Atlus’ Parent Company Files For Bankruptcy

By Ishaan . June 27, 2013 . 9:00am

Index Corporation, the company that owns Atlus, has begun civil rehabilitation procedures in Japan. That’s a fancy way of saying that the company is filing for bankruptcy (thanks, Hachima), owing to 2.45 billion yen in outstanding debt and less than expected sales in foreign territories.

 

This news follows earlier reports about Index being investigated for fraud. Additionally, CEO Yoshimi Ochiai has hinted at his resignation from the company.

 

Index are taking measures to turn the situation around, though, and are looking for a sponsors to transfer their games business operations. In the meantime, the company has stated over Twitter that sales of Atlus’ games such as Etrian Odyssey Untold: Millennium Girl and Dragon’s Crown will continue as per planned.

 



  • [ Mauricio ]

    Atlus, you’re the best developer out there, please survive… for your own sake and for the sake of gamers everywhere, we need you.

  • Jungo

    This is exactly what I was afraid of happening back when I heard about the fraud investigations: they were trying to dig themselves out of this hole, weren’t they? What are the long-term implications of this now?

    • Grape Monet

      Index sells the rights to Atlus’s games individually, as a group, Atlus regains the rights to their series and is auctioned off, or Atlus is auctioned off along with the games but another publisher acquires the rights. The best-case scenario would be if Atlus regains their rights and has enough clout to go independent, but I don’t know if that’s possible right now.

  • XypherCode

    I hope the development of SMT x Fire Emblem is unaffected by this.
    If ever Atlus needs to auction off their assets I hope either Sony or Nintendo snags them. Maybe Persona for Sony and SMT for Nintendo. Kinda impossible though since Persona is still under SMT. I bet Iwata’s on the phone right now with Atlus. LOL :D

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      I’d rather none of the console companies bought Atlus. It’d be better if they retained a choice of what to develop for.

      • Nitraion

        Super agreed

      • XypherCode

        Good point.

      • Lightthrower

        Yep! We all remember the RARE fiasco…

    • Brimfyre

      For selfish reasons I would want Nintendo to buy them so I can hold off getting a PS4 for a few years.

      But if they just sold off the properties that would be horrible. That would mean they would just sell the name with none of the talent attached to them. What a nightmare.

      • CirnoTheStrongest

        I was figuring P5 was gonna be PS36U

        • XypherCode

          I think the early rumors were that P5 will also come to PS3 as well as Wii U. I think they’re also gunning for a PS4 version as well.

          • Brimfyre

            I’ve never even heard a whisper of a rumor of P5 coming to Wii U. I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but where did you hear that from?

          • XypherCode

            Might just be nonsense I kept seeing so many months (or years?) ago. It’s the same with KH3 btw. Forgot where in the world I read those from. xD

      • Brimfyre

        I down voted myself to keep with the theme.

    • Grape Monet

      I think it’s best if Atlus’s assets remain with Atlus. Besides, Persona is kind of a subset of SMT, if that was sold to someone else then there would be all kinds of rights issues since the two series share a lot of content, such as character and monster designs.

      While I am a Nintendo fan, I think it’s best for Atlus if they remain a third-party. I’m not opposed to them buying Atlus if that turned out to be the best option, but I think there are better options out there.

    • Eder García

      Persona is NOT part of the SMT franchise.

      • idrawrobots

        It literally says Shin Megami Tensei on the box for Persona 4.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/Ojsinnerz Firo_Prochainezo

          That’s because Atlus USA decided to label everything related to SMT as “SMT: Whatever”. The Japanese Boxart of Persona 4 ONLY says “Persona 4″, rather than “Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4″.

          • Asclepius

            how could it not be a part of SMT if it has the similar concept and demon compendium..

          • https://twitter.com/#!/Ojsinnerz Firo_Prochainezo

            It’s a spinoff, not part of the mainline SMT.

          • XypherCode

            Yeah… I should have said spin-off and not “under”. xD

          • Syn

            So that makes it part of smt init?? Same way Final Fantasy tactics is not mainline FF but still part of it in some way

          • XypherCode

            Well yeah that’s basically what a spin-off is. Derived from the main series. In this case it’s SMT.

          • XypherCode

            Well if Atlus JP was ok with Atlus USA labeling them with SMT then it might as well be a SMT game for that matter.

          • Brimfyre

            They all come from the Shin Megami Tensei IF…. storyline. And they are all sequential. So yes, Persona is a SMT game, like it or not.

          • ChiffonCake

            The way I see it, SMT/Persona/Devil Summoner/etc. are part of Megami Tensei, with the distinction between that and SMT being the same as FF in general and numbered FFs, for example.

            Most of this argument really seems to come from Atlus USA putting that SMT on the titles of all of the games.

          • Brimfyre

            Now you are just arguing semantics.

            If you put Persona 3 and Nocturne in front of someone who had never heard of Megaten, they would assume they are in the same franchise.

            I’m not really sure why people get so worked up about Persona, insisting it isn’t part of Megaten. It is. Who cares what they put on the damn cover.

          • ChiffonCake

            >Now you are just arguing semantics.
            Uh, well, yeah? I’m pretty sure that that’s what this whole argument’s about.

            Also, no need to sound so condescending.

          • Brimfyre

            Sorry if I sounded condescending. Not my intention at all.

            It’s just that when you start getting into calling it Megaten or SMT or whatever, I think it’s just getting silly. SMT and Megaten have been interchangeable for years.

          • Nightmare637

            The two Fanbases have never gotten along so its nothing new, the SMT fanbase gets really worked up over some annoying fans constantly asking for P5 and the Persona fanbase gets tired of getting blown up on at the mere mention of persona.
            so there pretty much both at fault but its mainly because of “hardcore” Fanboys from both sides.

          • Brimfyre

            I guess that’s what I have never understood and why this angers and confuses me more than a unfrozen caveman lawyer.

            I’ve always loved any Megaten game, Persona or mainline. But that makes sense why I can’t seem to wrap my head around why this is an argument.

          • RoxasTheUnknown1

            You deserve a hug. xD I love both too. Except Persona 1. >_>

          • Arcana Wiz

            Yup, I dont understand the fight about whatever Persona is or isnt of the SMT franchise, they both are developed by a great company are great by they own merits and are both acclaimed series, i dont think the presence of a SMT or not before the name persona will ever change that.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            From a business standpoint, I would almost expect the decision was made using the Atelier family as a guide. Atelier/Iris/AT/MK were numbered internally by ‘project’ and while you have some folks who only buy one series and not the others, for most, they just are happy to by the next ‘project’.

          • Herok♞

            Well they stopped labeling it SMT with Golden and Arena

          • https://twitter.com/#!/Ojsinnerz Firo_Prochainezo

            Yeah, they finally dropped it.

      • Captmotorcycle

        You are 100% Correct. Persona is in the same franchise as Devil Suvivor, which we know to be Megami Ibunroku.

      • NewestType

        Dont get your vestments in a bind. They are more similar than they are different.

      • klkAlexar

        But it’s a MegaTen game, which is probably what people mean when they say SMT. People have to stop being so pedantic.

      • M’iau M’iaut

        Guys, please end this circular fight now. It always will come back to the same place. In the West, the decision was made to put everything under the same umbrella. Even in Japan things are brothers (or at least cousins) from another mother. The series largely owes its relevance in the West to how P3 was branded. That’s worth celebrating, not arguing about.

      • RisukuAozora

        You just HAD to post flamebait, didn’t you?

      • FitzpatrickPhillips

        ohboyherewego

      • piichan

        *grabs popcorn* aaaand it’s gone. seriously flamebaiter, if you’re going to flamebait, atleast join the convesation. we didn’t even know if you’re on the persona hardcore side or SMT. and yes, persona and smt are under the same franchise.

    • Beat

      I can see Nintendo and Atlus working together very well.

      • XypherCode

        Yeah kinda. Since almost all of their games right now are on Nintendo systems like with Etrian Odyssey and SMT4. Well same goes for Sony with the Persona franchise. A very well known and capable 3rd party pub might be good as well.

    • NewestType

      SMT x Fire Emblem is the only thing I hope they salvage. And ince its partially nintendo there may be hope…maybe not.

  • http://nisekami.deviantart.com/ NiseKami

    The worst has come true… I hope they CAN turn it around :c

  • Syn

    Oh crap, I really hope Atlus themselves remain unaffected, losing the SMT series as a whole would be a real shitty blow to the JRPG world, but especially to mine, I really lenjoy Atlus games as a whole.. this sucks balls.

    • Beat

      Yeah… Atlus is one of the best in jrpgs… right next to FF and the Tales series…

      • Syn

        Was hoping for a new devil summoner game this coming gen, along with P5 ofcourse, but this just kicks my hopes right out the window

    • Zeik56

      I think it’s unlikely that Atlus would go under completely, since their games are popular enough to be worth something. My concern is who picks them up and how that affects the future of the series. I don’t think there’s any chance Activision, EA, or Microsoft would pick them up, which is probably the worst case scenario in my mind, but someone like Nintendo or Sony could, and that means they’d be locked down to their consoles.

  • Jisgsaw

    Sad day :-(

    But it’s important to note that Atlus themselves are believed to be rather healthy. Index’ debts comes from other parts of the company.

    So I’m not that worried, someone will come and buy them back.

  • Khouli1989

    This is terrible ;/
    I hope they can survive somehow

  • Ethan_Twain

    Okay, context. Is this Southwest Airlines file for bankruptcy where it’s just a bookkeeping tactic to reset payrolls and the company is able to continue onward, or is this Enron bankruptcy where everything is gone forever?

