Masahiro Sakurai Talks Super Smash Bros. 3DS And Wii U Differences

By Ishaan . June 11, 2013 . 5:15pm

 

 

Super Smash Bros. creator Masahiro Sakurai discusses differences between the 3DS and Wii U versions of the game, and also discusses some of the characters in a new developer diary video.

 

3DS:

Characters on 3DS version outlined to be easier to see on smaller screen.

Total number of characters is the same as Wii U version.

3DS stages will be more based on handheld games

 

Wii U:

Colours leaning more toward primary colours than Super Smash Bros. Brawl

 

Samus now based on design from Metroid: Other M rather than Super Metroid

Perforated metal added to Varia Suit to power her up, visually

 

Pit is now the Kid Icarus: Uprising version and has new moves

Can use Guardian Orbitars

 

Villager from Animal Crossing uses various items to fight and use combos

He can pick up anything, even Samus’ missiles or her Charge Shot and throw back

 

Maintaining Mega Man’s NES look was a top priority

Can use various boss abilities in battle like Hard Knuckle, Metal Blade etc.


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  • The Watcher

    I would like a Cross buy

    • niko

      It’s not the same game. Vita has cross buy. Would you prefer cross buy and NIntendo to abandon releasing new games like Vita?

    • Slayven19

      This ain’t sony and we don’t know if the games will even be compatible due to both having different artstyle and stages.

      • Auvers

        didn’t they make it out awhile ago that there was going to be some kind of compatibility between the two?

      • Lester Paredes

        Well, I do believe that they’ve said that there would be play between the two. what that means is anyone’s guess, but hopefully it means 3DS players can battle Wii U players. They said that some of the stages would be different, that the handheld would get more handheld game themes and the console would get more console game themes, but they didn’t say all the stages would be exclusive to any particular system. I imagine, if they implement cross play (don’t know what else to call it, so I’ll just use Sony’s term) it would be most likely on the stages that the two share, such as that Smash Stadium, wrestling ring stage.

    • Lester Paredes

      Cross buy would be cool, but I don’t think Nintendo would implement it.

  • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

    I find it very interesting that they featured Samus, Pit, and Link in the same segment, went on about Samus’s and Pit’s design for the game… and then completely ignored Link, despite his design being definitely not Twilight Princess, and not similar in design or presentation to Skyward Sword.

    Zelda Wii U information incoming within the next year.

    • Virevolte

      The piece of chainmail he wears makes me think that Link is the one from Skyward Sword. Am I missing something ?

      • Flandre Scarlet

        The face, mostly. That’s most definitely not Skyward Sword Link. He’s also using the Hylian Shield which was not part of SS’s story (and in all reality couldn’t have existed at the time regardless). They could have used the Hylian Shield simply because it’s recognizable, but the fact he looks very little like SS Link suggests that we might be seeing more information from the other Wii U Zelda title sometime between now and this Smash’s release.

        • ForteWily

          That is not really speculation, Nintendo has already said that there is another Zelda in development (brainstorming stage, my best guess) on top of the remake of Wind Waker during the first announcement in January.
          Will it be based on what has been seen in SSB? I doubt it, but we’ll have to see.

        • Kaihedgie

          Chainmail, baggy shorts, overall: Skyward Sword.

          Oh and, you can get the Hylian Shield in that game, just so you know ;P

          • Flandre Scarlet

            As a bonus item from a non-canon side game. In terms of story and plot, the Hylian Shield couldn’t have existed, since, well, Hylia as a nation didn’t exist until the very end of the game.

            And I’ve already mentioned his face is very non-SS Link, and they’re usually pretty good about keeping characters similar in art style to the most up-to-date incarnations.

      • Exkaiser

        He wore the chainmail in Twilight Princess, too.

        • Virevolte

          Damn, you’re right, and he has those heavy gauntlets too.

