja Gaiden or Rayman, Nintendo simply published the former in some regions and advertised the latter for Ubisoft, but they didn’t own either of them, allowing Team Ninja and Ubisoft to do as they please. But they’re funding this game, it wouldn’t exist without their money, they own it. They decide what happens to it.

          I don’t know how you can’t understand this, really.

  • culip21

    well. maybe they’ll port it someday…
    but don’t expect it to be so soon.
    maybe in 1-3 years after released on Wii U.
    The same goes with RE 4 and Tales of Vesperia.

  • MrJechgo

    People still complained about that? Geez, let it go already…
    Nintendo’s consoles CAN have something nice once in while, in case you didn’t know.

  • Adol Christin

    Fact = You want Bayo 2, you gotta buy Wii U. Look at this way, if Bayo 2 is successful, maybe Sega will get PG to make Bayo 3 for PS4 and Xbox 720.

    • MrJechgo

      Considering how poorly SEGA has been treating PG lately, I doubt that’ll ever happen again…

      • J_Joestar

        Well if the game becomes a guaranteed cash cow i could see it happen.

  • http://twitter.com/VXLbeast VXLbeast

    I still can’t wrap my head around why people are mad about Wii U exclusivity. Nintendo funds a game that never would have existed without their money…and that makes you mad?

    • Elvick

      People should be mad at Sega.

      Sega should have had faith in the series and funded the game.

      They’re the ones they should be mad with. If anyone.

      • http://twitter.com/VXLbeast VXLbeast

        I’d put a heavy emphasis on “if anyone”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000442928254 Zak Ledward

    I guess I’m bummed about Bayonetta 2 not having a possible port to the other 3rd gens, but it can’t be helped; gotta buy Wii U solely for Bayo2 XD People shouldn’t be so shocked by this development. I mean, there have been games that came out EXCLUSIVELY for certain consoles, which basically MADE you buy the console JUST FOR THAT GAME, if you loved it that much. This is basically the same thing, though I guess people aren’t used to buying Nintendo consoles for exclusive (unless you were a die-hard SSBM fan and just HAD to have SSBB) Just gotta save our money and buy the Bayo2 LE Wii U when it comes out

    • J_Joestar

      Actually, I’d say people are very used to going to Nintendo for exclusives. It is the PS3/360 that they grab for the multiplats.

  • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

    It’s like some people don’t understand what “first party” means.

    • Elvick

      Like you? Because this is a second party situation.

      • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

        They’re first-party title, published by a first-party publisher. Please, forgive me for making such a grave mistake.

  • Mnstrzero00

    But weren’t Killer 7, No More Heroes, Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe Nintendo exclusives originally. I’m totally expecting a Bayonetta 2 on the Ps3 or Xbox.

    • Never

      None of those games were funded by Nintendo, at this point Nintendo owns Bayo 2 and whatever happens to it is, as he said, up to Nintendo.

      The best you can honestly hope for is that someone other than Nintendo will fund the next game in the series, if there is one.

      • Mnstrzero00

        You’re right

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    OK, again with the misinformed posts. For the last time, we’ve seen no evidence that Mass Effect 1 was completely funded by Microsoft during development. Please stop spreading misinformation. We try really hard to control that around here.

  • Sylveria

    Aww I had a long reply all typed out to him. Curses!

  • Sylveria

    Aww I had a long reply all typed out to him. Curses!

  • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

    No MS did fund Mass Effect 1, remember ME1 was made and released on 360 before EA bought Bioware. Bioware couldn’t have made Mass Effect by themselves without any fund, so who funded ME1, it was Microsoft. So yes ME1 was a big project between Bioware and Microsoft.

  • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

    No MS did fund Mass Effect 1, remember ME1 was made and released on 360 before EA bought Bioware. Bioware couldn’t have made Mass Effect by themselves without any fund, so who funded ME1, it was Microsoft. So yes ME1 was a big project between Bioware and Microsoft.

  • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

    What were you going to type. I can’t believed my comment got deleted. Those are good evidence!!!

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Give me a source that says Microsoft funded Mass Effect 1 for certain, all the way from the start through development to the end, and I’ll start taking you seriously.

  • https://twitter.com/mikedo2007 mikedo2007

    Bioware has a forum, if you have an account, why don’t you ask:

    http://social.bioware.com/forum/

    Anyway, yes that’ll be the first thing I’ll do. Also a lot of gamers that is familiar with Mass Effect said yes the first ME was funded my Microsoft. You have to ask yourself this: Why did ME1 took so long to get a PS3 port? Why wasn’t ME1 ported to PS3 immediately after ME2 got a PS3 port? Doesn’t that raise some sort of question that MS could’ve funded ME1 hence why it took so long for it to get a PS3 port.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    A lot of gamers on the Internet also talk out of their ass, like you’re doing right now. Stop it before you get banned. You’ve been warned enough times. Come back when you have a concrete source that says Microsoft funded the entirety of Mass Effect’s development from start to finish.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Wow, this explains everything, including your entire commenting history. Banned. We don’t want this bullshit on our site.

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