    In other words: What percentage of annual income is Index’s unpaid debt?

    • Herok♞

      well things work differently internationally so I can’t say

    • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

      Things went pretty En-wrong with Enron, right?
      :D

  • DarkWaterClone

    Sony needs a RPG game studio. So it would great if Sony bought Index. This way Atlus would be a bigger part of the Playstation family.

    • Isaac Newton

      That maybe good but I still hope for them to be a 3rd party dev than jumping to Nintendo land or Sony

  • maxobiwan

    I wonder how it cost to record english voices. Because not having the choice of japanese dub is a break for some hardcore consumer…

    • FitzpatrickPhillips

      Ugh, how is it language audio even come into play here?

    • Bigabu Beaze

      It still cost money to use Japanese voices you moron. Some English voice actors have talent. Your just like the business people who export American jobs overseas and ruin the job market

      • maxobiwan

        In a game with allready japanese voices (allready spend), why spending more for english AND delete japanese

        • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

          When localizing games with Japanese voice acting it isn’t free. Just because it was paid for in Japan doesn’t mean it is for the US (UK). So why pay for Japanese voice acting rights when they are paying for English voicing which is the language the consumers speak.

  • idrawrobots

    Nintendo, I hear you a little extra money laying around.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JaeWhy SasuleUchiha

    I hope it’s Nintendo. I love importing my games.

    • qchto

      right, given the old tradition of region unlocked nintendo consoles … oh wait..

    • Herok♞

      I don’t see the point your making since Nintendo litterally brings over some of other peoples games like DQ9 and BD

      • Solomon_Kano

        It was a jab at their region locking. Whether they bring other people’s (Square Enix’s) games or not, that is a thing.

  • DesmaX

    Not only I’m worried about Atlus, the game developer (Even though I’m not their biggest fan, to be honest); but also as the Western publisher. They also publish some niche western titles too, that wouldn’t get a chance otherwise (I should pick God Mode).

    Having them brought by a Console Manufacturer would really be a loss… But I don’t really see any other choice. I can’t see other game devs that would want to buy them

    • Jesse Thompson

      Quite the contrary, Atlus’s games sell exceptionally well and spawn numerous “non-game” products. Have you visited amiami or any other japanese goods site and ran a search for “Persona 4″?…

    • Armane

      I, on the other hand, hope Atlus USA dies. I want Japanese audio and timely European releases. I’m pretty sure that’s not possible while the US branch is clogging up the system.

      • Herok♞

        So you want the studio that translates stuff to English and deals with Europe in the first place to die, when it will screw you over more in the long run because now the games won’t be in English to begin with and the decisions are made by Atlus in Japan, what a great idea!
        Also keep in mind that Atlus US worked with NISA to get Golden to Europe as fast as it did, so if they kill the us branch America is less likely to get the games, so the people not getting the games won’t get them any faster if at all.

        • mirumu

          Not to defend the troll, but Atlus USA has said many, many times their sole focus is the North American market. The bad reputation Atlus in general seems to have outside of Japan and the US comes from years of poor treatment so I don’t think it’s so surprising when some lash out.

          • Herok♞

            So with a sole focus being the North American market you would think a defined partner for Europe would have been made by now, but isn’t NISA trying to take that spot?

          • mirumu

            When it comes to European publishing partners Atlus has shopped around for years. NISA, Ghostlight, Zen United. Even SquareEnix. Last we heard the NISA partnership is still on a title-by-title basis.

            That said, I don’t think it’s a publishing partner Europe needs. It isn’t just like another part of America. They can’t just pass over an American English dub and call it localized. Europe traditionally has at least UK English, German, Spanish and French language support on all their discs. While an English translation certainly helps, American dubs can sound just as foreign to many as a Malaysian English dub would sound to an American.

      • TheExile285

        My god this is a petty reason.

        If want Japanese audio, import the Japanese games! Dual audio is NOT an industry standard.

        • Armane

          If you’re happy with a sub-par product, that’s fine. But don’t try and tell me I’m petty for wanting things to change for the better.

          • TheExile285

            Sub-par how? Because they voiced the game in English and sold it in English speaking areas?

            You are being nonsensical. A company should close and all employees should lose their jobs because Armane can’t have his way? I’ve never seen such a spoiled gamer before.

          • Armane

            It’s not sub-par because they voiced the game in English. It’s sub-par because they removed the original voices in favour of new ones, changing the tone and the script as they see fit.

            They are going to be sold off anyway. Whether as part of Atlus or as a separate entity, doesn’t matter, there will inevitably be job losses in this situation. The best thing for them would be for Atlus USA to die; because very few buyers are going to want a Japanese development studio AND a translation company.

            Perhaps I’m guilty of a little hyperbole in this thread, but there’s really no reason to get so irate.

          • M’iau M’iaut

            And changing tone and script is why it is called localization and not translation. What plays and makes sense as written in Tokyo might be too laughable, too offensive or simply not make a darn bit of sense as written in Peoria. How a character trope is portrayed in Japan may not be the same way that trope is portrayed in the States.

          • Armane

            Pretty sure that’s translation. Localisation is things other than the translation. Like changing currencies or altering date formats. Please don’t confuse the two in the future.

            I’m not arguing against translation, sometimes the script has to change for various reasons, but Atlus USA often is a little too liberal.

  • Isaac Newton

    I hope they would remain a third party after this struggle…

  • SirRichard

    I suppose with the fraud investigations this was basically inevitable given the rest of their debts. Given the recent explosion in popularity of their franchises and their generally good sales, I don’t see Atlus being abandoned any time soon.

    At the same time I don’t see Nintendo or Sony leaping in to snap them up or anything. It’ll probably be another general media firm who acquires them.

    • Jisgsaw

      I would love NIS to get them, but I highly doubt they have the money for it :-(

      • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

        Dear god, no. NIS can’t even sell their own games, forget selling something completely out of their element.

        edit: Whoops, sorry. I typed this up in a hurry so it might have come across as flippant/rude. Didn’t mean it that way!

        • Jisgsaw

          I should add: I’m European. So Nintendo would take forever to bring them over here (but translated though, but personaly I don’t care). Sony… I don’t know. Microsoft would also certainly bring them simultaneously in US/PAL, but god forbid they buy them…

          NIS on the other hand treated Europe rather well for the waiting times.

          • ronin4life

            I think Nintendo getting them would be better for Europeans; they seem to have gotten a lot better as of late with the european market, in my opinion to “Justify” their region locking…

            You guys have a whole host of games releasing weeks ahead of the us and many have had great pre order bonuses to boot…>.>

          • Solomon_Kano

            Hell, they even get Bravely Default this year while we’re somewhere in 2014. ;_;

          • shadowind

            And that’s why I like Nintendo of Europe! After all, we got the Project Rainfall games before you guys PLUS we got awesome Special Editions as well! ^_^

          • Solomon_Kano

            Yea, y’know, don’t gloat or anything. ;_;

        • Nitraion

          Lol your comment is so mean XD

        • Nightmare637

          ouch lol don’t hold back or anything.

        • Arcana Wiz

          You know that hurts more when you realize that is the truth, hope NIS can overcome this situation.

          • DesmaX

            I do (like to) believe that NIS is in this situation because their games genre are too niche, and confusing for people to get interested (plus, the sub par graphics). I mean, a game like Guided Fate Paradox makes people confused when they look at some gameplay videos.

            Hopefully The Witch and a Hundred Knights will actually sell well, since it’s an Action RPG (People know the genre pretty well) and it has good graphics.

            I mean, hell, it’s trailer is by far the most watched video in NIS Channel, and that was released 2 weeks ago:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2SCNf-45LQ

            (And that’s totally not because I watch it everyday… That music is soooo good)

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            NIS is a joke at this point, even in Japan. They’ve pigeonholed themselves into that otaku market so firmly that no one outside of that demographic really seems to care what they do.

            Witch and Hundred Knights does look cool, though. I hope that can break the Disgaea curse.

          • DesmaX

            b… but
            Oh well, seeing what they did with Disgaea D2 (And even GFP), I really can’t disagree with you…

            But I just hope Hundred Knights do well. I miss “darker” JRPG like this

          • Shady Shariest

            As much as i love Disgaea’s you are absolutely right… Good to see you are calm on this…After just reading about how you are an Atlus-fan today :)

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            I love Atlus! I’d follow them anywhere. They’re one of the very few remaining JRPG devs I have a lot of respect for. :)

          • Shady Shariest

            …I just have a bad feeling that that “Everywhere” will be sprung to it’s fullest extent :/

      • Ni

        For god sake no! MS, NIS and Compile Heart need to not get involved in this

        • RoxasTheUnknown1

          I love C.H but lets be real. They couldn’t even if they wanted. NIS maybe but like Ishaan said on much less jerk level, NIS hasn’t been selling like hotcakes lately or bringing stuff out.

          • Ni

            Why everyone who say anything that isn’t “i like CH stuff” about CH is a jerk here? I only have said that they need to not get involved in this. And yeah! NIS can’t sell anything that isn’t Disgaea and even that don’t have SMT level of sales or the sales of others Atlus franchises. I just don’t want them to be turned into a otaku centric game company (and this is from a guy that really like the Neptunia games and have really liked the otaku centric culture for years). I just want them to stay as a 3rd party company if they can’t stay as a 3rd party the best would be that Nintendo or Sony buy them

          • RoxasTheUnknown1

            I didn’t mean to come across as a jerk but the article or even people did not mention C.H. You are implying that if C.H could/did buy Atlus, that they would damage all of Atlus’s brands which totally hypothetical situation but considering how C.H is all about doing what they want I’d have to disagree with. It’s all silly talk though because C.H CAN’T buy them. xD Even C.H parent company I.F couldn’t.