    • John Diamond

      apparently they weree going to show zelda Wii-u this e3 but didn’t wish to do so now for some reason.

      http://mynintendonews.com/2013/06/11/nintendo-considered-showing-zelda-wii-u-at-e3/

    • Auvers

      It actually totally does look like twilight princess I can’t see exactly what doesn’t look like it besides his hair being a bit brighter looking. He even has that brown thing strapped to his arm.

  • Spirit Macardi

    I think it would have been awesome if the 3DS version used sprites instead of 3D models. Granted it still looks good, but just imagine the pure nostalgia that could be channeled with that idea.

    • D H

      Eh… no thank you. I love sprite work as much as anybody, but with the characters having so many clashing styles and some only being available at certain formats (8-bit, 16-bit, no sprites at all) it’d be a headache really. Now, if they wanted to do all new stuff spritework/handdrawn, that’d be spectacular, but then it’d kinda ruin the whole nostalgia thing at the same time. Also, god damn am I tired of 8-bit Mega Man. Never gonna be able to recover and make him prominent in today’s gaming world if Capcom/Nintendo/whoever doesn’t let him evolve. Give me a full open 3D platformer/3rd-person-shooter hybrid with some lovely cel-shaded classic Mega Man goodness. Hell, remake 1-3 into a single game like this. It’d be spectacular. It’d grab attention. It wouldn’t be just yet another Mega Man title that plays basically the same and looks the same. I love games that play the same over and over, I’d play Mega Man 12-25231612 all in the same style, because they are fun. But if you want Mega Man to be prominent again, you can’t do that.

      Also, went on a tangent. Sorry. Just tired of complainers and it’s seeping into everything else. tl;dr, don’t like the idea, sorry.

  • Warboss Aohd

    why would ya use da ‘Other M’ version o’ her?

    • Spirit Macardi

      Because it’s the most up-to-date version of her?

      Even if you don’t like the game, there was nothing wrong with her design in it.

      • Dynami

        I just hope that this does not influence her portrayal in the game (ie making her vocal). The sounds she makes (and oftimes the lack thereof) in the SSB series is quite iconic at this point, way moreso than her Other M characterization.

        • Chibito

          Yeah I think the suit’s cool, but if she starts talking about the baby…

          • Asura

            THE BABY!!1111!!11

      • Slayven19

        Pretty much this.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Because she looks slick as hell! Super’s design is a bit too bulky and floaty now.

    • Lester Paredes

      Despite the game being utter crap, Samus’ suit looked awesome in Other M!

  • Folk Hellfang

    I liked the first game in this series, reveling in the fan service it provided. I have since lost interest in the series, I prefer more technical fighters, but I love that people love this game. All that being said, I have to admit that I am getting excited for this new version.

  • SirRichard

    I really like that touch for the 3DS version; even in Brawl on the Wii I would sometimes lose track of where I was, and a very visually busy screen on a large zoomed-in stage on small handheld screens would be hell without the outlines. They could’ve cut back on the sizes of the levels or the level detail, but chose not to.

  • Junko Enoshima

    So the 3DS one has the same amount, but different characters? So…no villager?

    • http://simplephilistine.wordpress.com/ Arla

      Where in the world did you get that from? 3DS and Wii U version have the same amount of characters. The difference between the characters are their models. The 3DS version has outlines on them. The Wii U version doesn’t.

      • http://oneweakness.com/ PRIZZA

        I’m a little worried about the wording of the statement “Total number of characters is the same as Wii U version”. It doesn’t state that it will feature the same characters, but rather the same total amount. If the 3DS version doesn’t get villager I’m going to be disheartened. The reason people have pointed this out is because everyone has 3DS screenshots of themselves except for him.

        • luckgandor

          I believe Wii Fit Trainer also doesn’t have any 3DS screenshots.

          • Guest

            They’re 3DS counterparts may not be finished yet.
            It is still in developement after all.
            Nothing to worry about… yet.

          • roydgriffin

            Their 3DS counterparts may not be finished yet.
            It is still in developement after all.
            Nothing to worry about… yet.

        • Beat

          Villager is a 3ds character. He’s definitely going to be in the 3ds version. I think you’re all reading too much into it.