      • Fidelis

        I love N1 one as much as the next guy but…

        wat

    • Byas

      I hope so, although Sony or Nintendo getting it would mean that I would get both their portables and home consoles no matter what, I still think Atlus is better off as a “free company” developing for any console they see fit for the game.

      • Tincho D

        If worst comes to worst, better Sony or Nintendo than Microsoft.

        Japanese developers for japanese publishers.

    • https://twitter.com/Ni_Go_Zero_Ichi Project 2501

      I can sort of see Nintendo or Sony picking them up – especially Nintendo, given their recent close relationship – but yeah, it will likely be another media firm.

  • Pockystix

    it’s tough pill to swallow if they are either bought out by Nintendo or Sony (and god forbid, Microsoft, mainly because it pretty much will single out there sales.

    On the other hand, it’s a scary thing to lose Atlus, since there aren’t enough popular RPG devs around like this anymore. Losing them is far more of a big loss to the industry, then them being single-platform.

    there’s always the possibility for PC, but that’s really not their field anymore. there’s a funny though, Valve buys them! (next persona game will come out when episode 3 comes out!)

    • malek86

      What is PC supposed to be? Valve?

      Edit: ok fine, I’ll let you off because you edited :P

      • Pockystix

        that is what I said in the comment lol

    • Jesse Thompson

      My one and only hope out of this news is that Persona 5 does not get delayed too much because of it. It would be the end of an era for RPGs if this series suddenly ground to a halt because of fraud…

  • Nitraion

    Hope just for best to you Atlus…
    just stay 3rd party okay….

  • Ni

    Microsoft stay away from this. STAY AWAY FROM THIS!

    • Franggio Hogland

      Tbh as Microsoft sales are lousy in Japan and Atlus’ games sell best there I think even Microsoft would see this as a to big of a risk.

    • komiko12

      Frankly, I don’t think they would be interested in the first place.

      • Ni

        Well we never know. MS can pretty much buy them and make them work only on kinect stuff.

        • raitouniverse

          So can Nintendo.

          • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

            Yeah they’re already doing a collaboration.

        • The Watcher

          how narrow your mind is. do you even know how the industry works? No? well okay then. stop making a fool out of yourself. lol

          • TheExile285

            Next time, instead of being snappy, why not it explain it to him?

      • KetsuSan

        If they want to push XB1 units overseas in the east, YES, YES THEY WOULD.

        • ChiffonCake

          Considering that the Xbone won’t even work at launch on east Asian countries, I think that’s unlikely.

        • Tincho D

          Xbox will never win in Japan anyway.
          If Microsoft buys Atlus they’re dead to me.

      • Arcana Wiz

        In the beginning of the xbox 360 life they tried with the japan with timed jrpg exclusives, now they can try to gather japan audience buying a popular game devoloper, maybe?

        realize what i wrote… How can i have such filthy thoughts (slaps myself and hides in a corner)

    • XypherCode

      Hahaha

    • qchto

      shhhhhh.. quiet! they can be listening!

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/xxHiryuuxx Tohsaka

      Could be worse. Could be EA. Can you imagine what would happen if that was a thing? A bud and I did and we came up with some examples:

      FIFA x SMT – Mara kicking the balls.
      SMT being a yearly release.
      Persona being the next CoD.

      I laughed and then I didn’t laugh because I remember this is EA that we’re talking about and this would easily happen.

      • TheExile285

        Does EA care about Japan?

    • konsama

      What about square-enix? We totally need more cloud-clones in my Megaten games! And an iOS game too!

      • LightningFarron19

        Actually, Square has only “cloned” Cloud two times.

        Cloud – 1997

        Squall- 1998

        Lightning- 2009

        If anything, you should watch out for the Sephiroth clones:

        Sephiroth – 1997

        Kuja – 2000

        Seymour – 2002

        Advent Children – 2008

        Caius Ballad – 2011

        • Pockystix

          wouldn’t call Kuja a clone of Sephi. He kinda feels more like a mix of the Emperor from II with a small dash of Kelfka (obviously, he lacks Kelfka’s severe case of ‘doesn’t give a f*ck’).

          as for cloud, squall is more or less what people assume cloud was like (and how he became thanks to the KH series), and lightning was basically Square trying to genderswap him. . . using the KH characterization nonsense all over again lol

        • konsama

          I agree, except cloud and lightning haven’t appeared in just one game, especially cloud.

          • $1484028

            that’s not a clone then.

            the old “Cloud clone” accusation is the frankly blatantly untrue claim that Square keeps creating protagonists that are exactly like Cloud, which they don’t.

            even Squall and Lightning are frankly a stretch to call real “clones” (mostly because they both had far more characterization than Cloud really had)

            but either way, 3 games is not “Square keeps making Cloud clones”, and character cameos aren’t “cloud clones” either.

        • http://www.ihasnowebsitez.com Satonaka CP-Four

          WOuldnt call Squall a clone of Cloud either but that’s coming from a fan of 8 here.

    • http://www.falgram.com/ Falmung

      If anyone were to buy it it would be japanese companies and probably some that would be interested on their RPGs. Square Enix, Nintendo, Sony are all likely candidates. Nintendo already bough Monolith so Atlus could be another strong provider.

    • Tincho D

      I hope neither Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo buys Atlus.
      Sega and western publishers can go fuck themselves too.

      Bamco could be fine. Capcom is too obsessed with getting the Cod audience like to put it to good use. Konami a shit.

  • Franggio Hogland

    Valve should buy it.
    They want Japanese games, we want more RPGs on PC.
    They are a good nurturing company.
    I reckon they wouldn’t tie it to a single platform so no exclusives.

  • ChiffonCake

    I really wouldn’t mind if either Nintendo or Sony got Atlus. Most of their games are already exclusive anyway. Plus, I’m reminded of how well Nintendo’s been doing with Monolith…

    Either way, I just hope everything turns out ok for them.

    • Freud_Hater

      Just wait, they’ll be bought back by Microsoft and they’ll make all their games Xbone exclusives XD

      • RisukuAozora

        Please tell me you’re trolling… Like with the case of Rare, Microsoft would be the worst thing that happen to it.

        • DesmaX

          Persona 5 F2P. Only 1 persona available for free, the other ones are paid DLC

          • Solomon_Kano

            Social links must be purchased separately.

          • Colonel Custard

            Live action tv series coming soon.

          • Arcana Wiz

            kinect features confirmed to summon personas/ social links.

          • ChiffonCake

            Persona 3 rerelease for the Xbone. Now you can finally use your own evoker!

          • Guest

            *walks into a public area then yells persona! And shoots head with evoker*

            that would cause mass panic and probably get the persona series banned from NA

          • Solomon_Kano

            Beat a boss to unlock an episode!

          • DesmaX

            You can use Smart glass features to call out a Megidolaon

          • Solomon_Kano

            Play the Windows Phone spin-off to unlock new equipment.

        • Freud_Hater

          I am just trolling, but if I were in MS’ shoes after the Xbone announcement disaster, I’d do anything I can to piss off as many fans as possible ^^’

  • Nightmare637

    I hope they stay third party personally.

    • Hraesvelgr

      Hell yes. The begging for Sony to buy them and dumping on the idea of any other company in existence grabbing them up is pitiful to watch. I really doubt Sony and Microsoft are particularly interested, and I don’t really see Nintendo buying them, either. Frankly, any of the big three buying them and making them go exclusive is bad news for everyone.

      • Sardorim

        Lesser of many evils, I would rather Sony gets them than Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Microsoft, or the such.

        • Aesma

          …to be honest, those companies have a very small chance of taking Atlus. Most likely it will be Japanese company, Tecmo Koei, Nippon Ichi, Sony, Nintendo and so on.

      • Sean

        Well considering Nintendo is doing a collaboration with Atlus at the moment….I wouldn’t say there was no chance of them being interested in buying Atlus. Collaboration is a pretty big seal of approval.

  • Grape Monet

    Please don’t cancel Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. That’s all I ask.

    • http://linkapics.tumblr.com/ Linka

      I feel that one will be safe really since Nintendo is most likely financially backing it.

  • z_merquise

    I really hope Atlus can get out of this mess. It wasn’t their fault that this happen.

    Also, if being bought is the only way, I hope it’s a reliable company. Also a 3rd party so they can work on any consoles they wanted.

    EDIT:
    The animation studio Madhouse was owned by Index too, right?

    Also hoping that nothing bad happen to them as well in the future.

    • qchto

      the thing is: which company would be the better candidate?
      ms, nintendo and sony are out of discussion. also, i don’t think any non-japanese company would buy them. and don’t forget we should be talking about “big players”.
      so, that leaves us with a few options: square enix, capcom, sega and konami, and even though i like most of their games i don’t see they managing any atlus ip as atlus itself (and god forbid that some of their current policies get applied on games like smt). so, this is indeed very sad.
      that said, i really hope atlus can get out of this by itself and keep its own property.

      • Aesma

        …Nippon Ichi? …I wonder why people never include NIS to options… Is there some kind of ‘Ignore NIS’ here? Or is there a reason why they couldn’t take Atlus?

        • Solomon_Kano

          http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/27/atlus-parent-company-files-for-bankruptcy/#comment-944275590

          First it’s a question of can NIS afford Atlus. After that, it becomes “can they benefit Atlus?” Based on everything they’ve done other than Disgaea this gen, I’d say no.

          • Aesma

            Ah, I see… Thanks for the explanation…

            Well, to be honest, technically speaking it seems that in Japan (or at least the otaku fandom), they are doing well, with many Neptunia games and the anime. Though that’s technically not all NIS…

          • M’iau M’iaut

            The audience with which they are ‘doing well’ is exactly the concern for many. Neptune basically sells the same numbers now that the first game did and their TokiTowas and Mugen Souls do far less than those. P3 and P4 found traction and fans outside the otakus and Atlus games have production values far above most NIS/NISA titles. Folks don’t want to see a regression in focus or quality.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Unfortunately for them, NIS doesn’t publish Neptunia in Japan. They only localize the games. Compile Heart’s been making a killing in the otaku market, but people have been ignoring the new stuff NIS has tried to do. It’s kinda sad, because none of it looks bad.

          • Aesma

            You mean Guided Fate Paradox and Witch and Hundred Knights?

          • Solomon_Kano

            Well, Witch and Hundred Knights isn’t out yet (or did I miss it?), but, yea, Guided Fate Paradox didn’t do very well in Japan.

          • Aesma

            I see… and no, you didn’t miss it, I assumed you mean the trailers that’s why I suggested the two titles above.

        • qchto

          i had just checked your reply, and even if its a little too late, i wanted to address why did i exclude it from the list, and being fair it has a very simple answer: i wasn’t aware of NIS, at least, i wasn’t aware of it being as big as the others i mentioned.
          and basically, this is because of 2 things:
          1. i’m relatively new to jrpgs, and even when i have heard about games as disgaea or atelier, i still haven’t had the chance to play them. and,
          2. NIS is relatively new (founded in 1994) for me to remember, while the companies i mentioned have being around since the 8-bit era at least (considering also that square and enix were 2 companies, but also existed back then), and also its a company very centered in rpgs, maybe the reason why i never really put more attention to it before.
          so, i meant no disrespect to that company in any way, and i’m glad to hear that there are more options other than the ones that i mentioned. and thanks for reminding me about NIS and its games.

          • Aesma

            I see… thanks for the explanation…

    • Guest

      MarvelousAQL buying Atlus would be great, they could force Atlus to bring more of their Megaten games over

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        Xseed powaa

  • maxobiwan

    ATLUS : If you want to spend less money, just stop english dubs. It’s too expensive and some people hate this so much, they don’t buy.

    • RoxasTheUnknown1

      *facepalm* Atlus is MAKING money. Index is the one in trouble. This has nothing to do with dubs which for the record I like.

    • Tigoner37

      This whole ordeal comes from shady business performed by the higher ups at Index, so I don´t see your point.

    • nonamekeyblade

      im love jap dub too.but i dont know if i want to laugh or pacepalm when i read your statement.

    • Herok♞

      You know the majority of consumers, prefer having something in there native language?

      • mirumu

        That’s true. It’s probably also why dub hate seems stronger outside of America.

    • https://twitter.com/RaiohV Raioh

      Dude, you’ve won. Your comment is so ridiculous that Luna had no other choice than make me post this here~
      http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/wtf/incredibly-stupid.gif

      • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

        Luna? :o I miss her. :(

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      As much as I would love Atlus to stop being so dub-only, your comment makes no sense since Atlus is doing fine, plus, that’s Atlus USA who handles the dubbing, not Atlus Japan.

    • M’iau M’iaut

      In the future please take misinformed and pure flamebait comments to other sites. Thanks and warned.

    • Ni

      oh come on
      japanese VAs fanatics already?

      • Bigabu Beaze

        Doesnt it cost money to use Japanese voices anyway? Its not like they get them for free dude.

        • Nightmare637

          yep licensing fees which supposedly cost the same as an english dub.(not completely sure on this)

          • M’iau M’iaut

            Atlus USA has been very much an open book on the mess that is the JP audio side of things. What they would like and what they can are different things.

        • Arcana Wiz

          Yes, and if the voice actor is famous in Japan (there they valorize A LOT voice actors) it can be the same cost of dubbing.

      • M’iau M’iaut

        Sadly he is not the only one posting similar sparks of business brilliance declaring JP-only audio as the savior of the company. Somehow it makes sense to those folks — don’t ask me for an explanation.

      • shadowind

        When it comes to voice acting in videogames, I don’t believe in the JP-only/English-only bullshit that some people are into when it comes to that sort of thing as I’m a dual-audio kind of person. When it comes to voice-acting, I couldn’t a damn if the voices are in English or Japanese, just as long as the game is good!

    • Dede Ogbe

      what a moron….

    • Nitraion

      Huh?

    • Arcana Wiz

      What? I dont even know how to respond this…..

  • kylehyde

    It’s times like this I wish I were a religious man
    http://i.imgur.com/cuhc5.jpg

    Being serious, I hope Atlus can surpass this situation it would be very sad to lost an awesome company. I hope they can stay independent as a third party. My support to the developers and the localization team.

  • puchinri

    I’m wondering. . . Index bought Atlus before, it wasn’t always part of the company, right? (That was like a couple of years ago?)

    Do we know the financial situation of Index then? Or how long ago these fraud investigations are going back to? I’m wondering if they bought Atlus while in such a messy situation and didn’t at all consider that this could happen or what would come of Atlus.

    • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

      Wondering this myself.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      No, Atlus was always owned by Index. Just that Index dissolved Atlus as a separate entity and made them an internal division.

      • puchinri

        Ahhh, okay. I couldn’t remember everything that went on then very clearly. Thanks, ishaan.

        • Solomon_Kano

          As a correction, not always. Atlus was acquired by Index in 2006. Prior to that they were owned by Takara (2003), prior to that they were their own entity.

          http://web.archive.org/web/20100221042851/http://www.atlus.co.jp/ir/history/index.html

          That said, they have been part of Index longer than most people actually note. As Ishaan said, they became an internal division a couple years ago, and that’s typically where people note the beginning of their ownership by Index.

          • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

            Right, I could’ve worded that more clearly. I meant they were already owned by Index prior to being assimilated into the main company.

          • puchinri

            Ahhh~! I see now. I thought I remembered them being their own thing waay back in the day (when they were first starting) but that maybe I remembered wrong. Okay, thanks for that clarification.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Well, no, you remembered right. They were their own thing originally. From their start in 1986 up until Takara bought them in 2003. Then from there they became part of Index, and now we’re here.

            But no prob.

  • Alien

    I wonder if nintendo would be interested in picking up atlus. I think it would be a good move on their part.

  • Laith Rem

    Before we continue posting, just a friendly remainder.

    The company that is struggling is Index. Yes, Atlus is part of Index and it will be affected, true. But the ones that should be pulling their weight are the Index people. Atlus is doing, relatively, well.

  • DCBlackbird

    damn this just got me wondering about THQ and the fate of Aidyn Chronicles…….

  • Alicemagic

    These… are dark times.
    Times with no hope.

  • Phoenix_Apollo

    Hopefully Atlus can just reemerge as an indie company again. They did better on their own.

  • Tyler Beale

    Let Atlus be their own company….Don’t get SE involved…

  • Michael Connell

    Please don’t let EA, Capcom or Square Enix get this

  • http://epiclyamazing.wordpress.com/ AzureNova

    ATLUS just needs to be their own Parent Company lol.

    • Riseabovethesky

      It’s hard to grow up :(

  • TheExile285

    If someone were to buy them, I really hope they would be able stay 3rd party…

  • Arcana Wiz

    i hope atlus continue to be third party:

    If Nintendo buys them what will happen to persona 5? and atlus publishes great games in sony plataforms too.

    If sony buy them SMT X FE wont happen, and the majority of SMT fans are owners of 3ds and wii U.

    • Nightmare637

      wii? 3DS I get but where did you wii from?

      • Arcana Wiz

        well a great number of 3ds owners own wii U.

        • Nightmare637

          oh you ment wii U, I thought you were talking about the wii(no U) yeah I can see SMT fans getting a wii U just for SMT X FE.(me included)

          • Arcana Wiz

            Yep. I forgot the “U”, when you type fast that happens sometimes.

        • kylehyde

          That’s not necessarily true, I know a lot of people who own a 3DS but don’t have a Wii U or/and don’t want to purchase one, even I don’t see me on the near future adquiring one, but as soon as bayonetta 2 and/or X gets released then I will buy one.

    • RisukuAozora

      If Nintendo buys them, then it’d probably just show up on 3DS or Wii U, not a big loss really.

      • Arcana Wiz

        Yeah but persona 5 is already in deveploment for ps3 for quite a time, if they move to the 3ds, i dont think they can recycle the resources, so it will be probably delayed a couple of years.

        • Solomon_Kano

          Persona 5′s work could probably pretty easily be moved to Wii U. Moving an HD console game to 3DS would be silly, but to another HD console would be (relatively) simple.

          • Arcana Wiz

            …..facepalm, forgot about wii U (no sarcasm).

          • Solomon_Kano

            It happens lol.

        • LightZero

          It’s not confirm for any system. I don’t know people keep pulling this out of their asses. The only thing that is confirm is that it will not use the Catherine engine.

          • Nightmare637
          • Solomon_Kano

            Not a good source.

            But, to play devil’s advocate, the last mention of “the next Persona” came at the Playstation Awards, so it’s likely in development for some Sony platform.

          • Nightmare637

            he did ask where they were getting it from so I gave him an answer. :)

          • Solomon_Kano

            Fair enough.

      • CirnoTheStrongest

        I’d consider it a big loss….Well, WiiU might be okay. But 3DS would not be.

  • FitzpatrickPhillips

    #panic

  • Aldorr

    IMHO NamDai will step up and buy Atlus if it will be needed

    • LightZero

      Eh…if they do then we can say good bye to having most of the future megaten games localize.