  • fireemblembeast

    I’ll probably end up getting the 3DS version and then getting the Wii U version as well once I get a Wii U next year or so :3

  • konsama

    Finally justice to Megaman, looks freaking cool and just like a 3DS version of the orginal, no weird art, no super kiddy looks, just the classic megaman we all love and wanted.

    The game looks really cool, i might pick up the 3DS version, haven’t played any SSB since the N64 one lol.

    • Lester Paredes

      Love this Mega Man design. I want a little plushie of him of my very own!

  • Shadowman

    Any Cross-play?

    • Dynami

      I’m going to guess that’s a definite no.

      I had figured as much when we saw the differing artstyles, but the fact that the two versions have different stages essentially seals the deal.

      • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

        Well, I will say the opposite to that. Cross-Play (or the old term, “Cross-Platform Play”) was the first thing said about this “Multi-Platform” Super Smash Brothers, and for 2 years now.

    • http://s1.zetaboards.com/Espada_of_Alexandria/index/ konpon568

      I’m going with “yes”.

  • 3PointDecoupage

    Thank god they’re not leaving stuff out for the 3ds.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      This is Nintendo. If anything, they lavish their handhelds with more features than their consoles.

  • Vesperion

    Wow did Bowser always look that scary?

  • Göran Isacson

    Can anyone point out what game the stage they use when they demonstrate Mario and Bowser on the Wii U version at 1:40? Is that the new FInal Destination, but with an actual background? Or is it from some game I just don’t recognize?

    Villager sounds like he’s a character like Olimar or GameWatch, someone with a ton of different tricks and secrets that will be hell to fight if their player knows what their doing… and utter chaos to play before you actually figure him out. Looking fun, I must admit! Almost as fun as Megaman and his numerous weapons, which I do wonder how they’ll switch them up.

    And then he even outright admits that nobody was asking for the wii fit trainer, ha ha… well, as long as he believes the idea might work?

    • brian

      Looks like (maybe?) the Skyloft from Skyward Sword, though I only really played a demo of that game, or something from Kid Icarus.

    • Vesperion

      The stage is Battlefield just like in the last game

      • Göran Isacson

        Ah, gotcha- so just a “general stage” that’s original to the Smash Bros games, not something they’ve taken from some other game.

  • MrJechgo

    “Total number of characters is the same as Wii U version”
    So both version could get 45 characters, but 5 of them could be console-exclusive… not much of a “good” news here…

    • Solomon_Kano

      I don’t really take that as bad news either, as it would further encourage me to get both versions, but I do think that statement was interesting.

      He could have said the games would have the same characters and that would’ve indicated they have the same number in their roster, but saying the “total number” would be the same indicates (to me, anyway) that there will be unique characters to each version, though one won’t have more than the other.

      • MrJechgo

        That’s something that rubs me the wrong way…
        I kinda hate when one version gets different characters. I can understand console-exclusive guest characters, like Link, Heihachi and Spawn were for SC2, but Nintendo characters should be available in all versions.
        That reminds me of Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed which had two extra Sega characters, Football Manager and Shogun, exclusive to PC, when the console versions didn’t get them as DLC.

        • Beat

          I dunno I think you’re just reading into it too much. I don’t think they would make different characters for each game since they both play nearly exactly the same way. It would just be a waste of time to make characters that were only available in one game.

        • smashbrolink

          Maybe, if there’s version-specific characters, they can be traded freely between the portable version and the Wii U version, in exchange for another?
          If it comes out at the same time as the unified accounts system, then linking the two versions of the game to the same account could make that plausible.

          • MrJechgo

            I’ve heard of rumors that the 3DS and Wii U would be used to play with each version, as in Wii U users could play online with 3DS users and vice-versa. However, seeing that stages are console-exclusive, that won’t happen… and with that, linking both consoles might not be a feature here.

          • J_Joestar

            Do we know if ALL stages are exclusives? Cross-play may just force stage selection limits which isn’t much too much unless we can only crossplay in Final Destination, no items, Fox only.