      • Aldorr

        Not so long ago we could say the same for Tails of … series

      • Solomon_Kano

        Come on, now. Be fair. Namdai’s improved greatly over the past year. Graces f, Ni no Kuni, Project X Zone, the upcoming Xillia and Sypmhonia Chronicles.

        If this was a few years ago, I’d have agreed, but Namdai’s certainly proven themselves better than that now.

    • SetzerGabbiani

      Would be a homecoming for MegaTen since the IP was theirs back in the 80′s when they were Namcot.

  • Solomon_Kano

    Shit just got real.

    It should be interesting to see where Atlus ends up now. I don’t see one of the big 3 scooping them up*, so it becomes a question of if they get taken in by another media firm or if another publisher seeks to absorb them.

    If it’s the latter… frankly speaking, none of Japan’s big publishers need Atlus and none of our western publishers would want them. Konami’s living off of MGS and Winning Eleven, Namdai’s got their own marquee RPG franchise, and Square Enix wouldn’t benefit from the acquisition. Now that just leaves Capcom. Capcom already dominates in Japan, so picking up a developer whose bread and butter is JRPGs wouldn’t particularly benefit them either.

    That takes us to some of the smaller names. Marvelous has slowly been building up their arsenal, GungHo’s been quietly scooping up some significant names. I don’t think either really has the means to pick up Atlus from Index. Edit: GungHo is owned by SoftBank. If SoftBank deems it a worthy purchase, there’s little GungHo CAN’T afford.

    So we get to media firms. Frankly, I’m not familiar with Japan’s media firms. The only one I’m really aware of is Kadokawa and, apart from their recent (and brief) partnership with Grasshopper, they haven’t published many games over the years. I don’t know that they’d be interested in acquiring a studio of Atlus’ size unless they’re going to seriously try and break into the gaming side of things now.

    *But I could certainly make a case for either Sony or Nintendo picking them up. It certainly wouldn’t be without benefit to them, anyway.

    Whew. Long post. I just think it’s interesting to ponder what this might lead to. Atlus is an attractive enough name that they certainly won’t die here. Perhaps they could even return to an independent company as they were before they became part of the Index family. Either way, I look forward to seeing how this develops.

    • malek86

      A scoop-up by a general media firm might be possible. For example, someone might want to acquire a developer to make games with their own franchises. In that case, the Atlus brand would help, and this being a bankruptcy situation, they could manage to get the company for a smaller price than usual.

      • Solomon_Kano

        Yea, that’d make sense. I just don’t know enough of Japan’s media firms to even speculate as to who might be interested in Atlus.

    • heartless141

      i’m smelling gungho will take them up. will not be surprised.

      • Solomon_Kano

        It would make sense with some of the other scoops they’ve made. I actually need to amend my post. If ANY of the likely suspects could afford Atlus, it’d be GungHo. I COMPLETELY forgot that they’re owned by SoftBank. They can definitely afford Atlus.

        So now it’s a question of interest.

        • heartless141

          didn’t they already bought grasshopper?

          • Solomon_Kano

            Yep, back in January. Far as games go, they own Grasshopper, Game Arts (Grandia), Acquire, and Gravity.

        • malek86

          I’m just not sure what Atlus could contribute to GungHo. They seem to be making it big with the casual market, which is about as far from Atlus’ usual output as possible.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Their purchase of Grasshopper and Acquire shows that they want more than just that casual market though. At least, I felt so. Atlus would be in line with their ownership of Game Arts.

            They also publish the SMT MMO currently, so getting the entire brand to themselves may interest them.

        • shadowind

          I wouldn’t be too surprised if they bought out Atlus considering they bloody own the likes of Acquire, Grasshopper and Gravity (as in the Ragnarok Online people), plus they themselves are owned by one of the biggest media conglomerates in Japan, but at the same time, as I said previously in a reply to another commenter, I could easily see Tecmo Koei, Namco Bandai or XSeed buying Atlus as well, but at the end of the day, as long as they treat Europe equally along with North America, in my opinion, I’m not bothered who buys them at the end of the day. And besides, think of the possible crossovers between Ragnarok and SMT… ^_^

          • Solomon_Kano

            Marvelous USA (Xseed) doesn’t have the cash to buy Atlus. They’re the localization division of a larger entity. Now MAQL proper may be able to afford Atlus, but we’ll see.

            Namdai can afford it, but it wouldn’t benefit them to buy Atlus. Atlus’ biggest series are SMT and Persona, which Namdai would have no need for since they have Tales, which is bigger than both.

            Tecmo Koei is a wildcard. They bought Gust out of the clear blue sky, so I’ve got no idea what they could do here.

            Of the four, GungHo is the most likely. It’d line up with their prior acquisitions and they’d stand to benefit significantly from having Atlus under their banner. It’d also be nice for them since they previously partnered with Atlus for SMT: Imagine.

    • Aunna Terrell

      lol, even though I know they haven’t done much with Atlus (outside releasing the two PS2 Persona 3s for Europe)… But I’d LOL hardcore if Tecmo Koei got them. XD

      • Solomon_Kano

        That would be so funny. I COMPLETELY forgot about TK.

        “As our first act as part of Tecmo Koei, we give you… PERSONA WARRIORS!”

        I can see it now lol.

        • DesmaX

          Persona X Atelier

          • Solomon_Kano

            SMT X Mana Khemia

          • Ni

            SMT, Persona, Devil Summoner and Devil Survivor characters in Musou Orochi 3

          • Aunna Terrell

            THIS was my initial thought!!

        • Mr_SP

          I can live with that. I mean, I just finished playing Persona Gear, and that wasn’t bad.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Persona Gear? Is that… Persona and Metal Gear? WHERE!?

          • Mr_SP

            …Er, Guilty Persona? BlazPersona? You know, the fighting game.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Aw. I got too hype. It’s just P4A lol.

      • shadowind

        It would definitely please me indeed if Tecmo Koei bought them and did a Warriors-type game based on Persona 4! ^_^

    • Ni

      I was thinking that Marvelous might want to team up with atlus and the two ending up producing SMT and/or others Atlus franchises. These two working together can create some interesting stuff.
      I was thinking about GungHo too but i don’t know much about them :/

      • Arcana Wiz

        Xseed (part of marvelous) with Atlus…. I like it.

      • Solomon_Kano

        I’m not really sure what to make of the possibility of Atlus getting picked up by Marvelous. Since their reformation as MAQL they haven’t developed a terrible lot of games, so I have to wonder if they even want something as big as Atlus in the family.

        Looking at their revenue next to Index’s though, they actually could probably afford them, I just don’t know that they’d want them.

    • Tarlol

      Probably the best post in this whole thread. More people should read this and understand there are a lot of potential outcomes here – lets not jump to conclusions.

      • Solomon_Kano

        Thanks for the compliment.

    • mirumu

      We could create a Kickstarter to buy out Atlus ourselves. Although setting up company documentation when there’s eleventy thousand whatever company directors could be amusing.

      I’d throw in $50.

      • Solomon_Kano

        If I set up the Kickstarter, can I be president? I don’t wanna do the paperwork though, so everyone else can be co-VP so they can handle it.

        No wait! We’ll start a petition! Those work.

        • mirumu

          We could have the opposite of Kickstarter rewards. Kickstarter punishments. Whoever pays the least has to handle all the documentation. That’d be a good incentive for people to increase their pledges.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Brilliant! We should tier it too, so we can divide up all the other stuff nobody wants to do either.

      • piichan

        So how much is the goal, and what about stretch goals?

        • mirumu

          Those are good questions. I have no idea on what Atlus might be worth on the market. That would require some research and maybe some discussion with the receivers at Index.

          As to stretch goals, well once we owned the company we could instruct them as to what games we wanted to make. More costly games to develop would of course require more cash. I’d be rather partial to Devil Summoner 3 myself or a sequel to Maken X/Maken Shou but of course that would be a decision for the backers.

  • laurenhiya21

    I really hope that Atlus won’t be affected too much :(
    (especially with Fire Emblem x MegaTen)

  • Ryudo9

    Nintendo might be the best option. People may freak out at that idea but not long ago they got Monolith Soft and MS loves it there. Nintendo gives them nice incentives. If Sony got them they would break them up as they have in the past. Also at this point Nintendo might have some incentive with SMT series being on 3DS and have SMT X Fire Emblem fate now in the air.

  • MrTyrant

    SMT x Sega: Not western release anymore
    SMT x Capcom: Huge amount of DLC incoming!
    SMT x EA: Persona Effect, ending will suck but you can download a better one. Multiplayer for everyone.
    SMT x Activition: Now everyone will be soldiers fighting againts terrorist, the final boss will be Allah
    SMT x NIS: Incoming DLC character and Laharl/Etna/Flonne cameos
    SMT x Nintendo: SMT character in smash and Mario in Persona. A possible SMT Emblem with the posibility of having demon waifus and half demon kids (would buy) be prepare for the DLC beach episode with Louisa in bikini.
    SMT x Ubisoft: Altair in Tokyo for the incoming Assasing Creed or probably some MMO.

    • LightGenx

      Can’t wait to buy that true ending!

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      Really biased there….
      If you’re going to include Ninty, why not the other big 3?

      • MrTyrant

        I didn’t say anything practically bad here and YOU think on something. I was running out of ideas lol and lot of people here are ninty lovers so…get offended. Although with microsoft I thought on something but I forgot while writing it.

        • Tylor Boreas Makimoto

          SMT X Sony: Game becomes a TPS with a linear, predictable storyline focussed mainly for the NA/EU regions

          SMT X Microsoft: Scrap all projects relating to eastern games, put them on an FPS about shooting demons in a distopian American town.