          • smashbrolink

            Unless…..they only make the console-specific stages unselectable when playing with the other console’s users…..

    • Testsubject909

      I think the thing to dread is the eventual debate on which one is the best Smash Bros game.

  • Solomon_Kano

    Different stages, eh? Hm…

  • Ben Sylvia

    Wondering what others think of this.
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/kirby/screen-7.jpg

    This stage is in several of the 3DS version screenshots, I REALLY want to think it’s a Fire Emblem stage, but none of them give a really good look at it, does anyone have a good guess as to what it might be?

    • Exkaiser

      The background looks a lot like the coliseum background in Awakening… but then it’s got fortifications and a tower. Fire Emblem seems likely, though.

      • roydgriffin

        It’s definitely the arena from Fire Emblem Awakening.
        Compare fire emblem screenshot with the smash bros stage. Especially the torches in the back and the pattern on the floor! :)

        • Ben Sylvia

          Yeah it’s what I was thinking, but the wooden buildings were throwing me off.

          Hope one of the first new characters they reveal after E3 is Lucina/Chrom, and maybe The Vaike as an assist trophy.

          • J_Joestar

            Well the arena is just flat, so the structures are probably there to make it more interesting instead of a walled in Final Destination.

    • Mordina

      I’m pretty sure it’s the Ferox Arena from FEA, in that case… badass! I would love to see the Dragon’s Table as a stage as well!

      • Ben Sylvia

        Yeah, the fortifications were throwing me off though.

        Personally I thought the Mila Tree would have made an awesome stage. If nothing else it would have been nice to look at.

  • LaserVision

    Looks like an Xl would be a must for this one. If they released one in the US in the color above I probably would’ve bought one at this point.

  • Mnstrzero00

    Finally yoga pants+ video games. Nintendo clearly wins.

    • Testsubject909

      Yoga pants. Yoga Kick. Yoga Fire.

      Wait, no, wrong game.

  • Raltrios

    When I saw Pit using Guardian Oribitars, it made my day. They’re one of my favourite weapons in Uprising’s multiplayer. Kick so much keister with them :D

  • HerosLight

    TWEWY-related stage for 3DS version pls.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    Just let it happen……….it will all be over soon

    • Tonton Ramos

      Dat face will haunt me forever…

      • Testsubject909

        Best prank to pull on you.

        When you go to sleep. Sneak in and post up large posters of Villager’s face on your walls and ceiling.

    • Testsubject909

      *looks at the list of upvotes*

      I wonder who this Mordina person is.

      Only 15 comments. Wow. Minimalism.

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        22?!

  • SonicRulez

    Call it selfish, but I wish it could’ve been Battle Network Mega Man. He was on quite a few Nintendo consoles himself.

    • http://gamgambit.tumblr.com/ Thespian Treasure Hunter ♢

      Classic Megaman is more iconic and more requested so yeah.

      That said, I’d love to play as Megaman EXE or Starforce Megaman as well

  • smashbrolink

    This, X, and Bayonetta 2.
    Three incredible killer apps for the Wii U, with more to come.

  • Niyari

    wasn’t there a story a while back about how the 3DS version was going to be single player only?

  • Auvers

    I wonder if same amount of characters just means the same overall number but some different characters or the same characters for each?

    • J_Joestar

      Probably the same characters, i can’t expect them to go through the work of making whole characters for just 1 version. Maybe straight clones might be possible (Marth for Wii U FE:A “Marth” for 3DS?)

  • Mordina

    Hope to see some Fire Emblem characters soon <3 Will definitely get this for 3DS.

    • J_Joestar

      Ferox Arena can be spotted in trailers already.

      • Mordina

        Yup! That made me happy.

  • Testsubject909

    I wonder (I don’t know if it was covered in another article) if it’s cross play compatible. That is to say. 2 Friends on their 3DS fighting you and someone else. Or if there’s online multiplayer and the sort to which said cross-play could be compatible with…

  • Lester Paredes

    Oh man! MEGA MAN is in the game. Definite buy!

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