          • Testsubject909

            You do know that Sony owns many studios and the one you’re suggesting are the western studios and not the Japanese studios that would most likely be paired up with SMT if Sony took them.

            Meaning your example failed.

    • Mr_SP

      …Isn’t there already an SMT x Fire Emblem game planned?

      • MrTyrant

        And? I was talking about smt or persona secuel. Main games.

    • Aesma

      In your list, I support NIS and Nintendo!

      And seeing as NISA already released Atlus games in Europe, those in Europe should also be satisfied.

      We can see Disgaea and other NIS characters in Atlus games (I want to see Valvatorez!)

      With Nintendo, SMT with Fire Emblem elements (Which reminds me, does SMTxFE has confirmed their localization?) should be interesting but I guess we’ll see how SMTxFE turns out…

  • LightGenx

    *obligatory Persona 5 is dead comment*

  • http://vindictushots.tumblr.com/ Okuni-chan

    Read this and… (I’ve been visiting tumblr a little too much I think ^.^;)

    Edit: I can’t find one with a panic button D:

  • SupaPhly

    “Everything will be better” They said
    I remember that email from the Atlus newsletter

  • Surgeon of Death

    PERSONA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Betrayer

    Nintendo seems the most likely to me to pick them up.
    Bandai Namco I hope won’t they’re getting better with localization but it’s still slow.
    Techmo Koei or however you spell the name of the guys who picked up Gust might grab them as well though, that might not be to bad…

  • konsama

    This is just BS, Atlus is one of the really few game companies i like and even love, and now this happens, not even related to the game section and they getting hell too… T_T

  • solbalmung

    I pray to god that the ungoing developpement of Persona 5 on PS3 doesn’t get involved with this macabre news QQ

    • Solomon_Kano

      It’s not confirmed to be in development on any particular platform, just in development.

      • solbalmung

        True but still, most Persona games were out on Sony systems (PS1, PS2, PS Vita and only Arena was out on Xbox360 I think) so I assumed and I think most did too that it was in developpement for PS3. Maybe theres big chances that it’ll get out on the PS4 now but the Persona franchise were never about showing of new capabilites of next gen consoles or showing high end graphics.

        • Solomon_Kano

          If I had to bet what platform it’s for, my bet would be on a Sony one as well. Just noting that nothing official has been said in that regard.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    ……hey Nintendo get it before someONE else does …

  • Benny Tormoes

    Really sucks. however, maybe under a new publisher, atlus can stop screwing over europe every chance it gets. Just a thought.

    I would particularly love it if a mainstream company picks them up, still allows them to have creative freedom, just with wider simultaneous releases worldwide. That would be smashing.

    • shadowind

      I agree with you there (unlike some of the fanboys here!) that hopefully a new publisher will treat Europe better when it comes to Atlus releases what Atlus USA did in the past and now.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Except Atlus IS the publisher, so their parent company going under changes nothing.

      Unless they get bought by someone who already does better by Europe, this changes absolutely nothing for you. They still don’t have a European division.

      • Benny Tormoes

        Bloody well wish they had. This situation europe has with atlus positively blows. And old square isnt much better. Where the #### is chrono cross and xenogears, square???

  • shadowind

    As someone who’s known for his controversial views on Atlus and Index when it comes to the way they’ve treated Europe as an afterthought over the years, all I can say is: Karma is definitely a interesting thing indeed…

    I have a VERY tiny bit of sympathy for Atlus, but none at all for Index as they got what they deserved for breaking the laws concerning fraud in Japan.

    As for Atlus themselves, I’d rather have them bought out by GungHo or definitely TecmoKoei as I know they’d treat the European market with a lot more respect when it comes to Atlus games than Atlus USA ever did when it came to Europe! (especially TecmoKoei as I know they could do some seriously awesome stuff; marketing-wise in Europe!)

    Funnily enough, with Persona 4 the Arcade in the UK, the price has already gone down in less than a month of release to £20 brand-new for the PS3 version (which is what it should have been in the first place) at GAME as well as Grainger Games while Grainger Games are selling it preowned for £8 which ironically enough is the same price that I paid for a preowned near mint copy of Dead Rising 2 Zombrex Edition today at CEX! I will be buying a copy, but I’ll be waiting until a preowned copy is available at Grainger Games as my local branch has sold out of preowned copies! *sob*

    So I guess in this case, sales were shit for Persona 4 the Arena over here, if not the rest of Europe because there were so many people; myself included who were pissed off over the release fiasco concerning the game and who swore to wait until it went down in price to a more reasonable one!

    I guess at the end of the day, there’s two morals to this story: If you get caught defrauding people, you WILL get what you deserve and also if you treat one of the most important regions outside of your home region/Asia as a mere afterthought, you WILL get hated on big time!

    (Finally, to all those who hate my views on all things Atlus, I’m not going to change them at all, they still stand as they always have in the past and I’m not going to let some butthurt fanboys bully me into accepting their opinions. That, plus to paraphrase what somebody once said, “Your tears of anger and outrage only make me more stronger and more powerful!” ^_^)

    • Herok♞

      I don’t think poor sales of P4A in Europe hurt anyone except for Zen. Also Atlus hasn’t been as bad in Europe lately with Golden coming out really fast and you guys know alot of stuff is coming just not when.

      • shadowind

        Persona 4 the Golden actually came out almost half a year after the American release in Europe rather than in the same week as most niche games do.

        I can understand where you’re coming from when it comes to poor sales of P4A in Europe, but Atlus and Index have to take their share of blame as well because of their stupid fear of reverse importation whereas most publishers aren’t bothered if people import their games to other regions!

        • Herok♞

          Point is thats better then what you usually get dealing with atlus is that not right?

          • SirRichard

            “Better than nothing” still isn’t exactly good, mate, and it’s hardly something that can be attributed to Atlus when it was NISA who went to them and did the work.

          • Herok♞

            True but it does seem to be getting better for Europe but thats my opinion as a outsider, how do you feel about the future of Atlus releases in Europe outside the whole index thing?

          • SirRichard

            I’m actually feeling pretty good about them, provided this whole Index thing doesn’t bring up any issues for it. Seeing SMT IV confirmed at a Nintendo Direct earlier in the year had me actually cheer, and while they’re taking a rather long amount of time to bring them over, I can at least be thankful that NISA are actually bringing them over. Soul Hackers in September, Etrian Odyssey IV was supposed to be summer but seems to have slipped up, and if I remember right SMT IV was on track for this year.

            As you said, hell of a lot better than what we usually get, and I’m glad for it. Could still be better, but hey, getting there.

            EDIT: That said, getting kind of worried about Dragon’s Crown. Been absolutely no word on that one for us, and I really want to get it because delicious Vanillaware.

    • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

      Atlus USA is in charge of publishing in europe?

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      @ShawnOtakuSomething:disqus @Nightmare637:disqus @shadowind:disqus I’m going to ban all three of you if this “butthurt” nonsense doesn’t stop right now.

      • shadowind

        I’m willing to stop with the “butthurt” insults as long as the others are willing to stop being insulting towards me, just because I stated it was Index’s fault that they’re in the shit they’re currently in, and they didn’t seem to like the truth coming out.

      • Nightmare637

        wait a minute where did ShawnOtakuSomething say anything pertaining to butthurt? I dont’ think he has unless I’m missing something here.(I even checked his profile, nothin)

  • malaki7123 .

    And through this door, we have a video game publisher/hardware developer that has been having trouble drumming up sales figures recently…

    Oh, you just released a main entry in one of your flagship series on one of their devices and it did quite well? AND you have a crossover with one of their own series that just had a successful entry release in development as well? Tell me more…

    But seriously, I think that Atlus would be in excellent hands with Nintendo. Has SMTIV being 3DS exclusive hurt their potential sales numbers? This could be a big deal for Nintendo, who has Monolith Soft AND previously Mistwalker both create great games on their hardware.

    Nintendo has shown(and stated) that they are highly focused on delivering only quality with their releases, and are more than willing to hold off on a release to ensure a brand’s success. And many developers have stated that Nintendo really does a great job of working with them to get projects done. Who better to help Atlus get stuff out?

    I guess the other option would be Sony, and they wouldn’t be a bad fit either, although I don’t know that Atlus is really up for PS4 development. Square-Enix is a possibility and would likely jump at the chance to grab Atlus, but I don’t know how good I feel about them holding on to 4 of the bigger-selling RPG franchises out there.

    Anyway, this is all just assuming Atlus is looking to be bought.

  • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

    Well im certainly hoping Atlus pulls through and wherever they go they still keep their style and don’t get underutilized, hoping they give more worldwide support too

  • Colonel Custard

    And now for some “Light” humor cause this comment section is too dam tense. http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/211/b/7/mitsuru_by_alphatango-d427bbn.jpg

  • Michael Connell

    Any chance Atlus and Xseed could merge?

    • shadowind

      I’d rather have XSEED or Tecmo Koei or GungHo buy them outright than a merger, to be honest.

    • Solomon_Kano

      None. Marvelous USA (Xseed) is one, small part of a larger entity.

      Now if Marvelous AQL proper bought Atlus, certainly Atlus USA and Marvelous USA would become one entity.

  • http://tos.revasser.net/ Taylor

    “less than expected sales in foreign territories.”
    I’m going to be stingy as usual and blame the 3DS and P4A region lock. I wonder how many more sales they got on non-locked games thanks to importers?

    On the other hand, what else does Index own? The sales might apply more to other companies.

    • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

      Let’s not start the crazy talk about region lock affecting sales again, please.

      • Enzo

        +1 for that.

      • Ferrick
      • mirumu

        I agree with you, but do keep in mind that Atlus themselves consider region locking to have an effect on sales hence their justification for using it on P4A.

        If we could all agree it was crazy talk we’d be in a better place.

        • Aesma

          …ironically… I thought the one of the reason why Project X Zone managed to be localized is because of Region Lock… Seeing as the first game wasn’t localized… I could be wrong though but I thought that Region Lock actually encourages localization…

          • mirumu

            The first game, Namco X Capcom, was on the Playstation 2. All PS2 games were region locked so that can’t be the reason it wasn’t localized.

            I don’t think there’s any evidence for region locking affecting either sales or localizations. You definitely find a few importers on sites like this, I import a lot of games myself, but I think we’re a very small market at the end of the day and our effect on game sales in each region is fairly insignificant. Suggesting otherwise is the “crazy talk” Ishaan mentioned.

            Besides, importers don’t just import games. They import consoles too. I don’t live in the US, but my 3DS is a US model so the region lock still wouldn’t stop me from importing Project X Zone if I wanted to.

          • Aesma

            PS2 were region locked? That’s news to me…
            I seemed to recall my friend’s PS2 being able to play EUR and USA Nocturne…

            Well… I also don’t live in US but have US model of 3DS

          • mirumu

            The PS1 was region locked as well. A lot of importers had mod chips installed in those consoles though which neutralised the region lock.

          • Aesma

            Oh that explains why mine can only play US while his can play Japanese, USA, Europe

      • http://tos.revasser.net/ Taylor

        Yeah, I realise it’s …probably not that.

        I just hope the owned companies can get out of this unscathed. It doesn’t seem like Atlus is at risk…

  • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com/ SoulArbiter

    This is rather depressing news hit me first thing in the morning. Atlus have always put out games I’ve liked. It’s a bloody shame for this to have happened to them.

  • Prinnydoom

    This came completely out of nowhere or at least thats what it seemed like. I suppose it goes to show that a company can sink quite easily if the wrong steps are taken. Out of curiosity does anyone know if this well effect SMT: IV at all in US and EU?

    • shadowind

      Hopefully it shouldn’t affect the game’s release in the USA and especially EU, seeing as it’s NOE who’s handling the release here.

    • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

      Don’t think it came out of nowhere it was announced a few weeks back that index was under investigations most people worried this would happen, as for their games I think Atlus said their current projects wouldn’t be affected by this but it’s uncertain for the time being at least

  • Ferrick

    Obligatory no button for everyone here

    http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

  • http://LevelUpGeneration.blogspot.com/ KALiverin

    I’m not worried. I’m quite optimistic that things will turn out fine and I have a good feeling that they will anyways. I only recently started getting into Shin Megami Tensei, so I’d love to see this series continue.

    • Haku_Luvs_You

      Agreed. I think things will be fine. By the way which Mega Ten games have you started playing?

      • http://LevelUpGeneration.blogspot.com/ KALiverin

        I tried out Nocturne last year. I didn’t have much time for it though. I got to the first Fiend battle and he pretty much wiped me out, haha. I didn’t figure out how to beat him until a few weeks ago when I finally learned how the press turn system worked. I’ll get back to it eventually because it’s pretty awesome. I also beat Soul Hackers a couple of months ago and I recently started playing Digital Devil Saga.

  • PoweredByHentai

    I can see Tecmo Koei and maybe Marvelous AQL being potential suitors for Atlus.

    Both of them could really make use of Atlus USA’s localization prowess. Either that or Atlus goes completely independent.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Marvelous already has Marvelous USA though.

      • PoweredByHentai

        Sure, they could still leverage Atlus to cover external localizations while Marvelous USA covers internal localizations.

        • Solomon_Kano

          True. If anything though, I’d reverse that. If they acquired Atlus, the bulk of their internal games would come from Atlus, so might as well keep Atlus USA on localizing the internal stuff. They can handle Atlus-developed games and MAQL-developed games.

          Marvelous USA doesn’t really have the manpower to handle Atlus’ level of output, so I’d stick them on the external stuff.

  • Magnumsally

    the best we could hope for is nintendo

    They allow jrpg studios to be nurtured, they like jrpgs

    • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

      This will the best thing since they bought Monolith.

    • PoweredByHentai

      I’m personally opposed to any console manufacturer picking up Atlus because it will inevitably lead to console exclusivity on platforms that I may not be willing to support.

      A different publisher picking up Atlus would be for the best since it would leverage existing Atlus resources.

      • Magnumsally

        they basically already are exclusive to nintendo portables

        • PoweredByHentai

          No they aren’t.

          Catherine and Persona series say hi.

          • Magnumsally

            2 games out of 20+ is statistically nothing

          • Nightmare637

            actually it’s statistically 10%.

          • PoweredByHentai

            20+ of what?

            By what bullshit criteria are you using to base your judgment on?

          • mirumu

            You can’t claim “statistically” anything when you’re just making up numbers.

            Atlus have only developed four games for the 3DS, and have one in development for the Wii U.

            If you count Catherine and the Persona series alone you’d get to similar numbers. Don’t forget P4A and Persona 2: EP after all.

            If you’re also counting things like Code of Princess that Atlus only publish, it only adds two games for the 3DS and nothing for the Wii U.

            The amount of games they published for other platforms however is quite significant. Divinity II, King of Fighters XIII, Game of Thrones, The Testament of Sherlock Holmes, Zeno Clash 2. There’s also Dragon’s Crown on the way. That’s not even a complete list. They even published Demon Souls.

          • Haku_Luvs_You

            Why are you comparing WiiU numbers with PS3? I mean I could do the same and say PS4 has 0 games from Atlus, and Wii had 9. You’re comparing a system with completely different life spans and act like it’s such a shock PS3 has more games on it.

          • Solomon_Kano

            That’s not the point of the post. The poster mirumu’s responding to is saying that they’re basically exclusive to Nintendo and citing “statistics”. The point of mirumu’s post is that those so-called “statistics” aren’t accurate, and the citations are to show how many games they’ve published on other platforms recently compared to Nintendo’s stable. The Wii U’s lifespan is irrelevant to that point.

            Also, your example isn’t comparable as the PS4 isn’t actually out, while the Wii U is.

          • Haku_Luvs_You

            That’s not the point of my post either……^

          • Solomon_Kano

            I’m just saying you could have picked a system that sits parallel to those years to get better numbers.

            You questioned her comparing the PS3 and Wii U’s number of Atlus games due to the Wii U having been out less time. That’s what I said the point of your post was and that’s what your last reply says it was as well.

            But that’s irrelevant to what she was saying, as she didn’t name any specific platform, just non-Nintendo Atlus games in general because the poster said Atlus’ output favors Nintendo. She compared what they’ve done on Nintendo’s current platforms to other current platforms.

          • mirumu

            I didn’t mention the PS3 at all.

            Magnumsally claimed 90% of Atlus’ games are on Nintendo systems. I’m merely suggesting that’s ridiculous. Even if you only look at games released in the last two years it’s ridiculous.

            Edit: Also to be clear, I have nothing against the Wii U. I own one along with a 3DS. I also own most of those games Atlus developed for the 3DS and will buy SMT X FE as well.

          • Haku_Luvs_You

            I know he’s not accurate. But still, You picked Demon Souls which was 2008-09? and went to Dragons Crown which is 2013. WiiU has been out from 2012-13. I’m just saying you could have picked a system that sits parallel to those years to get better numbers. It just confused me……

          • mirumu

            I only mentioned Demon Souls really as an example of the wide variety of games Atlus publish, not as some one-for-one comparison with Nintendo releases. If we went down that path there’d be a lot more games mentioned all round.

            I don’t think console life spans are especially relevant to the debate either. The Wii U might be new, but so is the Vita. Pick a year, any year, and compare. Atlus have consistently supported a wide array of platforms and still do. There certainly hasn’t been any sudden trend showing them moving towards Nintendo exclusivity.

          • Haku_Luvs_You

            How are life spans not relevant? Don’t people buy more systems as the years pass? Or do we just go by first sales and then nobody buys those systems anymore?

          • Nightmare637

            who mentioned sales?

          • mirumu

            How are console life spans relevant to Magnumsally’s claim that only “2 games out of 20+” are on non-Nintendo platforms?

            Even if we count every Atlus release on every console Nintendo has ever made and compare numbers with every Atlus release on every non-Nintendo gaming system ever made you won’t end up with that ratio.

          • Haku_Luvs_You

            I never said it would! Please point out when I said this idiot was right!? In fact if you look two comments above I believe the words “I know he’s not accurate” came out of my mouth. I never once agreed with that guy!

          • mirumu

            Right, then I don’t really see what we’re disagreeing about then.

    • Nightmare637

      The best we could hope for is that they stay third party.

  • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

    So Atlus is up for grabs now? I hope a competent and respectful company picks them up. Nintendo seems like a good choice, they already have good relations with each other.

  • Warboss Aohd

    hmmm…….what if someone we aren’t considerin’ buyz dem instead o’ any o’ da onez we think would.

    someone otha den Nintendo, Sony, Mircrosoft, or even Square Enix an’ NIS.

    what if someone…….someone no one suspectz buyz Atlus?

  • Yoona

    The only companies from Japan I would like to take Atlus are Konami and Sony. They seem like the only ones that would give Atlus its freedom to choose their projects.

    Nothing against Nintendo, quite the contrary, but being most Atlus games for a very specific crowd, I doubt they would ever localize anything.

    • Magnumsally

      1) Sony had rpg ip’s. They stopped doing rpgs because they didnt think they would appeal mainstream. The sony of today would never localize a jrpg

      2) Nintendo has teamed this gen with level 5, namco, sega, mistwalker, square, ect SPECIFICALLY to localize jrpgs. They still care about them, hence why this year you are seeing fire emblem, mario & luigi, pokemon, ect.

      3) Nintendo has localized more titles between the ds/wii than almost any other individual developer of last gen.

      I like sony. But they wouldnt no what to do with atlus

      • sandra10

        “Nintendo has teamed this gen with level 5, namco, sega, mistwalker, square, ect SPECIFICALLY to localize jrpgs.”

        …this is news to me. I know there’s Bravely Default and that NoE published TLS but what did they help the rest bring? I can’t even think of a recent localized JRPG from Level-5 besides Ni no Kuni.

        Also, quantity of localized games doesn’t matter much if there’s little text that needs translating (which is the case for quite a few Nintendo published games). But none of the first party publishers should be touching Atlus because none of them are good fits.

        • Magnumsally

          They helped bring over 3 dragon quest games, 3 inazuma eleven games, solatorobo for namco,

          “quantity of localized games doesn’t matter much if there’s little text that needs translatin” I was just speaking rpgs, sorry if that was confusing.

          Atlus and nintendo are currently in a deal for SMT X FE. Its in nintendos best interest

          • sandra10

            Oh, more NoE stuff.

            It’s not in Nintendo’s best interest to buy a niche publisher. It’s not in Atlus’s best interest since Nintendo doesn’t have a problem w/axing niche series. That’s what they were considering doing with Fire Emblem before they upped the pandering and streamlined it, something I don’t want to see more of from Atlus.

          • Magnumsally

            Buying monolith did pretty well for them.

            Nintendo didnt axe fire emblem though, that was just a rumor. How did they streamline it? By adding an optional mode? thats adding features not subtracting

          • Solomon_Kano

            That wasn’t a rumor:

            http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/25/fire-emblem-awakening-was-almost-the-last-game-in-the-series/

            Fire Emblem: Awakening would have been the last of the series if it hadn’t sold as well as it did.

          • Nightmare637

            thank god it sold as well as it did.

          • Solomon_Kano

            Thank God, indeed. It’s the first FE I’ve played, so it would’ve been a shame to hear it was the last.

    • Haku_Luvs_You

      Most Atlus games are for a specific crowd. But that crowd is made of people who don’t buy Nintendo things? I guess Atlus is pretty screwed once SMT IV and SMT X FE hit.

      • Solomon_Kano

        lol

    • kroufonz

      konami can’t even manage to keep freaking suikoden alive

  • Pekola

    Noooo.

    Nintendo keep your first-party paws off this! Persona 5 must come to us on PS3/4.

    What will become of you, poor Atlus ; ~ ;

  • GriffithOfTheHawk

    I hope Square Enix stays away from Atlus. I still remember to this day how Square bought Quest back in the day and that now they let both the Tactics Ogre & Ogre Battle IP rot. Nintendo is the best solution, face it.

    • Taizong

      I guess you down own a PSP :p

      • GriffithOfTheHawk

        No, i have one and i still play it. To be frank i think the PSP port of Tactics Ogre is inferior because of some features that made it too easy compared to the original.

        I am a Matsuno fanboy and i can’t wait to see his next project finally revealed regardless of which console he choose (i can accept everything except mobiles though ^_^’)

    • fayt255

      Nintendo is not a very good idea I mean then we will have to beg for games to be localized.

  • Hinataharem

    Does that mean people will lose jobs? Oh no :(

    • Solomon_Kano

      Yes, but not at Atlus. Unfortunately for the folks who’ll be losing their jobs, Index is entirely at fault.

      • z_merquise

        And that would be terrible for many because surely not everyone are involved or even aware of the fraud their company is doing.

        • Solomon_Kano

          Exactly. Fraud is the sort of thing that higher ups are involved in. The average workers at the company are about to lose their job over something they didn’t even know was going on.

          It’s really a pity.

  • AndyLC

    Now Square Enix can swoop in to take Atlus’s crystal and become the ultimate RPG power.

    • Damarius Wingfield

      *Raises Left eyebrow*……

    • Magnumsally

      god damn that screen shot looks amazing

      • AndyLC

        Mode7 is a wonderful thing

    • GriffithOfTheHawk

      No, just no. This is convenient because you wrote RPG and not J-RPG as I’d rather see Zenimax (could be a good move after Tango) swoop them than Square Enix.

      • AndyLC

        RPG’s are role playing games. Many come from Japan, and are greatly varied in gameplay.

        ‘jay arrr pee gee’ is a word people started using after microsoft entered the market and made Japanese things un-American.

        • RisukuAozora

          RPG’s are RPG’s? Ok, guess Rocket Propelled Grenades are Role Playing Games now!

          • Nightmare637

            I’d play it.

          • AndyLC

            and that’s how Valkyria Chronicles was conceived

    • Göran Isacson

      Oh man, I’m hearing the music and everything. Only question now is… who’d be Cecil in this scenario? A Square-Enix employee who desires to go against his company and do good?

  • Fidelis

    Honestly I would have no problem with/ would rather have Sony pick them up than Nintendo.
    Megaten games just feel right on the playstation, imo, and that’s all I really care about

  • amagidyne

    Atlus is one of few developers whose games I can rely on to be great. When it comes to JRPGs, they’re the only name I trust. Sad. Maybe they’ll get to be independent. At least then they’ll have the good sense not to waste money on anime adaptations.

  • TheExile285

    I just had a horrible thought. What if Capcom buys Atlus?

    ;_;

    • mirumu

      I don’t think it would necessarily be all bad. Capcom is a big publisher and does appear to have a much better worldwide distribution system. I also like how they’ve been doing PC releases lately, simultaneous worldwide releases without the excessive price gouging many other companies do.

      • Solomon_Kano

        Also, among Japan’s largest publishers, they’re about the only one that maintains smaller 100k-tier series in addition to their million sellers. Only other one is TK, really (thanks to Gust, who actually falls a bit below that level). And all Atlus has is 100k-tier series, outside Persona.

    • Tom

      Better than Square Enix I think.

  • LDM

    This is terrible news to hear. I hope ATLUS will pull through, even with all the Index fiasco.

  • DawnWolf

    I would absolutely HATE it if Atlus went to Nintendo. Don’t get me wrong I’m picking up SMTIV just the same as I did DeSu1/2, but SMT games are really much more at home on Sony consoles. Especially the Persona series. If Nintendo bought out Atlus I can’t see them allowing Persona on Sony consoles. On the other hand I could say the same if Sony bought out Atlus, say goodbye to the lower budget Atlus games. …But overall I think I’d still go with Atlus being bought by Sony, if not becoming independant.

  • Guest

    I wish I am wealthy enough to buy Atlus and make them their own parent :(
    Wishful thinking aside, is Tecmo Koei out of question?

  • Sean

    I’d like to see Nintendo buy atlus. I don’t believe any of that “Nintendo would dumb them down” bull. Xenoblade Chronicles was a brilliant game and Bayonetta doesn’t seem to be any worse off for being supported by Nintendo.

    Although I think the absolute best scenario would be if they were bought by a company that wasn’t Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo. So the games could still be cross platform.

    • fayt255

      In order for them to make cross platform games wouldn’t they need to bought by someone other than Sony Nintendo, or Microsoft. because if owned by one of those companies then no more cross platform games by them.

  • revenent hell

    Im sorry for the people who will be left jobless after this but….. My thoughts are definitely with Atlus and I hope they at least make it threw this as unscathed as possible

  • Yan Zhao

    Atlus already said this will not affect their activities whatsoever. So thats good news for us, they’ll continue making great games.

    • GriffithOfTheHawk

      You mean Atlus USA ?

  • artemisthemp

    Does this affect Persona in any way?

  • qchto

    someone: “a ‘rare’ japanese company…”
    …. and we all know how that would end
    (so, please stop shouting ms name, don’t let it happen)

  • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

    that’s what i’m wondering I thought that would be atlus JP’s job and if europe didn’t have a branch they’d approach other parties present in europe

  • Herok♞

    Luna your back!

  • Solomon_Kano

    I hoped someone would draw you out. This is lovely.

  • Herok♞

    fair enough

  • https://twitter.com/BinksFrost Binks5

    I don’t think it’s because they are fanboys but mainly because you’re reasoning isn’t… well reasonable to some extent, I can understand you’re frustration over europe being shafted most of the time but you’re blaming the wrong people for the most part, anyway I think we all just want atlus to pull through and hopefully give more support to worldwide gamers

  • Sentsuizan_93

    >implying people who don’t agree with you is an Atlus fanboy
    *sigh* As a European, I find this logic nonsensical. Sure, what Index did was wrong, and they are in trouble because of it, and Europe may not have had the best treatment with Atlus games, but think carefully here: do you really think insulting people, calling them fanboys is going to do any good in the long term? Let me tell you now that there is a fine line between expressing your opinion and doing so as fact. By saying such things like calling people who disagree with you “Atlus fanboys” as you so aptly put it, you have done the latter. I highly recommend you stop now while you still have a chance.

  • http://www.siliconera.com/ Ishaan

    Luna, get out of the comments unless you want me to ban you as well. If you have nothing productive to contribute, then shut up. I’m deleting this entire garbage argument that you and @shadowind:disqus have started.

    I’m tired of these discussions being constantly derailed by people that can’t keep their cool.

  • Prinnydoom

    I sound like such a jerk worrying about what games are being released instead of worrying about what this means for atlus what the hell are they going to do now. Their a great company.

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